Gap thieves foiled...

[shmike]

I searched but didn't see this posted here.

I thought this was all over the interwebs.

If it isn't, it should be...

From another board:
Hey guys,
A guy on the FZ1OA forum was at Deal's Gap last week and some college punk for University of Tennessee tried to steal his bike. Guy was sitting on the porch just hanging out and looked at a guy putting on gloves, helmet and back protector just like his. The guy was getting on a bike just like his. It was HIS FZ1 the guy was getting on. The guy stopped him. Called the LEO. They handcuffed him, but eventually let him go because he did not start the bike and ride away.

I have attached their picture that the photographers from Killboy got of them. If you know anyone at Tennessee send the picture to them so they can post it. Maybe the guy can be humiliated a little bit.

http://www.soflasportbikes.com/forum/attachments/general-motorcycle-discussion/28377d1284234804-going-gap-take-your-keys-arse1.jpg

[shmike]

The Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thieves-From-UT-That-Tried-to-Steal-a-Bike-From-Deals-Gap/150073711690680?ref=mf

[derf]

Hahahaha, nice

[Smittie61984]

How did the guy plan to steal the bike? Were the keys in or was he planning to hotwire or whatever it is you do to steal a bike?

Too bad that rider didn't have a gun and popped his fucking brains out.

[dReWpY]

Keys were in the bike

[askmrjesus]

Keys were in the bike

Good thing Digifox didn't see it...

JC

[dReWpY]

But it was a abandoned bike, and my little sister was wi....

[Particle Man]

Only a matter of time before someone figures out this dude's name. Hope it was worth it, dude...

[Trip]

Only a matter of time before someone figures out this dude's name. Hope it was worth it, dude...

They know his name because of the police report. They just haven't posted it publicly.

[Particle Man]

They know his name because of the police report. They just haven't posted it publicly.

I meant other than them...

[Amber Lamps]

I meant other than them...

I'm sure that the victim knows the guy's name but hasn't posted for fear of civil litigation...:idk:

You must understand that the guy was not charged with any crime. If the bike owner posts his name and implies that he is a "bike thief" he can be sued for slander. Not to mention what would happen if some well meaning but misguided individual were to harm the thief in any way after his info was posted. BTW I'm not saying that this didn't happen BUT what if this were just some hoax to get back at this kid? :idk: I mean, I have pictures of Trip. I could post a pic of him on various forums saying that he gave my sister AIDS, for example.... Who's to stop me?:idk: Again, I'm not saying that this isn't real but I am surprised that all of you skeptics are jumping on board with out any questions....:lol:

[Rider]

The Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Thieves-From-UT-That-Tried-to-Steal-a-Bike-From-Deals-Gap/150073711690680?ref=mf

Beautiful!!!!

[derf]

I'm sure that the victim knows the guy's name but hasn't posted for fear of civil litigation...:idk:

You must understand that the guy was not charged with any crime. If the bike owner posts his name and implies that he is a "bike thief" he can be sued for slander. Not to mention what would happen if some well meaning but misguided individual were to harm the thief in any way after his info was posted. BTW I'm not saying that this didn't happen BUT what if this were just some hoax to get back at this kid? :idk: I mean, I have pictures of Trip. I could post a pic of him on various forums saying that he gave my sister AIDS, for example.... Who's to stop me?:idk: Again, I'm not saying that this isn't real but I am surprised that all of you skeptics are jumping on board with out any questions....:lol:

Trip gave your sister AIDS?

[Particle Man]

I'm sure that the victim knows the guy's name but hasn't posted for fear of civil litigation...:idk:

You must understand that the guy was not charged with any crime. If the bike owner posts his name and implies that he is a "bike thief" he can be sued for slander. Not to mention what would happen if some well meaning but misguided individual were to harm the thief in any way after his info was posted. BTW I'm not saying that this didn't happen BUT what if this were just some hoax to get back at this kid? :idk: I mean, I have pictures of Trip. I could post a pic of him on various forums saying that he gave my sister AIDS, for example.... Who's to stop me?:idk: Again, I'm not saying that this isn't real but I am surprised that all of you skeptics are jumping on board with out any questions....:lol:

That's kinda where I was going, actually. Someone is gonna get hold of this dude's identity and go all ape shit on him. I'd rather see his ass prosecuted and him thrown in jail. Maybe (if what happened actually happened) that'll stop future theft attempts.

[Dave]

I'm sure that the victim knows the guy's name but hasn't posted for fear of civil litigation...:idk:

You must understand that the guy was not charged with any crime. If the bike owner posts his name and implies that he is a "bike thief" he can be sued for slander. Not to mention what would happen if some well meaning but misguided individual were to harm the thief in any way after his info was posted. BTW I'm not saying that this didn't happen BUT what if this were just some hoax to get back at this kid? :idk: I mean, I have pictures of Trip. I could post a pic of him on various forums saying that he gave my sister AIDS, for example.... Who's to stop me?:idk: Again, I'm not saying that this isn't real but I am surprised that all of you skeptics are jumping on board with out any questions....:lol:

Hay hay hay, this is twowheelfix. You're guilty until proven guilty around here

[Homeslice]

I hope someone finds out what he's majoring in and what companies he interviews with, and sends them the facebook link with the message "trustworthy? you decide"

[Krypt Keeper]

So if you try to take my bike its perfectly OK, but if its a car and you just sit in it you most likely would be throw under the jail for grand theft, or attempted grand theft.

wonder if breaking my foot off in his ass would bring charges again me or not?

[Captain Morgan]

how was this guy NOT charged with anything? WTF???

[LeeNetworX]

Hay hay hay, this is twowheelfix. You're guilty until proven guilty around here

Everyone is guilty of something; some are just better at hiding it than others.

[Gas Man]

I can't see the FB from work but this whole leaves me with a bitter/sweet taste. I agree, why was he not charged?!?

