View Full Version : This is sweet
101lifts2
10-04-2010, 01:58 AM
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/vehicles/peugeot-car-range/peugeot-rcz/build-price/
Riceaholic
10-04-2010, 03:22 AM
Nice looking car but you lost me at 200hp....
Particle Man
10-04-2010, 05:57 AM
Nice looking car but you lost me at 200hp....
Srsly. Hell, a Volvo S60 can be driven off the lot with 300+...
Adeptus_Minor
10-04-2010, 10:20 AM
Diesel sport coupe.
Awesome.
AquaPython
10-04-2010, 10:38 AM
front end is hideous
Rider
10-04-2010, 10:47 AM
Srsly. Hell, a Volvo S60 can be driven off the lot with 300+...
Lots of cars have 300+ now V6 mustang, v6 camaro, 370Z, G37, IS350, 535....
300 is the new 200 of 10 years ago.
z06boy
10-04-2010, 10:51 AM
First glance sort of reminds me of the Audi TT
101lifts2
10-04-2010, 12:10 PM
Nice looking car but you lost me at 200hp....
Sure, but what other cars in this class have a diesel?...redflip
Mikey
10-04-2010, 12:16 PM
Nice looking car but you lost me at 200hp....
Yeah, 200hp isn't a lot, but what are the torque numbers? Being a diesel, I'm inclined to think the torque should be plety to keep it competitive.
I'd like to see more diesels available in the US. I'd really like to have a turbodiesel, but I can't justify a 3/4 ton or larger truck to put it in. If I could get a clean turbodiesel in a sedan or smaller truck (something like a Ranger or even a half-ton) with a real manual transmission, I'd be stoked.
Particle Man
10-04-2010, 12:24 PM
Lots of cars have 300+ now V6 mustang, v6 camaro, 370Z, G37, IS350, 535....
300 is the new 200 of 10 years ago.
I know. That was my point about the 200 in the op
goof2
10-04-2010, 12:36 PM
Sure, but what other cars in this class have a diesel?...redflip
In America not many, but considering this car isn't coming here it should be compared to its competition in Europe where they pretty much all have multiple diesel options.
Yeah, 200hp isn't a lot, but what are the torque numbers? Being a diesel, I'm inclined to think the torque should be plety to keep it competitive.
I'd like to see more diesels available in the US. I'd really like to have a turbodiesel, but I can't justify a 3/4 ton or larger truck to put it in. If I could get a clean turbodiesel in a sedan or smaller truck (something like a Ranger or even a half-ton) with a real manual transmission, I'd be stoked.
Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS
Particle Man
10-04-2010, 12:37 PM
Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS
With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.
With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.
He didn't say anything about that :P
Mikey
10-04-2010, 12:47 PM
He didn't say anything about that :P
I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.
I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels. ;)
I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.
I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels. ;)
In that case yer looking at bmw, old mercedes, datsun maximas, and that horrendous oldsmobile
Particle Man
10-04-2010, 12:56 PM
I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.
I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels. ;)
I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.
Mikey
10-04-2010, 01:02 PM
I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.
Yeah, I know. I got really excited over the diesel GM built for their half-ton trucks, only to have them kill the project before it ever went into production. Even if they had built it, it was projected to tack on something like another $6K onto the price of the truck, which is way too much damn money.
I have seen Ford Rangers overseas with small turbodiesels and manual transmissions. I know that the EPA makes diesel production in the US a bitch, but is it really just not possible to get something like that over here without a ridiculous price tag?
Adeptus_Minor
10-04-2010, 01:38 PM
First glance sort of reminds me of the Audi TT
Mix between the TT and the Mitsubishi Eclipse, yeah.
TYEster
10-04-2010, 05:58 PM
Hmm reminds me of a mini-R8...
tallywacker
10-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Yeah, I know. I got really excited over the diesel GM built for their half-ton trucks, only to have them kill the project before it ever went into production. Even if they had built it, it was projected to tack on something like another $6K onto the price of the truck, which is way too much damn money.
I have seen Ford Rangers overseas with small turbodiesels and manual transmissions. I know that the EPA makes diesel production in the US a bitch, but is it really just not possible to get something like that over here without a ridiculous price tag?
New VW light duty truck not coming to US market, with a diesel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIDH9Ue9_0g
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/12/amarok00.jpg
Ran in the Dekar rally this year
Avatard
10-04-2010, 07:38 PM
New VW light duty truck not coming to US market, with a diesel.
Retards. That would sell here.
goof2
10-04-2010, 08:02 PM
Retards. That would sell here.
You may be right but I doubt it. I can't think of a single light duty diesel that has sold well in this country in the last 20 years. Add in the likelihood the price will be somewhere between the Jetta Sportwagon TDI (base $24k) and the Touareg TDI (base $44k) and you end up with a $30k+ four banger truck with 160hp. In my opinion that isn't a recipe for success.:shrug:
Avatard
10-04-2010, 08:18 PM
They'd have to build it here, and price it right, but I think given that; it would sell.
goof2
10-04-2010, 08:37 PM
They'd have to build it here, and price it right, but I think given that; it would sell.
Theoretically that may help, but considering VW decided long ago to build the Amarok in Argentina and the Jetta wagon with the lower power version of the 4 banger diesel only driving the front wheels bases at over $24k I don't believe either is possible.
101lifts2
10-04-2010, 09:36 PM
People in the U.S. do not want to buy a 30k small pickup. What they want is a 30mpg full size truck for 30k.
GM should have never canned their small diesel 4.5L engine, but with the stringent NOx requirements needing Urea injection, I guess I could see the reason. Another 3-5K added to the price of an already 30k Silverado 1500.
Mikey
10-05-2010, 06:58 PM
People in the U.S. do not want to buy a 30k small pickup. What they want is a 30mpg full size truck for 30k.
GM should have never canned their small diesel 4.5L engine, but with the stringent NOx requirements needing Urea injection, I guess I could see the reason. Another 3-5K added to the price of an already 30k Silverado 1500.
If a dealer ever showed me a $30K small pickup, I'd punch him in the face. $30K is too much for a full-size pickup, let alone a small truck.
I buy my trucks to work. That's why I'm interested in small diesel engines- they are great workhorses.
Seriously, though, I challenge any manufacturer to bring a light pickup with a diesel and a real manual transmission that can be sold for under $18K. I don't need (or want) leather interior, quad cabs, bucket seats, DVD players, or even power windows, Give me a basic truck that will get the work done while getting decent mileage, and I'm in.
tallywacker
10-05-2010, 09:44 PM
If a dealer ever showed me a $30K small pickup, I'd punch him in the face. $30K is too much for a full-size pickup, let alone a small truck.
I buy my trucks to work. That's why I'm interested in small diesel engines- they are great workhorses.
Seriously, though, I challenge any manufacturer to bring a light pickup with a diesel and a real manual transmission that can be sold for under $18K. I don't need (or want) leather interior, quad cabs, bucket seats, DVD players, or even power windows, Give me a basic truck that will get the work done while getting decent mileage, and I'm in.
I would too. I have no need for a giant truck.
KSGregman
10-06-2010, 05:28 PM
Looks a little like my Eclipse GT....except my Eclipse makes quite a bit more HP. :lol:
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