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Avatard

08-22-2010, 12:43 AM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-lanza/does-the-past-exist-yet-e_b_683103.html

Some quantum physics mind fucking for you all, w/the double slit thrown in as a bonus...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfPeprQ7oGc

Adeptus_Minor

08-22-2010, 12:46 AM

This is old news.
History is constantly being re-written. :whistle:

Dave

08-22-2010, 10:09 AM

This is old news.
History is constantly being re-written. :whistle:

just ask democrats :lmao:

Kaneman

08-22-2010, 11:09 AM

just ask democrats :lmao:

Seriously? Cause here in Texas one of the Republican Party's main goals is to rewrite history. And they're successful at it, getting pretty much whatever they want in the History textbooks.

Hydrant

08-22-2010, 12:29 PM

Maybe they are trying to get them delete the part where Obama is president.

Adeptus_Minor

08-22-2010, 01:03 PM

just ask democrats :lmao:

Seriously? Cause here in Texas one of the Republican Party's main goals is to rewrite history.

Yeah, I wasn't really looking at it as a politically biased phenomenon. :wink:

Avatard

08-22-2010, 01:08 PM

Well, Dave has FoxNews to explain what he's supposed to believe politically, but no one to teach him Quantum Physics, so he goes for what he knows. Josh was just trying to set him straight on the other thing, because, as usual he was mislead.

Love these left-field threadjacks myself...funny how it's always the same crowd...

:rolleyes:

Adeptus_Minor

08-22-2010, 01:43 PM

Love these left-field threadjacks myself...funny how it's always the same crowd...

:rolleyes:

Fine fine... I just wanted to make a funny based on the thread title. :rolleyes:

The article reminded me of that Neils Bohr quote: "There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true."
Except, in this case, even the trivial truths could be both true or false with only a slight manipulation on the quantum level.

Maybe this *is* about politics after all :lol:

Avatard

08-22-2010, 01:50 PM

Dave

08-22-2010, 02:51 PM

Avatard

08-22-2010, 02:54 PM

Dave

08-22-2010, 03:49 PM

Good thing I'm always sure to put all my off topic nonsense in the off topic section, huh?

Why don't you put your irrelevant left field bullshit nonsense in the irrelevant left field bullshit section?

:fu2:

You're off topic so I'm off topic :) 'sides you should be thanking us, if it wasn't for me and "the crowd" you're threads wouldn't have any replys a'tall :lmao:

Avatard

08-22-2010, 04:03 PM

Do me a favor, wanna be off topic? Start your own thread. You bring nothing useful to mine with fucking stupid shit like that.

anthonyk

08-22-2010, 04:34 PM

Huh, so I guess that tree in the woods not only makes no sound if nobody's around to hear it, but it doesn't even "decide" to fall down in the first place.

Cool article.

Dave

08-22-2010, 07:31 PM

Do me a favor, wanna be off topic? Start your own thread. You bring nothing useful to mine with fucking stupid shit like that.

One does favors for people they like, deal.

Avatard

08-22-2010, 07:57 PM

One does favors for people they like, deal.

Whatever, Gump. If you think your comments, like those in this thread, make you look intelligent, knock yourself out - keep it up.

But you'll likely just be mocked, each and every time, just as you were in this thead...you'll simply be known as one of the "short bus" kids around here, that's all.

We'll be talking about quantum physics, and you'll be talking about whatever's on Faux News.

Don't think the contrast is lost on everyone ;)

Avatard

08-22-2010, 07:59 PM

Huh, so I guess that tree in the woods not only makes no sound if nobody's around to hear it, but it doesn't even "decide" to fall down in the first place.

Cool article.

Thanks, it kinda blew my mind too. Thought I'd pass it on. Glad some here are sharp enough to appreciate stuff like this...

Dave

08-23-2010, 10:16 AM

Whatever, Gump. If you think your comments, like those in this thread, make you look intelligent, knock yourself out - keep it up.

But you'll likely just be mocked, each and every time, just as you were in this thead...you'll simply be known as one of the "short bus" kids around here, that's all.

We'll be talking about quantum physics, and you'll be talking about whatever's on Faux News.