[Dave]

Everyone is guilty of something; some are just better at hiding it than others.

Which is why I get seriously annoyed at all of the hypocritical blathering in the "thief" threads :lmao:

[ontwo]

The moral of this thread is .... Trip should use condoms

[Particle Man]

:lol:

[Apoc]

I can't see the FB from work but this whole leaves me with a bitter/sweet taste. I agree, why was he not charged?!?

Because he didnt steal anything...

Sure, he was going to.. But Intent is not a crime...

What could they charge him with? Trying on someone elses helmet? Unlawfully sitting on a bike he didnt own?

[Particle Man]

But Intent is not a crime...


"intent to sell" implies that intent is a crime so why not "intent to steal"?

[Homeslice]

So then the owner and all the witnesses should have said that he tried to start the bike.

[Trip]

wtf, i hate you tigger

[Dave]

wtf, i hate you tigger

Don't get mad cause you tapped without wrap :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

wtf, i hate you tigger

Whatever...you could have told her man, that's all I'm saying...

[Trip]

Whatever...you could have told her man, that's all I'm saying...

Well if you told me you gave it to your girl, i wouldn't of had it either.

This is what I get for eiffel towering....

[Amber Lamps]

Which is why I get seriously annoyed at all of the hypocritical blathering in the "thief" threads :lmao:

Yea, I reread some of my posts and I probably came off "holier than thou" myself... I learned a lot of my "life lessons" the hard way too. I guess it's easy to judge when you're not in the other guy's position.:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

Well if you told me you gave it to your girl, i wouldn't of had it either.

This is what I get for eiffel towering....

It would have been okay if you hadn't gone for anal...

[Apoc]

It would have been okay if you hadn't gone for anal...

Thanks for filling me in... I know where not to stick it when my turn comes up...

[Homeslice]

Which is why I get seriously annoyed at all of the hypocritical blathering in the "thief" threads :lmao:

Where is the hypocrisy? Are you saying that if someone picks up a dollar bill off the street, they're not able to criticize people who shoplift?

[Dave]

Where is the hypocrisy? Are you saying that if someone picks up a dollar bill off the street, they're not able to criticize people who shoplift?

I wasn't referring to that previous analogy (which ya'll were apparently too literal to grasp anyway). Maybe I should have said arrogant piety? Though I'm sure the h word fits for a good number of the folks who chose to show their ass over two unconfirmed "confessions" from an idiot minor. Little too eager I think. And the chances of anyone being without sin? Very low

[Homeslice]

Though I'm sure the h word fits for a good number of the folks who chose to show their ass over two unconfirmed "confessions" from an idiot minor.

Wait, what was this? :scratch: :lol:

[dReWpY]

the dude put on some guys stuff and tried to take off with the bike, lied about why he was on there and you guys think he wasnt breaking the law?

[Smittie61984]

What could they charge him with? Trying on someone elses helmet? Unlawfully sitting on a bike he didnt own?

I think that's worthy of getting shot and killed right there.

Sit inside a cop car and see if they don't charge you with attempted theft. "Officer, I was just trying out your heated seats and checking my email on your laptop"

[Homeslice]

It's another symptom of the "motorcycles are just toys, it doesn't matter what happens to them" mentality that non-riders have (including police).

[Amber Lamps]

the dude put on some guys stuff and tried to take off with the bike, lied about why he was on there and you guys think he wasnt breaking the law?

Oh I never said that... I merely questioned whether any of it happened.:idk:

Although, I will say this, if you come out of the store and some idiot is sitting on your car. Would you call the police and expect them to arrest him?

[anthonyk]

Oh I never said that... I merely questioned whether any of it happened.:idk:

Although, I will say this, if you come out of the store and some idiot is sitting on your car. Would you call the police and expect them to arrest him?

On the car? No. In the car? Probably.

[Amber Lamps]

On the car? No. In the car? Probably.

Correct because..... you have to enter a car to be in it. There isn't an "in it" state for a motorcycle. :sorry: Now I'm not defending this idiot if this story is true but on the other hand, what if it's not entirely true? What if, and I DON'T condone this, BUT what if he just sat on the dude's bike to check it out? I admit, I'd kick his ass, but is that a "crime" punishable by the law?:idk:

[anthonyk]

You swing a leg over the bike, and you're "in" it just as much as opening a car door and plopping down on the seat.

[Porkchop]

Hay hay hay, this is twowheelfix. You're guilty until proven guilty around here

That should be next year's TWF shirt.

The logo on the front with "Guilty until proven guilty" on the back. :lol:

[Dave]

Win

[azoomm]

Same goes for cars. If someone is in the car without tampering with it or attempting to move it, not illegal. We know of a few Miata owners that have warned us to park it with the top up, their experiences with people getting into the car brought on their advice.

[Amber Lamps]

Same goes for cars. If someone is in the car without tampering with it or attempting to move it, not illegal. We know of a few Miata owners that have warned us to park it with the top up, their experiences with people getting into the car brought on their advice.

Exactly, I'm not condoning this behavior but is it illegal?

[Captain Morgan]

thing that gets me is that if he had started it and tried to ride away, it will end in one of two ways. 1. He evades his pursuers. 2. He wrecks the bike. There is no third option. This guy just stole a bike, do you really think he's just going to pull over? Not a chance.

[azoomm]

Exactly, I'm not condoning this behavior but is it illegal?

Not illegal.

It's not even shoplifting until you actually walk over the threshold of the door.

[Particle Man]

Correct because..... you have to enter a car to be in it. There isn't an "in it" state for a motorcycle.

