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Avatard
08-05-2010, 05:07 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/08/04/illinois.airline.dog.deaths/index.html?iref=NS1

Dragonpaco
08-05-2010, 05:10 AM
i'll see your corporate negligence and raise you police jackassery

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel/bs-md-ar-dog-fight-shooting-20100803,0,7786058.story

Avatard
08-05-2010, 05:19 AM
No words, just sadness.

Anger will come, I'm sure of it...

wildchild
08-05-2010, 08:33 AM
the airlines one, sucks, that's why I wouldn't fly with a pet. you never know the conditions in the hold.

the cop one. OMG so many things come to mind that you would want to say or do. but mostly it brings up the fact that cops should not be able to judge cops behavior. anything a cop does should be reviewed by a separate dept all together. bad cops seem to be becoming the norm rather then the exception. they need to be reigned in before they get completely out of control on their little power trips.
so i guess the cops wife just sat there and watched huh? proud of her man for defending their dog from playtime.

shmike
08-05-2010, 09:42 AM
What a tragic day for the families/owners of the dogs.

What a shitty and misleading thread title too.

the chi
08-05-2010, 10:14 AM
There's a follow up article on the dog shooting, the police have reversed their stance of "no crime" and are investigating further. I hope the guy at least comes in for some form of charges. If he'd tried to interfere in a dog fight, he'd have bites or wounds to prove it and all the witness statements for the dog he shot are 100% against his protrayal of the animal.

z06boy
08-05-2010, 11:13 AM
There's a follow up article on the dog shooting, the police have reversed their stance of "no crime" and are investigating further. I hope the guy at least comes in for some form of charges. If he'd tried to interfere in a dog fight, he'd have bites or wounds to prove it and all the witness statements for the dog he shot are 100% against his protrayal of the animal.

I hadn't heard about the "follow up" but am glad to hear it. I was involved in a debate/thread about this on another forum so I'm not going to get started here but I hope he gets charged.

As far as the airline situation...how sad...that really sux. I hope I never have to fly a pet...so far I haven't had to.

tommymac
08-05-2010, 11:16 AM
There's a follow up article on the dog shooting, the police have reversed their stance of "no crime" and are investigating further. I hope the guy at least comes in for some form of charges. If he'd tried to interfere in a dog fight, he'd have bites or wounds to prove it and all the witness statements for the dog he shot are 100% against his protrayal of the animal.

I cant see him not getting in trouble for discharging his weapon, its not like th edog attacked him or was he acting in any police duty at the time. Had a regular citizen done that rhey would be screwed. Provided that area is a place where its legal to carry.

KSGregman
08-05-2010, 11:17 AM
There's a follow up article on the dog shooting, the police have reversed their stance of "no crime" and are investigating further. I hope the guy at least comes in for some form of charges. If he'd tried to interfere in a dog fight, he'd have bites or wounds to prove it and all the witness statements for the dog he shot are 100% against his protrayal of the animal.


This reminds me...have you heard anything more about the cop who shot that family dog in Oklahoma? Pulled into their drive way (apparently out a rural farmhouse)....dog ran up to the cop....he had time to get back in the car...but chose to stand there and shoot the dog anyway. Apparently his brother was riding shot gun with him that day.

Wasn't it you who posted that thread originally?

Trip
08-05-2010, 11:20 AM
I about shot a dog the other day in the Smokies that some morons had leashless near a creek I was fishing and it came at me. Some dog owners need to learn what rules are, you aren't allowed to bring your dog onto 99% of the park trails or anywhere backcountry. Go walk your dog in fucking gatlinburg.

z06boy
08-05-2010, 11:21 AM
I cant see him not getting in trouble for discharging his weapon, its not like th edog attacked him or was he acting in any police duty at the time. Had a regular citizen done that rhey would be screwed. Provided that area is a place where its legal to carry.

That's what I was thinking too. I don't even think he was an actual police officer...maybe a Federal Security Officer or something like that.

I about shot a dog the other day in the Smokies that some morons had leashless near a creek I was fishing and it came at me. Some dog owners need to learn what rules are, you aren't allowed to bring your dog onto 99% of the park trails or anywhere backcountry. Go walk your dog in fucking gatlinburg.

:lol: True but this was in a dog park.

Trip
08-05-2010, 11:22 AM
:lol: True but this was in a dog park.

