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series of pics:
http://www.photoreflect.com/store/ThumbPage.aspx?e=7178977&g=0QAK00SR0B
http://www.photoreflect.com/web/bin/prpv.dll?photo?z=6B790E56EB6064197EC5355AE5EBFCDC1 7FD9DC9AD3872B03D3E3E832ECF2CC3AA1EA106CBEE3EB0
tommymac
09-22-2010, 12:21 PM
That sux, cant be cheap fixing all that stuff on a new priller.
Temp plates too, some military guy with too much bonus cash.
http://us129photos.com/images/stories/PhotosOfTheWeek/20100921/2.jpg
HE could show his buds this pic and they would think he was bad ass though. This is a really cool pic if you didn't know what came after.
http://us129photos.com/images/stories/PhotosOfTheWeek/20100921/1.jpg
the chi
09-22-2010, 12:29 PM
I hurt for the bike.
Props to the dude tho, he got back on and apparently rode it back down the hill.
I like the sparklies tho, neat touch.
Nahhh, you can see he's going down. When I saw that pic I wondered what might be going through his head at that moment...
What's the cord from the seat? And at least he had sliders
Nahhh, you can see he's going down. When I saw that pic I wondered what might be going through his head at that moment...
He actually looks like quite a few locals, so I wouldn't be so sure about that.
What's the cord from the seat? And at least he had sliders
probably a headset cable
askmrjesus
09-22-2010, 12:37 PM
When I saw that pic I wondered what might be going through his head at that moment...
I believe it was FUCK!
JC
Dnyce
09-22-2010, 12:38 PM
i was wondering that too, at first i thought it was a tether kill, but maybe its for a radio
KSGregman
09-22-2010, 12:56 PM
Ouch....
That is gonna hurt both the ego and the wallet.
He was wearing full gear, and was able to ride the bike away, good for him
marko138
09-22-2010, 12:59 PM
Totally shitty.
wildchild
09-22-2010, 03:55 PM
Nahhh, you can see he's going down. When I saw that pic I wondered what might be going through his head at that moment...
mulligan dammit mulligan
Particle Man
09-22-2010, 04:30 PM
Ouch. He can't be too happy
CrazyKell
09-22-2010, 04:48 PM
That'll buff right out. ;)
Glad for full gear!
Evadd
09-22-2010, 05:20 PM
i'm all for great crash pics, but there comes a time when you should put down the damn camera and help them pull the bike out of the bushes. i'm pretty sure i'd have been throwing both obscenities and rocks at the photog if he just stood there snapping pics the whole time.
Switch
09-22-2010, 05:35 PM
Stop, HAMMERTIME.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_eJgBsPDC44M/TJp2XYF5ylI/AAAAAAAAAvs/n4UvwxZkrgg/s800/hammertime.PNG
That bike was far down there, and there was already a tow truck involved, the cameraman would have been getting in the way. Plus I think its a chick.
Stop, HAMMERTIME.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_eJgBsPDC44M/TJp2XYF5ylI/AAAAAAAAAvs/n4UvwxZkrgg/s800/hammertime.PNG
thought the same thing
That bike was far down there, and there was already a tow truck involved, the cameraman would have been getting in the way. Plus I think its a chick.
People helped him once the tow truck got there. They guided it back up the hill. It was a dude.
People helped him once the tow truck got there. They guided it back up the hill. It was a dude.
Doesnt matter either way, the guy still had a seperate job to do and it wasnt to help someone who was already out of danger. If the guy was hurt on the floor broken and squirming in pain and the dude kept taking photos I would have a problem with it, from what the photo tells me, dude was out of danger
101lifts2
09-22-2010, 11:00 PM
Draggin hard parts is usually going to make you go down. Didn't look like that far of a lean angle to be dragging stuff. I think the 600s have better clearance.
Draggin hard parts is usually going to make you go down. Didn't look like that far of a lean angle to be dragging stuff. I think the 600s have better clearance.
http://us129photos.com/images/stories/PhotosOfTheWeek/20100921/1.jpg
WUT?
101lifts2
09-22-2010, 11:09 PM
Look at the 7th pic....the rear wheel was up in the air and didn't spin around. Something picked up the bike so the rear lost traction.
The pic you posted looks like the exhaust is already on the ground..hence the sparkies.
Evadd
09-22-2010, 11:32 PM
Doesnt matter either way, the guy still had a seperate job to do and it wasnt to help someone who was already out of danger. If the guy was hurt on the floor broken and squirming in pain and the dude kept taking photos I would have a problem with it, from what the photo tells me, dude was out of danger
sure. not your problem, so why give a rat's ass to lend a helping hand? :td:
put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute: if you were trying to dig your bike out of the trees and some fool is standing 20 feet away snappin photos instead of helping, would you be happy about it?
