Yay!!! My Apartment Complex Just Went Section 8!!!

[Amber Lamps]

Okay, for those that don't know, that means that its approved/open to WELFARE RATS!!! Oh and they have been moving in by the dozens. Hardly a day goes by with there being another U-Haul in the parking lot, disgorging a load of roach infested furniture, bastard children, thugnificent dirt bags and welfare mothers....yippee! The cars are the best part though, check this out!

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/Stupid%20Shit/IMAG0023.jpg

[Trip]

So when are you moving? lol

[Particle Man]

Oh eff THAT

[Rangerscott]

Okay, for those that don't know, that means that its approved/open to WELFARE RATS!!! Oh and they have been moving in by the dozens. Hardly a day goes by with there being another U-Haul in the parking lot, disgorging a load of roach infested furniture, bastard children, thugnificent dirt bags and welfare mothers....yippee! The cars are the best part though, check this out!

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/Stupid%20Shit/IMAG0023.jpg

So what you're saying is.........you're feeling more and more at home?


Fuck section 8. A bunch of apartment/duplex complexes used to be nice until the owners sold their souls to the gov. It's a guaranteed check every month for every free loader that moves in.

[derf]

So when are you moving? lol

My thoughts exactly

[Amber Lamps]

So when are you moving? lol

ASfuckingAP!!!! I swear that I'll kill someone if I stay here. This has only started Jan 1 (Thanks to REMCO for letting the existing tenants know, BTW) and already I've had to pop out of my apt in the middle of the night because some dirt bags were hanging out by my door at 2:30 am smoking blunts and talking loud! I am not making friends here, that's for sure.

[Amber Lamps]

So what you're saying is.........you're feeling more and more at home?


Fuck section 8. A bunch of apartment/duplex complexes used to be nice until the owners sold their souls to the gov. It's a guaranteed check every month for every free loader that moves in.

I'm feeling like I worked hard and sacrificed everything to get away from these types of people and now the government is moving them in with me for free!:panic: Oh well, I hope that Bill Clark Homes and Remco enjoy their new tenants and the drug dealers and the crime and the noise and the mass exodus of any "decent" renters they had left.

[Amber Lamps]

My thoughts exactly

Oh wait, maybe I'll get free internet now.....:lol:

[Hydrant]

I'm feeling like I worked hard and sacrificed everything to get away from these types of people and now the government is moving them in with me for free!:panic: Oh well, I hope that Bill Clark Homes and Remco enjoy their new tenants and the drug dealers and the crime and the noise and the mass exodus of any "decent" renters they had left.


It's happening to several complexes in the city where our office is. It almost seems that the owners of these apartment buildings just do not care about the decent people that have occupied them, and taken care of the apartment and complex and the same people who always pay on time without management having to search them down. I don't know if it is just an easy way to get out of running the place, or if it is just a guaranteed payment every month. I'm not exactly sure how the section 8 works with payments, but it's sad to see some nice complexes turn to that.

[Amber Lamps]

It's happening to several complexes in the city where our office is. It almost seems that the owners of these apartment buildings just do not care about the decent people that have occupied them, and taken care of the apartment and complex and the same people who always pay on time without management having to search them down. I don't know if it is just an easy way to get out of running the place, or if it is just a guaranteed payment every month. I'm not exactly sure how the section 8 works with payments, but it's sad to see some nice complexes turn to that.

They still get the same or MORE rent but from Uncle Sam so they don't have to worry about it. I've lived here for over 3 years and I've always paid on time, haven't made even one complaint, have never had a complaint, made most of my own repairs, etc. Since this has happened, I've been threatened in the parking lot by some punk, my water hose was stolen, I recovered it though, and I've had to lock up all my stuff that I had previously left outside.

[Rangerscott]

They pay less and you have to spend more to get away from them.

The real section 8 isn't as cool as the game. LOL Future hobos.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/26/Section8_cover.PNG


We deliver glass to a section 8 apartment complex. Use to be a nice gated complex. Now it's a shit hole. Nice to see they can afford 24" wheels but can't pay decent rent. It's run by a bunch of fat women that just sit on their asses all day. I'm sure they live there too.

Must be nice to wake up at 12pm everyday and go sit out side to do not a damn thing or just drive your hoopty around, then park in the middle of the street to talk to more loaders.


FUCK YO COACH! GOD DAMMIT I HATE LAZY MOTHERFUCKERS!

Don't get me started on the Lone Star card. Mother fuckers will let others use it if they give them cash.

[101lifts2]

Yeah I've seen this too...mostly if not all minorities at least in CA.

[Gas Man]

I would move as fast as possible. It's not like most of those people are just down on their luck. All too many are scum shit that have no respect for other people's stuff. I would up your security measures as well at home and on your cars.

[Amber Lamps]

I would move as fast as possible. It's not like most of those people are just down on their luck. All too many are scum shit that have no respect for other people's stuff. I would up your security measures as well at home and on your cars.

Yea done and done. My GF's lease is up in July and she graduates in May so I've been waiting for her so we can get a place together BUT I'm not sure if I can make it that long...:panic:

[wildchild]

Okay, for those that don't know, that means that its approved/open to WELFARE RATS!!! Oh and they have been moving in by the dozens. Hardly a day goes by with there being another U-Haul in the parking lot, disgorging a load of roach infested furniture, bastard children, thugnificent dirt bags and welfare mothers....yippee! The cars are the best part though, check this out!

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/Stupid%20Shit/IMAG0023.jpg

that was what got me to buy a house and move from apartments. I prefer living in an apt until things come up missing, the common areas start looking like shit, rent goes up to cover extra costs incurred by damage.
let us know what you buy. LOL

oh and the all night parties on a night when you have to go to work in the morning are only beaten by the all night arguing by the other rats.

[t-homo]

ASfuckingAP!!!! I swear that I'll kill someone if I stay here. This has only started Jan 1 (Thanks to REMCO for letting the existing tenants know, BTW) and already I've had to pop out of my apt in the middle of the night because some dirt bags were hanging out by my door at 2:30 am smoking blunts and talking loud! I am not making friends here, that's for sure.

Par for the course?

[Amber Lamps]

Par for the course?

Unfortunately.... I may be posting from prison if this keeps up.