Unless you're one kinky mother effer

[Dave]

There isn't an "in it" state for a motorcycle.

shoulda phoned a friend ;)

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/images/2008/11/17/monotracer02.jpg

[ericr]

Ninja edit:

Someone mentioned it happed to an FZ1OA member I think, one posted it..."from another forum" so is it real? :idk:


http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107730&highlight=deals+gap

[dReWpY]

I can say that it was real, I was just down there

[z06boy]

Guy's picture and his car and tag posted all over the place. :lol:

[pauldun170]

Ninja edit:

Someone mentioned it happed to an FZ1OA member I think, one posted it..."from another forum" so is it real? :idk:


http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107730&highlight=deals+gap




I've always left my key in the bike and my gear on it as well up there, it's always been an honor thing amongst bikers there.
:wtfru:

[Trip]

:wtfru:

Everyone did it, I mean everyone. Deals Gap was a place where you could leave your damn bike running and you didn't have to worry about anyone touching it, seriously. If there was a place you never had to worry about your bike being messed with besides your house, it was Deals Gap til this year and the string of bike thefts. Now it's lost it's rep for that.

[askmrjesus]

Everyone did it, I mean everyone. Deals Gap was a place where you could leave your damn bike running and you didn't have to worry about anyone touching it, seriously. If there was a place you never had to worry about your bike being messed with besides your house, it was Deals Gap til this year and the string of bike thefts. Now it's lost it's rep for that.

The price of fame...

JC

[Trip]

The price of fame...

JC

yep...

The culture change that is happening over there is pretty bad too. The more aggressive enforcement has driven away a lot of the sportbikes that scared off the pirates. The pirates up there are increasing exponentially and they cause far more reported and injury accidents and brought with them a new attitude at the store. They had to boot people from the premises for poor attitude to deals gap staff. That's the first time this has happened in awhile. The gap has really changed in the last 3 years.

[Dave]

yep...

The culture change that is happening over there is pretty bad too. The more aggressive enforcement has driven away a lot of the sportbikes that scared off the pirates. The pirates up there are increasing exponentially and they cause far more reported and injury accidents and brought with them a new attitude at the store. They had to boot people from the premises for poor attitude to deals gap staff. That's the first time this has happened in awhile. The gap has really changed in the last 3 years.

Pirates?

[Trip]

Pirates?

Cruiser riders aka butt pirates aka fags

[derf]

Cruiser riders aka butt pirates aka fags

Arrrg

[Smittie61984]

Cruiser riders aka butt pirates aka fags

I haven't been there in probalby 2 years. The cruisers up there sucked then. Worst of all, they acted like self-appointed public avengers, out to regulate the sport bike outlaws despite they are hte ones with the "outlaw" vests. Fucking lawyers.

I want to go back but I'll go during late fall/early winter and late winter/early spring. Best riding I had was the first time I went on Superbowl weekend. I saw maybe 10 cars on the Cherohala and a few sportbikes and sport cars at the Gap. No one was there! I even passed 2 THP cars near Foothills rolling about 70+ and they didn't give a shit.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2019/2241034596_39cff5e922_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2241034596/)
Deal's Gap Gas Station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2241034596/)

[pauldun170]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2019/2241034596_39cff5e922_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2241034596/)
Deal's Gap Gas Station (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2241034596/)

You got some better shots of the F3?

[Smittie61984]

You got some better shots of the F3?

Of it looking like that? Not much since it looks different now. Main difference is all the white parts are primered (including tank) and the red top is left untouched. I've just been too lazy to sand the rest and paint it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2240237895/in/set-72157603848518871/

[pauldun170]

Of it looking like that? Not much since it looks different now. Main difference is all the white parts are primered (including tank) and the red top is left untouched. I've just been too lazy to sand the rest and paint it.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2240237895/in/set-72157603848518871/

Can't see the flickr stuff since I'm dont have a log in.

that shot you posted earlier reminded me of the "weathered" look a lot of hot rodders are using.
Looks kinda cool...

Plus its nice to see F3 (and earlier F2) on the road

[Smittie61984]

Can't see the flickr stuff since I'm dont have a log in.

that shot you posted earlier reminded me of the "weathered" look a lot of hot rodders are using.
Looks kinda cool...

Plus its nice to see F3 (and earlier F2) on the road

Gotcha, forgot flickr fucked everything up recently. I might throw a thread together since my bike was a project (bought it wrecked and not working) and people are always wanting more pics/info on my bike. The F3 has been a tank with 45k+ miles on it.

Here is probably the best weathered look one. I've seriously considered sanding it down again, spraying it black to sand it again then clear coating the tank.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2022/2240237895_42b8373c10_z.jpg?zz=1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2240237895/)
Deal's Gap Great Adventure 075 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/atlantasmittie84/2240237895/)

[Mudpuppy]

i had it out with the stupid corvette club this year.. they drove all the way from columbus, ohio to the gap in a corvette but they insisted they would only do the speed limit through the gap.. they preached about crotch rockets and how they are unsafe after i told them to watch their speed because about a mile into Tennessee there was an unmarked THP.. so much for trying to do them a favor.. oh look at me i am so great because i have a corvette.. what a bunch of douchebags..

[Amber Lamps]

i had it out with the stupid corvette club this year.. they drove all the way from columbus, ohio to the gap in a corvette but they insisted they would only do the speed limit through the gap.. they preached about crotch rockets and how they are unsafe after i told them to watch their speed because about a mile into Tennessee there was an unmarked THP.. so much for trying to do them a favor.. oh look at me i am so great because i have a corvette.. what a bunch of douchebags..

Wow...its one thing to buy a Vette and cruise it around town... But to take it to the Gap and cruise... Heck, why not just take it to Mid-Ohio, rent the track and cruise around to your heart's content...oh wait no one could ooh and aah over your Vette then could they?

[Smittie61984]

I was watching Campus PD today and on it htey showed a guy yelling and screaming that some guy and his girl were going to steal his CBR1000. This took place in Cancun.

The Mexican guy on the bike had 2 helmets (one for him and his GF) and keys to the bike. The other guy pulled out keys but they looked like Chevy truck keys (they were long). I think the Mexican guy provided papers for the bike and they drove off on it.

Made me think of this thread.