Look at the 7th pic....the rear wheel was up in the air and didn't spin around. Something picked up the bike so the rear lost traction.
The pic you posted looks like the exhaust is already on the ground..hence the sparkies.
im responding to your dont think hes over far enough business. look at my avy, hes past tomizawa :lol:
101lifts2
09-23-2010, 02:37 AM
im responding to your dont think hes over far enough business. look at my avy, hes past tomizawa :lol:
Oh yeah he's leaned over far, but he lowsided because he dragged hard parts, not because the tires let go. At least that is what appears to me.
sure. not your problem, so why give a rat's ass to lend a helping hand? :td:
put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute: if you were trying to dig your bike out of the trees and some fool is standing 20 feet away snappin photos instead of helping, would you be happy about it?
Exactly its not the guys problem, his problem is that he needs to keep taking pictures of all the bikes riding by to get the best shot so that some dick on a harley might buy a picture a few weeks from then and put some food on the guys table. Is his job to take pictures and without those pictures there is no income, so yes a long as everything is alright its not the photogs problem.
Having met some of them, I guarantee that he didnt just stand there, prolly offered the guy some TP, something to drink, a chair, offered to get help, did everything he could to help the guy. But from the looks of it there were 4 other people pulling that bike out of the woods, they didnt need help
Rider
09-23-2010, 08:09 AM
Dude needed to get off the bike more. Oh well, insurance will get him a new bike.
snobuny
09-23-2010, 08:19 AM
Pics like that happen so fast when you have the camera, I have been there! Those cameras take up to 15 frames per second. He could have snappen all those pics, dropped the camera in a safe place and been over to stop traffic before the dust settled and it was safe for him to be on the road. These photographers go out of their way to help people, they don't just stand there and watch you bleed.
I say he was lucky for it to happen where someone could help him (or he knew the camera guy was there and trying for a good shot.....always a bad idea!), cell coverage is spotty in that area. Glad to see he had on gear, made this less painful than it could have been.
Now on to the pics, its ok to drag a knee but if you are not getting off the bike and you arn't rossi you need to spend some time on the basics! Dragging a knee is so you can keep the bike in a safer, more upright position and keep them hard parts off the ground with better contact patches on the tires......i.e. keith code!
I know when I am on my track bike and the toe touches, the rearset is next and the ground is not far behind unless I get my tush off to the side more or lever the bike up with my knee.
Hopefully someone will let him know about riding technique. Still a great set of pic's from a photographers perspective.
sure. not your problem, so why give a rat's ass to lend a helping hand? :td:
put yourself in someone else's shoes for a minute: if you were trying to dig your bike out of the trees and some fool is standing 20 feet away snappin photos instead of helping, would you be happy about it?
Seriously, why are you being such a fuckin douche about this? HE DID GIVE A HELPING HAND AFTER THE GUY QUIT SPINNING. These photographers see wrecks all the time. Look at Killboy.com, there is like 2 or 3 wrecks on the front page this week. They check on the rider/driver after each one. The guy paid for a tow service to get him back up the mountain, not the photog. They can't run around the gap helping every idiot that flys off the mountain. They have no concern for bike damage, they will assist in what they can in human damage.
Seriously don't come to the gap because you obviously have no fucking idea what you are talking about and don't understand how much help the photog's are to the place.
the chi
09-23-2010, 09:02 AM
I would LOVE to have pics of my crash...it'd be worth every penny to make a flip book outta it. :lol:
Seriously tho, Evadd how do you know the guy didnt ask them to get some shots of pulling it up the mountain? I know I would have just for the novelties sake.
marko138
09-23-2010, 09:26 AM
I would LOVE to have pics of my crash...it'd be worth every penny to make a flip book outta it. :lol:
Seriously tho, Evadd how do you know the guy didnt ask them to get some shots of pulling it up the mountain? I know I would have just for the novelties sake.
For sure, If I'm going down it would be cool to have pics....to look at at a much later date. :lol:
Switch
09-23-2010, 11:29 AM
He probably dragged his right peg and it unset the suspension, thus eliminating any traction the rear wheel had, causing him to spin like that.
Cutty72
09-23-2010, 11:41 AM
Temp plates too, some military guy with too much bonus cash.
Why does it have to always be a military guy? Maybe its an engineer that thought it would be cool to have the bestest bike evar so he can ride like rossi.
Or do you know the guy, so you know his story?
And after putting the bike down, why would you not put your jacket back on to ride it out?
He probably dragged his right peg and it unset the suspension, thus eliminating any traction the rear wheel had, causing him to spin like that.