[Amber Lamps]

that was what got me to buy a house and move from apartments. I prefer living in an apt until things come up missing, the common areas start looking like shit, rent goes up to cover extra costs incurred by damage.
let us know what you buy. LOL

oh and the all night parties on a night when you have to go to work in the morning are only beaten by the all night arguing by the other rats.

yep the utter surprise some of these bitches display when their loser baby daddys don't do right never ceases to amaze me. That and the constant screaming at their children....:lol:

[Dave]

Dude get the k6 inside the apartment

[Rangerscott]

Theres an exact same car but painted green with the ninja turtles logo. A LOT of them buy auctioned off patrol Interceprs. LOL

[LeeNetworX]

Yea done and done. My GF's lease is up in July and she graduates in May so I've been waiting for her so we can get a place together BUT I'm not sure if I can make it that long...:panic:

That's a long time to wait it out. If I were in your shoes, I would pay up and GTFO as soon as I could. Good luck - that sucks.

[Mr Lefty]

honestly you may have legal course to break her lease with them going section 8 with no notice...

fuck I'd try anything to get out of a place like that asap

[the chi]

Im pretty sure Ebbs is right on that. They are no longer complying with their agreement to allow you a safe and comfortable living environment. Start making complaints in writing (must be in writing or you'll have no legal footing) right now, and continue to do so at every incident, then you'll have a record and should be able to prove that they should let you out now. Get yourself a place she likes, and she can move in with you when her lease is up.

If it makes you feel any better, they are doing the same thing to our TH S/d in Florida where we own a home. Like it wasn't hard enough to find a renter and make the mortgage, now the neighborhood will be a dump. And we owe too much to sell it.

[Captain Morgan]

Im pretty sure Ebbs is right on that. They are no longer complying with their agreement to allow you a safe and comfortable living environment. Start making complaints in writing (must be in writing or you'll have no legal footing) right now, and continue to do so at every incident, then you'll have a record and should be able to prove that they should let you out now. Get yourself a place she likes, and she can move in with you when her lease is up.


I agree with Rae. Review your lease. It should have a paragraph about your right to a peaceful environment, quiet hours, safety, etc. If so, then you need to complain about EVERYTHING, and do it in letters to management. Even though you can likely take care of yourself, be sure to mention that you fear for your safety, along with that of your girlfriend, and the safety of your property. About one week into sending these daily letters, add in wording that you're considering moving due to the constant problems. If they don't fix the problems within a couple weeks, write another letter stating that due to their lack of complying with the lease, which grants you peace and security, you'll be moving within 7 days. Obviously, you need to make sure your lease grants you these things before you take action. Otherwise, they can sue you for failure to complete the lease.

Frankly, I'd also talk to all of the "good" people in your complex and compel them to do the same. If management gets daily letters from a lot of the better tenants with threats to move, they may start taking action.

[wildchild]

um no you can't break your lease for this. in fact they aren't even supposed to disclose the info to you. not like it's hard to figure out.

my landlord was pretty cool about my leaving but i had lived there for 14 years and done a ton of free work around the place for him.

best bet is talk to them without threatening or any BS. tell them your concerns.

there are two reasons they go section 8. someone threatened a lawsuit for discriminiation, or they need cash and have to get units rented.

if they need money you may have to ride out the lease, if it was the suit then they may let you go because they understand.

[Mr Lefty]

um no you can't break your lease for this. in fact they aren't even supposed to disclose the info to you. not like it's hard to figure out.

my landlord was pretty cool about my leaving but i had lived there for 14 years and done a ton of free work around the place for him.

best bet is talk to them without threatening or any BS. tell them your concerns.

there are two reasons they go section 8. someone threatened a lawsuit for discriminiation, or they need cash and have to get units rented.

if they need money you may have to ride out the lease, if it was the suit then they may let you go because they understand.

i didn't know they weren't supposed to inform you... however I do agree don't threaten... just COMPLAIN about everything... especially the time you were threatened... THAT WILL give you just cause to break a lease just find a lawyer if need be

[Captain Morgan]

um no you can't break your lease for this. in fact they aren't even supposed to disclose the info to you. not like it's hard to figure out.

my landlord was pretty cool about my leaving but i had lived there for 14 years and done a ton of free work around the place for him.

best bet is talk to them without threatening or any BS. tell them your concerns.

there are two reasons they go section 8. someone threatened a lawsuit for discriminiation, or they need cash and have to get units rented.

if they need money you may have to ride out the lease, if it was the suit then they may let you go because they understand.

that all depends on what the lease says. The lease is a contract between the landlord and the renter. Both parties have to uphold their end of the deal. If not, the contract can be terminated by either party. This is why I suggested he read his lease to be sure what it says. If there is nothing in the lease about right to privacy, quiet hours, security, etc., then he's screwed and is stuck living there till the lease is up, or at the very least, paying the termination fee to end the lease early.

However, if he's on month-to-month, then it really doesn't matter and he can simply give 30 days notice at any point.

I didn't tell him to threaten to leave immediately, rather complain about EVERYTHING, then if nothing is done after a week or so of daily written complaints, threaten to move. Continue writing daily complaint letters until something is done or he moves. However, as stated above, if his lease has no paragraph about right to peace, safety, etc., none of this matters.

ETA: it's also a very good idea to write down specific dates and times of the incidents. Probably a good idea to call management anytime something happens, then follow that up with a written letter the next day detailing the incident. While this seems like the "bitch" thing to do, you'll have to do it to show just cause for moving if they try to sue you. Just make sure you know what your lease says about your landlords duties, your rights, etc.

[Papa_Complex]

that all depends on what the lease says. The lease is a contract between the landlord and the renter. Both parties have to uphold their end of the deal. If not, the contract can be terminated by either party. This is why I suggested he read his lease to be sure what it says. If there is nothing in the lease about right to privacy, quiet hours, security, etc., then he's screwed and is stuck living there till the lease is up, or at the very least, paying the termination fee to end the lease early.

However, if he's on month-to-month, then it really doesn't matter and he can simply give 30 days notice at any point.

I didn't tell him to threaten to leave immediately, rather complain about EVERYTHING, then if nothing is done after a week or so of daily written complaints, threaten to move. Continue writing daily complaint letters until something is done or he moves. However, as stated above, if his lease has no paragraph about right to peace, safety, etc., none of this matters.