[z06boy]

i had it out with the stupid corvette club this year.. they drove all the way from columbus, ohio to the gap in a corvette but they insisted they would only do the speed limit through the gap.. they preached about crotch rockets and how they are unsafe after i told them to watch their speed because about a mile into Tennessee there was an unmarked THP.. so much for trying to do them a favor.. oh look at me i am so great because i have a corvette.. what a bunch of douchebags..

Wow...its one thing to buy a Vette and cruise it around town... But to take it to the Gap and cruise... Heck, why not just take it to Mid-Ohio, rent the track and cruise around to your heart's content...oh wait no one could ooh and aah over your Vette then could they?


That's why after 4 Vettes I still don't belong to any Vette clubs. Some of the owners are fun to hang out with but the majority would rather wash and wax and sit around and talk...F that.

[Trip]

I have been to a Vette gathering with my dad. It was full of people like him, older mid age crisis fogeys who know nothing about driving a vette fast and just bought it to cruise around in. It was boring as shit.

[Smittie61984]

That's why after 4 Vettes I still don't belong to any Vette clubs. Some of the owners are fun to hang out with but the majority would rather wash and wax and sit around and talk...F that.

I went to the Atlanta dragway a while back where a Vette club came. They couldn't fit the stereotype of a vette driver any better. My mom's minivan had better times than those fuckers. It sucks because Vettes are badass cars.

The Chevy Corvette = World's fastest golfcart.

[CrazyKell]

Waiting for G-Rex to pipe up. ;)

[Homeslice]

Corvette seats are always less-bolstered than they are other sports cars, because Chevy knows how many lard-asses drive them :lol:

[Particle Man]

Waiting for G-Rex to pipe up. ;)

He can't, he's out fixing his 'Vette :lol

[z06boy]

I have been to a Vette gathering with my dad. It was full of people like him, older mid age crisis fogeys who know nothing about driving a vette fast and just bought it to cruise around in. It was boring as shit.

The wife and I went to a couple of meetings/gatherings several years ago and said "We're OUT !!" :lol:

I went to the Atlanta dragway a while back where a Vette club came. They couldn't fit the stereotype of a vette driver any better. My mom's minivan had better times than those fuckers. It sucks because Vettes are badass cars.

The Chevy Corvette = World's fastest golfcart.

Mine runs pretty decent and although I don't drive it as much as I used to...mainly due to the bikes and the boat...gets driven like a performance car should be. :rockwoot:

[z06boy]

He can't, he's out fixing his 'Vette :lol

Oops missed this one...I don't know about his but mine's never been back to a dealership and the only "fixing" has been to tune or add performance parts.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself and now something on it breaks. :lol:

[z06boy]

Corvette seats are always less-bolstered than they are other sports cars, because Chevy knows how many lard-asses drive them :lol:

I guess they have to cut corners somewhere to give that much performance for the $$...BUT there are a lot of lard-asses that drive them...no argument there.:lol

*edit* Oh and I'm not brand loyal or American car loyal either...but I have enjoyed this car.

[KSGregman]

The VP of Marketing here (who is also my neighbor :lmao: ) has a Z06 Vette....every time I walk past it on my way in to the office it has his golf clubs in the back.

I'm like, dude, come on....loan me the keys for an afternoon....let me at LEAST get the tires and brakes scrubbed in properly for you. He just laughs and says....I didn't buy it to "hot rod around" in.....

That line is so ridiculous that it leaves me speechless every time he says it.

[CasterTroy]

I didn't buy it to "hot rod around" in.....

:wtfru:

I don't know a car I haven't "hot rodded around in" :lol:

I had an 85 for escort that I drifted (i.e. pull up the emergency brake and get sideways) around the tight stuff when I was in high school :lol:

Gawd knows what kinda stupid stuff I'd do in a vette :tremble: Prob what Randy does every time he cranks his :rockwoot:

[Particle Man]

Oops missed this one...I don't know about his but mine's never been back to a dealership and the only "fixing" has been to tune or add performance parts.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself and now something on it breaks. :lol:

Trace's car is jinxed :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

He can't, he's out fixing his 'Vette :lol

Or out licking his wounds....:sorry:

[KSGregman]

I don't know a car I haven't "hot rodded around in" :lol:

I know, right? It's embarrassing to watch him drive it....he LOOKS like a little old lady behind the wheel....he's a little short shit to begin with....but he looks scared of the car....He'd be better suited driving his wife's Lexus SUV. :lmao:

[CasterTroy]

He'd be better suited driving his wife's Lexus SUV. :lmao:

:lol: I'm leaving here in a minute to try and drift that 2011 Lincoln Town car rental myself :D

[Smittie61984]

Oops missed this one...I don't know about his but mine's never been back to a dealership and the only "fixing" has been to tune or add performance parts.

Hope I didn't just jinx myself and now something on it breaks. :lol:

That's because the workers in Bowling Green aren't your typical union workers and the cars are actually made well. IIRC GM selects good workers who aren't union friendly (though they are Union becuase they don't like replacing tires every week) and actually believe in doing good quality work. Mainly becuase they do plant tours and you can't have your typical UAW plant employee in the eye of the public becuase the tour would suck. You would be staring in at them and them staring back at you.

[z06boy]

:wtfru:

I don't know a car I haven't "hot rodded around in" :lol:

I had an 85 for escort that I drifted (i.e. pull up the emergency brake and get sideways) around the tight stuff when I was in high school :lol:

Gawd knows what kinda stupid stuff I'd do in a vette :tremble: Prob what Randy does every time he cranks his :rockwoot:

:cheers: I hear ya Troy !! :lol: In my 99 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 that I had or even the new Jeep Liberty 4x4 that I traded it for...if you're in a sport ute or he11 even a mini van and roll up and want to play...if we're not in a bunch of traffic...it's on !! :rofl:

I even have a little Dodge Neon SRT-4 :wtfru: :lol: in the garage to play with the 'fast and furious' crowd when needed. The wife actually has fun driving the little car and just like the Vette...it's paid for so it's hard to let it go. :idk: :lol:


The VP of Marketing here (who is also my neighbor :lmao: ) has a Z06 Vette....every time I walk past it on my way in to the office it has his golf clubs in the back.