Don't think the contrast is lost on everyone ;)

Pretty sure you're the only one who comes here to prove your intelligence :lol: of course the success of that's arguable since all you do is spam headlines from news stories no one gives two shits about :lmao:

KSGregman

08-23-2010, 12:58 PM

You sound like a Dumbocrat.

And you think that sounds intelligent?
What are you, five?

....and you'll be talking about whatever's on Faux News.

Uh huh…..

Don't think the contrast is lost on everyone ;)

Believe me…the contrast (or lack thereof in this case) isn’t lost….at least not on those of us paying attention.

Love these left-field threadjacks myself...funny how it's always the same crowd...

I love how every time you are challenged on any point at all you fall back onto same tired M.O….to wit:

a) You watch Faux News
b) I’m smarter than you…here let me tell you about it and
c) Have an escalating meltdown worthy of Mudpuppy

And it IS funny as that response does always come from the same crowd….it’s funnier still that YOU are the only person IN that crowd and STILL don't realize how easily you are played.

Papa_Complex

08-23-2010, 02:00 PM

In other news: Dude...... my hands are HUGE! They can touch everything but themselves. Oh.... wait....

Avatard

08-23-2010, 02:38 PM

Pretty sure you're the only one who comes here to prove your intelligence :lol: of course the success of that's arguable since all you do is spam headlines from news stories no one gives two shits about :lmao:

I come here to share my intelligence.

There are a number of other smart people here, who I respect.

You aren't one of them.

That's why you don't get my threads, and post stupid shit instead.

Avatard

08-23-2010, 02:40 PM

And it IS funny as that response does always come from the same crowd….it’s funnier still that YOU are the only person IN that crowd and STILL don't realize how easily you are played.

I'm bored. I'll always take a few minutes to abuse the stupid in return.

Dave

08-23-2010, 02:41 PM

I come here to share my intelligence.

There are a number of other smart people here, who I respect.

You aren't one of them.

That's why you don't get my threads, and post stupid shit instead.

My dog shares similar intelligence every day. I keep it in little plastic bags :lol:

Avatard

08-23-2010, 02:47 PM

So, your dog understands Quantum Physics?

My dog shares similar intelligence every day. I keep it in little plastic bags :lol:

Now I know where the material from posts comes from...

Dave

08-23-2010, 03:31 PM

So, your dog understands Quantum Physics?

Now I know where the material from posts comes from...

Nope, don't see quantum physics fixing your corvette either :lmao:

Avatard

08-23-2010, 03:41 PM

Nope, don't see quantum physics fixing your corvette either :lmao:

Nope that will take logic, intelligence, sleuthing, and good mechanical and electrical knowledge.

Luckily, I have all of that. Here's some stuff I've built previously...

My old studio:

http://www.gregmar.com/studio.jpg

My K5 Blazer:

http://www.poopnugget.com/files/truck.jpg

What have you built? Anger?

Dave

08-23-2010, 04:09 PM

Yeah, 2.2 litres worth :lmao:

Trip

08-23-2010, 04:24 PM

Whatever, Gump.

Leave forrest out of this, plus that slander only works on alabamians

Particle Man

08-23-2010, 04:30 PM

and what does this due to the whole Schrodinger's Cat thing... :eek:

anthonyk

08-23-2010, 04:53 PM

Every time you think about that cat, you kill it (and don't) all over again.

(That begs for some kind of "every time you blahblahblah, god kills a kitten" joke...)

Dave

08-23-2010, 04:56 PM

Goddamned ninja domo-kuns

Avatard

08-23-2010, 05:23 PM

and what does this due to the whole Schrodinger's Cat thing... :eek:

You know, I included the dual slit experiment, because that's one that I "get", and also because it came up when I went looking for some answers regarding the Schrodinger's cat experiment.

I'm still struggling to understand the Schrodinger's cat thing. There is an algebraic equation for it, but sadly, algebra never was one of my strong suits. Perhaps if I had a better grasp on that, I'd get the overall gist of the whole experiment better.

