Feds: All Motorcycle Riders Should Wear Helmets

[Avatard]

Federal safety officials want states to require all motorcycle riders to wear helmets, citing a surge in deaths since the late 1990s.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2031647,00.html

[OneSickPsycho]

Federal safety officials want states to require all motorcycle riders to wear helmets, citing a surge in deaths since the late 1990s.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2031647,00.html

As someone who is AGATT, I say FUCK THAT... The government shouldn't be policing personal safety, period.

[Particle Man]

As someone who is AGATT, I say FUCK THAT... The government shouldn't be policing personal safety, period.

This. I look out for myself. Some other dumb shit wants to take themselves out of the gene pool that's their business. Just don't ask me to pay for their medical expenses when they fuck themselves up. If you want to choose to not wear a helmet, you take your own chances.

[Avatard]

Adults can make this decision for themselves.

Fuck paternalism.

[wildchild]

you know it's going to come to that. no different then passing the seat belt law.

[Homeslice]

Just don't ask me to pay for their medical expenses when they fuck themselves up. ,

Even if the dude's insurance company has a rule saying the rider must wear a helmet, an emergency room can't deny care......so you will still end up paying for their care, just like with illegals.

[tommymac]

Even if the dude's insurance company has a rule saying the rider must wear a helmet, an emergency room can't deny care......so you will still end up paying for their care, just like with illegals.

And likley increased ins premiums for all those who die, they will take it out on the rest of us.

[OneSickPsycho]

And likley increased ins premiums for all those who die, they will take it out on the rest of us.

So you think if more people live and everyone wears helmets, insurance co's will stop raising rates? :lol:

[tommymac]

So you think if more people live and everyone wears helmets, insurance co's will stop raising rates? :lol:

of course not, but with a few more dying and them paying the premiums its a perfect excuse to do so and looks justified ;)

[Homeslice]

So you think if more people live and everyone wears helmets, insurance co's will stop raising rates? :lol:

:lol: When I turned 25 I had to call and remind them to lower my rates.....because the idiots claimed their software wasn't capable of adjusting it automatically. Right...

[101lifts2]

Gotta be insurance lobbying.

[the chi]

What OSP said. I'll wear mine regardless, but if I decide not to, that should be my decision.

And likley increased ins premiums for all those who die, they will take it out on the rest of us.

Exactly. Mine's gone up $10 a month in the last year. My last statement actually said something like "due to the higher rate of accidents on motorcycles of your make and model, rates have increased." Fuckers on gixxers. I've NEVER made a claim, yet I get to pay for everyone else's.

[tommymac]

What OSP said. I'll wear mine regardless, but if I decide not to, that should be my decision.



Exactly. Mine's gone up $10 a month in the last year. My last statement actually said something like "due to the higher rate of accidents on motorcycles of your make and model, rates have increased." Fuckers on gixxers. I've NEVER made a claim, yet I get to pay for everyone else's.

After the minon arrives and we buy karen a new vehicle I will prolly consolidate all the vehicles to one policy so we will see if that saves us some cash. The ins guys dont know about my gsxrs :lol:

[z06boy]

As someone who is AGATT, I say FUCK THAT... The government shouldn't be policing personal safety, period.

Yep I'm also AGATT but do hate Uncle Sam telling me I have to...even though it's too bad some don't have the common sense to wear a helmet.

you know it's going to come to that. no different then passing the seat belt law.

Yep you're probably right there.

Even if the dude's insurance company has a rule saying the rider must wear a helmet, an emergency room can't deny care......so you will still end up paying for their care, just like with illegals.

True unfortunately

And likley increased ins premiums for all those who die, they will take it out on the rest of us.

Yep :bash:

:lol: When I turned 25 I had to call and remind them to lower my rates.....because the idiots claimed their software wasn't capable of adjusting it automatically. Right...

Yeah funny when we get a ticket or have an accident 'the software' sure doesn't have a problem 'adjusting' it automatically.

Gotta be insurance lobbying.

Yep...of course on the flip side if I ran an insurance company I wouldn't want to pay out on someone because they didn't have enough sense to wear a helmet. :lol:


Exactly. Mine's gone up $10 a month in the last year. My last statement actually said something like "due to the higher rate of accidents on motorcycles of your make and model, rates have increased." Fuckers on gixxers. I've NEVER made a claim, yet I get to pay for everyone else's.

