Am I wrong for wanting to sign my daughter's report card?

[Captain Morgan]

My daughter's mother is refusing to let me sign my daughter's report card. She says she's already signed it. I told her that's fine, I want to sign it, too. She says no, and here's her reasoning:

As for signing, there is one line for a signature. You already signed the interim report and that was before I even got to see it.

I can't tell you how important it is for the mommy to get to sign the report cards. My mom always signed them. Dad always looked them over and made comments, but mom was the one that always signed them. Everyone I know always has them signed by Mom. It's a big deal. I don't know how to explain it. Why are you so adamant about signing something that you know means so much to me? Is it because you know I want to do it so badly and you are doing it to me mean or is it so you can show the school how involved you are and you think this is your way to prove it?

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So, am I wrong for wanting to sign the card, too? Or is she just nuts?

[dubbs]

I don't have a kid, so I can't speak from experience, but I don't really see the issue.

If there is only one line on the report card and she already signed it, so then why do you want to sign it too? It doesn't mean anything (as far as I can tell)

I kind of see her point, but her reasoning is a bit off.

[azoomm]

Why does it matter who signs it?

[Papa_Complex]

Fuck that noise. My father, as the "head of the house", always signed my report cards. I think that you're pushing a non issue, but hers is an emotional argument with no logic behind it. Now you SEEING the report card, prior to the signature being returned, is a different story.

[Captain Morgan]

Why does it matter who signs it?

I think it should be signed by both of us. The signature line is underneath a "parent's pledge" to meet certain goals, etc. Since her mom and I aren't together and my daughter spends time with each of us during the week, I think we should both sign it.

Fuck that noise. My father, as the "head of the house", always signed my report cards. I think that you're pushing a non issue, but hers is an emotional argument with no logic behind it. Now you SEEING the report card, prior to the signature being returned, is a different story.

She won't even let me see the original card. She scanned it and e-mailed it to me, but that's it. And EVERY argument she's had about my daughter has been an emotional one with absolutely zero logic being used. It's ridiculous.

[Mr Lefty]

ehh I don't understand why it's a big deal for either of you to sign it... just as long as you both SEE it. The whole point is that you know how your kid is progressing in school... not who's mark is going to be left on your kid's transcripts... :idk:

again, I'm no parent... but I'd say fuck it... give the bitch what she wants... again... as long as you SEE it. Pick your battles... :2cents:

[tached1000rr]

Of all battles to fight, this is one I'd skip, it's petty in my opinion. A power struggle with no gain at the end of it to even be worthwhile. A signature on a card does not show or prove how involved or committed to their child a parent is, not saying that is your intent.

[derf]

Of all battles to fight, this is one I'd skip, it's petty in my opinion. A power struggle with no gain at the end of it to even be worthwhile. A signature on a card does not show or prove how involved or committed to their child a parent is, not saying that is your intent.

Agreed, I believe the mother did her part and sent you a copy. This seems like one of those things that you should let go. If anything print out the scanned copy, show it to your daughter, tell her you are proud and drop that in the school bag

[Homeslice]

Everyone I know always has them signed by Mom. It's a big deal.

How fucking stupid :lmao:

[Apoc]

I think your both retarded. Her because she's female. You because your trying to reason with a woman (inherently retarded), instead of telling her who the fucking man is, and how shits gonna run with your daughter.

I was drinking with a friend not long ago, while he complained about his divorce. I was getting fed up, because frankly, I dont give a shit about his problems, i've generally got my own to deal with. Anyway, he was like 'If she wasnt such a bitch, I might still be married'... So, I said 'Ya, you and ten million other men, fuckhead, now stop crying, its making me fucking uncomfortable'. He didnt like that, but fuck him. We all knew she was a bitch before they were married, so there was no reason for him not to see it. If love is blind, people shouldnt fall in love. And instead of having more kids, this time with the woman you cheated on your baby mama with, you should have maybe opened your fucking eyes, grow the fuck up, and realize what life as a divorced dad is gonna be like before you make more fucking dumb decisions. I explained this to him in detail, even harsher then i've typed.

Sorry for the rant.. Divorced people are starting to make my fucking stomach turn. And the more of my friends that get married, the more divorced friends I eventually have.