:idk:

Particle Man

08-23-2010, 05:52 PM

Just keep repeating to yourself over and over: "State of flux..."

askmrjesus

08-23-2010, 06:26 PM

Dave

08-23-2010, 06:30 PM

It's simple.

The cats a fucking vampire. Not living, not dead, or: undead and unliving at the same time.

Basically, the cat is fucked no matter what.

JC

Who is like the cat, and who can make war with him? :lmao:

anthonyk

08-23-2010, 07:08 PM

You know, I included the dual slit experiment, because that's one that I "get", and also because it came up when I went looking for some answers regarding the Schrodinger's cat experiment.

I'm still struggling to understand the Schrodinger's cat thing. There is an algebraic equation for it, but sadly, algebra never was one of my strong suits. Perhaps if I had a better grasp on that, I'd get the overall gist of the whole experiment better.

:idk:

As far as I understand it (which ain't far), it's just an attempt to point out some of the absurdities of how quantum systems were/are being represented. As long as you're talking about subatomic particles, people seem okay with thinking about them existing as blurry probability fields (or whatever you wanna call them). Electrons don't orbit the nucleus in chemistry books anymore, they're just clouds where the electrons have an equal probability of being at any given time.

Schrodinger just took that subatomic system view and linked it up to something macroscopic that we're used to seeing and touching. If the subatomic system exists in all states, then the detector in the box is simultaneously detecting a particle and not, and the poison (or whatever kills the cat) is both released and not released, so the cat's both dead and alive. The math totally supports it, and if you accept the quantum explanation at the subatomic level, you gotta accept that it works the same way with the cat. And then you lose your mind. :screwy:

Or something like that. :skep:

Captain Morgan

08-23-2010, 08:09 PM

So wait, the dual split experiment basically says that something will act differently than normal if it is being observed? Well, no fucking shit! It really took a quantum physicist to figure that out? :lol:

Particle Man

08-23-2010, 08:45 PM

askmrjesus

08-23-2010, 09:29 PM

Especially a cat... They're freakin' nuts.

Or, a guy on a bike when chicks are watching.

You may not know this, but chicks watching you try to wheelie, often results in wheelie failure.

JC

Papa_Complex

08-23-2010, 09:32 PM

Or, a guy on a bike when chicks are watching.

You may not know this, but chicks watching you try to wheelie, often results in wheelie failure.

JC

I've seen it result in kickstand deployment failure.

askmrjesus

08-23-2010, 09:38 PM

I've seen it result in kickstand deployment failure.

You should try Viagra.

JC

Papa_Complex

08-23-2010, 09:44 PM

You should try Viagra.

JC

Not me. A friend and I pulled into a gas station. When he was pulling in behind me, he noticed a hot blonde in a little red convertible on the other side of the pumps from him and decided to show off, by sliding the rear as he pulled in. All that I could see in my mirror was he and the bike disappearing.

I guess that it sort of spoils the schtick when someone has to lift your bike off your leg.

Particle Man

08-23-2010, 10:05 PM

Not me. A friend and I pulled into a gas station. When he was pulling in behind me, he noticed a hot blonde in a little red convertible on the other side of the pumps from him and decided to show off, by sliding the rear as he pulled in. All that I could see in my mirror was he and the bike disappearing.

I guess that it sort of spoils the schtick when someone has to lift your bike off your leg.

True but to be fair he probably did manage to deploy the "kickstand"...

askmrjesus

08-23-2010, 10:25 PM

I guess that it sort of spoils the schtick when someone has to lift your bike off your leg.

Yeah, but maneuvers like that induce the "scar factor", and you're right back in there.

JC

Adeptus_Minor

08-24-2010, 02:56 AM

Yeah, but maneuvers like that induce the "scar factor", and you're right back in there.

JC

Hence why boneheads still seem to be inordinately successful breeders. :whistle:

Papa_Complex

08-24-2010, 06:55 AM

Yeah, but maneuvers like that induce the "scar factor", and you're right back in there.

JC

... with all women, but the one you were trying to impress.

Hence why boneheads still seem to be inordinately successful breeders. :whistle:

Doesn't matter if you've got an IQ of 150; the right woman makes you go from 0 to bonehead in 3.6 seconds.