Erik Making a New Streetbike

[Mikey]

1190RS (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/teaser-buells-new-road-bike/17007.html)

I hope for the best here. We'll see what develops.

[dReWpY]

waiting on the link to load, i hope that the parts are retrofitable lol

[tommymac]

waiting on the link to load, i hope that the parts are retrofitable lol

retrofitable? And youre a grad student :lol:

[dReWpY]

retrofitable? And youre a grad student :lol:

its much like my "WTF" term

stands for "worm translocation factor"

when we did a LC50 and our damn worms kept climbing out of the jar!

[tommymac]

its much like my "WTF" term

stands for "worm translocation factor"

when we did a LC50 and our damn worms kept climbing out of the jar!

Nice :lol:

[Dave]

might as well leave the cover on. its getting frighteningly more obsolete by the second. just wait till honda and suzuki respond to the bmw, ape, and gen4. i intentionally neglect to include yamaha in that because they are wed to that moronic crank and two because they look to be funding GP, SBK, and WSS by themselves with no title sponsors

[Amber Lamps]

might as well leave the cover on. its getting frighteningly more obsolete by the second. just wait till honda and suzuki respond to the bmw, ape, and gen4. i intentionally neglect to include yamaha in that because they are wed to that moronic crank and two because they look to be funding GP, SBK, and WSS by themselves with no title sponsors

:lol::lol::lol::boobs::bowtome::lol::lol::lol: OMG Now that was funny!!!

[Dave]

:lol::lol::lol::boobs::bowtome::lol::lol::lol: OMG Now that was funny!!!

Just spitting the truth brother

[Amber Lamps]

Just spitting the truth brother

Yea unfortunately you're probably right considering that this bike was developed quite a few years ago iirc.:idk:

[Dave]

Yea unfortunately you're probably right considering that this bike was developed quite a few years ago iirc.:idk:

heh. you read this months sport rider? theres a great anti erik buell rant in the mailbox section. 'course its easy to miss seeing as how its right next to a slick zx10 ad ;)

[smileyman]

Obselete or not it will still KILL in Daytona Sportbike:boobs: LOLOL

[Amber Lamps]

Obselete or not it will still KILL in Daytona Sportbike:boobs: LOLOL

Um no, no more Harley Davidson backing=no more special rules for Erik, :sorry:

[Dave]

Um no, no more Harley Davidson backing=no more special rules for Erik, :sorry:

Not to mention its hard to justify that extra 100 cc

[Amber Lamps]

Not to mention its hard to justify that extra 100 cc

PSHAW! What's another 100ccs among friends? Besides, isn't it "only" 65ccs? Heck, if you can justify 1125, why not 1200,,,heck, fuck it, why not 1400cc V-Twins against 600 I4s?

[derf]

Now come on 1400 is pushing it. 12oo is perfect according to the math

4 / 2 = 2
600 x 2 = 1200

That's perfect math

[Amber Lamps]

Now come on 1400 is pushing it. 12oo is perfect according to the math

4 / 2 = 2
600 x 2 = 1200

That's perfect math

Thank you Copernicus....:lol:

[Dave]

aw fuck it why not let it in? daytona sportbike is about to be even more of a zoo anyway since we have chip yates trying to get his electric bike entered. ugly fucker it is too

http://www.chipyates.com/

[smileyman]

Duc has the 848 entered, screw valve area, its a fast fugga.

I was being sarcastic anyways, I never thought the 1125 should have been allowed to compete with the 600s.

[dReWpY]

ok i didnt know this but evidently he posted a second place podium in a wera race on a electric bike vs gas bikes, thats pretty fucking cool

[Dave]

ok i didnt know this but evidently he posted a second place podium in a wera race on a electric bike vs gas bikes, thats pretty fucking cool

I didn't know either till I saw that ugly fugger while browsing fast bikes home page for girl on bike porn

[pauldun170]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/18/erik-buell-racing-1190rs-america-strikes-back/

[Dave]

Not bad. Looks like a modern day take on a 999 mono.

You'd think the street version would have a workable pillion

[smileyman]

I don't even have a workable pillion...Sure there is a seat but nothing to put in it!