I'm like, dude, come on....loan me the keys for an afternoon....let me at LEAST get the tires and brakes scrubbed in properly for you. He just laughs and says....I didn't buy it to "hot rod around" in.....

That line is so ridiculous that it leaves me speechless every time he says it.

One good thing about the Z06 is that it has more room than people would think so you can put stuff like that in the car. I'm not a golfer so you won't find any golf clubs in mine but you may find an AR-15 or Mossburg Persuader 12 Gauge from time to time...it's cool that stuff will fit in there.

When I bought mine I was on crutches...recovering from a compound fracture and shattered heel and ankle from a motorcycle accident and even the crutches fit in there...behind the seats. The look on people's faces was kinda funny to see me hobble in and out of the car but it worked just fine. :lol

Buying a Z06 "not to hot rod around in" sounds pretty lame to me...maybe he tracks the car ? If not...poor Z06. :wtfru:

I know people and have friends that buy and drive these cars like they were intended for but yep unfortunately there are a lot of Vette owners that have garage queens that they just want to wash and wax and drive slowly on a clear day and be seen in their Corvette...to each their own but that's just not me.

Oh and as I mentioned...this is my 4th Vette but 'back in the day' I've owned 4 Honda CRX's too...great little autocross cars that due to it's shape could make a stereo thump too. :rofl:

[z06boy]

That's because the workers in Bowling Green aren't your typical union workers and the cars are actually made well. IIRC GM selects good workers who aren't union friendly (though they are Union becuase they don't like replacing tires every week) and actually believe in doing good quality work. Mainly becuase they do plant tours and you can't have your typical UAW plant employee in the eye of the public becuase the tour would suck. You would be staring in at them and them staring back at you.

:cheers: Makes sense.

[the chi]

In regards to the buying a car and not using it as intended...there's a guy in town who special ordered a Shelby Mustang...the real deal mind you.

Why was it a special order you ask...? Because it's an effing AUTOMATIC!!!!! He had to special order to GET an AUTOMATIC.

And he doesnt even KNOW what he's got. He had money to blow, and thought it looked cool. Non driving, mechanically retarded dude who just wants it because it LOOKS cool.

I get pissed everytime I see that car driving around town. Usually because I'm PASSING it in my jeep or the hubby's truck, as it's going at or under the speed limit and I am just so angry that it's such a WASTE!

ARGHHHHHHH.

I've known a few of the vette guys who only took theirs to shows. As in, garaged, trailered with a cover everywhere and NEVER saw the road.

I'll just never understand that. Why spend the money on a vehicle you dont plan on using to its capabilities as best you can? If you've got the money to buy it in the first place just to let it sit around, arent chances good you can replace it when you rag it out??

[z06boy]

Agree again.

I work for a bunch of high end execs at a major corporation that make big money.

Several of them buy new cars every year or two and usually buy either Porsche, Mercedes, or BMW's. They can afford better but are mostly conservative and stick with these type cars. Not my current boss but my last two...which covers around 20 years or so would roll in with brand new Porsche 911 (993,996,997) Turbo's and only live about 4 miles from the office and NEVER really drive the cars. They also owned Mercedes AMG cars and BMW M cars and again...NEVER really drove the cars !!

Now the good part :lol: They were forever tossing me the keys and asking me to go get their car cleaned up or gassed up (I didn't actually wash the car or pump the gas mind you :lol:) and to take the car for a spin and blow it out a bit. :devil:

I've had some great fun...within reason...in some of those fine 500 hp Europeon vehicles.

Sometimes when they were trying to decide which vehicle to buy...the dealership would deliver cars for them and they would ask me to drive them and to give them my opinion.

There's also been a Superformance Cobra replica...a couple of Aston Martin's...a couple of Porsche GT3's and a Ferrari thown in from time to time.

Rough job but somebody had to do it...ahhh...the good old days. :lol:

Yep I've been paid to be a golpher but I consider it being a Golden Gopher. :idk:

I can't afford what they can...so I'm stuck with low end cheap interior Z06's and stuff.

[CasterTroy]

If you've got the money to buy it in the first place just to let it sit around, arent chances good you can replace it when you rag it out??
That's part of the problem.

example:

Some people see a Mercedes (or enter ANY luxury/sport car..or hell a house/boat..the list is long) as a status symbol...and do everything in their power to get credit approval for one. Despite living in a trailer park, working at Denny’s, when outside of home and work...and strolling down the street, observers don't have a clue this Mercedes driver can't rub 2 nickels together, but at THAT MOMENT in time, THEY are a superstar...or at least they THINK they are. Till it's time for the service on the car, and they freak at a $900 oil change (of course not just oil....other things as well, but roll with me here) so they either don't DO the service, or they offload the car, let it go back...whatever.

The same type example could be used for a supercar. Scrape and save every penny for that Audi A8....but God forbid it get a single scratch, because the budget is already stretched beyond thin to AFFORD that car, much less repair anything that may happen when actually railing it...or hell even buying TIRES for it.


Personally I'd rather buy a cheap bike/car and rail the piss out of it regularly, buying tires when I need to, gear as needed, and having leftover for trackdays and FUN, then sink every dime into a new S1000RR and not have enough at the end of the month to take it anywhere other than sonic

[Amber Lamps]

In regards to the buying a car and not using it as intended...there's a guy in town who special ordered a Shelby Mustang...the real deal mind you.

Why was it a special order you ask...? Because it's an effing AUTOMATIC!!!!! He had to special order to GET an AUTOMATIC.