[101lifts2]

I think your both retarded. Her because she's female. You because your trying to reason with a woman (inherently retarded), instead of telling her who the fucking man is, and how shits gonna run with your daughter.

I was drinking with a friend not long ago, while he complained about his divorce. I was getting fed up, because frankly, I dont give a shit about his problems, i've generally got my own to deal with. Anyway, he was like 'If she wasnt such a bitch, I might still be married'... So, I said 'Ya, you and ten million other men, fuckhead, now stop crying, its making me fucking uncomfortable'. He didnt like that, but fuck him. We all knew she was a bitch before they were married, so there was no reason for him not to see it. If love is blind, people shouldnt fall in love. And instead of having more kids, this time with the woman you cheated on your baby mama with, you should have maybe opened your fucking eyes, grow the fuck up, and realize what life as a divorced dad is gonna be like before you make more fucking dumb decisions. I explained this to him in detail, even harsher then i've typed.

Sorry for the rant.. Divorced people are starting to make my fucking stomach turn. And the more of my friends that get married, the more divorced friends I eventually have.

:lol: God Apoc ur great!

I was gonna say something similar, but this sums it up pretty well.

If you can't agree on something as stupid as this, then I can understand why you got divorced. lol

[Amber Lamps]

Okay, I thought that we've been over this already... Avery, you're a good man and an outstanding father but until you stop playing these stupid games with these bitches, you will never be happy. I guarantee it. The more important you make these petty issues, the more she will use them to hurt you. You can not "win" this type of fight. The report card comes to her, in her name(probably), to her house. Quite frankly, you're lucky that she even took the time to email it to you.

You have got to learn to pick your battles. Do you not get time with your daughter? Are you not a significant part of her life? Does your daughter know that her daddy loves her? Is your daughter healthy, happy, and being taken care of? THESE are the important things that you need to focus on. Leave the petty bull crap to her. STOP PLAYING HER GAMES!!! I'm sorry but you are sounding just like a bitch, probably exactly the way she sounds. The time you are WASTING arguing about the minute, insignificant, scraps of your daughter's life, is time that would have been better spent talking to your daughter, playing with her, etc. Sit down and decide RIGHT NOW if this is the way you want your life to be for the next 13 or so years. Fighting with this cunt over what color socks your daughter wears, if you pick her up at 4 vs 4:15 or what cereal she eats in the morning.

Trust me Avery, until you get a handle on this situation and find some way to smooth this relationship out. You will never be able to move on with your own life... I honestly applaud your commitment to your child but you need to be happy as well. Come on man, seriously take a step back and honestly and objectively evaluate this present "dilemma". Is it REALLY all that important who signs a kid in kindergarten's report card? Really? BTW I was wondering if it isn't possible to have the school send out a copy of her report card to each of you?

[Dave]

Yer both loons, remarry asap

[Apoc]

Okay, I thought that we've been over this already... Avery, you're a good man and an outstanding father but until you stop playing these stupid games with these bitches, you will never be happy. I guarantee it. The more important you make these petty issues, the more she will use them to hurt you. You can not "win" this type of fight. The report card comes to her, in her name(probably), to her house. Quite frankly, you're lucky that she even took the time to email it to you.

You have got to learn to pick your battles. Do you not get time with your daughter? Are you not a significant part of her life? Does your daughter know that her daddy loves her? Is your daughter healthy, happy, and being taken care of? THESE are the important things that you need to focus on. Leave the petty bull crap to her. STOP PLAYING HER GAMES!!! I'm sorry but you are sounding just like a bitch, probably exactly the way she sounds. The time you are WASTING arguing about the minute, insignificant, scraps of your daughter's life, is time that would have been better spent talking to your daughter, playing with her, etc. Sit down and decide RIGHT NOW if this is the way you want your life to be for the next 13 or so years. Fighting with this cunt over what color socks your daughter wears, if you pick her up at 4 vs 4:15 or what cereal she eats in the morning.

Trust me Avery, until you get a handle on this situation and find some way to smooth this relationship out. You will never be able to move on with your own life... I honestly applaud your commitment to your child but you need to be happy as well. Come on man, seriously take a step back and honestly and objectively evaluate this present "dilemma". Is it REALLY all that important who signs a kid in kindergarten's report card? Really? BTW I was wondering if it isn't possible to have the school send out a copy of her report card to each of you?



