View Full Version : 'Domestic Terror': Bomb Found in Backpack Ahead of Spokane MLK Parade
pauldun170
01-19-2011, 11:45 AM
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/19/domestic-terror-bomb-found-in-backpack-ahead-of-spokane-mlk-parade/
Homeslice
01-19-2011, 01:19 PM
lol, everything has to be called terrorism
udman
01-19-2011, 01:41 PM
I blame Sarah Palin...
OneSickPsycho
01-19-2011, 01:43 PM
lol, everything has to be called terrorism
I'm sure the guy who came into the bathroom after me would agree...
goof2
01-19-2011, 03:19 PM
lol, everything has to be called terrorism
What would you call a bomb left at a parade?
What would you call a bomb left at a parade?
Suprise
pauldun170
01-19-2011, 04:08 PM
Suprise
:lol
Homeslice
01-19-2011, 05:35 PM
What would you call a bomb left at a parade?
Another excuse used by the gov't to restrict our liberties?
goof2
01-19-2011, 07:43 PM
Another excuse used by the gov't to restrict our liberties?
What the government does about it is irrelevant to defining the act itself. If this isn't an attempted act of terrorism then what would one look like?
askmrjesus
01-19-2011, 10:45 PM
Another excuse used by the gov't to restrict our liberties?
Yes.
What ever happened to life, liberty, and the pursuit of blowing up black people?
JC
Yes.
What ever happened to life, liberty, and the pursuit of blowing up black people?
JC
biafra?
Homeslice
01-20-2011, 12:27 AM
What the government does about it is irrelevant to defining the act itself. If this isn't an attempted act of terrorism then what would one look like?
Would it have been called terrorism 20-30 years ago?
Likely it would have been called "a dumbass racist with a bomb in his pack"
goof2
01-20-2011, 09:40 AM
Would it have been called terrorism 20-30 years ago?
Likely it would have been called "a dumbass racist with a bomb in his pack"
The IRA was doing exactly this 20-30 years ago and yes, it was called terrorism then too.
The IRA was doing exactly this 20-30 years ago and yes, it was called terrorism then too.
It was also called patriotism. Pov is important
goof2
01-20-2011, 10:04 AM
It was also called patriotism. Pov is important
I don't subscribe to any point of view where blowing up innocent people qualifies as patriotism.:shrug:
I don't subscribe to any point of view where blowing up innocent people qualifies as patriotism.:shrug:
Who's innocent? Again pov
goof2
01-20-2011, 11:29 AM
Who's innocent? Again pov
Indiscriminately bombing crowds gives the bomber no control over who their victims will be. Murdering people at random doesn't allow for determinations of guilt or innocence.
Kaneman
01-20-2011, 11:53 AM
I don't subscribe to any point of view where blowing up innocent people qualifies as patriotism.:shrug:
Why do you hate the U.S. Military so much?
Why do you hate the U.S. Military so much?
Ba-zing!
goof2
01-20-2011, 12:06 PM
Why do you hate the U.S. Military so much?
Sorry, I don't subscribe to any point of view where randomly blowing up innocent people qualifies as patriotism.
Kaneman
01-20-2011, 12:06 PM
Sorry, I don't subscribe to any point of view where randomly blowing up innocent people qualifies as patriotism.
:lol:
Nicely done sir.
Homeslice
01-20-2011, 12:42 PM
The IRA was doing exactly this 20-30 years ago and yes, it was called terrorism then too.
But we are talking about things that happen in America.
For instance what about that old white dude who mailed a bunch of pipe bombs in the 70's or 80's? Was that called terrorism?
goof2
01-20-2011, 01:11 PM
But we are talking about things that happen in America.
For instance what about that old white dude who mailed a bunch of pipe bombs in the 70's or 80's? Was that called terrorism?
I don't think qualifying something as terrorism is especially dependent on location.:shrug:
If you are talking about the Unibomber then yes. Even he called what he was doing "terrorist activities" in his 1995 letter demanding his manifesto be printed. There is at least one area where his actions were different from this attempted attack though. He was trying to target specific people and institutions by directly mailing them bombs. The targets of this attempt would have been completely random.
If you are talking about someone else I don't know who you mean.
anthonyk
01-20-2011, 01:14 PM
With no insight into the motive for putting the bomb there, how can you call it terrorism? Terrorism is all about motive, not a description of the action itself.
goof2
01-20-2011, 01:24 PM
With no insight into the motive for putting the bomb there, how can you call it terrorism? Terrorism is all about motive, not a description of the action itself.
Admittedly I am making an assumption about the motive, but I think it is a fair one to make. What other reason would someone have to leave a concealed bomb in a public place? Even if we remove the parade from the equation there really aren't many other plausible explanations.
Homeslice
01-20-2011, 01:48 PM
Well, when I was a kid, I was pseudo-friends with a few other kids who would plant pipe bombs here and there. It was called pranks or vandalism back then. As opposed to terrorism which IMO is "wanting to instill fear and/or political change".
anthonyk
01-20-2011, 02:21 PM
Admittedly I am making an assumption about the motive, but I think it is a fair one to make. What other reason would someone have to leave a concealed bomb in a public place? Even if we remove the parade from the equation there really aren't many other plausible explanations.
The reason is to kill or injure people. There are about as many motives for doing that as there are people willing to do it.
If someone plowed their car through the parade intentionally, would that be terrorism?
pauldun170
01-20-2011, 02:30 PM
With no insight into the motive for putting the bomb there, how can you call it terrorism? Terrorism is all about motive, not a description of the action itself.
In other words are you saying....
If some guys just feels like killing people...then its not terrorism.
If some guys feel like killing people who would parade in honor of
Martin Luther King just to "show em"" it is terrorism
Homeslice
01-20-2011, 02:58 PM
No......
If someone is pissed because they got laid off, or divorced, and they go on a shooting spree, it's not terrorism IMO.
Terrorism = attempting to change public opinion, policy, or behavior. Not someone who is simply depressed and wants to take it out on others. And not someone who just thinks bombs are cool or wants their name in the paper.
goof2
01-20-2011, 03:34 PM
The reason is to kill or injure people. There are about as many motives for doing that as there are people willing to do it.
If someone plowed their car through the parade intentionally, would that be terrorism?
No......
If someone is pissed because they got laid off, or divorced, and they go on a shooting spree, it's not terrorism IMO.
Terrorism = attempting to change public opinion, policy, or behavior. Not someone who is simply depressed and wants to take it out on others. And not someone who just thinks bombs are cool or wants their name in the paper.
I get what you two are saying and if was planned as a random act of craziness then I would agree that isn't terrorism. From what I have seen though the people interested in committing random acts of craziness typically don't do so with anonymous bombs.
Avatard
01-21-2011, 02:15 AM
Well, when I was a kid, I was pseudo-friends with a few other kids who would plant pipe bombs here and there. It was called pranks or vandalism back then. As opposed to terrorism which IMO is "wanting to instill fear and/or political change".
Yeah, here's the thing about that:
Different times.
Some of the shit I used to do as a kid would probably be on an episode fucking COPS today.
101lifts2
01-21-2011, 02:32 AM
lol, everything has to be called terrorism
"Given the timing and the placement of the bomb, the F.B.I. believes the motive was political: “We're certainly approaching it as a potential domestic terrorism event at this point..."
Seems like a domestic terrorist act to me...:idk:
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