ETA: it's also a very good idea to write down specific dates and times of the incidents. Probably a good idea to call management anytime something happens, then follow that up with a written letter the next day detailing the incident. While this seems like the "bitch" thing to do, you'll have to do it to show just cause for moving if they try to sue you. Just make sure you know what your lease says about your landlords duties, your rights, etc.

Bingo. If the actions of the property owner contribute to an unsafe environment or loss of "enjoyment of residence", and they are put on notice for it, then it could easily constitute a breach of their contractual responsibilities.

[the chi]

Exactly what Capt. said! When i was managing a local apartment complex a section of our lease stated that if for any reason we sold the property or it changed hands in any way, tenants would have the right to vacate with proper (30 days) notice. It also stated that all tenants had a right to safety, security and quiet. Any respectable and reputable leasing agency will have a state recognized lease that would have all things in it. Usually the only time you run into an issue with not having these already included is if it is private party, rent by owner, etc.

[Rangerscott]

Hide your bikes.

[the chi]

Hide yo wife. Wait, GF. :lol:

[wildchild]

I didn't tell him to threaten to leave immediately, rather complain about EVERYTHING, then if nothing is done after a week or so of daily written complaints, threaten to move.

i didn't mean to imply you had said to threaten, but on this board and we all know it and do it, sooner or later someone says threaten his azz. LOL

keep in mind right to a peaceful place means cops aren't arresting people for disturbing peace. if the cops aren't there every night it must be within the accepted "peace" standards of the law.

[the chi]

Sorry WC, not true.

Right to a peaceful residency means you dont have folks outside at all hours keeping you awake, loud music from the neighbors, screaming children either in or out, and so on and so forth. It doesn't have anything to do with whether the PD is out there every night. If they are, you have much worse problems.

[wildchild]

Sorry WC, not true.

Right to a peaceful residency means you dont have folks outside at all hours keeping you awake, loud music from the neighbors, screaming children either in or out, and so on and so forth. It doesn't have anything to do with whether the PD is out there every night. If they are, you have much worse problems.

i as a resident couldn't agree with you more. however any atty worth a shit would fight in court that you vacated a residence and broke a lease even though by "lawful" standards it was acceptable.

i can only speak for landlords I know of and they would haul your ass in court in a second for breaking a lease. they usually don't get their money (renters seldom pay the judgement) but you will never get another decent apt either.

[Papa_Complex]

i as a resident couldn't agree with you more. however any atty worth a shit would fight in court that you vacated a residence and broke a lease even though by "lawful" standards it was acceptable.

i can only speak for landlords I know of and they would haul your ass in court in a second for breaking a lease. they usually don't get their money (renters seldom pay the judgement) but you will never get another decent apt either.

And that issue can be avoided with three simple words: document, Document, DOCUMENT!

[tommymac]

Hide your bikes.

Someones going to try and take em, they see shiny newish gsxr's you know they can use the proceeds for crack money or new 24's.

[Trip]

I think you guys read it wrong, his gf may not live in the same place as him and may not have had this section 8 crap happen. He is choosing to wait for her lease to end at another place, so they can get a place together.

[Mr Lefty]

I think you guys read it wrong, his gf may not live in the same place as him and may not have had this section 8 crap happen. He is choosing to wait for her lease to end at another place, so they can get a place together.

if that's the case... fuck it... move and add her when her lease is up.

[wildchild]

if that's the case... fuck it... move and add her when her lease is up.

you were thinking about his girl weren't you? LOL

[Trip]

if that's the case... fuck it... move and add her when her lease is up.

yeah the one thing I learned when I was living in apartments, spend the extra coin to live on the top floor/corner apt in a nice complex.

[the chi]

I caught that, thats why i said Get yourself a place she likes, and she can move in with you when her lease is up.

[Rangerscott]

Tigger. Youre a mix breed. Im sure theyll accept you as one of them and leave you alone. Of course having a white gf with a front end lift probably wont help cause they start slobbering when one walks by.

[Mr Lefty]

you were thinking about his girl weren't you? LOL
actually... she's not my type...


yeah the one thing I learned when I was living in apartments, spend the extra coin to live on the top floor/corner apt in a nice complex.
I've always liked the ground floor closer to my bike and car... also makes getting my tools outta my apartment

[Trip]

I've always liked the ground floor closer to my bike and car... also makes getting my tools outta my apartment

I like being the one who always makes the noise on the roof.

[Amber Lamps]

This. Also, ground floor apts are easier to break into.

I am month to month so I can leave whenever I wish. I called the office and they have gotten several calls from regular tenants intending to move so they are being hard core about the lease terms, security deposit, etc. I don't care, I'm probably out in two months or so. I hate to be an ass but I'll probably secure new lodgings and then not pay my last months rent and let them "evict" me since it's doubtful I'll get my deposit back anyway. That should take a month or so. My deposit was one month's rent, btw. Even Steven I say.

[Amber Lamps]

Hide your bikes.

Yea three young thugs were hanging outside my building "admiring" our bikes when I got home today... A REALLY ugly glare sent them up the sidewalk...:panic:

[tommymac]

This. Also, ground floor apts are easier to break into.

I am month to month so I can leave whenever I wish. I called the office and they have gotten several calls from regular tenants intending to move so they are being hard core about the lease terms, security deposit, etc. I don't care, I'm probably out in two months or so. I hate to be an ass but I'll probably secure new lodgings and then not pay my last months rent and let them "evict" me since it's doubtful I'll get my deposit back anyway. That should take a month or so. My deposit was one month's rent, btw. Even Steven I say.

it will take well over a month before an eviction goes through so not to worry there, I would see if you had another place to stash the bikes though, your glare may have made them move on but i am sure theyre already casing things out and seeing when you come and go.

[Rangerscott]

Storage unit.

[EpyonXero]

Tigger. Youre a mix breed. Im sure theyll accept you as one of them and leave you alone. Of course having a white gf with a front end lift probably wont help cause they start slobbering when one walks by.

wtf

[EpyonXero]

So much fear in this thread.

[Rangerscott]

wtf

TFisW

[Mr Lefty]

So much fear in this thread.