[Amber Lamps]

I don't even have a workable pillion...Sure there is a seat but nothing to put in it!

Yea I don't care about that but show me comparable price, reliability, performance, etc to the Japs and I'm in!

[Sixxxxer]

Shit looks Tight...I dig it.

[tommymac]

I don't even have a workable pillion...Sure there is a seat but nothing to put in it!

sure you want to call that thing a seat

[Porkchop]

heh. you read this months sport rider? theres a great anti erik buell rant in the mailbox section. 'course its easy to miss seeing as how its right next to a slick zx10 ad ;)

I saw that letter this morning. Sounds like some of the people around this forum. :lol:

I've questioned his designs in the past, but man I like this bike. I would also like to see price and specs. And hear that fucker at full pin down a front straight.

[Dave]

I saw that letter this morning. Sounds like some of the people around this forum. :lol:

I've questioned his designs in the past, but man I like this bike. I would also like to see price and specs. And hear that fucker at full pin down a front straight.

i like it too. still looks a bit nose heavy but its very manageable. i look forward to seeing it tested.

that said, any gaming of the system this time will put me full throttle in the other direction.

i'll point out for the eb-fanboys that as a token of my fairness to this one i havent once yet giggled about this one having a conventional muffler layout

[Porkchop]

i like it too. still looks a bit nose heavy but its very manageable. i look forward to seeing it tested.

that said, any gaming of the system this time will put me full throttle in the other direction.

i'll point out for the eb-fanboys that as a token of my fairness to this one i havent once yet giggled about this one having a conventional muffler layout

Not gonna lie. The pipe looks like horseshit. But then again, what stock pipe doesn't. :idk:

But i like the tank, and how minimalist the tail section is. Fuck 2 up.

[Homeslice]

i intentionally neglect to include yamaha in that because they are wed to that moronic crank

Why is the crank moronic? If I were going to buy a jap liter bike, I'd buy the R1 just for the unique sound and feel. Couldn't care less if it isn't the fastest or highest tech.

[Dave]

Not gonna lie. The pipe looks like horseshit. But then again, what stock pipe doesn't. :idk:

But i like the tank, and how minimalist the tail section is. Fuck 2 up.

yeah i think hes trying to copy bimotas db7

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-Bimota-DB7Oroneroa.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/Bimota_DB7_Oronero.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/02/05-erik-buell-racing-1190rs.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/02/02-erik-buell-racing-1190rs.jpg

[Gas Man]

Looks good. Now somebody ride tt bitch and report back.

[Amber Lamps]

Looks good. Now somebody ride tt bitch and report back.

Let me go on record, IF this bike makes sense I will buy it, seriously, I really like it!

[Adeptus_Minor]

Looks like they've been taking styling cues from MV.

[Tmall]

I know the lights are stacked, but they remind me of a Mille R

[Mikey]

I do like the looks of the bike, but I'm not looking forward to what will likely be a very heavy price tag.

I wonder if it will finally be able to compete with the Japanese liter bikes now that it's at damn near 1200cc.

[Dave]

I do like the looks of the bike, but I'm not looking forward to what will likely be a very heavy price tag.

I wonder if it will finally be able to compete with the Japanese liter bikes now that it's at damn near 1200cc.

no

[Sixxxxer]

no

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

[tommymac]

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

his bikes were competitive last year and he had decent riders, gotta see who rides for him this year and how they do in testing/developing the bike, as far as homologation I bet they will make some concessions like thye did for foggarty and his bike a bunch of years ago.

[Dave]

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

Never happen without major backing, a willingness to adapt and evolve, and a major infusion of tech.

[Dave]

his bikes were competitive last year and he had decent riders, gotta see who rides for him this year and how they do in testing/developing the bike, as far as homologation I bet they will make some concessions like thye did for foggarty and his bike a bunch of years ago.

Are you talking about the petronas fp1? Edit, I reread it. Fim has a set of very specific rules laid Out this season to prevent another debacle like That

[tommymac]

Are you talking about the petronas fp1? Edit, I reread it. Fim has a set of very specific rules laid Out this season to prevent another debacle like That

to run in superbike you had to make/sell x amount of bikes, I am prety sure FIM looked the other way so they could get in, but that was considering who he was at the time, I dont know if erik is that popular at the wsbk level.