I have a solid plan for not getting into this situation. I've got no biological clock/need to have children, im not a pussy bitch, and I dont mind wearing a rubber.

Fucking gold. 8 bucks and an attitude change coulda got im a dozen condoms, to be used on any combination of women, without ever having to deal with the STD known as bastard children.

Kids are great. When your ready for them, and in a stable relationship (theres the tough one).

They are however, extremely great when they are someone elses, and just turned 18.

[Dave]

I have a solid plan for not getting into this situation. I've got no biological clock/need to have children, im not a pussy bitch, and I dont mind wearing a rubber.

Fucking gold. 8 bucks and an attitude change coulda got im a dozen condoms, to be used on any combination of women, without ever having to deal with the STD known as bastard children.

Kids are great. When your ready for them, and in a stable relationship (theres the tough one).

They are however, extremely great when they are someone elses, and just turned 18.

Best line ever on american dad last night, haily asked stan why her middle name was "dreamstealer" :lmao:

[Captain Morgan]

I think your both retarded. Her because she's female. You because your trying to reason with a woman (inherently retarded

So, what you're saying is that arguing with any woman is like arguing on the internet? :lol:

Okay, I thought that we've been over this already... Avery, you're a good man and an outstanding father but until you stop playing these stupid games with these bitches, you will never be happy. I guarantee it. The more important you make these petty issues, the more she will use them to hurt you. You can not "win" this type of fight. The report card comes to her, in her name(probably), to her house. Quite frankly, you're lucky that she even took the time to email it to you.

You have got to learn to pick your battles. Do you not get time with your daughter? Are you not a significant part of her life? Does your daughter know that her daddy loves her? Is your daughter healthy, happy, and being taken care of? THESE are the important things that you need to focus on. Leave the petty bull crap to her. STOP PLAYING HER GAMES!!! I'm sorry but you are sounding just like a bitch, probably exactly the way she sounds. The time you are WASTING arguing about the minute, insignificant, scraps of your daughter's life, is time that would have been better spent talking to your daughter, playing with her, etc. Sit down and decide RIGHT NOW if this is the way you want your life to be for the next 13 or so years. Fighting with this cunt over what color socks your daughter wears, if you pick her up at 4 vs 4:15 or what cereal she eats in the morning.

Trust me Avery, until you get a handle on this situation and find some way to smooth this relationship out. You will never be able to move on with your own life... I honestly applaud your commitment to your child but you need to be happy as well. Come on man, seriously take a step back and honestly and objectively evaluate this present "dilemma". Is it REALLY all that important who signs a kid in kindergarten's report card? Really? BTW I was wondering if it isn't possible to have the school send out a copy of her report card to each of you?

Sometimes, this is the type of shit I need to hear. I fought long and hard to even be able to have my daughter overnight just one night during the school week. I use to have 3 overnights every week, then this bitch said I should only have 1 as soon as school started (which was only on a weekend). The judge gave me 2 (one during the week, one on a weekend), but in the summer, it goes back up to 3. I try my damndest to show my daughter how much I care. I felt like it was important to sign the report card, but after reading this (as well as other replies) I can see why it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. Thanks.

I still have to go back to court to try and get joint legal custody, but I think that's about the only other battle I'm going to fight for awhile. I'm happy to finally be getting more time with my little girl than her mom wanted to allow, even if it's still a little less than what I previously had.

Over the past few months, I've come to realize exactly how much of a stupid bitch my ex is. It's ridiculous, but she could possibly be certifiably nuts. So I'll do my damndest to let this type of shit go from this point forward.

[Gas Man]

I echo what everybody said. Let it go, and just tell her you just want to show that you are "in the game" with your daughter. That you don't want to be on the side line or even appear that you're on the side line.

And I agree. Talk to your daughter. With your copy. Tell her how proud you are of her, but let her see the report card.

Maybe even print it out and frame it. With some "Great Job" signs in front of it in the frame. Put it on the wall. Tell her, that everytime she gets a good report card, you'll replace it on the wall. Something she can look at. Maybe put it by the front door. You'll see it on your way out the door, going to work and whatever. Remind you why you do what you do. How much she's worth all the hassle with her mom and having to work. Good for her, good for you. Make it a big deal with her.

