Netflix makes dumb decision, gets owned on Yahoo

[Homeslice]

http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/432-netflix-is-abandoning-dvds-customers-who-prefer-dvds

:zowned:

[Trip]

I wish they would go full on demand, if the network can't handle it, it means people need to get off their asses and upgrade the network. I hate not being able to watch new movies on demand because they are only available on DVD.

[Bluestreak]

I'll stop getting DVD's if the movies I want to see are available to watch instantly.

I'd much rather stream them down to my TV than wait 2 days for the movie to arrive.

Their watch instantly titles are growing but they need to start making NEW movies available instantly. If they can do that, I'll change my service to instant only.

[z06boy]

Oh yea...just remembered that I still have a Netflix DVD laying around that I need to watch and send back. :lol: They sent me two last time by accident and I watched one of them and sent it back but not the other.

[Captain Morgan]

I'll stop getting DVD's if the movies I want to see are available to watch instantly.

I'd much rather stream them down to my TV than wait 2 days for the movie to arrive.

Their watch instantly titles are growing but they need to start making NEW movies available instantly. If they can do that, I'll change my service to instant only.

Absolutely.

[Amber Lamps]

I gave up on disks a while ago.... I had one that sat here for almost a month before I watched it. I really like being able to watch anywhere. It's funny what the haters had to say about the Netflix blog but you all must understand that if they start getting "new movies" out for streaming they will probably have to get in line price-wise with VuDu, Blockbuster, etc which is currently between $4-6. I think that if they can convince members to pick up new movies from their Red Box locations for the interim, they could save a TON of money on shipping, damage, losses, etc, which could be re-invested in updating their instant library.

I'm curious, what does everyone thing is a fair monthly rate if they did start offering new releases on demand? I'm thinking about $20/month is all I'm willing to pay.:idk:

[Apoc]

Honestly, I like netflix as it allowed me to find some very good tv shows that I would have not even known about otherwise (Robin Hood BBC, The Tudors, tons of documentaries), but watching it, or DVD, is almost painful when your used to Bluray and HD Sattelite. So I have no problem with them not offering DVD, I just wish they would upgrade the image quality of their titles digitally, as even running on HD-High, its not true HDTV. And since I dont pay for bandwith (unlimited GB for 45$/month), I have no problem with larger file sizes.

I dont blame them at all for getting out of the DVD mail rental business, Digital really is the way to go for rentals nowadays. I love the Sony PSN rental service. Pick a movie, dl (or stream if you want, but you wanna make sure your 25-50% done when you start), and watch it anytime you want for the next 14 days. Same price as a movie rental at a brick and mortar store (5.99), and true HD quality.

[Apoc]

I gave up on disks a while ago.... I had one that sat here for almost a month before I watched it. I really like being able to watch anywhere. It's funny what the haters had to say about the Netflix blog but you all must understand that if they start getting "new movies" out for streaming they will probably have to get in line price-wise with VuDu, Blockbuster, etc which is currently between $4-6. I think that if they can convince members to pick up new movies from their Red Box locations for the interim, they could save a TON of money on shipping, damage, losses, etc, which could be re-invested in updating their instant library.

I'm curious, what does everyone thing is a fair monthly rate if they did start offering new releases on demand? I'm thinking about $20/month is all I'm willing to pay.:idk:

I dont think Netflix owns Redbox, do they?

[Amber Lamps]

Honestly, I like netflix as it allowed me to find some very good tv shows that I would have not even known about otherwise (Robin Hood BBC, The Tudors, tons of documentaries), but watching it, or DVD, is almost painful when your used to Bluray and HD Sattelite. So I have no problem with them not offering DVD, I just wish they would upgrade the image quality of their titles digitally, as even running on HD-High, its not true HDTV. And since I dont pay for bandwith (unlimited GB for 45$/month), I have no problem with larger file sizes.

I dont blame them at all for getting out of the DVD mail rental business, Digital really is the way to go for rentals nowadays. I love the Sony PSN rental service. Pick a movie, dl (or stream if you want, but you wanna make sure your 25-50% done when you start), and watch it anytime you want for the next 14 days. Same price as a movie rental at a brick and mortar store (5.99), and true HD quality.