I wouldn't say fear... just if he's already experienced a lot of BS it's reaction...

now if he started a thread saying my apartment goes section 8 next month what do I do... and the replies stayed the same... then yes fear...


ignore the ignorant comment about his white girlfriend... its retarded

[Amber Lamps]

So much REALITY in this thread.

Fixed it for you.

[Amber Lamps]

I wouldn't say fear... just if he's already experienced a lot of BS it's reaction...

now if he started a thread saying my apartment goes section 8 next month what do I do... and the replies stayed the same... then yes fear...


ignore the ignorant comment about his white girlfriend... its retarded

Besides, I've been on both sides of this situation. I know how this works. The welfare rats migrate often because, "that apt complex/project is fucked up". What they ALWAYS fail to realize is that it is they themselves that "fucked it up" in the first place. They bring in the drug trade as users, they bring in the crime, they bring in the violence, they bring in the noise/drama, etc. They tear the places down and then complain that it is run down. They have zero respect for the property of others but expect a shit ton of respect themselves.

Example; I pull up tonight and this dread lock wearing piece of human offal is banging a toilet plunger against the curb in the parking lot next to another neighbors car. Apparently, he had stopped up his toilet and was using the curb to knock the shit form out of the inside of the device... If this would have been my car, I might have taken it and knocked the shit out of him! I mean, that's just gross and I can just imagine bits of human waste flying everywhere while this knuckle dragging dirt bag is swinging this plunger around.:panic:

[Hydrant]

Yea three young thugs were hanging outside my building "admiring" our bikes when I got home today... A REALLY ugly glare sent them up the sidewalk...:panic:


Until you go to sleep, then it's game on.

[Rangerscott]

I wouldn't say fear... just if he's already experienced a lot of BS it's reaction...

now if he started a thread saying my apartment goes section 8 next month what do I do... and the replies stayed the same... then yes fear...


ignore the ignorant comment about his white girlfriend... its retarded


That wasnt an attack on tigger or his girlfriend.

[Mr Lefty]

That wasnt an attack on tigger or his girlfriend.

no but it was an ignorant statement based on stereotypes.... :2cents:

[Rangerscott]

no but it was an ignorant statement based on stereotypes.... :2cents:

Stereotype and truth are two different things. Not all hood rats will harass a female but a ton will. What else is there to do after sitting around all day and a hot thing walks by?

Ive been around and worked around section 8 enough to see what goes on.

[derf]

There is no fear in this thread, from what I have read, its all based on experience, and interactions with that group of people.

[Rangerscott]

I just want tigger to watch over his girl. I know he does already but walking her to her car during the night is a lot better than her saying good bye while you continue to play call of duty.

I know not all welfare people are crack heads, but just had some really bad luck. Truth is theres more rotten apples than good ones.

[Mr Lefty]

Stereotype and truth are two different things. Not all hood rats will harass a female but a ton will. What else is there to do after sitting around all day and a hot thing walks by?

Ive been around and worked around section 8 enough to see what goes on.

I understand... but your statement was a generalization... as if it was true 100% of the time...

shit a lot of guys will "drool" over or fantasize over a blonde with big boobs. especially if she is "out of their league"

[Rangerscott]

I understand... but your statement was a generalization... as if it was true 100% of the time...

shit a lot of guys will "drool" over or fantasize over a blonde with big boobs. especially if she is "out of their league"

I just didnt go into detail on my statement. I meant being harassed. Looking is one thing but getting close (really close) or them putting a hand on her can happen. Too many times hearing, "Get away from me."

[Mr Lefty]

I just didnt go into detail on my statement. I meant being harassed. Looking is one thing but getting close (really close) or them putting a hand on her can happen. Too many times hearing, "Get away from me."

again... stereotyping... yes it may happen doesn't mean all section 8 males will do it.

[shmike]

again... stereotyping... yes it may happen doesn't mean all section 8 males will do it.

Not all.

Some are too drunk to bother.

[Rangerscott]

Not all.

Some are too drunk to bother.

Yup. They get their welfare checks at the first of the month. Liquor stores here are jam packed.

[Amber Lamps]

Not all.

Some are too drunk to bother.

Or too high...

Look I love being an understanding person and giving the benefit of the doubt but the simple truth is that most of these pieces of shit are just working the system when in reality they could easily get a job. I have zero compassion for them whatsoever. If I wanted to live around this type of trash, I'd go back to Mi, La or Ca and move in with my family.

[Amber Lamps]

Yup. They get their welfare checks at the first of them month. Liquor stores are jam packed.

Oh fuck their welfare checks, it's the hoodrat spending spree month around here with all of them getting their federal EIC/welfare checks. The mall, Best Buy and Walmart has been packed for the last couple weeks or so. Flat screens, lap tops, car stereos, etc are flying off the shelves. 1/4 of the cars in the parking lot are sporting paper plates from local "Buy Here/Pay Here" car lots.:panic:

[Rangerscott]

What's great is they get their welfare checks and medicaid. I've seen some hard working people's retirement reports (what they'll get when they retire) and it just plain sucks.

[Amber Lamps]

I just didnt go into detail on my statement. I meant being harassed. Looking is one thing but getting close (really close) or them putting a hand on her can happen. Too many times hearing, "Get away from me."

Everyone knows that I'm not a gun person and some of you know why but all that will change quickly if ANYONE puts a hand on my girl. No this is not E-penis talking, I am dead fucking serious.

[Amber Lamps]

What's great is they get their welfare checks and medicaid. I've seen some hard working people's retirement reports (what they'll get when they retire) and it just plain sucks.

Oh it's nuts what some of them get... some get upwards of $4-5,000 in returns even though they don't pay anything in. I've said it before, you make under a certain amount per year, okay you don't pay taxes but to get "back" thousands of dollars is fucking borderline criminal!!!

[101lifts2]

How did we know Tigger wasn't the reason the apt. went Section 8?

lol

[Amber Lamps]

How did we know Tigger wasn't the reason the apt. went Section 8?

lol

Because "Amber Lamps" has worked almost continuously for over 30 years. Sometimes three jobs at once...:panic:

[Kaneman]

Everyone knows that I'm not a gun person and some of you know why but all that will change quickly if ANYONE puts a hand on my girl. No this is not E-penis talking, I am dead fucking serious.

If you believe that is a possible issue why would you want until it happens before you act?

You live in Section 8 man, its time for a fucking shotgun.

[Rangerscott]

Because "Amber Lamps" has worked almost continuously for over 30 years. Sometimes three jobs at once...:panic:

And he's served. :rockwoot:

FUCK!!!! I missed my 5000 post!

[Mikey]

Oh it's nuts what some of them get... some get upwards of $4-5,000 in returns even though they don't pay anything in. I've said it before, you make under a certain amount per year, okay you don't pay taxes but to get "back" thousands of dollars is fucking borderline criminal!!!

It's not borderline criminal, it's socialist.

I suggest you do three things, in order:
1. Get a storage unit for the bikes.
2. Buy a shotgun. Something in a 12Ga with an 18" barrel.
3. Move.

[Rangerscott]

You could do a Discovery documentary on them. Live in their tribe. Lean their language. Mate with their women.

There is a chance that you might want to stay with them or become to lazy to get away from them.

[Amber Lamps]

It's not borderline criminal, it's socialist.

I suggest you do three things, in order:
1. Get a storage unit for the bikes.
2. Buy a shotgun. Something in a 12Ga with an 18" barrel.
3. Move.

1. I have a good cable lock on the bike and an alarm, but I am considering keeping my bike at work.

2. I have a 12Ga shot gun already but I appreciate the thought!

3. Already working on it. I may take your first suggestion and get a storage unit but for my stuff, camp with the gf at her place until her lease is up and then move somewhere with her.

My biggest problem will be what to do with the dog! If it weren't for him, I'd already be gone.

[Amber Lamps]

You could do a Discovery documentary on them. Live in their tribe. Lean their language. Mate with their women.

There is a chance that you might want to stay with them or become to lazy to get away from them.

I could be the Jane Goodall of the hood! I wonder if I should get John Hurt or Morgan Freeman to narrate? Hmmmm..... decisions, decisions....

[Kerry_129]

Unless you have full coverage & are ready to 'trade-in', I'd definitely stash the bike elsewhere - especially w/ all the chop-shopable goodies on it. Cable lock/alarm won't do didley if it gets chucked into a mini-van in about 9 seconds flat. When I lived near Charlotte, it was a given that a bike wouldn't last any time in an apt complex anywhere near the rougher areas (based on hearing many theft reports on the local forum over the years), and picking them up/throwing them in a p/u or van seems to be the preferred method.

That's a f'd-up situation, but at least you're month-to-month & have an exit strategy - good luck!

[Rangerscott]

I could be the Jane Goodall of the hood! I wonder if I should get John Hurt or Morgan Freeman to narrate? Hmmmm..... decisions, decisions....

They can tag team.

[goof2]

I could be the Jane Goodall of the hood! I wonder if I should get John Hurt or Morgan Freeman to narrate? Hmmmm..... decisions, decisions....

I don't think you would get very far with them. Bill Cosby would probably do it, he seems to dislike freeloaders.

Keep the bike at work. You are gone for hours a day. I don't care how good your cable lock is. It isn't going to hold up to people who see a free payday and have nothing but time. When you are at work and nobody who hears it will care renders the alarm pretty useless too.

[derf]

no, you need a womans voice to narrate, either barbara walters or woopie goldburg

[Dave]

no, you need a womans voice to narrate, either barbara walters or woopie goldburg

i can do a passable morgan freeman...and i work cheap :lol

[LeeNetworX]

no, you need a womans voice to narrate, either barbara walters or woopie goldburg

For some reason, Sigourney Weaver is standing out in my mind. I guess because she narrated the US release of the Planet Earth series.

[the chi]

it will take well over a month before an eviction goes through so not to worry there, I would see if you had another place to stash the bikes though, your glare may have made them move on but i am sure theyre already casing things out and seeing when you come and go.

Until you go to sleep, then it's game on.

Both of these. You may have out manned them and they come back for "revenge" by stealing your bike.

Go camp out with the GF. Take the dog out to pee in the wee hours, no one will know unless he's a barker. :lol:

[z06boy]

Just saw this thread...wow that has to suck. Good luck with whatever you end up doing. :hss:

[Amber Lamps]

I don't think you would get very far with them. Bill Cosby would probably do it, he seems to dislike freeloaders.

Keep the bike at work. You are gone for hours a day. I don't care how good your cable lock is. It isn't going to hold up to people who see a free payday and have nothing but time. When you are at work and nobody who hears it will care renders the alarm pretty useless too.

Um I don't think it's THAT bad yet... I mean broad daylight, cut the lock, alarm is going off, pick it up and throw it in the truck/van... Maybe but this is a pretty busy complex and I have a County Deputy that lives across the lot and works nights so...

[Homeslice]

I like the Hidden Valley Ranch car. Apparently it's some kind of trend over the last few years, to take a hoopdie and decorate it with the brand name of some food company. I have seen cars with M&M's, Cheerios, McDonalds, Vernors, etc...............I mean seriously, do these people really think that company is gonna call them up and thank them, much less pay them a sponsorship?

[Amber Lamps]

I like the Hidden Valley Ranch car. Apparently it's some kind of trend over the last few years, to take a hoopdie and decorate it with the brand name of some food company. I have seen cars with M&M's, Cheerios, McDonalds, Vernors, etc...............I mean seriously, do these people really think that company is gonna call them up and thank them, much less pay them a sponsorship?

I very little room to talk when it comes to how people decorate their vehicles. I just thought it was funny they would have the " dats rite laugh now" on the back of a pos, rolling on 17's, with HVR stickers on it. Hahaha!

Just saw this thread...wow that has to suck. Good luck with whatever you end up doing. :hss:

I'm coming to live with you! Buddy....

[Amber Lamps]

Both of these. You may have out manned them and they come back for "revenge" by stealing your bike.

Go camp out with the GF. Take the dog out to pee in the wee hours, no one will know unless he's a barker. :lol:

Yea its that or buy a Taurus Judge....:drool:

[Rangerscott]

I like the Hidden Valley Ranch car. Apparently it's some kind of trend over the last few years, to take a hoopdie and decorate it with the brand name of some food company. I have seen cars with M&M's, Cheerios, McDonalds, Vernors, etc...............I mean seriously, do these people really think that company is gonna call them up and thank them, much less pay them a sponsorship?

Was told that its a code for dealing.

[Rangerscott]

Yea its that or buy a Taurus Judge....:drool:

Hell ya.

[Amber Lamps]

Hell ya.
Concealed AND hard to trace....
:rockwoot:

['73 H1 Triple]

Good luck, you're going to need it. ( the judge sounds like an excellent idea )

Go find a place that the GF likes NOW. That way you get a safe place to live ( peace of mind is important for your health ) and a good spot for the dog. Even if it stretches your budget until the GF moves in, it's worth it in the long run.

Jeff

[the chi]

Yea its that or buy a Taurus Judge....:drool:

Going to shoot one tomorrow before I buy one for the hubby next week. I'll let ya know how it shoots. :wink:

[wildchild]

i understand what everyone is saying but i must say i kept my bikes at my apt. i know i've said it before but i had two problems in many years. both not huge. one ended in a running sect 8 participant one ended with a scratched bike. you can't hide everything from them and you have to live your life. it's not like your in the middle of the hood the day they start sect 8. it takes a few years for the complete downward turn. i parked my bikes in front of my truck.

i would honestly bwe more worried about your girl. i doubt they'll touch her but the constant stares, crotch grabbing (their own) and cat calls are annoying as hell. the "brushup" on the sidewalk etc.

[Rangerscott]

Going to shoot one tomorrow before I buy one for the hubby next week. I'll let ya know how it shoots. :wink:

Gonna shoot both ammos for it?

[Amber Lamps]

Going to shoot one tomorrow before I buy one for the hubby next week. I'll let ya know how it shoots. :wink:

Sweet!!! I've considered it for a LONG time but have never had the opportunity to shoot one personally or talk to someone I trust that has shot one. Let me know what you think, Rae Rae!

[Amber Lamps]

i understand what everyone is saying but i must say i kept my bikes at my apt. i know i've said it before but i had two problems in many years. both not huge. one ended in a running sect 8 participant one ended with a scratched bike. you can't hide everything from them and you have to live your life. it's not like your in the middle of the hood the day they start sect 8. it takes a few years for the complete downward turn. i parked my bikes in front of my truck.

i would honestly bwe more worried about your girl. i doubt they'll touch her but the constant stares, crotch grabbing (their own) and cat calls are annoying as hell. the "brushup" on the sidewalk etc.

I worry about that as well but my GF isn't some little "victim" so I'd almost worry about them!:lol: BTW I know that it doesn't go completely to hell over night but you have to understand that you don't go from Beverly Hill to Detroit overnight either and this place has been falling down the hole for a while. Only 30% of the apts were occupied so I understand why they did it but I still don't like it!

[goof2]

Um I don't think it's THAT bad yet... I mean broad daylight, cut the lock, alarm is going off, pick it up and throw it in the truck/van... Maybe but this is a pretty busy complex and I have a County Deputy that lives across the lot and works nights so...

Its your bike and your assessment of the situation that matters, but that you have considered it made me think it may be a good idea.:shrug:

[Amber Lamps]

Its your bike and your assessment of the situation that matters, but that you have considered it made me think it may be a good idea.:shrug:

Oh I understand and I honestly appreciate the concern! Oh and I'm not saying that it's impossible by any means. One good thing about this place is that there is only one entrance/exit and I live in the last building of 12 so you have to drive by all of these potential witnesses, steal my bike and drive back past all of these people to get out onto a very busy street btw. Again anything is possible but to steal my 5 year old bike...:idk:

[goof2]

Oh I understand and I honestly appreciate the concern! Oh and I'm not saying that it's impossible by any means. One good thing about this place is that there is only one entrance/exit and I live in the last building of 12 so you have to drive by all of these potential witnesses, steal my bike and drive back past all of these people to get out onto a very busy street btw. Again anything is possible but to steal my 5 year old bike...:idk:

As long as you aren't too worried about it. On the 5 year old bike thing, mine is 10 years old and not in great shape. People still come up to me thinking it is new. People who don't know bikes really don't know bikes.

[Captain Morgan]

I like the Hidden Valley Ranch car. Apparently it's some kind of trend over the last few years, to take a hoopdie and decorate it with the brand name of some food company. I have seen cars with M&M's, Cheerios, McDonalds, Vernors, etc...............I mean seriously, do these people really think that company is gonna call them up and thank them, much less pay them a sponsorship?

Was told that its a code for dealing.

About ten years ago, companies actually did pay you to drive around with their logos, etc. on your car. There was a specific website that you could go to and register/apply. It paid something like 300 to 400 per month, depending on where you lived, drove, parked, etc. Not sure if this still occurs or not.

[Rangerscott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRlry5KH6I0&feature=feedu

[Papa_Complex]

I think I understand how you feel, a little. Years back, the company that built this town went bankrupt. Their assets were sold off, including this complex. Slowly, over the last decade, the old residents have been moving out and the property management company has been renting to anyone who said that they would pay the rent. The idea of vetting tenants went right out the window.

Since then, they've started having trouble with people failing to pay rent and having to be evicted, or have done midnight moves one step ahead of the boot. My neighbours, on one side, are constantly making so much noise that I think they're going to come through the walls. The neighbours, on the other side, have been there for a year but still have bed sheets covering most of their windows. One door over from that there's a kid who dumped broken beer bottles in my yard, last weekend, and this weekend I found a couple of bottles rigged up as crack pipes (hole in the bottom and burnt tinfoil over the neck).

It's obviously not as bad as you're dealing with. My advice is get the hell out.

[ontwo]

Damn that sux. Good luck with the move

[Amber Lamps]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRlry5KH6I0&feature=feedu

Thanks! I don't understand the "controversy", I wouldn't use a 3'' barrel revolver of any type to try and take down targets over 20-30' away... I'm not saying that it can't be done with a .357 but..:idk: In my mind, and I'm sure the gun nuts will disagree, but when you start shooting farther than that you're no longer talking "personal defense". I'm not anticipating going into a "gun battle" with this thing...:wink:

Anyway, I think I'm going to go this way and load it with a 410 shell of 7.5-to serve as a "warning", a couple of the 410 00-to make it more real and finish it off with two 45s. Either that or all 410 00/000 buck shot I'm not sure yet. My GF has permits as well and she's might get one too. We're going to go shopping next week but we both have law enforcement contacts that claim to be able to hook us up with one in the $350-400 range, so we'll see.

