View Full Version : Rutgers player head injury
tommymac
10-18-2010, 07:24 AM
Guy had a C-spine injury and is paralized sp? from the neck down :( looks like the guy had his head down when he made the hit
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/ncf/news/story?id=5696563
Yep dude got hit neck down, and then to the side in the same hit. Still not moving
tommymac
10-18-2010, 01:09 PM
Yep dude got hit neck down, and then to the side in the same hit. Still not moving
I saw the hit with his head down then see his whole body straighten out, that was it right there. At least they took him to hackensack hospital, thats a damn good facility there, so hes in very capable hands.
Porkchop
10-18-2010, 02:25 PM
That terrible. :panic:
I saw the hit with his head down then see his whole body straighten out, that was it right there. At least they took him to hackensack hospital, thats a damn good facility there, so hes in very capable hands.
He's pretty fucked either way, any chance of pro ball is out the window, he lost his scholarship (although the school will prolly let him finish for free), and there is a decent chance he will be limited with his physical abilities, if he ever is able to move again.
tommymac
10-18-2010, 02:41 PM
He's pretty fucked either way, any chance of pro ball is out the window, he lost his scholarship (although the school will prolly let him finish for free), and there is a decent chance he will be limited with his physical abilities, if he ever is able to move again.
Where did it say he lost his ride? Not sure he had a chance at the pros, he was a backup D-tackle and special teams player. hes got a tough road ahead of him depending on how severe this all winds up being. There are plenty of support groups that help guys in these situations and the school will def help him out.
dReWpY
10-18-2010, 02:54 PM
i have never seen someone stiffen up like that after a hit
tommymac
10-18-2010, 03:13 PM
i have never seen someone stiffen up like that after a hit
That was prety strange, usualy the guy just goes limp and hits the floor, seems like all his extensor muscles fired and he straightened right out.
Where did it say he lost his ride? Not sure he had a chance at the pros, he was a backup D-tackle and special teams player. hes got a tough road ahead of him depending on how severe this all winds up being. There are plenty of support groups that help guys in these situations and the school will def help him out.
Just looking at crosstalk on FB with folks that know him. Some of my brothers friends do part time work with the rutgers football team, and thats all I've seen on facebook since yesterday.
Most of the talk surrounds his scholarship elegibility (needs to be able to be maintained on the roster) because he wont be able to play and that he was expecting to play in the minors after he graduated
Particle Man
10-18-2010, 03:32 PM
Man that is shitty :(
tommymac
10-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Just looking at crosstalk on FB with folks that know him. Some of my brothers friends do part time work with the rutgers football team, and thats all I've seen on facebook since yesterday.
Most of the talk surrounds his scholarship elegibility (needs to be able to be maintained on the roster) because he wont be able to play and that he was expecting to play in the minors after he graduated
I think if they pulled his scholarship the media would destroy them, its not like he tore his acl or anything like that. this story has gotten a lot of press so now the school almost has to step up and make sure hes taken care of.
What minor leagues are they talking about. The CFL, That new UFL or a semi pro team?
Flexin
10-18-2010, 04:28 PM
Damn I hate seeing that. I hope he recovers.
James
I think if they pulled his scholarship the media would destroy them, its not like he tore his acl or anything like that. this story has gotten a lot of press so now the school almost has to step up and make sure hes taken care of.
What minor leagues are they talking about. The CFL, That new UFL or a semi pro team?
I saw something about having to maintain a higher gpa than he would have needed to maintain to keep the scholarship if he was active on the team, people were asking what his gpa was so I dont know. Same thing with the minor leauge football, somebody mentioned that he had talked about it a while back, no more info.
Avatard
10-18-2010, 04:51 PM
As sad as these types of injuries are, I am always fascinated that no one ever calls for the abolishment of football from school activities...yet when a kid gets hurt or killed racing a motorcycle (as happened twice this past year with two higher profile deaths that I am aware of), the outcry to eliminate youths from racing is huge, and nearly universal.
Particle Man
10-18-2010, 05:47 PM
As sad as these types of injuries are, I am always fascinated that no one ever calls for the abolishment of football from school activities...yet when a kid gets hurt or killed racing a motorcycle (as happened twice this past year with two higher profile deaths that I am aware of), the outcry to eliminate youths from racing is huge, and nearly universal.
But, but... Motorcycles are EVIL!
As sad as these types of injuries are, I am always fascinated that no one ever calls for the abolishment of football from school activities...yet when a kid gets hurt or killed racing a motorcycle (as happened twice this past year with two higher profile deaths that I am aware of), the outcry to eliminate youths from racing is huge, and nearly universal.
Its too popular
tommymac
10-18-2010, 05:55 PM
As sad as these types of injuries are, I am always fascinated that no one ever calls for the abolishment of football from school activities...yet when a kid gets hurt or killed racing a motorcycle (as happened twice this past year with two higher profile deaths that I am aware of), the outcry to eliminate youths from racing is huge, and nearly universal.