[Amber Lamps]

I have a solid plan for not getting into this situation. I've got no biological clock/need to have children, im not a pussy bitch, and I dont mind wearing a rubber.

Fucking gold. 8 bucks and an attitude change coulda got im a dozen condoms, to be used on any combination of women, without ever having to deal with the STD known as bastard children.

Kids are great. When your ready for them, and in a stable relationship (theres the tough one).

They are however, extremely great when they are someone elses, and just turned 18.

Or 21.... This is exactly why I'm fixed. I watch people go through this bs every day. It has got to suck. No one will ever be completely happy. Not the mother, not the father and definitely not the child. You're all in some crazy limbo relationship... no one truly wins.

[Captain Morgan]

The report card comes to her, in her name(probably), to her house.

Just remembered I wanted to comment on this...

The report card actually gets sent home with the child. They came out Friday, which was my "weekend night" to have my daughter this weekend. Her mom left work early so she could get to school before I picked up my daughter, simply because she wanted to get the report card and didn't want me to see it first. And rather than take my daughter home and have me pick her up at her house, she left her in after school care for me to pick her up after I got off work. She just wanted the report card.

And to other people... I never married this woman. I saw she was nuts early on, but a little too late, and decided I didn't want to be with her. I love my daughter very much and want to be a huge part of her life, but just wish she had a different mother.

[Amber Lamps]

So, what you're saying is that arguing with any woman is like arguing on the internet? :lol:



Sometimes, this is the type of shit I need to hear. I fought long and hard to even be able to have my daughter overnight just one night during the school week. I use to have 3 overnights every week, then this bitch said I should only have 1 as soon as school started (which was only on a weekend). The judge gave me 2 (one during the week, one on a weekend), but in the summer, it goes back up to 3. I try my damndest to show my daughter how much I care. I felt like it was important to sign the report card, but after reading this (as well as other replies) I can see why it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things. Thanks.

I still have to go back to court to try and get joint legal custody, but I think that's about the only other battle I'm going to fight for awhile. I'm happy to finally be getting more time with my little girl than her mom wanted to allow, even if it's still a little less than what I previously had.

Over the past few months, I've come to realize exactly how much of a stupid bitch my ex is. It's ridiculous, but she could possibly be certifiably nuts. So I'll do my damndest to let this type of shit go from this point forward.

Please do it, bro... If you never believe anything I ever post again, believe this. All this bickering and fighting can only hurt your daughter. Every time that bitch tries to start something with you, picture your daughter's beautiful smiling face and shake it off. She wants to make you miserable and that little girl is her only weapon. Don't allow her to be used this way. Besides, refusing to engage with her and being happy with your own life is the greatest weapon you have. Seeing you happy, prosperous and at peace is the last thing she wants to happen. If you want to truly win and more importantly, if you want your daughter to win, you will avoid these petty conflicts, focus on making Avery happy the other 4 or 5 days of the week, and build a life for yourself that you can share with your daughter. Wish for more but not at the expense of what you already have.

[caveman]

As long as you see it thats all that matters. It was that same in my house mom signed after they both looked it over and talked to me about it. Same as in my house now with my little ones. I don't really care one way or the other who signs it, I know I am gonna be there to keep my thumb (Fatherly Influence - if you know what I mean) on the back of their head to keep the schoolwork a priority.

ehh I don't understand why it's a big deal for either of you to sign it... just as long as you both SEE it. The whole point is that you know how your kid is progressing in school... not who's mark is going to be left on your kid's transcripts... :idk:

again, I'm no parent... but I'd say fuck it... give the bitch what she wants... again... as long as you SEE it. Pick your battles... :2cents: COMPLETE TRUTH

I think your both retarded. Her because she's female. You because your trying to reason with a woman (inherently retarded), instead of telling her who the fucking man is, and how shits gonna run with your daughter.