[Dave]

to run in superbike you had to make/sell x amount of bikes, I am prety sure FIM looked the other way so they could get in, but that was considering who he was at the time, I dont know if erik is that popular at the wsbk level.

the fp1's were made, just never sold. theres a warehouse in the uk still stuffed full of the things.

[tommymac]

the fp1's were made, just never sold. theres a warehouse in the uk still stuffed full of the things.

I think there was a provision about them being sold too. I know yamaha made it difficult withthe old r7's they wer eonly selling them to race teams be it factory or privateer. I remember our local dealer had a few but you had to give some sort of racing resume to buy one.

[smileyman]

Never happen without major backing, a willingness to adapt and evolve, and a major infusion of tech.

why bother comparing ten guys in Wisconsin to Japanese corporate might?

[Dave]

why bother comparing ten guys in Wisconsin to Japanese corporate might?

Im not the fool who did :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

Im not the fool who did :lol:


No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

[Mikey]

No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

Not only race and win, but ditch a whole bunch of his "groundbreaking, revolutionary design" along the way. What happened to perimeter brakes and belt drive on the race bikes? :lol:

As far as I'm concerned, Buell has zero credibility on the racetrack. I thought some of his street machines were cool, but nothing he's ever built was technically superior to the stuff coming out of Japan or Europe.

[OneSickPsycho]

No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

I always thought he was talking about building a better 'street' bike.

[Amber Lamps]

I always thought he was talking about building a better 'street' bike.

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right?:idk: I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?:lol:

[Dave]

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right?:idk: I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?:lol:

yup. those elitist ads were practically unbearable. im sure he lost fans with the blast nonsense as well.

[tommymac]

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right?:idk: I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?:lol:

I would think given his current situation its easier building race bikes vs mass producing street bikes, or making boutique bikes like bimota or mv agusta.

Seems like he has his supporters as well as detractors, but unless he hooked up with a major manufacturer it would be tough to mass produce a cutting edge sport bike the way the big 4 do. If I am not mistaken dont the big 4 take a hit on the sport bikes compared to the rest of their machines?

[Dave]

I would think given his current situation its easier building race bikes vs mass producing street bikes, or making boutique bikes like bimota or mv agusta.

Seems like he has his supporters as well as detractors, but unless he hooked up with a major manufacturer it would be tough to mass produce a cutting edge sport bike the way the big 4 do. If I am not mistaken dont the big 4 take a hit on the sport bikes compared to the rest of their machines?

i think almost everything sold here is at a loss. cept maybe the 250 ninja.

[OneSickPsycho]

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right?:idk: I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?:lol:

Everybody has the same rules... I think I should complain, not about Erik bringing nearly twice the displacement, but rather for the big 4 not taking advantage of that rule... I just want more v-twin bikes.

[Dave]

Everybody has the same rules... I think I should complain, not about Erik bringing nearly twice the displacement, but rather for the big 4 not taking advantage of that rule... I just want more v-twin bikes.

A rule that exists in an obscure little series in a country that's no longer a target demographic that will probably exist only one year? I'm sure they're getting right on that :lol

[OneSickPsycho]

A rule that exists in an obscure little series in a country that's no longer a target demographic that will probably exist only one year? I'm sure they're getting right on that :lol

Exactly. So why does everyone bitch?

[Dave]

Exactly. So why does everyone bitch?

Eirk's hubris and the poke at american pride that they've traded our credibility for a bullshit fairytale ending

[smileyman]

I still blame DMG. They should have never allowed that kind of rule making. They was on the crack. Looking back in retrospect, Erik had to know that Harley had him on the bubble. I think he did all he could to try and get enough momentum to make Harley keep him going. Nothing a good father would do for the Frankenstein bikes he made...

Anyways having raced Jap I4s, and tracked my belt driven, outside braked bike against Jap I4s (600s and 1000s) , I can say without a doubt that it is a capable Highway/Track Day bike and a damn sight easier to live with on the streets. In a true race series, despite what they have done in European competition, no it isn't a proper race platform.