And he doesnt even KNOW what he's got. He had money to blow, and thought it looked cool. Non driving, mechanically retarded dude who just wants it because it LOOKS cool.

I get pissed everytime I see that car driving around town. Usually because I'm PASSING it in my jeep or the hubby's truck, as it's going at or under the speed limit and I am just so angry that it's such a WASTE!

ARGHHHHHHH.

I've known a few of the vette guys who only took theirs to shows. As in, garaged, trailered with a cover everywhere and NEVER saw the road.

I'll just never understand that. Why spend the money on a vehicle you dont plan on using to its capabilities as best you can? If you've got the money to buy it in the first place just to let it sit around, arent chances good you can replace it when you rag it out??


Hmmm.... but I know several people whom won't ride their sport bikes hard on the street either. I don't know, for day to day driving, I don't see a problem with "cruising". I do agree with MP that it is silly to drag your sport car to the Gap to cruise around. Heck, I have a Mustang and I don't "hot rod" it everywhere I go but I do take it out to the back roads once in a while and let it run.:wink:

[defector]

Hmmm.... but I know several people whom won't ride their sport bikes hard on the street either. I don't know, for day to day driving, I don't see a problem with "cruising". I do agree with MP that it is silly to drag your sport car to the Gap to cruise around. Heck, I have a Mustang and I don't "hot rod" it everywhere I go but I do take it out to the back roads once in a while and let it run.:wink:

Beat me too it. I was gonna say roughly the same thing.

[the chi]

Hmmm.... but I know several people whom won't ride their sport bikes hard on the street either. I don't know, for day to day driving, I don't see a problem with "cruising". I do agree with MP that it is silly to drag your sport car to the Gap to cruise around. Heck, I have a Mustang and I don't "hot rod" it everywhere I go but I do take it out to the back roads once in a while and let it run.:wink:

But is their reasoning because they dont want to mess it up? Or because they dont want to kill themselves?

I dont rail on the street on my bike, but mostly because I dont want to kill myself. I'm perfectly happy making the attempt at the track however. :wink: As far as not wanting to mess it up, my bike is scratched, has decent high mileage and I firmly believe dirt builds character...:lol:

When I had my Mustang GT I drove it like it should be driven, I wasnt afraid to "hot rod" it, I took care of her as required, but I didnt go out of my way to make sure I did the speed limit and baby it, and when a punk in a ricer felt he needed to show out, well, I am perfectly aware of how to use my emergency lights when I school punks. :wink:

I agree with the statement on buying something I can easily afford to use it like it deserves and is meant to be used tho, not buying something just to say "look at what I got" and worrying about scratches, dirt, dents, etc.

As much as I love some of the exotics, and at this point in time I could maybe consider getting one, I just dont want to waste money on something I KNOW I am going to want to tear up. Give me a good old GSXR any day, or a base model 4 wheel drive jeep. Eventually I'll get another muscle car, but I want something truly special when I do, and maybe at that point in time I'll understand the "sunday car" mentality.

[z06boy]

That's part of the problem.

example:

Some people see a Mercedes (or enter ANY luxury/sport car..or hell a house/boat..the list is long) as a status symbol...and do everything in their power to get credit approval for one. Despite living in a trailer park, working at Denny’s, when outside of home and work...and strolling down the street, observers don't have a clue this Mercedes driver can't rub 2 nickels together, but at THAT MOMENT in time, THEY are a superstar...or at least they THINK they are. Till it's time for the service on the car, and they freak at a $900 oil change (of course not just oil....other things as well, but roll with me here) so they either don't DO the service, or they offload the car, let it go back...whatever.

The same type example could be used for a supercar. Scrape and save every penny for that Audi A8....but God forbid it get a single scratch, because the budget is already stretched beyond thin to AFFORD that car, much less repair anything that may happen when actually railing it...or hell even buying TIRES for it.


Personally I'd rather buy a cheap bike/car and rail the piss out of it regularly, buying tires when I need to, gear as needed, and having leftover for trackdays and FUN, then sink every dime into a new S1000RR and not have enough at the end of the month to take it anywhere other than sonic

Absolutely agree

Hmmm.... but I know several people whom won't ride their sport bikes hard on the street either. I don't know, for day to day driving, I don't see a problem with "cruising". I do agree with MP that it is silly to drag your sport car to the Gap to cruise around. Heck, I have a Mustang and I don't "hot rod" it everywhere I go but I do take it out to the back roads once in a while and let it run.:wink:

This is what I also do/meant in my post. I didn't mean to imply that I run balls out everytime I get in the car or on the bike for that matter...that wouldn't even make good sense plus it obviously would rag the car out. I drive it normal...ok cruise in it most of the time...couldn't keep my license if I didn't BUT I'm not afraid to play in it either. Even a 'cruise' can turn in to spirited driving if need be. I keep the maintenance up on it and the bike partially for these very situations.

I just think it's lame if you buy a performance car or bike and NEVER let it perform that's all. :idk:

Oh and these 'high end' guys I described above...I don't mean they're high end because they own an AMG car or a Porsche...these guys live in 10,000 sq. foot homes with another nice home in the mountains...one at the beach...own several of these cars blah...blah...blah.

I just work there...but I know I'm lucky to have my job too.

[Mudpuppy]

And I guess with the vette club I saw at the gap store it was their whole better than everyone attitude. I was surprised their ego could fit in this universe. Then the whole "crotch rocket" bashing really pissed me off.

Yes the vette is a bad ass car. I am not a big vette fan but I can respect they are a performance vehicle, etc. and not looking to debate what the best car(s) are or anything. But in the overall picture it's a fucking vette - it's not a ferrari, it's not a gt40, it's not a lambo, etc. The vette, like the mustang, is pretty much a common day sports car. It's affordable to most people whether you are a crack dealer in the hood or a middle class motherfucker in the burbs.