Interesting point (and thats comming from someone who played football for many years)
Some of the factors adding to this now are these kids are just bigger stronger and faster than what they were 10 or 20 yrs ago. Another problem is theyr not taught proper tackling anymore. Its even worse in th epros now guys try for the lights out highlight film hit instead of trying to tackle someone. I think at the college level football brings in too much money for the schools to consider giving it up.
Kaneman
10-18-2010, 06:59 PM
I think the end of Football is inevitable, at least in its current form anyway. As more and more stories of concussions keep flowing out, and how bad they are long-term, etc. etc. there is going to be more liability for public schools to continue running football programs. Which would spell doom for the NFL eventually IMO.
MMA will probably go first though, unless they find a way to eliminate post-ko punches...
tommymac
10-18-2010, 07:52 PM
I think the end of Football is inevitable, at least in its current form anyway. As more and more stories of concussions keep flowing out, and how bad they are long-term, etc. etc. there is going to be more liability for public schools to continue running football programs. Which would spell doom for the NFL eventually IMO.
MMA will probably go first though, unless they find a way to eliminate post-ko punches...
I think youre seeing more and more guys having long lasting effects from multiple concussions. One of the patriots linebackers who recently retired is already having problems. there was a good documentary on some of these guys bu tmore so how the NFL turned its back on these guys. I dont see football going away any time soon and now the league is ready to start suspending guys for some of these hits.
You think there a lot of outcry to end MMA again? I know Mcain and a few others kinda forced it underground a few years back but now it seems like the UFC is growing by leaps and bounds.
Man that is shitty :(
My guess is that tommy is correct and the media flap that is following this will ensure he has a full ride
Flexin
10-18-2010, 08:02 PM
I think the end of Football is inevitable, at least in its current form anyway. As more and more stories of concussions keep flowing out, and how bad they are long-term, etc. etc. there is going to be more liability for public schools to continue running football programs. Which would spell doom for the NFL eventually IMO.
MMA will probably go first though, unless they find a way to eliminate post-ko punches...
I can't see it happening at all (the football not MMA). I have seen some of the football fields at some of the US schools and it you wanted to get rid of football you would have to pry it from their cold dead hands.
James
Kaneman
10-19-2010, 11:25 AM
I can't see it happening at all (the football not MMA). I have seen some of the football fields at some of the US schools and it you wanted to get rid of football you would have to pry it from their cold dead hands.
James
Trust me man, I live in the center of it. The High Schools around here have near-NFL quality stadiums...even the ones out in the boonies.
I don't think it matters though. The unfortunate truth about head injuries is coming out, kids are definitely at risk playing contact football, and that's going to put the schools liable everytime a kid gets knocked out.
As far as MMA, yea, you've got a ton of guys that are obviously fucked up in the head. You've got vicious hits after the knockout where they're bouncing a guy's head off the mat while he's unconscious. The whole point of MMA is to give someone a concussion...
I love football and MMA, but I recognize the society we live in won't tolerate them for many more years.
tommymac
10-19-2010, 11:29 AM
Trust me man, I live in the center of it. The High Schools around here have near-NFL quality stadiums...even the ones out in the boonies.
I don't think it matters though. The unfortunate truth about head injuries is coming out, kids are definitely at risk playing contact football, and that's going to put the schools liable everytime a kid gets knocked out.
As far as MMA, yea, you've got a ton of guys that are obviously fucked up in the head. You've got vicious hits after the knockout where they're bouncing a guy's head off the mat while he's unconscious. The whole point of MMA is to give someone a concussion...
I love football and MMA, but I recognize the society we live in won't tolerate them for many more years.
With football they get the parents to sign waivers kind of releasing the school of liability. I know down your way some parents would disown their kids if they didnt want to play football.
Kaneman
10-19-2010, 11:37 AM
With football they get the parents to sign waivers kind of releasing the school of liability. I know down your way some parents would disown their kids if they didnt want to play football.
Those waivers are great for things that aren't thought to carry a high percentage for serious, life-long injury. But if the school officials can be shown to be aware of research that confirms many players will suffer brain damage every year, and they allow the football program to go on the same, they'll be liable for lawsuits to shut the program down.
All the pro-football parents, and yes there are a lot of them down here, will be drown out by the "think about the children" crowd. Protecting children is first and foremost in having cool shit outlawed, its just that we haven't really been aware how profound concussions can be until somewhat recently.
Many schools have already phased out P.E., Athletics doesn't seem like that much of a stretch, especially when the health factor is combined with continuing financial woes in Public Schools.
wildchild
10-19-2010, 12:52 PM
many years ago our high school lost a player on the field from a hit like that. he broke his neck and died on the field.
tommymac
10-19-2010, 01:15 PM
many years ago our high school lost a player on the field from a hit like that. he broke his neck and died on the field.
You always seem to hear about one or 2 a year. realsports had a good piece on a family from texas I believe. The son suffered a spinal cord injury playing football and formed a support group to help other playes and their families. They travel out to them to talk to them and kinda help them get going in the right direction.
Many schools have already phased out P.E., Athletics doesn't seem like that much of a stretch, especially when the health factor is combined with continuing financial woes in Public Schools.
The HS I went to would never get rid of the football program, it pays for itself, all the other sports, new textbooks every few years, and built an addition on the school a few years back.
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