Living in your mom's basement...

[askmrjesus]

Step 1.

Buy a house with a basement. Something like this will do nicely:

JC

[askmrjesus]

Step 2.

Break out your checkbook, and hire me.

JC

[askmrjesus]

Still not done yet...

Taking the "almost final" pics tomorrow. It's been a long two months.

JC

[Captain Morgan]

Damn, big basement. Nice work.

[TommyHotWheel]

Get a haircut...hippie. Great stuff tho.

[ericr]

Looks good! Come finish the ceilings in my dad's basement so I don't have to!

[tommymac]

jesus was a carpenter :lol:

good stuff there.

[azoomm]

Nice stuff. I'm so done with remodeling right now... and I've only been at it for a week.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[askmrjesus]

Damn, big basement. Nice work.

Thanks. Yeah, it's about 1800 sq. ft. total.

Get a haircut...hippie. Great stuff tho.

That is a haircut.

Looks good! Come finish the ceilings in my dad's basement so I don't have to!

No.

jesus was a carpenter :lol:

good stuff there.

Was?

Nice stuff. I'm so done with remodeling right now... and I've only been at it for a week.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

The last 10% of the work, takes 90% of the time. :lol:

JC

[tommymac]

Was?

JC

Well after that whole crucifixion thing I wasnt sure if you could still work or had to go on disability :lol:

[TommyHotWheel]

Well after that whole crucifixion thing I wasnt sure if you could still work or had to go on disability :lol:

He does carry his own nails...:lol

[goof2]

That is a haircut.

You got overcharged.

The last 10% of the work, takes 90% of the time. :lol:

You ever hear the saying 90% done, 90% left?

Great work. It really looks good, almost like it were a nice condo.

[racedoll]

Wish my basement was dry enough that I could something like this.

Good work!

[caveman]

Question:

Why did you use 2 x 6 for the wall studs? Why not 2x4 or alumastuds?

[derf]

Wish my basement was dry enough that I could something like this.

Good work!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumidifier

[Fleck750]

This man would approve.

http://newfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/holmes.jpg

[Papa_Complex]

Wish my basement was dry enough that I could something like this.

Good work!

If your basement isn't dry enough to finish, then you've got problems on the outside of the foundation.

Question:

Why did you use 2 x 6 for the wall studs? Why not 2x4 or alumastuds?

Don't know about the 2x6 but would you use metal studs, in a place with high humidity, and expect them to still be there in 10 years?

[askmrjesus]

Question:

Why did you use 2 x 6 for the wall studs? Why not 2x4 or alumastuds?

I hate metal studs. They're noisy, and pain in the ass to work with. I'm a carpenter, fuck metal studs.

Used 2x6 for the large exterior wall to allow more room for insulation. R-21 vs. R-15. The extra insulation will help balance the use of the HVAC system, since there is only one thermostat, and it's upstairs.

JC

[askmrjesus]

This man would approve.

http://newfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/holmes.jpg

I like that guy. One of the only TV builders who actually knows what he's talking aboot.

JC

[Papa_Complex]

I like that guy. One of the only TV builders who actually knows what he's talking aboot.

JC

And he, and Jim Caruk, occasionally hang around at motorcycle charity events. Caruk rides, but I haven't seen Holmes with a bike yet.

[Avatard]

Wish my basement was dry enough that I could something like this.

Good work!

This.

[racedoll]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumidifier

I wish it were this easy and cheap to fix.

If your basement isn't dry enough to finish, then you've got problems on the outside of the foundation.

I know this, but it will cost more money than I have at the moment to fix properly.

[EpyonXero]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8298&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1297008984


1987 called, they want their jeans back. redflip

[101lifts2]

I did basements with my father on Saturdays for 10 or so years....Chicago winters w/o heat working in the basements suck. Only the framing tho...Mexicans are for drywall and taping. lol

Looks sweet dude.

[askmrjesus]

1987 called, they want their jeans back. redflip


Tell Homeslice to quit looking at my ass.