I thought the original topic was on an airplane. :lol:

z06boy
08-05-2010, 12:03 PM
I thought the original topic was on an airplane. :lol:

Oh crap you're right...it was. :lol:

the chi
08-05-2010, 01:17 PM
I cant see him not getting in trouble for discharging his weapon, its not like th edog attacked him or was he acting in any police duty at the time. Had a regular citizen done that rhey would be screwed. Provided that area is a place where its legal to carry.

Lets not forget not only did he shoot what witnesses say wasnt a threat, he also discharged a weapon in a dog park full of civilians, parents children and all their dogs.

This reminds me...have you heard anything more about the cop who shot that family dog in Oklahoma? Pulled into their drive way (apparently out a rural farmhouse)....dog ran up to the cop....he had time to get back in the car...but chose to stand there and shoot the dog anyway. Apparently his brother was riding shot gun with him that day.

Wasn't it you who posted that thread originally?

No idea what you are talking about...didnt read that article that I can recall. Then again, i think I have early onset alzheimers...

I about shot a dog the other day in the Smokies that some morons had leashless near a creek I was fishing and it came at me. Some dog owners need to learn what rules are, you aren't allowed to bring your dog onto 99% of the park trails or anywhere backcountry. Go walk your dog in fucking gatlinburg.

This is the reason they have leash laws. Poorly trained and unsocialized pets that are the fault of their owners.

I'm sure you noticed I dont leash Abigail most of the time (at least not when we arent in a public place or walking), but I am also 100% sure she wont be attacking anyone, person or dog, wont harm a person and dang sure wont get more than 10 feet away from me without permission. It's called training. I'll be right there with you in shooting or punching the crap outta some other animal coming at me or mine. You dont train your animal and dont follow the laws, you're responsible for the consequences.

This dog was in a dog park, following the rules provided according to all statements and the article, and the shooters dog wasnt even off the leash. Making me wonder why you are standing in a dog park with a dog on a leash. Hmmm, perhaps your dog is the aggressor?

Trip
08-05-2010, 01:22 PM
This is the reason they have leash laws. Poorly trained and unsocialized pets that are the fault of their owners.

I'm sure you noticed I dont leash Abigail most of the time (at least not when we arent in a public place or walking), but I am also 100% sure she wont be attacking anyone, person or dog, wont harm a person and dang sure wont get more than 10 feet away from me without permission. It's called training. I'll be right there with you in shooting or punching the crap outta some other animal coming at me or mine. You dont train your animal and dont follow the laws, you're responsible for the consequences.

This dog was in a dog park, following the rules provided according to all statements and the article, and the shooters dog wasnt even off the leash. Making me wonder why you are standing in a dog park with a dog on a leash. Hmmm, perhaps your dog is the aggressor?

I don't care about leash laws or dogs on private property. Pets are absolutely forbidden completely from most of the GSMNP. No walking them on hiking trails with the exception of two and completely banned from the backcountry. This is to protect you, your pet, and most importantly the park from damage caused by non native animals.

askmrjesus
08-05-2010, 02:01 PM
This dog was in a dog park, following the rules provided according to all statements and the article, and the shooters dog wasnt even off the leash. Making me wonder why you are standing in a dog park with a dog on a leash. Hmmm, perhaps your dog is the aggressor?

A dog on a leash is more likely to be aggressive, due to the territorial boundary represented by the leash. For a dog, the leash is the same as a fence.

This cop should be fired, and charged with felony endangerment and being a gigantic douche-bag.

JC

Trip
08-05-2010, 02:09 PM
The quote on that second article is priceless.

mmmmmbbq ribs from the local chinese takeout.....anybody know where bear bear's carcass is???

tommymac
08-05-2010, 03:09 PM
Lets not forget not only did he shoot what witnesses say wasnt a threat, he also discharged a weapon in a dog park full of civilians, parents children and all their dogs.

I think thats the point I wanted to convey, you just did it a hell of alot better than I did, but bear with me I have been up for over 24 hrs now so Iam a bit tired ;)

Mudpuppy
08-05-2010, 03:20 PM
I about shot a dog the other day in the Smokies that some morons had leashless near a creek I was fishing and it came at me. Some dog owners need to learn what rules are, you aren't allowed to bring your dog onto 99% of the park trails or anywhere backcountry. Go walk your dog in fucking gatlinburg.

amen to that bro.. i like dogs but i'd shoot one of them motherfuckers if they came at me..

Trip
08-05-2010, 03:22 PM
amen to that bro.. i like dogs but i'd shoot one of them motherfuckers if they came at me..