Those things do come with some pretty epic feelers
Why does it have to always be a military guy? Maybe its an engineer that thought it would be cool to have the bestest bike evar so he can ride like rossi.
Or do you know the guy, so you know his story?
And after putting the bike down, why would you not put your jacket back on to ride it out?
Good point, though if I had the chance to re-up for 15k tax free again id cert dump it right into a rsv4r just like it, albiet in black :lol:
Cutty72
09-23-2010, 11:47 AM
Good point, though if I had the chance to re-up for 15k tax free again id cert dump it right into a rsv4r just like it, albiet in black :lol:
Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But why is that always everyones first assumption.
Why does it have to always be a military guy? Maybe its an engineer that thought it would be cool to have the bestest bike evar so he can ride like rossi.
Or do you know the guy, so you know his story?
And after putting the bike down, why would you not put your jacket back on to ride it out?
Because it was posted on the local forum and the photog and local that helped him pull it out talked to him for awhile waiting for the tow truck.
Yeah, I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But why is that always everyones first assumption.
it wasn't an assumption, it was fact
z06boy
09-23-2010, 11:54 AM
For sure, If I'm going down it would be cool to have pics....to look at at a much later date. :lol:
Yep because when I got hit several years ago on the Big Dog Bull Dog that I owned I had a compound fracture of my femur and have often wondered if it was already sticking out (had to be) and what it must have looked like when I went flying over the car and thru the air for a little while plus bouncing/tumbling down the road. I wonder if my leg was flopping around in weird positions the whole time. I wouldn't have wanted to see it right then but now I'd love too !! :lol:
Cutty72
09-23-2010, 12:01 PM
Because it was posted on the local forum and the photog and local that helped him pull it out talked to him for awhile waiting for the tow truck.
it wasn't an assumption, it was fact
Well then it's fine.
Evadd
09-23-2010, 12:04 PM
Seriously, why are you being such a fuckin douche about this? HE DID GIVE A HELPING HAND AFTER THE GUY QUIT SPINNING. These photographers see wrecks all the time. Look at Killboy.com, there is like 2 or 3 wrecks on the front page this week. They check on the rider/driver after each one. The guy paid for a tow service to get him back up the mountain, not the photog. They can't run around the gap helping every idiot that flys off the mountain. They have no concern for bike damage, they will assist in what they can in human damage.
Seriously don't come to the gap because you obviously have no fucking idea what you are talking about and don't understand how much help the photog's are to the place.
is this the part where you tell me locals rule? no, that would be a waste of your time? so this is the part where you kick my ass? :tremble:
in any case, i stand by statement about Derf saying "i don't need to help b/c it's not my job". that's still BS, and if you agree, then you're the kind of person i don't hang around long.
btw, if you had actual info that could have cleared it up like "the photog DID help him out" that would have been useful and i would have dropped it right away, instead of flyin off your horse and calling people a fuckin douche. you fuckin douche.
is this the part where you tell me locals rule? no, that would be a waste of your time? so this is the part where you kick my ass? :tremble:
in any case, i stand by statement about Derf saying "i don't need to help b/c it's not my job". that's still BS, and if you agree, then you're the kind of person i don't hang around long.
btw, if you had actual info that could have cleared it up like "the photog DID help him out" that would have been useful and i would have dropped it right away, instead of flyin off your horse and calling people a fuckin douche. you fuckin douche.
Dude, you are the one who came in here blasting the photog for no reason because you made assumptions based on a photo. You are being a douche about it.
The photog's use to help pull bikes down from the hillside, they had tow ropes and would get people back on the road before anyone even knew there was an accident. The problem is that if they do that, riders can flee the scene of an accident and the photog can get in trouble for assisting. They stopped doing it because they are trying to operate legitimate businesses. They let the cops and tow trucks do the work now. They continue running their business like they should. They have no issue helping with someone injured til medical services arrive, but bike recovery is not part of their services and it shouldn't be because of the legal rammifications that can come from it.
Other locals stopped to help this guy out to guide his bike back up the hill with the tow truck people so they wouldn't fuck up his bike. There was more than this photog at this turn when it happened. The guy had assistance and was very thankful to the people that helped him out. A local even followed this man to wheeler's because he had no rear brake and a partially stuck throttle, but that probably isn't helpful enough to you.
Switch
09-23-2010, 12:47 PM
Why do you even respond to trolling?
Evadd
09-23-2010, 02:19 PM
Dude, you are the one who came in here blasting the photog for no reason because you made assumptions based on a photo. You are being a douche about it.