That said I will be first in line for a 1190R, over just about any other 1000 right now 'cause it is different, capable, and righteous dude (not cause it is made in the USA)

[Dave]

I still blame DMG. They should have never allowed that kind of rule making. They was on the crack. Looking back in retrospect, Erik had to know that Harley had him on the bubble. I think he did all he could to try and get enough momentum to make Harley keep him going. Nothing a good father would do for the Frankenstein bikes he made...

Anyways having raced Jap I4s, and tracked my belt driven, outside braked bike against Jap I4s (600s and 1000s) , I can say without a doubt that it is a capable Highway/Track Day bike and a damn sight easier to live with on the streets. In a true race series, despite what they have done in European competition, no it isn't a proper race platform.

That said I will be first in line for a 1190R, over just about any other 1000 right now 'cause it is different, capable, and righteous dude (not cause it is made in the USA)

You know what? EBR needs to scoop up some honda engines and slap together a fuel framed moto2 bike with ztl brake. I would support the hell out of that

[smileyman]

If they had any money...They will probably waste away what they have left trying to get results in a very disrespected US Superbike Class.

The ZTL didn't work very well. The ZTL 2 did. Like any bike you have to play with pad compound and run good fluid, but what everyone read from stock versions being tested in bike mags it didn't work...

Belt drive works fine at the track as long as you don't have any compromises at the track that would require a change in gearing. It is very flexible with gearing anyways cause it is a twin, you can always find a gear that works, and different length tracks dont fool it too much. You simply have to have a chain driven sprocket for fine tuning it to the last tenth and hundredth on track.

The chassis has a ton of mechanical grip though and good suspension straight from the box. It doesnt have the range of adjustability that the japs have tho. Pretty much find "your" set up and leave it to ride around any problems that the oriental bikes can fine tune for...

A Moto2 entry would need to be lighter, otherwise I think he could go with the concept as drawn..

[marko138]

Let me go on record, IF this bike makes sense I will buy it, seriously, I really like it!

wha...?...I dont even know you.



Oh...and price is rumored to be north of $40,000.

[Trip]

Oh...and price is rumored to be north of $40,000.

Oh that crazy Buell, he could barely sell bikes at $5k.

[marko138]

Oh that crazy Buell, he could barely sell bikes at $5k.
Don't tell me. I didn't come up with the sticker price.

[smileyman]

Well lessee, at the 12999 MSRP I got mine for 9000 about 30% off, so his $40K sumthing bike may actually close near $28,000 and up...

Nope, that doesnt make sense. Even if it could fly and mix drinks.

[marko138]

Well lessee, at the 12999 MSRP I got mine for 9000 about 30% off, so his $40K sumthing bike may actually close near $28,000 and up...

Nope, that doesnt make sense. Even if it could fly and mix drinks.
Erik has said himself it's going to be a 40k price tag.

[Amber Lamps]

Erik has said himself it's going to be a 40k price tag.

Well I hope Jay Leno enjoys it....

[Dave]

Well I hope Jay Leno enjoys it....

He can ride the pacific coast highway with tom cruise and michael jordan. Ill bet speed turns it into an hourlong shitstorm special

[Trip]

Seriously, if he makes it that price, he is a fucking moron. These aren't Desmos. These are fucking Buells. Not very many people wanted to buy his shit at half the price he was selling it, what makes him think we would buy it at some extravagant price....

[Dave]

Seriously, if he makes it that price, he is a fucking moron. These aren't Desmos. These are fucking Buells. Not very many people wanted to buy his shit at half the price he was selling it, what makes him think we would buy it at some extravagant price....

Cause its 'murican

http://mimg.ugo.com/201012/2/7/2/135272/cuts/took-our-jobs_528x297.jpg

[Sixxxxer]

Seriously, if he makes it that price, he is a fucking moron. These aren't Desmos. These are fucking Buells. Not very many people wanted to buy his shit at half the price he was selling it, what makes him think we would buy it at some extravagant price....

He needs to make up for getting Shafted and bent over by HD.

I like the bike...for 40k...I'd buy myself three ZX10's :lol

[Dave]

He needs to make up for getting Shafted and bent over by HD.

I like the bike...for 40k...I'd buy myself three ZX10's :lol

More like two. But you'd have cash left for a full beet nassert

[Sixxxxer]

Lol...Ok Ok two Zx10's and a Ruckus!