I'm cheap bro... I'm not willing to go $6 per rental. Have you used VuDu? The picture quality is outstanding even with regular SD quality movies. If they would offer a subscription I would sign right up.

I dont think Netflix owns Redbox, do they?

Yep, I believe they do.

[Kerry_129]

Yeah like Apoc said, the image/sound quality is far better with Bluray or true HD signal. Even with the newer titles which seem to be compressed less & a good connection the streaming quality is not nearly as good, and it doesn't support Dolby DTS. If you're watching on a laptop or PS3, so what - but it's a big difference on a good home-theater setup.

[pauldun170]

Too think I enjoyed going to the movie rental store.
Sometimes you meet the nicest (or cutest) people roaming the isles.

[goof2]

Yep, I believe they do.

Nope, they are separate companies.

I don't really see how Netflix got "owned" in the article. They are speculating about where their business is going to go. Some of their customers may not like it, but if their On-Demand services improve they may. More than anything I'm guessing Netflix doesn't like what is likely to continue to happen with postage rates.

[Apoc]

I'm cheap bro... I'm not willing to go $6 per rental. Have you used VuDu? The picture quality is outstanding even with regular SD quality movies. If they would offer a subscription I would sign right up.



Yep, I believe they do.

Seriously, for as often as I sit down and watch rented movies, 6$ is nothing, as i'd be lucky to spend 20$/month anyway.

If its a movie I really, really like/want, ill buy on bluray. If not, ill see it on TMN within months.

[EpyonXero]

Honestly, I like netflix as it allowed me to find some very good tv shows that I would have not even known about otherwise (Robin Hood BBC, The Tudors, tons of documentaries), but watching it, or DVD, is almost painful when your used to Bluray and HD Sattelite. So I have no problem with them not offering DVD, I just wish they would upgrade the image quality of their titles digitally, as even running on HD-High, its not true HDTV. And since I dont pay for bandwith (unlimited GB for 45$/month), I have no problem with larger file sizes.

I dont blame them at all for getting out of the DVD mail rental business, Digital really is the way to go for rentals nowadays. I love the Sony PSN rental service. Pick a movie, dl (or stream if you want, but you wanna make sure your 25-50% done when you start), and watch it anytime you want for the next 14 days. Same price as a movie rental at a brick and mortar store (5.99), and true HD quality.

Yep. I like getting physical disks because I bought a BluRay player and an HD and right now the only way to get the most out of them is with BluRay discs, for me a big part of enjoying a movie is the visual art aspect which can be ruined when its been compressed for streaming. Plus, only about 10% of the movies I try to add to my queue are available instantly anyway.

[shmike]

I agree with most of you guys.

Do away with disks only once your streaming library includes ALL the stuff I want to see.

I prefer streaming but the poor quality and lack of quantity is annoying.

[RedRider2k2]

I love the Sony PSN rental service. Pick a movie, dl (or stream if you want, but you wanna make sure your 25-50% done when you start), and watch it anytime you want for the next 14 days. Same price as a movie rental at a brick and mortar store (5.99), and true HD quality.

Same here. Movies are often available to rent the same day they're released.

I canceled my Netflix subscription before the free trial was even up. I didnt like the movie selection they're offering right now. I can appreciate it being good for the TV series' and documentaries but I can never make time to watch them. So now, when I want to stream quality, I use PSN. When I just want to watch something, I use Torrents.

[Amber Lamps]

Nope, they are separate companies.

I don't really see how Netflix got "owned" in the article. They are speculating about where their business is going to go. Some of their customers may not like it, but if their On-Demand services improve they may. More than anything I'm guessing Netflix doesn't like what is likely to continue to happen with postage rates.

Ha you're right! I would have swore I had heard that Netflix owned it... My bad! Block Buster does own Blue Box, right?:idk:

[Amber Lamps]

Same here. Movies are often available to rent the same day they're released.

I canceled my Netflix subscription before the free trial was even up. I didnt like the movie selection they're offering right now. I can appreciate it being good for the TV series' and documentaries but I can never make time to watch them. So now, when I want to stream quality, I use PSN. When I just want to watch something, I use Torrents.

Did you just say that you don't have time for streaming but you do have time for torrents?