[Amber Lamps]

Damn that sux. Good luck with the move

Thanks Bro!

[Amorok]

Sorry Tig, that blows. Move down here, there's a decent rental property right behind me!

[Amber Lamps]

Sorry Tig, that blows. Move down here, there's a decent rental property right behind me!

To Mississippi? With a white girl? ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol: I'd have to buy two guns, body armor and hire a full time body guard!:lol:

[Amorok]

Dude, it's years after the last time you were down this way. Black dudes date white girls all the time here.

[Amber Lamps]

Dude, it's years after the last time you were down this way. Black dudes date white girls all the time here.

I know, I'm just kidding!:lol:

['73 H1 Triple]

..................

Anyway, I think I'm going to go this way and load it with a 410 shell of 7.5-to serve as a "warning", a couple of the 410 00-to make it more real and finish it off with two 45s. Either that or all 410 00/000 buck shot I'm not sure yet. My GF has permits as well and she's might get one too. We're going to go shopping next week but we both have law enforcement contacts that claim to be able to hook us up with one in the $350-400 range, so we'll see.

NO NO NO

By the time it's come to pulling your weapon, the "warning" time has passed. Load the cylinder with your best ammo choice.

[Amber Lamps]

NO NO NO

By the time it's come to pulling your weapon, the "warning" time has passed. Load the cylinder with your best ammo choice.

Hmm... I understand your POV but I honestly don't want to kill anyone ever again, if I can help it.... I really think that a blast of bird shot in the face will scare off 99.9% of attackers, if not the second shot will incapacitate them. Besides, the smaller shot will abrogate the possibility of collateral damage somewhat. Which is something else that I'm concerned with in the apt setting. :idk: I'll probably just go with either 00 or 000, I'll probably never have to use it anyway.:wink:

[Amorok]

Well, if that's your goal just get a Taser. Then, you get your message across and we get awesome video footage!

[Kaneman]

Hmm... I understand your POV but I honestly don't want to kill anyone ever again, if I can help it.... I really think that a blast of bird shot in the face will scare off 99.9% of attackers, if not the second shot will incapacitate them. Besides, the smaller shot will abrogate the possibility of collateral damage somewhat. Which is something else that I'm concerned with in the apt setting. :idk: I'll probably just go with either 00 or 000, I'll probably never have to use it anyway.:wink:

As long as you don't mind getting murdered while your girl gets gangraped then it shouldn't be a problem. Good on ya bro!

['73 H1 Triple]

Hmm... I understand your POV but I honestly don't want to kill anyone ever again, if I can help it.... I really think that a blast of bird shot in the face will scare off 99.9% of attackers, if not the second shot will incapacitate them. Besides, the smaller shot will abrogate the possibility of collateral damage somewhat. Which is something else that I'm concerned with in the apt setting. :idk: I'll probably just go with either 00 or 000, I'll probably never have to use it anyway.:wink:

I do not carry myself with the intent to kill someone. I carry to protect myself and my loved ones. Remember, When seconds could, the police are only minutes away ( in legal action taken against the LAPD after the riots, the courts determined that the police are there ONLY to protect the masses. They are NOT responsible for an individual's persons protection)

That "blast of birdshot in the face" has a great possibility of killing them ( the lead shot is very tightly grouped coming out the barrel ).

If you are worried about over penetration, then choose number 2 or 4 shot. Still enough power to penetrate clothing ( may or may not penetrate a heavy leather jacket ) with less chance of making it to the neighbors.

The final decision is yours. For myself, I get the best factory ammo I can get.

[Amber Lamps]

Well, if that's your goal just get a Taser. Then, you get your message across and we get awesome video footage!

Hmmm.... Interesting idea, I was thinking about checking into non-lethal rounds as well. :idk: if they come in 410? I don't want to kill anyone if I don't have to.

[Amber Lamps]

I do not carry myself with the intent to kill someone. I carry to protect myself and my loved ones. Remember, When seconds could, the police are only minutes away ( in legal action taken against the LAPD after the riots, the courts determined that the police are there ONLY to protect the masses. They are NOT responsible for an individual's persons protection)

That "blast of birdshot in the face" has a great possibility of killing them ( the lead shot is very tightly grouped coming out the barrel ).

If you are worried about over penetration, then choose number 2 or 4 shot. Still enough power to penetrate clothing ( may or may not penetrate a heavy leather jacket ) with less chance of making it to the neighbors.

The final decision is yours. For myself, I get the best factory ammo I can get.

Please don't take offense but I have a hard time believing that sometimes considering the guns that some of you own and carry. I've seen/felt what some of these rounds/calibers can do to the human body and some of them are potentially lethal anywhere on the torso. I understand that bird shot can kill and it's not pretty either. I once shot a guy close range with a 12Ga 4 shot (I know not b.s.), ripped a good portion of his thigh off and spread it across the room.:panic: BION I'm not trying to start a gun debate but I want to defend, not attack. I do appreciate the advice though and I will probably go with your advice in the end. I know in my heart that you are right but I don't have to like it do I?:lol:

['73 H1 Triple]

Please don't take offense but I have a hard time believing that sometimes considering the guns that some of you own and carry. I've seen/felt what some of these rounds/calibers can do to the human body and some of them are potentially lethal anywhere on the torso. I understand that bird shot can kill and it's not pretty either. I once shot a guy close range with a 12Ga 4 shot (I know not b.s.), ripped a good portion of his thigh off and spread it across the room.:panic: BION I'm not trying to start a gun debate but I want to defend, not attack. I do appreciate the advice though and I will probably go with your advice in the end. I know in my heart that you are right but I don't have to like it do I?:lol:


No offense taken. Just make sure you make the best choice to protect your gf and you.

[Amber Lamps]

No offense taken. Just make sure you make the best choice to protect your gf and you.