What really got me close is if I see something big and brown coming through the forest towards me, it's either a bear or a boar. I don't expect dogs since they are banned, I yelled at the owners, but I don't think it did any good. I told a ranger I saw on the way out though, but that was a few hours later, so they were probably long gone.

tommymac
08-05-2010, 03:30 PM
amen to that bro.. i like dogs but i'd shoot one of them motherfuckers if they came at me..

Thats under entireley different circumstances though, and is justifiable if youre out in the woods or a secluded area, but IN a dog park where dogs are supposed to be running around I want ot know WTF this guy was thinking.

wildchild
08-05-2010, 04:11 PM
hate to see what the guy does if somebodies kid ever gets in a fight with his kid at the local playground.

Avatard
08-05-2010, 05:09 PM
While I can understand the fear some of you have mentioned regarding unleashed dogs (Trip), I dare say you would need not shoot a dog in order to get it to fuck off. Either shoot at the ground near it, or just into the air, as the sound of the weapon discharging would probably be enough to figuratively stop the dog dead in its tracks, without having to literally do so.

Trip
08-05-2010, 07:26 PM
While I can understand the fear some of you have mentioned regarding unleashed dogs (Trip), I dare say you would need not shoot a dog in order to get it to fuck off. Either shoot at the ground near it, or just into the air, as the sound of the weapon discharging would probably be enough to figuratively stop the dog dead in its tracks, without having to literally do so.

Oh I don't care about unleashed dogs where dogs are actually allowed (even if it is in a leashed only area.) Dogs are strictly forbidden where I was at that day. As I stated above, if something big and brown comes charging you where I was at, it's a bear or a boar. Something I would shoot in a heartbeat. You don't expect to see a big shaggy dog in the park. My first reaction was boar (because the bear are very non confrontational in the park) and you don't fuck around with them.

It was a very nice dog that just wanted to play and I would of been sad if I killed it, but it should of never been there in the first place.

It makes me very unhappy these ignorant fucks would even bring their animal into the park at all. There are very few places they are allowed to be in the national park, they should of went to one of those trails.

Rangerscott
08-05-2010, 08:04 PM
You dont have to worry trip. Im sure there arent any dogs in hell.

Smittie61984
08-05-2010, 08:20 PM
For the airline article, it sucks for the owners. I wanted to fly my dog with me to Chicago (on AA) but I do not like the idea of trusting my dog's safety to some dumbass couldn't get a job in the private sector serving fries TSA worker or Union bag worker. I'd much prefer putting my dog in the seat next to me but he weighs roughly 35-40lbs. Despite he is probably one of the most disciplined dogs you'll ever meet (even for a Border Collie) he has to be shipped like cargo. Yet some dumbass annoying cat or yappy pissing in the seat toy dog gets a better seat than I do.

As for the cop. If it is found that the Husky attacked his dog, then I hope he shot the owner along with the dog. I came real close to putting a 44slug through a pitbull at the Atlanta Dog Park and then follow up by putting one into the Ed Hardey bald headed 45yo douchebag who I guess needed another penis extension owner. I just don't get why people get dogs (especially ones predisposed to aggresion) if they can't take care of them or can't even trust them to be off the leash.

I also hate leash laws with a passion. I miss the days where I could take my dog to the park and throw a frisbee and NOT have some other dog try to steal it or fight my dog for it which is all that happens at a dog park.

Trip
08-05-2010, 09:37 PM
You dont have to worry trip. Im sure there arent any dogs in hell.

theres none in heaven either, since they are like gingers and have no soul.

Papa_Complex
08-06-2010, 08:09 AM
Air Canada hasn't been doing very well lately either. They trashed the custom wheelchair of a 10 year old kid with muscular dystrophy, when he was fulfilling one of his bucket list items, to visit New York. Now they're scrambling to reverse the bad press they got up here, for it.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/844270--after-breaking-dying-boy-s-wheelchair-air-canada-to-send-him-to-disney

Mudpuppy
08-06-2010, 01:53 PM
Thats under entireley different circumstances though, and is justifiable if youre out in the woods or a secluded area, but IN a dog park where dogs are supposed to be running around I want ot know WTF this guy was thinking.

true and i agree.. he shouldn't have done it but probably thinks he is above the law..

101lifts2
08-09-2010, 01:39 AM
I don't know why animals are allowed in a cargo area that isn't temperature controlled.