I was drinking with a friend not long ago, while he complained about his divorce. I was getting fed up, because frankly, I dont give a shit about his problems, i've generally got my own to deal with. Anyway, he was like 'If she wasnt such a bitch, I might still be married'... So, I said 'Ya, you and ten million other men, fuckhead, now stop crying, its making me fucking uncomfortable'. He didnt like that, but fuck him. We all knew she was a bitch before they were married, so there was no reason for him not to see it. If love is blind, people shouldnt fall in love. And instead of having more kids, this time with the woman you cheated on your baby mama with, you should have maybe opened your fucking eyes, grow the fuck up, and realize what life as a divorced dad is gonna be like before you make more fucking dumb decisions. I explained this to him in detail, even harsher then i've typed.

Sorry for the rant.. Divorced people are starting to make my fucking stomach turn. And the more of my friends that get married, the more divorced friends I eventually have. Brutal but TRUTH

I echo what everybody said. Let it go, and just tell her you just want to show that you are "in the game" with your daughter. That you don't want to be on the side line or even appear that you're on the side line.

And I agree. Talk to your daughter. With your copy. Tell her how proud you are of her, but let her see the report card.

Maybe even print it out and frame it. With some "Great Job" signs in front of it in the frame. Put it on the wall. Tell her, that everytime she gets a good report card, you'll replace it on the wall. Something she can look at. Maybe put it by the front door. You'll see it on your way out the door, going to work and whatever. Remind you why you do what you do. How much she's worth all the hassle with her mom and having to work. Good for her, good for you. Make it a big deal with her. Gas, What the hell are you talking about? If you make every report card such a big deal then it just numbs the brain IMHO. I just make sure that the grades are up to the standards that the child is capable of attaining and either push for improvement or encourage the good performance with a nice little treat. Always make sure that the child understands that they're going to school is equivalent to your going to work everyday. My son's Kindergarten teacher has explained to her class to say, "school is my job."

Just let this one slide, bud. Women are evil. Just let this one slide, take the high road, be the better man, what ever you want to call it. It just isn't worth fighting over it will only get you stressed and fuming for a non-issue.

[tached1000rr]

Okay, I thought that we've been over this already... Avery, you're a good man and an outstanding father but until you stop playing these stupid games with these bitches, you will never be happy. I guarantee it. The more important you make these petty issues, the more she will use them to hurt you. You can not "win" this type of fight. The report card comes to her, in her name(probably), to her house. Quite frankly, you're lucky that she even took the time to email it to you.

You have got to learn to pick your battles. Do you not get time with your daughter? Are you not a significant part of her life? Does your daughter know that her daddy loves her? Is your daughter healthy, happy, and being taken care of? THESE are the important things that you need to focus on. Leave the petty bull crap to her. STOP PLAYING HER GAMES!!! I'm sorry but you are sounding just like a bitch, probably exactly the way she sounds. The time you are WASTING arguing about the minute, insignificant, scraps of your daughter's life, is time that would have been better spent talking to your daughter, playing with her, etc. Sit down and decide RIGHT NOW if this is the way you want your life to be for the next 13 or so years. Fighting with this cunt over what color socks your daughter wears, if you pick her up at 4 vs 4:15 or what cereal she eats in the morning.

Trust me Avery, until you get a handle on this situation and find some way to smooth this relationship out. You will never be able to move on with your own life... I honestly applaud your commitment to your child but you need to be happy as well. Come on man, seriously take a step back and honestly and objectively evaluate this present "dilemma". Is it REALLY all that important who signs a kid in kindergarten's report card? Really? BTW I was wondering if it isn't possible to have the school send out a copy of her report card to each of you?

true words spoken..... Real talk!!!!

[Amber Lamps]

Just remembered I wanted to comment on this...

The report card actually gets sent home with the child. They came out Friday, which was my "weekend night" to have my daughter this weekend. Her mom left work early so she could get to school before I picked up my daughter, simply because she wanted to get the report card and didn't want me to see it first. And rather than take my daughter home and have me pick her up at her house, she left her in after school care for me to pick her up after I got off work. She just wanted the report card.

And to other people... I never married this woman. I saw she was nuts early on, but a little too late, and decided I didn't want to be with her. I love my daughter very much and want to be a huge part of her life, but just wish she had a different mother.


ah I see... Well, she's a crazy bitch who is only out to hurt you. This only illustrates what I told you before. You need to quit handing her bricks to throw at you. You must have made it known to her how important this whole report card thing is to you to motivate her to go to all that trouble to beat you to it. Step out of the situation and realize how silly that is. Besides, doesn't she sign the original and send it back, leaving you both with copies? Stop fighting with her about it. I don't know her but without more motivation from you, she'll tire of this game and if you keep picking your daughter up on "report card day" you'll probably end up with the damn thing anyway. :lol: Crazy or not, it's hard to fight without an opponent.