Yea you are right and it's pointless to buy the gun if I'm just going to render it useless from the start...btw I do also own a 12Ga that is always loaded with 00 buck so...:wink: What is almost scary is that I might be joining the CC crowd and I was thinking that this would make a fine CC weapon. I like revolvers because they are compact, simple to operate/clean and super reliable...when was the last time you heard of a wheel gun jamming?:lol::wink:

['73 H1 Triple]

Yea you are right and it's pointless to buy the gun if I'm just going to render it useless from the start...btw I do also own a 12Ga that is always loaded with 00 buck so...:wink: What is almost scary is that I might be joining the CC crowd and I was thinking that this would make a fine CC weapon. I like revolvers because they are compact, simple to operate/clean and super reliable...when was the last time you heard of a wheel gun jamming?:lol::wink:

The only way to jam a wheel gun ( short of mechanical failure ) is for a squib load ( no powder, just primer to launch the bullet ) to lodge a bullet into the forcing cone.

A big advantage of a wheel gun is in case of a misfire. Just pull the trigger to fire the next round.

[Amber Lamps]

The only way to jam a wheel gun ( short of mechanical failure ) is for a squib load ( no powder, just primer to launch the bullet ) to lodge a bullet into the forcing cone.

A big advantage of a wheel gun is in case of a misfire. Just pull the trigger to fire the next round.

Yep!

[the chi]

Sweet!!! I've considered it for a LONG time but have never had the opportunity to shoot one personally or talk to someone I trust that has shot one. Let me know what you think, Rae Rae!

Well plans fell through to shoot the Judge, however going to the shop to buy the hubby's tomorrow, as he knows he wants one regardless.

I will say, took my 410 shotgun out this weekend tho and it was superb, as was the new XD9 SubC I got for our anny. I highly recommend that one if anyone is looking for a new pistol.

If anyone is interested, I didnt see it mentioned here, but there is a company making ammo for the Judge, it involves shot as well as 3 discs shaped like watch batteries, for personal protection. First you get hit with the shot, then it tears a few holes in ya.

As ugly as it sounds, (and this one is for you Tig, cuz I feel ya as far as hurting another person), but the sole purpose of carrying a weapon to protect yourself or others is to do as much damage as fast as possible to prevent the attacker from getting to you or yours. If they wanna make the play, they get to pay.

[Rangerscott]

Well plans fell through to shoot the Judge, however going to the shop to buy the hubby's tomorrow, as he knows he wants one regardless.

I will say, took my 410 shotgun out this weekend tho and it was superb, as was the new XD9 SubC I got for our anny. I highly recommend that one if anyone is looking for a new pistol.

If anyone is interested, I didnt see it mentioned here, but there is a company making ammo for the Judge, it involves shot as well as 3 discs shaped like watch batteries, for personal protection. First you get hit with the shot, then it tears a few holes in ya.

As ugly as it sounds, (and this one is for you Tig, cuz I feel ya as far as hurting another person), but the sole purpose of carrying a weapon to protect yourself or others is to do as much damage as fast as possible to prevent the attacker from getting to you or yours. If they wanna make the play, they get to pay.

That ammo is at the end of the vid I posted.

[the chi]

I never watch vids. Im always on at work, bosses dont respond too cool to youtube, tho soaps are free for all. :shrug:

[Amber Lamps]

That ammo is at the end of the vid I posted.

Yera and I wasn't that impressed for the crazy cost/shell... 00/000 buck is the way I'll go, I think. Tight pattern, lots of damage, decent range but enough spread that you don't have to be an expert shot to hit something in an emergency situation. I think the experts here will agree that irl lots of shots are fired without ever hitting anything because of pressure, nervousness, etc. When you are throwing 4 9mm rounds downrange spread across 3' or so...well, that can greatly improve your chances of hitting something.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Well plans fell through to shoot the Judge, however going to the shop to buy the hubby's tomorrow, as he knows he wants one regardless.

I will say, took my 410 shotgun out this weekend tho and it was superb, as was the new XD9 SubC I got for our anny. I highly recommend that one if anyone is looking for a new pistol.

If anyone is interested, I didnt see it mentioned here, but there is a company making ammo for the Judge, it involves shot as well as 3 discs shaped like watch batteries, for personal protection. First you get hit with the shot, then it tears a few holes in ya.

As ugly as it sounds, (and this one is for you Tig, cuz I feel ya as far as hurting another person), but the sole purpose of carrying a weapon to protect yourself or others is to do as much damage as fast as possible to prevent the attacker from getting to you or yours. If they wanna make the play, they get to pay.

True...

[Amber Lamps]

So for the last few days they have been parking like this.....

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/General%20Bullshit/IMAG0058.jpg

Two more gangs of thugs have moved into my building this week. One guy was having a hard time unloading a probably roach infested mattress with his pants around his ankles...:lol: Looking at apts next week....

[Papa_Complex]

Does your complex have assigned parking, or is it a free-for-all? A little call to the property manager might have interesting results ;)

[Mr Lefty]

So for the last few days they have been parking like this.....

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll220/lontigger/General%20Bullshit/IMAG0058.jpg

Two more gangs of thugs have moved into my building this week. One guy was having a hard time unloading a probably roach infested mattress with his pants around his ankles...:lol: Looking at apts next week....

oh they'd fucking hate me... I'd park my POS truck diagonal right next to them... just to be an asshole.

[Trip]

oh they'd fucking hate me... I'd park my POS truck diagonal right next to them... just to be an asshole.

deja vu

[Mr Lefty]

deja vu

did I do that or say that before?

I did it a lot in AK where use the snow to park all fucked up even when it's easy to park correctly.

[Trip]

did I do that or say that before?

I did it a lot in AK where use the snow to park all fucked up even when it's easy to park correctly.

No, we had a long thread about parking next to people who park stupid or park far away.

[Mr Lefty]

No, we had a long thread about parking next to people who park stupid or park far away.

oh yeah I remember that... if they park stupid close... they're just self important assholes, ie fair game... far away, they're trying to be cautious and truly care about their car, I leave them be IMO

[goof2]

Does your complex have assigned parking, or is it a free-for-all? A little call to the property manager might have interesting results ;)

In a section 8 complex? Good luck with that.

[Papa_Complex]

In a section 8 complex? Good luck with that.

It's only just started, right? The super might not be in the slumlord mindset yet. Could result in some interesting spectator-oriented drama.