JC

[CasterTroy]

Good work! :rockwoot:

[LeeNetworX]

I did basements with my father on Saturdays for 10 or so years....Chicago winters w/o heat working in the basements suck. Only the framing tho...Mexicans are for drywall and taping. lol

Looks sweet dude.

my neighbor had 6 guys come in and completely drywall and mud his entire basement in one day. It was amazing how fast those guys worked. A couple of guys are coming today to sand and finish.

[Particle Man]

My basement has a stream running through it :lol: I wish I could do that.

[Papa_Complex]

My basement has a stream running through it :lol: I wish I could do that.

Forget finishing it. Landscaping; that's the ticket. Make a real "man cave" out of it.

[Porkchop]

Wish my basement was dry enough that I could something like this.

Good work!

Its possible. We just got done putting up sheetrock in ours, waiting to do ceiling and floors. Two years ago, every corner was wet and moldy. I made extra money over one summer by acid washing the walls to kill the mold, and then slapped down more than 30 tubs of super thoroseal. That shit is a miracle. It has completely changed how warm and dry the basement is.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100160722/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

[Avatard]

Forget finishing it. Landscaping; that's the ticket. Make a real "man cave" out of it.

Leaky basement? No, water feature.

[Papa_Complex]

Leaky basement? No, water feature.

"Koi pond" :lol:

[LeeNetworX]

http://www.twowheelfix.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8298&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1297008984

Shouldn't you be levitating?

[njchopper87]

My friend's step dad did the same thing when he renovated his house. Giant basement with attached garage turned into entertainment room/kitchen/bedroom. He even threw a stand up shower into the bathroom. It was awesome. He also turned the place into a fucking castle from what it once was. I will never understand why they sold it..

Anyways, great job.

[ontwo]

Well done JC. Looks like quality work.

[LeeNetworX]

Well done JC. Looks like quality work.

Yeah - he's a real miracle worker.

[Avatard]

Yep, he can turn water closet into wine cellar.

[LeeNetworX]

Yep, he can turn water closet into wine cellar.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMNCELCgy3C3cONeDR0fzV4Xf0jbgKZ vJQjBk6Wd3HZaFdX72o1w&t=1

[caveman]

If your basement isn't dry enough to finish, then you've got problems on the outside of the foundation.



Don't know about the 2x6 but would you use metal studs, in a place with high humidity, and expect them to still be there in 10 years?

Well, the metal studs are galvanized and my basement isn't all that humid just cold as hell.

I hate metal studs. They're noisy, and pain in the ass to work with. I'm a carpenter, fuck metal studs.

Used 2x6 for the large exterior wall to allow more room for insulation. R-21 vs. R-15. The extra insulation will help balance the use of the HVAC system, since there is only one thermostat, and it's upstairs.

JC

I get the carpenter thing but arent the metals cheaper and easier to carry up and down stairs. not to mention the fact that to cut them to size is merely the use of tinsnips and no saw dust? plus just about as strong as wood studs once the drywall is up?

[askmrjesus]

Shouldn't you be levitating?

How do you think the ceiling got painted?

I get the carpenter thing but arent the metals cheaper and easier to carry up and down stairs. not to mention the fact that to cut them to size is merely the use of tinsnips and no saw dust? plus just about as strong as wood studs once the drywall is up?

I'm on blood thinners. The last thing I need is room full of pointy metal shit. I'll fucking bleed to death.

It takes me about 15 seconds to measure and cut a board. Sawdust happens. For remodel jobs, wood rules. It's easy to cut, drill and even shape when necessary.

I've worked with metal studs on some commercial jobs, but the bottom line is, I just don't like the fucking things, so I don't use them.

So, the Kitchen is done, and the new French doors are in. Another week or so finishing off the new bedroom closet/paint/new radon abatement system, and I'm out of this fucking basement, and on my way to another one...

I'm never going to get a decent tan at this rate.

JC

[Adeptus_Minor]

While I'm not crazy about all those directional lights in the kitchen, that looks great. :dthumb:

[Papa_Complex]

How do you think the ceiling got painted?

Given your penchant for things that explode? Even money on that.

[racedoll]

So, the Kitchen is done, and the new French doors are in. Another week or so finishing off the new bedroom closet/paint/new radon abatement system, and I'm out of this fucking basement, and on my way to another one...

I'm never going to get a decent tan at this rate.