[Apoc]

And to other people... I never married this woman. I saw she was nuts early on, but a little too late, and decided I didn't want to be with her. I love my daughter very much and want to be a huge part of her life, but just wish she had a different mother.

So in what world was it smart to cum inside her before you knew if she was crazy or not (she is, she's female)?

Seriously, im sorry if I sound harsh, but im seeing way too much of this, and too much complaining about it. Men knock up a woman that they dont know, or even already hate, and then wonder why they have such bad luck.

It seems pretty black and white to me, but I have no kids, and a pack of condoms.

[Amber Lamps]

So in what world was it smart to cum inside her before you knew if she was crazy or not (she is, she's female)?

Seriously, im sorry if I sound harsh, but im seeing way too much of this, and too much complaining about it. Men knock up a woman that they dont know, or even already hate, and then wonder why they have such bad luck.

It seems pretty black and white to me, but I have no kids, and a pack of condoms.

Ummm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdbjw27QPJQ



http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/360435/youre-pre-approved

[pauldun170]

Of all battles to fight, this is one I'd skip, it's petty in my opinion. A power struggle with no gain at the end of it to even be worthwhile. A signature on a card does not show or prove how involved or committed to their child a parent is, not saying that is your intent.

:rockwoot:

[Particle Man]

Apoc FTW


There are much bigger battles to fight. If she were trying to totally restrict your seeing the report card, that's one thing... Don't sweat the small stuff, you just give the other side ammunition.

[Captain Morgan]

ah I see... Well, she's a crazy bitch who is only out to hurt you. This only illustrates what I told you before. You need to quit handing her bricks to throw at you. You must have made it known to her how important this whole report card thing is to you to motivate her to go to all that trouble to beat you to it. Step out of the situation and realize how silly that is. Besides, doesn't she sign the original and send it back, leaving you both with copies? Stop fighting with her about it. I don't know her but without more motivation from you, she'll tire of this game and if you keep picking your daughter up on "report card day" you'll probably end up with the damn thing anyway. :lol: Crazy or not, it's hard to fight without an opponent.

Actually, I never said word one about the report card before-hand. I didn't even know about it until it got e-mailed to me. I replied to her e-mail and asked her to bring it with her when she picked up my daughter so I could sign it. She said she already signed it, I said that's fine, I'd just like to sign it too because of the "parental goals." She said I couldn't sign it, I asked why, and that's when I got the e-mail I posted and when I found out she went to school early to pick it up.

But yeah, I know you're right and I'm going to do my damndest to just say "whatever" to all of her bullshit.

[Avatard]

Concentrate on your relationship with the kid. Fuck her.

[Particle Man]

Fuck her.

Pretty sure that ship has sailed :lol

[Kaneman]

Move to a different state, start fresh, don't have anymore kids.

[Dave]

fake your own death, Move to a different state, start fresh, don't have anymore kids.

Fixed

[wildchild]

hope your kid doesn't have to watch mommy and daddy play bitch games with one another. your both parents start acting like it. it's really not about you, it should be about your kid. who cares who signs the report card. you got to see it, and you can stay involved with your kid's school work.
do you think the school will think your the "better" parent if it has your signature?

[azoomm]

hope your kid doesn't have to watch mommy and daddy play bitch games with one another. your both parents start acting like it. it's really not about you, it should be about your kid. who cares who signs the report card. you got to see it, and you can stay involved with your kid's school work.
do you think the school will think your the "better" parent if it has your signature?

best post of the thread. :dthumb:

[Trip]

Sign me up for the wrong battle to fight group. This just isn't important. Plus, you are letting her win by getting upset over something so small. This is exactly her goal by not letting you sign it. If you are apathetic to small shit like this, she will get pissed off and you win.

[TommyHotWheel]

Unless you have an agreement with whatever child services/friend of the court...you have no rights. I just got paperwork to completely damn my ex, because the F.O.C. just started to see my side after 7 years. Pick your battles.