The photog's use to help pull bikes down from the hillside, they had tow ropes and would get people back on the road before anyone even knew there was an accident. The problem is that if they do that, riders can flee the scene of an accident and the photog can get in trouble for assisting. They stopped doing it because they are trying to operate legitimate businesses. They let the cops and tow trucks do the work now. They continue running their business like they should. They have no issue helping with someone injured til medical services arrive, but bike recovery is not part of their services and it shouldn't be because of the legal rammifications that can come from it.
Other locals stopped to help this guy out to guide his bike back up the hill with the tow truck people so they wouldn't fuck up his bike. There was more than this photog at this turn when it happened. The guy had assistance and was very thankful to the people that helped him out. A local even followed this man to wheeler's because he had no rear brake and a partially stuck throttle, but that probably isn't helpful enough to you.
some of that is helpful; thanks for providing info. had you done it from the beginning, i would have shut up. but no, you came running back with your unnecessary name-calling. pretty douchey of yourself.
Bonesaw - no trolling here. been here for a couple years after CF went under. i don't post all that much, but am around more now that i miss a lot of the CF people.
anywho, i apologize for getting the thread off track.
some of that is helpful; thanks for providing info. had you done it from the beginning, i would have shut up. but no, you came running back with your unnecessary name-calling. pretty douchey of yourself.
Bonesaw - no trolling here. been here for a couple years after CF went under. i don't post all that much, but am around more now that i miss a lot of the CF people.
anywho, i apologize for getting the thread off track.
Naw I still gotta disagree with you, its not the photogs job. I'm sure he would have helped if the guy was dying on the road but the guy needs to make a living, and the only way they make money is by taking photos, plus how many asshats do you think wreck right in front of them? If they tried to help recover every bike they would never take any pictures.
101lifts2
09-23-2010, 07:48 PM
Why do you even respond to trolling?
He isn't trolling broham...he's a doctor....someone who actually cares about helping others. I know..I know..it hard to understand. redflip
Kaneman
09-23-2010, 07:49 PM
I've never seen a NASCAR camera man run onto the track after a crash to make sure the driver was ok...
Just sayin'
101lifts2
09-23-2010, 07:54 PM
....Seriously don't come to the gap because you obviously have no fucking idea what you are talking about and don't understand how much help the photog's are to the place.
I've seen more first hand road crashes then most on here and we in almost all cases help the rider as well as get his bike back upright on the road. We usually roll it up in someone's truck.
But you have a point in that there are many other people to help as well. You really do need the camera man for the memory pics. :lol:
Homeslice
09-23-2010, 08:20 PM
The guy is in the process of crashing, the photog can't help during that process. Let the guy finish crashing and THEN run over to help. Simple lowside anyway, he didn't hit a guardrail or anything.
Sweet pics. Ditch the outdated boots though........Velcro flaps on the inside of the leg suck, because they get stuck on your rearsets.
101lifts2
09-23-2010, 08:24 PM
The guy is in the process of crashing, the photog can't help during that process. Let the guy finish crashing and THEN run over to help. Simple lowside anyway, he didn't hit a guardrail or anything.
Sweet pics. Ditch the outdated boots though........Velcro flaps on the inside of the leg suck, because they get stuck on your rearsets.
Not with pants over it.redflip
TYEster
09-23-2010, 08:30 PM
This is why I never even bothered to test ride AF1s demo RSV4.
I couldn't afford to buy it, to ride it or to wreck it. And if I can't do those 3 things and still come on top, I shouldn't own it.
Homeslice
09-23-2010, 08:49 PM
Not with pants over it.redflip
You mean with Dainese's pant-over-boot suits? I thought they stopped making those. Dumb idea anyway, IMO.
Gas Man
10-02-2010, 09:31 PM
At least he was geared up...
No Worries
10-03-2010, 01:44 AM
HE could show his buds this pic and they would think he was bad ass though. This is a really cool pic if you didn't know what came after.
http://us129photos.com/images/stories/PhotosOfTheWeek/20100921/1.jpg
From this picture angle, it looks like the rider came downhill. I know I have old bikes, but do you not have to use the brakes on new bikes?
I use my brakes before the turn and keep them on in downhill curves. Especially when it's as sharp as this turn. If I see a curve like this up ahead, I will at least cover the brake lever. And yes, I have put the brakes on lightly in a corner.
Who knows, if he had the brakes on, it might have slowed him enough, and changed the bike's geometry enough that he would have made the corner. Whatever happened to "slow in, fast out?"
Plus, he's using the inside tire track on a right-hand turn. That's the tightest radius. Good for the track, but not so good on roads, as that's where cars and trucks kick up gravel from cutting the corner. If he had used the outside tire track, he would have a wider radius, would have a better view around the corner, and still wouldn't have to worry about his head crossing the double yellow.
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