JC

I am sooo jealous at all that cupboard and countertop space!!

[askmrjesus]

While I'm not crazy about all those directional lights in the kitchen, that looks great. :dthumb:

How many people do you know, that have a little tiny rock show in their basement kitchen? :lol:

I build to make people happy. Personally, I would have done many things differently, but it ain't my basement.

JC

[Adeptus_Minor]

How many people do you know, that have a little tiny rock show in their basement kitchen? :lol:

I build to make people happy. Personally, I would have done many things differently, but it ain't my basement.

JC

I figured you were working within what he asked for, just sayin' :D

[caveman]

That basement looks effin awesome. how much would you charge to come to Michigan and do my basement?
I am looking at this at work and one of my buddies just said that kitchen looks better than his. I think it looks great. Only thing I would have done differently would have been stained cabinetry rather than painted.
What did you use for the ceiling? Did you insulate there for sound? Also, I see some hanging light fixtures, no can lights?
And one more; Flooring? I see a floating engineered hardwood did you level the basement floor first? or a subfloor?

I am working on my plans for my basement so thats why so many questions.

[LeeNetworX]

I'm never going to get a decent tan at this rate.

JC

Looks great.

Love the filename. :lol

[Particle Man]

Hard to believe that's a basement.

[Cory]

Hard to believe that's a basement.

I know right...it looks nicer than my apt

:lol

[ericr]

I think the kitchen looks dang good too! And I'm with you on wood over metal studs AMJ. I personally don't think the metal studs have as much torsional rigidity as wood unless you have plywood on them as opposed to sheet rock (I'd have to ask my dad though, he's the stress analysis engineer, not me :P). It could be the ones I've seen were just shitty work but I'll use wood on anything I build.

[Cruzergirl]

I know right...it looks nicer than my apt

:lol

Looks nicer than my house. :dthumb:




But then, my house was built in the mid 70's as a hair salon (a ghetto hair salon). :shrug:

[askmrjesus]

That basement looks effin awesome. how much would you charge to come to Michigan and do my basement?

The beer tab alone could bankrupt a small Baltic nation.

I have no idea, it depends on what you want and what there is to work with. I'd have to know a lot more before I could give you an accurate number. This project cost about 20K.

I could come to Michigan and help you out, but there is another member on this board who has been waiting patiently for me to finish this thing, so I can finish his basement, so it'll be a while before I'm available.

What did you use for the ceiling? Did you insulate there for sound? Also, I see some hanging light fixtures, no can lights?
And one more; Flooring? I see a floating engineered hardwood did you level the basement floor first? or a subfloor?

I am working on my plans for my basement so thats why so many questions.

5/8 rock on the ceiling. I offered to install sound board underneath, but the tenant is their middle aged daughter, so we just went with the insulation that was already there.

There are can lights in the "living room" section, and one over the main entry.

Got lucky with the slab, it was only out 1/2 inch over 30 feet, so I didn't have to level it. Ordinarily, I'd lay down 2x4 pressure treated sleepers, with an inch and a half of Styrofoam insulation in between them, topped with one inch tongue and groove ply, but it doesn't get all that cold here, so we went with the thicker variety of under-layment/vapor barrier.

I think the kitchen looks dang good too! And I'm with you on wood over metal studs AMJ. I personally don't think the metal studs have as much torsional rigidity as wood unless you have plywood on them as opposed to sheet rock (I'd have to ask my dad though, he's the stress analysis engineer, not me :P). It could be the ones I've seen were just shitty work but I'll use wood on anything I build.

I spent 14 months working on this building in Seattle:

https://picasaweb.google.com/SeattleCondoReview/PioneerSquareTheFlorentine?feat=flashalbum#5346592 759866626914

The thing was originally a warehouse, and it was built like a tank. 24 inch solid heartwood columns, 4 inch cardecking covered with 3 inches of concrete...I'm reasonably certain you could park a fucking battleship in there with no problems...but...

The city inspector (dipshit) said we had to build a five story shear wall up the middle of the thing, so it wouldn't fall over. Yeah, right, sure. Asshole.

Anyway, all the new work done in the building was metal studs, except for that goddamn shear wall, so that should tell you something.