[Amber Lamps]

Lol...Ok Ok two Zx10's and a Ruckus!

Screw that...Mv Augusta F4 and a used Lotus Elise for around $20,000.:rockwoot:

[tommymac]

Screw that...Mv Augusta F4 and a used Lotus Elise for around $20,000.:rockwoot:

fuck that get the f4 senna, not sure what theyre going for now ;) originally I think it was like 32 or 36k

[Sixxxxer]

Have you seen a Ruckus?? There pretty sweet...Lol

[Amber Lamps]

Have you seen a Ruckus?? There pretty sweet...Lol

Yea sweetie, they sure are...:pebbs:

fuck that get the f4 senna, not sure what theyre going for now ;) originally I think it was like 32 or 36k

But then I couldn't afford the Lotus....:panic:

[tommymac]

Yea sweetie, they sure are...:pebbs:



But then I couldn't afford the Lotus....:panic:

if you planned on buying 2 buells then you could ;)

[Amber Lamps]

if you planned on buying 2 buells then you could ;)

No I can only afford one Buell, so it's the MV and a used Elise for me. I guess I'll just have to make do...:lol:

[tommymac]

No I can only afford one Buell, so it's the MV and a used Elise for me. I guess I'll just have to make do...:lol:

I am sure you will manage :lol:

[Amber Lamps]

I am sure you will manage :lol:

Sacrifices sometimes must be made for the greater good...:wink:

[Sixxxxer]

If i lived in the city I'd totally rock a ruckus.

[Mikey]

Screw that...Mv Augusta F4 and a used Lotus Elise for around $20,000.:rockwoot:

God, I love that bike. I've only seen one in person, and my wife got to spend the next half hour wiping drool off my chin. Thanks for the new background.

ETA: If I didn't drive like sixty miles per day on the highway, I'd go for a Ruckus in a heartbeat. Any of the cheap little scooters, in fact.

[Dave]

If i lived in the city I'd totally rock a ruckus.

id take a ninja 250 over a ruckus anyday

[Mikey]

id take a ninja 250 over a ruckus anyday

I think where the Ruckus fails is that it has no luggage options. One of the big draws of a scooter is the luggage carrying capability. Without that, it's just a small, underpowered motorcycle that gets really good gas mileage and doesn't have a clutch.

Too bad, too. It really is a fun little toy.

[Sixxxxer]

This one looks pretty sweet...It's the "Big" Ruckus

http://images.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/lg+honda_big_ruckus_scooter+rear_right.jpg

[Porkchop]

This one looks pretty sweet...It's the "Big" Ruckus

http://images.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/lg+honda_big_ruckus_scooter+rear_right.jpg

Me and my friend always joke around about selling our bikes and rocking Ruckus'.... Ruckuses???? Rucki???? Fuck it..... :lol:

[Mikey]

This one looks pretty sweet...It's the "Big" Ruckus

http://images.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/lg+honda_big_ruckus_scooter+rear_right.jpg

That does look cool, but it still seems to be lacking in the luggage department, which is one of the big selling points for me.

[Sixxxxer]

Well I'm sure you could figure out someway to utilize the rear Rack section behind the seat!

Kinda like these guys

http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35695&start=0

[Trip]

http://www.easttnriders.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36312&highlight=ruckus

[Sixxxxer]

The one with the Yosh looks Sweet!!

I actually may look into one after the 6R is paid off...There not to expensive Used and I would totally rock it around town...And in philly.

[marko138]

Seriously, if he makes it that price, he is a fucking moron. These aren't Desmos. These are fucking Buells. Not very many people wanted to buy his shit at half the price he was selling it, what makes him think we would buy it at some extravagant price....
I guarantee he sells every one of them. Not to me though, or most 'normal' Buell owners.

[smileyman]

Is there such thing as a "normal" Buell owner?

$40K and I am looking to build a 3/4 scale Sopwith Camel. Just saying...

[Dave]

Is there such thing as a "normal" Buell owner?

$40K and I am looking to build a 3/4 scale Sopwith Camel. Just saying...

Hook me up with whoever build your engine :lol: