PDA

View Full Version : Meet Sal Giunta a real american hero


derf
11-16-2010, 09:53 PM
He won the medal of honor, which means he did some shit that normal people could not. In his case he ran face first into a hail of gunfire, killed a bunch of guys, after he got shot twice, rescued his dying buddy, saved a bunch of other people, all without regard for his own personal safety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50RFJfUzNsY


http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20101116/us_yblog_thelookout/meet-sal-guinta-the-first-living-medal-of-honor-winner-since-vietnam


Afghanistan's Korengal Valley, Army Staff Sgt. Salvatore Giunta repeatedly ran directly into fire from Taliban insurgents to save the lives of some of his fellow soldiers. In recognition of Giunta's bravery, President Obama on Tuesdays is presenting him with the country's highest military award, the Medal of Honor, making Giunta the first living soldier since the Vietnam War to receive the award given for acts of extreme bravery in the face of almost certain death.
Born and raised in Iowa to parents of Italian descent, the humble Giunta -- who was shot twice during the incident in the valley that day, though neither bullet pierced the body armor he was wearing -- is a reluctant hero. In an interview with Lara Logan that aired on CBS's "60 Minutes" over the weekend, Giunta expressed uneasiness with all the attention he's getting.
[Photos: Medal of Honor ceremony]
"I'm not at peace with that at all," Giunta said. "And coming and talking about it and people wanting to shake my hand because of it, it hurts me, because it's not what I want. And to be with so many people doing so much stuff and then to be singled out--and put forward. I mean, everyone did something."
When Logan asked him to evaluate himself as a soldier, Giunta said, "I'm average. I'm mediocre," adding, "This is only one moment. I don't think I did anything that anyone else I was with wouldn't have done. I was in a position to do it. That was what needed to be done. So that's what I did."
So who is Sal Giunta?
In a short film by war journalist Sebastian Junger called "The Sal Giunta Story," Giunta said that he was still in school and working as a "sandwich artist" at a Subway in Iowa when he joined the Army. Giunta, the son of a teacher and a medical equipment technician, enlisted in November 2003, spurred mainly by the memory of the 9/11 attacks. After attending basic training and infantry school at Fort Benning, Ga., Giunta was deployed to Afghanistan from March 2005 until March 2006 and again from May 2007 until July 2008.
"When I was first deployed, I was excited, I was ready," Giunta told Junger. "'Let's do this.' I got my gun. I jumped out of the planes. 'We're going to war. This is what I came here to do. Let's do this.'"
But as Giunta recounts his initial tour, his gung-ho enthusiasm to fight was soon tempered by the harsh realities of war. Assigned to the Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade, Giunta and his unit spent 15 months in the Korengal Valley, a hotly contested 6-mile-by-1-mile stretch of terrain near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that became known to American soldiers as the "Valley of Death."

In a 2008 New York Times story on the fighting in the valley, reporter Elizabeth Rubin starkly depicted the conflict, and particularly the opposition: "The Korengal fighters are fierce, know the terrain and watch the Americans' every move. On their hand-held radios, the old jihadis call the Americans 'monkeys,' infidels,' 'bastards' and 'the kids.' It's psychological warfare; they know the Americans monitor their radio chatter."
According to Sgt. Brett Perry, one of the soldiers interviewed in the "60 Minutes" profile of Giunta, it wasn't uncommon for American soldiers stationed in the valley to hold off going to the bathroom until nighttime. Otherwise, he said, they ran too great a risk of drawing enemy fire by moving around in the daylight. "That 15 months in the Korengal Valley, it was hell on Earth," Perry said.
Logan asked Giunta whether he ever woke up wondering "What the hell am I doing here?" That was his first thought every single morning, he told Logan: "We know what we're doing there, but: What the hell are we doing here?"
[Video: Obama awards Medal of Honor]
In another New York Times story about the valley's events, Giunta said of the local insurgents: "These people won't leave this valley. They have been here far before I could fathom an Afghanistan."
On the day his heroics earned him the Medal of Honor, Giunta and his unit were ambushed on a plateau some 8,000 feet up in the mountains on the last day of a six-day offensive to try to take control of the area. Cold and exhausted, they'd slept in ditches the five previous nights. Here's how the White House describes what happened next:
When an insurgent force ambush split Specialist Giunta's squad into two groups, he exposed himself to enemy fire to pull a comrade back to cover. Later, while engaging the enemy and attempting to link up with the rest of his squad, Specialist Giunta noticed two insurgents carrying away a fellow soldier. He immediately engaged the enemy, killing one and wounding the other, and provided medical aid to his wounded comrade while the rest of his squad caught up and provided security. His courage and leadership while under extreme enemy fire were integral to his platoon's ability defeat an enemy ambush and recover a fellow American paratrooper from enemy hands.
As uncomfortable as he appears to be in the spotlight, the 25-year-old Giunta had better get used to it: Now part of an elite fraternity, for the rest of his life he'll be seated in a prominent spot at presidential inaugurations and be honored countless times at military events. He is currently stationed in Italy with his wife, Jennifer, whom he married recently after dating for several years.

caveman
11-16-2010, 10:27 PM
:pat::dthumb:
/Salute

101lifts2
11-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Would he still be a "hero" if he wasn't shot?

Adeptus_Minor
11-16-2010, 10:42 PM
Would he still be a "hero" if he wasn't shot?

Only as much as any of the others over there serving in the place of those of us who either can't or chose not to.

G-Rex
11-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Would he still be a "hero" if he wasn't shot?

Of course he is. He did a very brave and courageous thing without regard for his own safety.

Being shot is not a condition of being considered a hero.

derf
11-16-2010, 11:00 PM
Would he still be a "hero" if he wasn't shot?

Yes, what is amazing is that he did it in spite of being shot

101lifts2
11-16-2010, 11:04 PM
Of course he is. He did a very brave and courageous thing without regard for his own safety.

Being shot is not a condition of being considered a hero.

I was referring to the medal.....would he of gotton a medal if he wasn't shot? It is obvious the guy is a hero....he put up his life so others could survive. There is no greater heroism IMO.

derf
11-16-2010, 11:31 PM
Maybe, maybe not, but really who knows.

t-homo
11-16-2010, 11:56 PM
I was referring to the medal.....would he of gotton a medal if he wasn't shot? It is obvious the guy is a hero....he put up his life so others could survive. There is no greater heroism IMO.

Sadly, probably not.

caveman
11-17-2010, 05:13 AM
Would he still be a "hero" if he wasn't shot?

yes, he would still have gotten the MoH. He helped stop a soldier from being captured and eventually tortured to death, while putting his own life in danger. There is no greater accolade than keeping a man from enemy hands. As well as being a major contributor to helping the unit fend off an attack.

wildchild
11-17-2010, 08:55 AM
yes he would still be a hero. neither bullet that hit him pierced his BA meaning realistically he wasn't shot. not injured anyway. the medal is about putting other's lives ahead of your own in a selfless display of courage to save another even though it could have cost your life.

z06boy
11-17-2010, 09:31 AM
yes he would still be a hero. neither bullet that hit him pierced his BA meaning realistically he wasn't shot. not injured anyway. the medal is about putting other's lives ahead of your own in a selfless display of courage to save another even though it could have cost your life.

yes, he would still have gotten the MoH. He helped stop a soldier from being captured and eventually tortured to death, while putting his own life in danger. There is no greater accolade than keeping a man from enemy hands. As well as being a major contributor to helping the unit fend off an attack.

:pat::dthumb:
/Salute

Agreed

goof2
11-17-2010, 09:58 AM
I was referring to the medal.....would he of gotton a medal if he wasn't shot? It is obvious the guy is a hero....he put up his life so others could survive. There is no greater heroism IMO.

I'm sure he would have still received a medal, just not the Medal of Honor. I'm actually pretty surprised Giunta was awarded the Medal of Honor even though he was shot. The majority of them awarded in the last 70 years, and all of them awarded since the mid 70s have been posthumously. It seemed like getting killed was becoming a prerequisite.

Either way this guy sure as hell is a hero, along with all the other people who do similar things without being recognized.

fatbuckRTO
11-17-2010, 04:13 PM
I'm sure he would have still received a medal, just not the Medal of Honor. I'm actually pretty surprised Giunta was awarded the Medal of Honor even though he was shot. The majority of them awarded in the last 70 years, and all of them awarded since the mid 70s have been posthumously. It seemed like getting killed was becoming a prerequisite.Agreed. I was very surprised when I read the summary of his actions. I was expecting to learn that he was wounded in some grievous manner. Run a search on Marine Corps captain Brian Chontosh, who nearly single-handedly cleared an entire Iraqi army trench position to save the lives of his entire platoon and was only awarded the Navy Cross.

There is another Marine being considered for the Medal of Honor who didn't technically save any lives, but charged into enemy fire and ended up recovering the bodies of 4 of his platoon mates. Heroic action, to be sure, but it didn't use to be the kind of thing they awarded the Medal of Honor for. Used to be, either you lost quite a bit of blood in the process or they were handing the medal to your next of kin.

Then again, used to be you actually had to show up to the war zone to rate a Bronze Star.

Porkchop
11-17-2010, 11:52 PM
There was a kid from my high school that was recently KIA. Awarded the Purple Heart for it, but not the MoH.

He was part of the a group that searched for roadside bombs. Story goes that he was the point man in his group. Two of his guys behind him were goofing around. He stopped walking because he thought he heard something, and the guys walked right past him. He grabbed both of them by the arms and yanked them backwards as they triggered a roadside bomb, and he took the whole blast. Its confimed he was killed instantly, and all of the other members survived. Had a pregnant wife at home... sad.

derf
11-18-2010, 08:14 AM
There is another Marine being considered for the Medal of Honor who didn't technically save any lives, but charged into enemy fire and ended up recovering the bodies of 4 of his platoon mates. Heroic action, to be sure, but it didn't use to be the kind of thing they awarded the Medal of Honor for. Used to be, either you lost quite a bit of blood in the process or they were handing the medal to your next of kin.


the MOH is for exceptional bravery and putting your life in danger with no regard for your own personal safety in combat only. In previous wars the mortality rate was much higher, they didnt have the modern bullet repellant stuff we have now. Giunta would have been shot in the chest, a bad injurt any way you put it. Modern combat and modern medical techniques have improved you chances of being seriously wounded way down. I mean really, I could stop the bleeding from a gunshot wound with some powder and a tampon now, then have you in a hopital within 20 minutes, where in the past you would have bled out with your buddies finger stuck in you for a few days.

Here is a link to an article from someone that thinks it has been feminized and lost some of its grandeur over time too. The coments really explain my thoughts better than I could

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2010/11/16/the-feminization-of-the-medal-of-honor/

tallywacker
11-18-2010, 09:53 AM
the MOH is for exceptional bravery and putting your life in danger with no regard for your own personal safety in combat only. In previous wars the mortality rate was much higher, they didnt have the modern bullet repellant stuff we have now. Giunta would have been shot in the chest, a bad injurt any way you put it. Modern combat and modern medical techniques have improved you chances of being seriously wounded way down. I mean really, I could stop the bleeding from a gunshot wound with some powder and a tampon now, then have you in a hopital within 20 minutes, where in the past you would have bled out with your buddies finger stuck in you for a few days.

Here is a link to an article from someone that thinks it has been feminized and lost some of its grandeur over time too. The coments really explain my thoughts better than I could

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2010/11/16/the-feminization-of-the-medal-of-honor/

The moral liberal LOL

shmike
11-19-2010, 03:09 PM
Saw Staff Sergeant Salvatore Giunta on The Colbert Report last night.

The guy's humility is unbelievable.