JC

[Porkchop]

AMJ, whats the cost difference between doing a sheetrock ceiling and a drop pannel ceiling? My dad had originally planned that the ceiling on our basement was going to be sheetrock, but 2 years later and 1 dad down... the plans have changed a little. Mom is thinking of diving back into it, but we need to make some decisions before going foreward. We have the ceiling, carpet, cabinets, and doors left to do.

[askmrjesus]

AMJ, whats the cost difference between doing a sheetrock ceiling and a drop pannel ceiling?

Huge difference in materials.

If the ceiling is flat, and doesn't have a bunch of shit in the way, (plumbing, duct-work, etc...) rock will be, off the top of my head, 60% cheaper, at least.

JC

[goof2]

The beer tab alone could bankrupt a small Baltic nation.

I have no idea, it depends on what you want and what there is to work with. I'd have to know a lot more before I could give you an accurate number. This project cost about 20K.

Was that your cost or what you charged the homeowner? If it was the homeowner's bill was that for both time and materials? That sounds surprisingly "inexpensive" to me.

[OneSickPsycho]

Was that your cost or what you charged the homeowner? If it was the homeowner's bill was that for both time and materials? That sounds surprisingly "inexpensive" to me.

I'm guessing materials.

[goof2]

I'm guessing materials.

I can only imagine that's it. Contractors around here would probably charge $20k just for that kitchen.

[CasterTroy]

I can only imagine that's it. Contractors around here would probably charge $20k just for that kitchen.

Around here they're cutting their own throats to try and pick up the smallest jobs.

1%-2% on top of OH and Materials and STILL somebody comes in and cuts them off below cost :idk:

[askmrjesus]

Was that your cost or what you charged the homeowner? If it was the homeowner's bill was that for both time and materials? That sounds surprisingly "inexpensive" to me.

Ok, totaling up my receipts the number is closer to 25K.

The number is a little bit misleading, since the appliances (and the kitchen sink :lol:) all came from upstairs, but no, that figure is for everything. Close to a 50/50 split, time and materials.

The cabinets aren't particularly high end (about 4k), the flooring was on sale, and I use a lot of coupons.

Here's a helpful tip for you DIY's. The Post Office has a coupon for 10% off at Lowe's, included in their change of address kit. It's good for up to $500 off, and as near as I can tell, you can use them every day with no problems. No, you don't have to move.

Also, I do everything, including the electrical and plumbing. If I subbed
that stuff out, the cost would have been much higher.

JC

[z06boy]

Wow that's impressive...very nice man. Now my basement looks pretty plain in comparison. :lol:

[OneSickPsycho]

Ok, totaling up my receipts the number is closer to 25K.

The number is a little bit misleading, since the appliances (and the kitchen sink :lol:) all came from upstairs, but no, that figure is for everything. Close to a 50/50 split, time and materials.

The cabinets aren't particularly high end (about 4k), the flooring was on sale, and I use a lot of coupons.

Here's a helpful tip for you DIY's. The Post Office has a coupon for 10% off at Lowe's, included in their change of address kit. It's good for up to $500 off, and as near as I can tell, you can use them every day with no problems. No, you don't have to move.

Also, I do everything, including the electrical and plumbing. If I subbed
that stuff out, the cost would have been much higher.

JC

Good tip... Over the next couple of years I want to redo the bathrooms and our kitchen... I was thinking about doing the Lowes coupon thing...

[goof2]

Ok, totaling up my receipts the number is closer to 25K.

The number is a little bit misleading, since the appliances (and the kitchen sink :lol:) all came from upstairs, but no, that figure is for everything. Close to a 50/50 split, time and materials.

The cabinets aren't particularly high end (about 4k), the flooring was on sale, and I use a lot of coupons.

Here's a helpful tip for you DIY's. The Post Office has a coupon for 10% off at Lowe's, included in their change of address kit. It's good for up to $500 off, and as near as I can tell, you can use them every day with no problems. No, you don't have to move.

Also, I do everything, including the electrical and plumbing. If I subbed
that stuff out, the cost would have been much higher.

JC

Then it is doubly impressive. Very nice work for a very reasonable price. Thanks for the tip on the Lowes coupon as well.