So you are going to put yourself on a pedestal because you own a vette and I, to the best of your knowledge based on little to no facts at that given time, don't or at least I was not in possession of one at that given time? Or perhaps in my motorcycle gear I appeared unworthy to even be in the presence of a vette. Ridiculous.

And obviously you have a fast car and right ahead of you is some optimum roads to let it breathe a bit. So excuse the fuck out of me for "assuming" you might bend the laws a bit as most of the sport bike riders do. And for god sake I apologize for trying to give you a heads up on a cop handing out tickets like candy in an unmarked car.

Next time I will smack the rotten washed up never has been nasty looked cottage cheese ass middle age bitch upside the head and piss in her fucking convertible vette and depending on my diet for the past couple of days I might even defecate on the seat.

Really I didn't care if they were using the vettes for what they were meant for I just really was trying to help fellow enthusiasts out.

Me personally I agree I buy stuff to use it for what it is made for and like someone said in one of the posts above I rail the shit out of everything I own. Not like I can take it with me when I die. It will get use and abuse, period. I am not into show cars or show bikes. I have nothing against it just not my thing.

[CrazyKell]

I don't really get the 'drive it like it should be driven' argument.

It's their money and they can do whatever they want with it, including buying a car they wanted and not "hot rodding" it. :shrug:

Of course it's great when people drive stuff like it "should" be driven. But really....who cares?

I don't rail my bike on the streets because it's reckless and endangering myself and others all the time isn't really my thing. And I'd argue that very few people do rail their bikes like they "should be ridden" because last time I checked no one's last name on here is Spies or Rossi. ;)

[z06boy]

Everyone has their opinions...just get the fvck out of the left lane if you choose to cruise..thanks and have a good day.

[CrazyKell]

Everyone has their opinions...just get the fvck out of the left lane if you choose to cruise..thanks and have a good day.

Don't even get me started on left lane sitters.

Railing or not....I'll run you down in my Mazda 3 if you're sitting in the left lane. :lmao:

[Mudpuppy]

I don't really get the 'drive it like it should be driven' argument.

It's their money and they can do whatever they want with it, including buying a car they wanted and not "hot rodding" it. :shrug:

Of course it's great when people drive stuff like it "should" be driven. But really....who cares?

I don't rail my bike on the streets because it's reckless and endangering myself and others all the time isn't really my thing. And I'd argue that very few people do rail their bikes like they "should be ridden" because last time I checked no one's last name on here is Spies or Rossi. ;)

You are splitting hairs..

I think the point is why buy a special edition mustang and then drive it under the speed limit? Why not just buy a luxury car or a something more suitable to your driving habits? Like these motherfuckers I know that buy a F350 Heavy Duty truck and then they haul their push lawn mowers in it? WTF? Why in god's name do you need an F350? A fucking Japanese piece of shit truck will easily haul your stupid lawn mower..

But you are right - it's their money and who cares? I don't really it just defies logic, etc.

[z06boy]

I only responded here because I got defensive and didn't want to be lumped in to the no driving...slow left lane riding egotistical lard azz Vette owner stereotype...because I know I'm not. :rofl:

Drive what you want...drive how you want...just gtfo of my way and if you roll up behind me I'll do the same. :rockwoot:

[the chi]

You are splitting hairs..

I think the point is why buy a special edition mustang and then drive it under the speed limit? Why not just buy a luxury car or a something more suitable to your driving habits? Like these motherfuckers I know that buy a F350 Heavy Duty truck and then they haul their push lawn mowers in it? WTF? Why in god's name do you need an F350? A fucking Japanese piece of shit truck will easily haul your stupid lawn mower..

But you are right - it's their money and who cares? I don't really it just defies logic, etc.

:lol: What he said!! Thats what gets me too.

I was reminded of the rally this year tho...the vipers that rolled up en masse...now THAT was a cool bunch of cars. :drool: And a good many of them were cool as hell, AND drove those cars incredibly. Not necessarily safely or within the law, but watching them play leapfrog across the skyway (safely from an overlook) was pretty badass.

[azoomm]

I don't know, I have now come to the understanding that it's their money.... if they want to spend it in what some of us believe to be a ridiculous manner, go for it.

[z06boy]

:lol: What he said!! Thats what gets me too.

I was reminded of the rally this year tho...the vipers that rolled up en masse...now THAT was a cool bunch of cars. :drool: And a good many of them were cool as hell, AND drove those cars incredibly. Not necessarily safely or within the law, but watching them play leapfrog across the skyway (safely from an overlook) was pretty badass.


Fun cars to drive too !!

Me with an instructor from the Skip Barber Driving School...

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b6d832b3127ccece0e402111ec00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/



...and the wife...

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b6d832b3127ccece0e05d6d09100000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D550/ry%3D400/

We thrashed them around a road course for a while and then on this autocross course...fun day.

[the chi]

I hate you man. Srsly.

Just kidding, but you are damn lucky. I got to drive one. Once. He'd had it worked on and it was pushing over 800 hp. I also got pulled over. Fortunately he was on another road and only SAW me on the other road. He he he.

[z06boy]

I hate you man. Srsly.

Just kidding, but you are damn lucky. I got to drive one. Once. He'd had it worked on and it was pushing over 800 hp. I also got pulled over. Fortunately he was on another road and only SAW me on the other road. He he he.

:lol: Funny story...well as long as you didn't get a ticket that is. I'm sure YOU can get out of a ticket easier than most of us. :rofl:

Over 800 hp ? :rockwoot: These two we were driving were stock but at least no worries of being pulled over or some knucklehead pulling out in front of us or blocking us in the left lane. :lol:

[the chi]

It gets even funnier.