Those fvckin' gixxers !! :rofl: j/k

[Kaneman]

Most likely an initial federal step to begin phasing out motorcycle use and eventually outlaw them.

[tommymac]

I dont think police can generate much revenue off this one compared to seatblet tickets though.

[z06boy]

Most likely an initial federal step to begin phasing out motorcycle use and eventually outlaw them.

Talk about :hitfan:. Funny but I guess when it comes to the government nothing is out of the question.

[Kaneman]

Talk about :hitfan:. Funny but I guess when it comes to the government nothing is out of the question.

Motorcycles are dangerous, a lot of people get killed on them, it can't last.

[Avatard]

Most likely an initial federal step to begin phasing out motorcycle use and eventually outlaw them.

Why perhaps a more unified NO is needed from the community in regards to this.

This is the worst form of paternalism, and could mean a great loss of freedom in choice of transportation.

[Kaneman]

Why perhaps a more unified NO is needed from the community in regards to this.

This is the worst form of paternalism, and could mean a great loss of freedom in choice of transportation.

You can't stop it dude. Motorcycles won't last another 40 years on public streets in the U.S....

[wildchild]

Motorcycles are dangerous, a lot of people get killed on them, it can't last.

motorcycles don't kill people.....people kill people. LOL couldn't resist

[tommymac]

I blame rap music for all this, all those bikes in the ruff riders videos did us in :lol:

[z06boy]

Friggin' gixxers !! :lol:

[Homeslice]

You can't stop it dude. Motorcycles won't last another 40 years on public streets in the U.S....

If so, it will be due to lack of interest rather than government laws.

Seriously, humans are becoming more inner-focused and couch-bound. They would rather keep their eyes glued to their smartphones and video games than go out and experience reality. If a transportation device is invented that could take them where they want to go without any involvement, they'll gladly accept it.

[wildchild]

Friggin' gixxers !! :lol:

nah I think it's the yammies on this one. :lol you know those guys are always dumping their shit.

[z06boy]

nah I think it's the yammies on this one. :lol you know those guys are always dumping their shit.

What ? No way...Yammies are ridden by professionals only. :rofl:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/53/136488503_83164d4fe0.jpg

[Homeslice]

:lol good sunglass holder!

[Papa_Complex]

My standard answer applies: I support people's right to not wear a helmet, if the mood takes them. After all, I might need a kidney some day.

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:lmao:

[Smittie61984]

:lol: When I turned 25 I had to call and remind them to lower my rates.....because the idiots claimed their software wasn't capable of adjusting it automatically. Right...

I'm sure their equipment would adjust automatically if you got a DUI.

If someone doesn't wear a helmet and are more likely to get killed shouldn't insurance premiums go down? Insurance companies don't pay dead people do they?

But if you don't wear a helmet then whomever you cost money to (hospital, people you hit, etc) should be able to reposes whatever it is you own.

[wildchild]

and anyone caught eating a cheeseburger while more then 10 lbs overweight should automatically pay more for health insurance. i don't feel like paying for their heart attack that they know is coming.

i normally wear my helmet 98% of the time so it wouldn't bother me either way, I just hate the whole "they should pay more for ins then me" thing. everyone has risks that could cost money from a medical standpoint and everyone takes chances that increase their risk at some point.

[Particle Man]

and anyone caught eating a cheeseburger while more then 10 lbs overweight should automatically pay more for health insurance. i don't feel like paying for their heart attack that they know is coming.

Depending on how they got their health coverage and the degree of medical underwriting, they probably do :shrug:

I'll bet you like those insurance discounts for things like auto safety features and such - apply the same principle here.

[wildchild]

Depending on how they got their health coverage and the degree of medical underwriting, they probably do :shrug:

I'll bet you like those insurance discounts for things like auto safety features and such - apply the same principle here.


i see the justification of it, I just don't agree with it. I am basically anti insurance anyways though. LOL

I do agree with Fla ins that lets you go without a helmet if you choose to take medical coverage on your policy. yes you're paying more but entirely your choice.

[Avatard]

If your car has airbags, or anti-theft devices, you can get discounts.

Wear a helmet? Get a discount.

Don't wear one? Pay more.

Simple. Works just like insurance does already.