[Amber Lamps]

Yep. I like getting physical disks because I bought a BluRay player and an HD and right now the only way to get the most out of them is with BluRay discs, for me a big part of enjoying a movie is the visual art aspect which can be ruined when its been compressed for streaming. Plus, only about 10% of the movies I try to add to my queue are available instantly anyway.

Try VuDu on a PS3 or TV with it built in and see what you think...

http://www.vudu.com/

[Homeslice]

I don't really see how Netflix got "owned" in the article. They are speculating about where their business is going to go. Some of their customers may not like it, but if their On-Demand services improve they may. More than anything I'm guessing Netflix doesn't like what is likely to continue to happen with postage rates.

They got "owned" because this article was front page Yahoo, with a headline saying their customers are upset.

And more importantly because streaming quality isn't up there yet, (and likely never will be).

[Amber Lamps]

Seriously, for as often as I sit down and watch rented movies, 6$ is nothing, as i'd be lucky to spend 20$/month anyway.

If its a movie I really, really like/want, ill buy on bluray. If not, ill see it on TMN within months.

I guess but I'd imagine that if the quality was the same and price was less, you'd watch more. I know that since I've gotten rid of cable and went streaming only, I have watched a lot of stuff that I may have never watched if I had to pay for it.:wink:

[Amber Lamps]

They got "owned" because this article was front page Yahoo, with a headline saying their customers are upset.

And more importantly because streaming quality isn't up there yet, (and likely never will be).

Again, I sound like a VuDu rep but try them, they give you one for free when you sign up, the picture quality is quite good!

[LeeNetworX]

I'll stop getting DVD's if the movies I want to see are available to watch instantly.

I'd much rather stream them down to my TV than wait 2 days for the movie to arrive.

Their watch instantly titles are growing but they need to start making NEW movies available instantly. If they can do that, I'll change my service to instant only.

Absolutely. If they actually had a half-way decent streaming library I would have no complaint with them doing away with DVDs. But as of today, their streaming library is a steaming pile of shit.

[Rangerscott]

Thing i worry about only streaming is useing a ton of bandwith and having your inernet company shutting down your connection.

What resolution are the movies when you download/stream? No point to use the service if it looks like shit on my 1080p tv.

[goof2]

They got "owned" because this article was front page Yahoo, with a headline saying their customers are upset.

And more importantly because streaming quality isn't up there yet, (and likely never will be).

I doubt Netflix cares, especially as their membership rolls continue to grow. Where Netflix actually did get owned was with the most recent postage increase. Their estimated annual cost for that is around $50 million, or somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of their annual profit.

[Dave]

They got "owned" because this article was front page Yahoo, with a headline saying their customers are upset.

And more importantly because streaming quality isn't up there yet, (and likely never will be).

Soo in other words a bunch of folks crying about an obsolete format on an obsolete website? Seriously wtf uses yahoo anymore? :lol:

[z06boy]

Yep. I like getting physical disks because I bought a BluRay player and an HD and right now the only way to get the most out of them is with BluRay discs, for me a big part of enjoying a movie is the visual art aspect which can be ruined when its been compressed for streaming. Plus, only about 10% of the movies I try to add to my queue are available instantly anyway.

I agree with most of you guys.

Do away with disks only once your streaming library includes ALL the stuff I want to see.

I prefer streaming but the poor quality and lack of quantity is annoying.


Agree and agree

[Trip]

Soo in other words a bunch of folks crying about an obsolete format on an obsolete website? Seriously wtf uses yahoo anymore? :lol:

I check the headlines on yahoo a lot from work. They always have some interesting/funny stories that are usually unblocked by gov't servers.

[RedRider2k2]

Did you just say that you don't have time for streaming but you do have time for torrents?

Yep. When I say I dont have time for streaming, I mean I dont have much time for TV in general. Torrents work fine for me.

For example, My GF and I like to watch Dexter. We burned through the first 4 seasons pretty quick. She couldnt wait for the 5th season to start but since it has we may have watched 1 or 2 episodes. (It may even be done by now, I dont even know.) So, 5 minutes on Vuze and I've got 2 or 3 episodes lined up in advance, ready to watch and free.

[OneSickPsycho]

Torrents... I can download dozens of movies at a time when they come out on DVD, quality is great, I can watch them at my leisure, and it's free. I don't know why anyone with a broadband connection would ever pay for Netflix.

[Dave]

Torrents... I can download dozens of movies at a time when they come out on DVD, quality is great, I can watch them at my leisure, and it's free. I don't know why anyone with a broadband connection would ever pay for Netflix.

Storage my man. If I can stream it great, if not I let my fingers wander over to btjunkie and snag what I want. Worked great the other day when I decided I wanted to see mr baseball and it was dvd only.

[Bluestreak]

I actually don't have much of a problem with the video quality when streaming. There have only been a hand full of movies that I've had to stop because I couldn't stand how crappy the picture/sound was. I guess it's entirely possible that I'm not too picky about the quality either. :shrug:

I watched season's 1-5 of Weeds instantly down to my 1080i TV and all 5 seasons were in HD. Sure, the quality wasn't as good as an NFL football game but it was plenty good enough for me. Unfortunately, not all of the instant selections are in HD either.

I upgraded my DSL from 1.5MB to 3.0MB and I noticed the quality of the movies from Netflix going up. The quality I get at home on 3MB is the same as I get at the office on 35MB.

Overall, I'm very happy with the service. If the kids are cranky, I can pull up netflix on the TV and find a kids movie to immediately occupy them.

[Apoc]

Yep. When I say I dont have time for streaming, I mean I dont have much time for TV in general. Torrents work fine for me.

For example, My GF and I like to watch Dexter. We burned through the first 4 seasons pretty quick. She couldnt wait for the 5th season to start but since it has we may have watched 1 or 2 episodes. (It may even be done by now, I dont even know.) So, 5 minutes on Vuze and I've got 2 or 3 episodes lined up in advance, ready to watch and free.

Season 5 of Dexter was done weeks ago. I PVR'd them and watched when I had time, as its about my favourite series on TV.

Truth is, if im gonna be in front of a TV, im probably gonna be playing games. I always have, and probably always will prefer it to TV.

[Apoc]

Torrents... I can download dozens of movies at a time when they come out on DVD, quality is great, I can watch them at my leisure, and it's free. I don't know why anyone with a broadband connection would ever pay for Netflix.

Cuz its 8$ a month, and gives me plenty of shows and documentaries I enjoy on demand, without the hassle of storing them. I can watch them as many times as i'd like, and its also perfectly legal.

[Bluestreak]

Cuz its 8$ a month, and gives me plenty of shows and documentaries I enjoy on demand, without the hassle of storing them. I can watch them as many times as i'd like, and its also perfectly legal.

This!

[Trip]

Cuz its 8$ a month, and gives me plenty of shows and documentaries I enjoy on demand, without the hassle of storing them. I can watch them as many times as i'd like, and its also perfectly legal.

It's hard to find some of these older ones they have on netflix on torrents as well. It's much easier to use netflix for a lot of this stuff and it's worth the price.

[Apoc]

It's hard to find some of these older ones they have on netflix on torrents as well. It's much easier to use netflix for a lot of this stuff and it's worth the price.


Also true.

[OneSickPsycho]

Storage my man. If I can stream it great, if not I let my fingers wander over to btjunkie and snag what I want. Worked great the other day when I decided I wanted to see mr baseball and it was dvd only.

I have over 1,000 movies, plenty in HD on a 1.5TB HDD that I paid $90 for...

Cuz its 8$ a month, and gives me plenty of shows and documentaries I enjoy on demand, without the hassle of storing them. I can watch them as many times as i'd like, and its also perfectly legal.

It's hard to find some of these older ones they have on netflix on torrents as well. It's much easier to use netflix for a lot of this stuff and it's worth the price.


I have over 1,000 movies, plenty in HD, on a 1.5TB HDD that I paid $90 for... with room to go... One search, a few clicks, and I have any movie I want... There's only ONE movie I haven't been able to find on torrents (Best in Show)... I download 10-20 at a time and in a couple of days (max) they are all there... I dunno, you guys still haven't sold me.

[Amber Lamps]

I have over 1,000 movies, plenty in HD on a 1.5TB HDD that I paid $90 for...






I have over 1,000 movies, plenty in HD, on a 1.5TB HDD that I paid $90 for... with room to go... One search, a few clicks, and I have any movie I want... There's only ONE movie I haven't been able to find on torrents (Best in Show)... I download 10-20 at a time and in a couple of days (max) they are all there... I dunno, you guys still haven't sold me.

I hear what you're saying and I guess the "sell" for me is the "instant" part of streaming. When I want to watch something, now is the time. I don't really have the mindset to plan my TV viewing two days ahead. I also really only watch a program once or twice so I don't see a need to store anything regardless of the price. It's the same reason that I quit buying movies in general.

The question I have is why people are willing to pay upwards of $100 for cable/satellite when there are so many streaming options? Almost everything I want to watch can be found on the net. Hulu, Netflix, Boxee, VuDu, the Networks, etc it's all there. There are tons of devices for streaming, including the TVs themselves. Most are WiFi and I contend that the picture quality is at least as good as regular cable and getting better everyday imho.

[Trip]

I have over 1,000 movies, plenty in HD, on a 1.5TB HDD that I paid $90 for... with room to go... One search, a few clicks, and I have any movie I want... There's only ONE movie I haven't been able to find on torrents (Best in Show)... I download 10-20 at a time and in a couple of days (max) they are all there... I dunno, you guys still haven't sold me.


We were not talking about movies. Movies are stupid simple to find for the most part. We were talking about TV shows and Netflix has a very wide range of new and old shows.

1.5 TB ain't shit anymore, especially with the size of blu ray movies. Let me know when you get over 10.

[Bluestreak]

1.5 TB ain't shit anymore, especially with the size of blu
ray movies. Let me know when you get over 10.

EMC 16TB SAN at the office FTW!!!

[Amber Lamps]

We were not talking about movies. Movies are stupid simple to find for the most part. We were talking about TV shows and Netflix has a very wide range of new and old shows.

1.5 TB ain't shit anymore, especially with the size of blu ray movies. Let me know when you get over 10.

Not to mention the possibility of them crashing.....:idk:

[Trip]

EMC 16TB SAN at the office FTW!!!

Nice, I uped my total storage 2 gigs with the mac and another shared drive. Trying get my wives photo storage added to my media server to get another gig. Need to get a few more drives so I can raid protect everything.

[Homeslice]

The question I have is why people are willing to pay upwards of $100 for cable/satellite when there are so many streaming options? Almost everything I want to watch can be found on the net. Hulu, Netflix, Boxee, VuDu, the Networks, etc it's all there. There are tons of devices for streaming, including the TVs themselves. Most are WiFi and I contend that the picture quality is at least as good as regular cable and getting better everyday imho.

Odds are most people are professional channel surfers who just want to sit there switching channels, and don't even know what torrent is. They might have used Hulu before, but that's about it, and besides that's only one small collection of content. So these people figure "fuck it" and decide not to spend time researching all the other sites and figuring out how they work.

[EpyonXero]

Thing i worry about only streaming is useing a ton of bandwith and having your inernet company shutting down your connection.

What resolution are the movies when you download/stream? No point to use the service if it looks like shit on my 1080p tv.

Thats the other side of our streaming future that nobody talks about. Netflix's HD video is streamed at up to 3800kbps whuch is a little under .5 MB/s so a two hour movie will be 3300 MB of data. I have Comcast cable internet at home which has a monthly "unlimited" cap of 250 GB total. Which means upload and download combined. The cable companies do not want you to trade premium TV channels for generic data so I wont be suprised if they start imposing harder caps on data in an attempt to limit use of streaming TV and movies.

[Trip]

Thats the other side of our streaming future that nobody talks about. Netflix's HD video is streamed at up to 3800kbps whuch is a little under .5 MB/s so a two hour movie will be 3300 MB of data. I have Comcast cable internet at home which has a monthly "unlimited" cap of 250 GB total. Which means upload and download combined. The cable companies do not want you to trade premium TV channels for generic data so I wont be suprised if they start imposing harder caps on data in an attempt to limit use of streaming TV and movies.

Eventually as FiOS starts gaining more traction, cable companies won't be able to compete. Everything is moving towards streaming service. TV will change to adapt to an on demand philosphy.

[goof2]

Eventually as FiOS starts gaining more traction, cable companies won't be able to compete. Everything is moving towards streaming service. TV will change to adapt to an on demand philosphy.

The cable down here has a bunch of on demand services.

[Trip]

The cable down here has a bunch of on demand services.

Yeah, but it's not what I am talking about. It's like that everywhere. TV will have to adjust completely where it's not a set schedule. They will have to be flexible to an on demand philosphy, not a set schedule. DVR will become irrelevant because everything will be streaming as you want to watch it.

The only thing that will be set schedule will be live events.

[goof2]

Yeah, but it's not what I am talking about. It's like that everywhere. TV will have to adjust completely where it's not a set schedule. They will have to be flexible to an on demand philosphy, not a set schedule. DVR will become irrelevant because everything will be streaming as you want to watch it.

The only thing that will be set schedule will be live events.

Let me rephrase, having used both cable and FIOS I don't see much difference between the two for on demand services. That being the case I didn't understand why you said cable wouldn't be able to compete with FIOS.

[EpyonXero]

Verizon is no longer adding FiOS markets so the only thing that can compete with cable is wireless data which I expect to have even stricter bandwidth limitations than cable does. I think our only hope is Google.

[Trip]

Let me rephrase, having used both cable and FIOS I don't see much difference between the two for on demand services. That being the case I didn't understand why you said cable wouldn't be able to compete with FIOS.

I am not talking TV services, I am talking internet. Chattanooga is running at 1 Gb/s FiOS. Cable won't be able to touch. LTE is capable of 100 Mb/s right now if it is rolled out. You won't be dependent on a TV provider, you will be dependent on an internet provider who will deliver what content you want, when you want it. You are thinking in today's terms, this is future. What Google attempted to rollout with GoogleTV, but the networks said fuck you to Google.

Verizon is no longer adding FiOS markets so the only thing that can compete with cable is wireless data which I expect to have even stricter bandwidth limitations than cable does. I think our only hope is Google.

Verizon is not the only provider of FiOS. AT&T is capable. Your local utility board is capable. Considering one of the fastest internet providers in the world is in my state and is being supplied to the public by the local utility board through FiOS.

[Captain Morgan]

Odds are most people are professional channel surfers who just want to sit there switching channels, and don't even know what torrent is. They might have used Hulu before, but that's about it, and besides that's only one small collection of content. So these people figure "fuck it" and decide not to spend time researching all the other sites and figuring out how they work.

I'm certainly not a professional channel surfer, but I have no fucking clue what a torrent is, or even how to locate a place to download movies or tv shows. If it's file sharing, I'd be worried about picking up a virus and crashing my comp.

[shmike]

I'm certainly not a professional channel surfer, but I have no fucking clue what a torrent is, or even how to locate a place to download movies or tv shows. If it's file sharing, I'd be worried about picking up a virus and crashing my comp.

I'm in a similar boat.

I have somewhat of a clue what a torrent is but last time I tried it I DID pick up a virus and it DID crash my computer.

Netflix and cable for me. :lol:

[Homeslice]

No shame in that at all. Like I said with regard to Apple vs. Android, some people are fine with what's given to them, and aren't the type of person who is going to keep up on the latest re-roots and mods.

[goof2]

I am not talking TV services, I am talking internet. Chattanooga is running at 1 Gb/s FiOS. Cable won't be able to touch. LTE is capable of 100 Mb/s right now if it is rolled out. You won't be dependent on a TV provider, you will be dependent on an internet provider who will deliver what content you want, when you want it. You are thinking in today's terms, this is future. What Google attempted to rollout with GoogleTV, but the networks said fuck you to Google.



Verizon is not the only provider of FiOS. AT&T is capable. Your local utility board is capable. Considering one of the fastest internet providers in the world is in my state and is being supplied to the public by the local utility board through FiOS.

OK, I see what you are saying now.

[Amber Lamps]

I'm in a similar boat.

I have somewhat of a clue what a torrent is but last time I tried it I DID pick up a virus and it DID crash my computer.

Netflix and cable for me. :lol:

You hit my "why I avoid torrents" fear, right on the head.:lol: I am seriously suspicious of a person's motives for taking all that time to record a movie, convert it and post it on a server...why would you do that?:idk: I'd hesitate to do that for a casual acquaintance, much less a complete group of strangers. I know that I am safe with the major players, Hulu, Netflix, etc and that is important as well. Besides, TV/movies is just a time filler for me, it has very little importance as a whole.

[Amber Lamps]

OK, I see what you are saying now.

I totally agree with him, I think that eventually, television will be completely replaced by streaming content and companies will be forced to rely on product placement for advertising. Basically, it will all be reduced to the internet provider bringing us our entertainment, information, communication, etc...

[EpyonXero]

You hit my "why I avoid torrents" fear, right on the head.:lol: I am seriously suspicious of a person's motives for taking all that time to record a movie, convert it and post it on a server...why would you do that?:idk: I'd hesitate to do that for a casual acquaintance, much less a complete group of strangers. I know that I am safe with the major players, Hulu, Netflix, etc and that is important as well. Besides, TV/movies is just a time filler for me, it has very little importance as a whole.

I learned in the old FTP warez days that some people like to share things and theres some satisfaction in being the guy who can get the new stuff out there first.

[Trip]

I'm in a similar boat.

I have somewhat of a clue what a torrent is but last time I tried it I DID pick up a virus and it DID crash my computer.

Netflix and cable for me. :lol:

That's why you don't use just any torrent service. Something invitation only like Demonoid and then you read the comments to verify that it is a valid torrent. I don't use shit like btjunkie, that's just asking to get a virus or get busted.

[Dave]

That's why you don't use just any torrent service. Something invitation only like Demonoid and then you read the comments to verify that it is a valid torrent. I don't use shit like btjunkie, that's just asking to get a virus or get busted.

eh just gotta be not stupid and see what the trackers/comments are. that and move whatever you take to a non shared location :lol

[Amber Lamps]

eh just gotta be not stupid and see what the trackers/comments are. that and move whatever you take to a non shared location :lol

You're probably right but the only torrent I've watched in years are the races you send me!:lol: Besides, I've gotten some craptastic torrents in the past that I've waited hours for.:lol:

[Dave]

You're probably right but the only torrent I've watched in years are the races you send me!:lol: Besides, I've gotten some craptastic torrents in the past that I've waited hours for.:lol:

eh i also keep a five year old minimum rule. the infected shit tends to be whats new and popular, not the 60s italian space vampire movie :lol. which really works out cause i dig the old campy stuff and think mike bay needs to be set on fire with his own pyrotechnics

[Amber Lamps]

eh i also keep a five year old minimum rule. the infected shit tends to be whats new and popular, not the 60s italian space vampire movie :lol

See but then why bother? Netflix probably has that crap! I watched a horrible 70s soft core Italian movie the other day....Hell Prison or something like that. God awful but funny in it's stupidity and constant excuses for the nudity.:lol:

[Dave]

See but then why bother? Netflix probably has that crap! I watched a horrible 70s soft core Italian movie the other day....Hell Prison or something like that. God awful but funny in it's stupidity and constant excuses for the nudity.:lol:

the hell they do. ive had a partial memory of some terrible b movie scifi i saw as a kid in the local movies unlimited 20+ years ago. all i remembered was an ice planet and the main character had a hot android sidekick. on a whim i decided to try wikipedia under the gynoid article and found it: spacehunter: adventures in the forbidden zone :lol im cueing it up now.

fwiw spacehunter is on netflix, albiet dvd only. but theres a few i can think of that arent. hell, i remember one i cant even find on torrent.

[Trip]

See but then why bother? Netflix probably has that crap! I watched a horrible 70s soft core Italian movie the other day....Hell Prison or something like that. God awful but funny in it's stupidity and constant excuses for the nudity.:lol:

That's why you use demonoid, the infected shit lasts a whole 2 mins there and then it gets popped by a member. I have yet to get anything bad from demonoid that I made sure was fine in the comments.

[OneSickPsycho]

That's why you use demonoid, the infected shit lasts a whole 2 mins there and then it gets popped by a member. I have yet to get anything bad from demonoid that I made sure was fine in the comments.

I've never gotten anything real bad through torrents, ever... period. Sure, sometimes ISO Hunt likes to have a malware popup and click the wrong thing on Piratebay and shit like that comes up too, but I've never had anything that my free versions of anti-virus didn't catch and fix. Been downloading torrents for about 7 years, no issues... not a single one. I download the newest, latest, greatest the day it comes out. If you pay attention to the comments and download from familiar users, no issues.... it's common sense stuff.

And you wanna avoid getting busted? Don't share your ENTIRE library of shit all the time... Hell, when something finishes, I remove it from the list as soon as I see it's done... or when a group of files I'm downloading finishes.

[Trip]

And you wanna avoid getting busted? Don't share your ENTIRE library of shit all the time... Hell, when something finishes, I remove it from the list as soon as I see it's done... or when a group of files I'm downloading finishes.

That won't always work. The guy sitting next to me at work got a C&D letter for downloading an 4 year old movie. He never shared. He refuses to use torrents for movies or music now.

[Homeslice]

That won't always work. The guy sitting next to me at work got a C&D letter for downloading an 4 year old movie. He never shared. He refuses to use torrents for movies or music now.

How was he identified?

[Captain Morgan]

Can any of you torrent users get me Sons of Anarchy season 3, episodes 1 through 5? I can view newer ones online, but want to watch the earlier episodes first.

[OneSickPsycho]

Can any of you torrent users get me Sons of Anarchy season 3, episodes 1 through 5? I can view newer ones online, but want to watch the earlier episodes first.

I downloaded all of them through the torrents the day after they were shown...

Piratebay.org is your friend.

[Trip]

How was he identified?

Beats me, he showed me the C&D letter and it appears they got all the info on him from his Cable ISP. They had date and time of his download, the location of the torrent, and all sorts of shit. Funny part is it was a shitty movie no one would ever really want to watch or buy. It was like one of those crappy walmart movies they sell in the 2 for $5 bin.

[defector]

Beats me, he showed me the C&D letter and it appears they got all the info on him from his Cable ISP. They had date and time of his download, the location of the torrent, and all sorts of shit. Funny part is it was a shitty movie no one would ever really want to watch or buy. It was like one of those crappy walmart movies they sell in the 2 for $5 bin.

I got one of those when Machete first came out. The studio (Fox?) sent it to my cable provider, and they sent it to me. Worst part was I had to pay to see that pile of shit anyway - my wife wanted to go see it, and didn't want to watch it on the TV. :zowned:

[Amber Lamps]

I got one for Transformers...stupid letter from the studio, whatever.

[Amorok]

I got one for Beaowulf when it came out, they shut off my service and I had to call and beg to get it back. Nothing since then.

[Amber Lamps]

I got one for Beaowulf when it came out, they shut off my service and I had to call and beg to get it back. Nothing since then.

Ha I got a letter yesterday from Suddenlink asking me to check on my internet usage because I've suddenly went from 48G/month to 111G/month... You'd think they'd notice that I cancelled my cable...:lol:

[EpyonXero]

Man, where are you guys DLing from?

[Tmall]

www.kickasstorrents.com is my new favourite. They verify their torrents.

[CasterTroy]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/state_web_winter/netflix.jpg

[Trip]

Got a C&D last night... LOL

Demonoid is not safe.

[Captain Morgan]

Got a C&D last night... LOL

Demonoid is not safe.

ruh-roh. I'll likely get one soon. Only DL'd a couple things, though. Don't really desire to DL anything else.

What did your C&D refer to? Anything specific, or simply C&D on everything?

[Trip]

Specific movie from Sony Columbia. They list the torrent and the time I downloaded it.

[Apoc]

Specific movie from Sony Columbia. They list the torrent and the time I downloaded it.

And this is why I prefer Netflix.

[Amber Lamps]

And this is why I prefer Netflix.

me too!

[Trip]

Won't stop me, there are other ways of downloading without using torrents. No P2P trace.

[Captain Morgan]

Specific movie from Sony Columbia. They list the torrent and the time I downloaded it.

How many days/weeks after downloading did you get the letter?

[Particle Man]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/state_web_winter/netflix.jpg
:lmao: awesome