Heard the phrase "hopping mad"? I was on a 2 lane, small curvy road that paralleled the main road, he saw us (had a gorgeous blond friend with me, I'm sure it didnt hurt as far as not getting the ticket), chase us down when we were returning to the starting point, pulled us over, came running up to the door and was literally jumping up and down as he hollered at us. Then he proceeded to call it in as "red sportscar, unknown make and model" (at which point I almost asked for his man card) and proceeded to give us a dressing down while he waited to find out if we'd stolen it. :lol:

It wasn't stolen, he couldnt manage to clock us and well, he had nothing on us so he had to let us go. Don't ya know he had a bad night. :lol:

[Mudpuppy]

I don't know, I have now come to the understanding that it's their money.... if they want to spend it in what some of us believe to be a ridiculous manner, go for it.

ok you want to split hairs I reckon?

YES it is their RIGHT to spend their money however the fuck they want to and if they want to buttfuck the car with no lube and never drive it then HAVE AT IT for all I care.

BUT it is ALSO my RIGHT to think it is stupid.

So there - put that in your pipe and fucking smoke it.

And 800hp? Holy shit. That is truly bad ass. It is really amazing to me what they can get out of engines now.

[z06boy]

Local shop here....They 'used' to only do Mustangs...then Vipers and Ford GT's...now GEEZ !!

http://www.undergroundracing.com/

Here is a car show I'm going to in the morning just to check things out. I'm not taking my car...the wife and I will ride our bikes. They meet once a month and some of the finest vehicles I've seen. 1000 hp Z06's...Lambo's...1200 hp cars etc...


http://charlotte.carsandcoffee.info/

[z06boy]

It gets even funnier.

Heard the phrase "hopping mad"? I was on a 2 lane, small curvy road that paralleled the main road, he saw us (had a gorgeous blond friend with me, I'm sure it didnt hurt as far as not getting the ticket), chase us down when we were returning to the starting point, pulled us over, came running up to the door and was literally jumping up and down as he hollered at us. Then he proceeded to call it in as "red sportscar, unknown make and model" (at which point I almost asked for his man card) and proceeded to give us a dressing down while he waited to find out if we'd stolen it. :lol:

It wasn't stolen, he couldnt manage to clock us and well, he had nothing on us so he had to let us go. Don't ya know he had a bad night. :lol:

:dvrofl::dvrofl:

[Homeslice]

Vipers might sound nice inside, I don't know I've never driven one........But from the outside they sound like shit. Give me a Vette any day over that.

[Dave]

It gets even funnier.

Heard the phrase "hopping mad"? I was on a 2 lane, small curvy road that paralleled the main road, he saw us (had a gorgeous blond friend with me, I'm sure it didnt hurt as far as not getting the ticket), chase us down when we were returning to the starting point, pulled us over, came running up to the door and was literally jumping up and down as he hollered at us. Then he proceeded to call it in as "red sportscar, unknown make and model" (at which point I almost asked for his man card) and proceeded to give us a dressing down while he waited to find out if we'd stolen it. :lol:

It wasn't stolen, he couldnt manage to clock us and well, he had nothing on us so he had to let us go. Don't ya know he had a bad night. :lol:

I got that reaction once in the nsx, 110+ in a 45 on a farm road. Military id turned it into a tint ticket :lol:

[z06boy]

Vipers might sound nice inside, I don't know I've never driven one........But from the outside they sound like shit. Give me a Vette any day over that.

Agree 100 % The exhaust note is not very impressive at all to me from the Viper. A Vette or even a Mustang sounds much better. Another negative about the Viper is HEAT...it will fry you. My Vette has the performance plus very cold A/C plus an Active Handling System and Traction Control that the Viper doesn't have. It is a badazz car though.

I got that reaction once in the nsx, 110+ in a 45 on a farm road. Military id turned it into a tint ticket :lol:


You did better than me. My last ticket in the Vette was for 105 in a 55... I had luckily just slowed down from a bit more than 105...got pulled went through the "I have a concealed weapon officer" thing and he ended up lowering it to a 70 in a 55. I had to attend a 4hour safe driving class and then it did not hit my insurance.

The very next day is when it was taken to the shop to get the supercharger...cam and full exhaust installed. :lol:

[Dave]

Agree 100 % The exhaust note is not very impressive at all to me from the Viper. A Vette or even a Mustang sounds much better. Another negative about the Viper is HEAT...it will fry you. My Vette has the performance plus very cold A/C plus an Active Handling System and Traction Control that the Viper doesn't have. It is a badazz car though.




You did better than me. My last ticket in the Vette was for 105 in a 55... I had luckily just slowed down from a bit more than 105...got pulled went through the "I have a concealed weapon officer" thing and he ended up lowering it to a 70 in a 55. I had to attend a 4hour safe driving class and then it did not hit my insurance.

The very next day is when it was taken to the shop to get the supercharger...cam and full exhaust installed. :lol:

Jeez lol

[Amber Lamps]

You are splitting hairs..

I think the point is why buy a special edition mustang and then drive it under the speed limit? Why not just buy a luxury car or a something more suitable to your driving habits? Like these motherfuckers I know that buy a F350 Heavy Duty truck and then they haul their push lawn mowers in it? WTF? Why in god's name do you need an F350? A fucking Japanese piece of shit truck will easily haul your stupid lawn mower..

But you are right - it's their money and who cares? I don't really it just defies logic, etc.

I was going to respond to Rae Rae but you'll do... The special edition Mustang looks COOL!!!!! That's why! I'm sorry, it's not always, "hey look at me", maybe he just likes the way it looks. The truck thing is the same... I'd rather look at a 2011 F-350 in the driveway than some "Japanese pos"... I love the way my bike looks and I sometimes stare at it for minutes at a time... I doubt I'd feel the same about a Kymco 125 although it would still get me from A-B. Seriously fellas, if we all only bought EXACTLY the bare minimum of what we need, we'd all be driving mopeds and Yugos. I don't even want to contemplate a world like that!!!:panic:

[Particle Man]

I find that as I get older I have no issues with driving at or even under the speed limit even in a "fast car"

I do, however, pull the f over if I'm in sightseeing mode and there's other traffic around.