View Full Version : Stick figure drawings send 11 yr old to prison
Avatard
02-24-2011, 03:01 AM
Stick figures. Serious business.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/02/23/dnt.inappropriate.stick.figures.kdvr?hpt=T2
caveman
02-24-2011, 04:57 AM
City isn't effin around. haul this kid off and lock him away for free speech. what a bunch of communists
add requires a therapist now?
City isn't effin around. haul this kid off and lock him away for free speech. what a bunch of communists
Threatening speech isn't free. We don't have true free speech.
What is the school suppose to do? If they do nothing, then they take shit for not recognizing the issue soon enough when kids go fucking ape shit. If they go overboard cautious, then they take shit for going overboard. They are fucked either way.
the chi
02-24-2011, 09:21 AM
I'm confused. The school says he wasnt deemed a threat and sent back to class but then after they decided to have him arrested?
I'm sorry, I think this is total BS. I understand the reasoning Trip gave, but all the authorities had to do was talk to his therapist to find out that this was what he was told to do instead of disrupting class or attacking the teacher physically. He was actually doing as he was told. If they are so stupid as to arrest this child, why dont they arrest the therapist for telling him to do it in the first place?
What kid at some point hasn't wanted or fantazied about something bad happening to an adult, be it teacher or parent? Or told their parents they wish they were dead or some crap?
I'm confused. The school says he wasnt deemed a threat and sent back to class but then after they decided to have him arrested?
Teacher could of protested their decision he was not a threat and wanted the cops involved. Only reason I can think of why they changed their minds. That would of forced the schools hand to turn the kid in.
shmike
02-24-2011, 10:19 AM
It's a fucked up story.
The thread title is also fucked up, misleading and wrong.
I hate the fact that a child was arrested for such a silly non-issue but he never went to prison, and it looks like he never even went to jail.
pauldun170
02-24-2011, 10:30 AM
Cant see the video...can someone please provide a quick summary?
Kid drew a picture of himself shooting the teachers of the school. Cops eventually came got the kid even after ruling that the kid wasn't a threat.
shmike
02-24-2011, 10:40 AM
Kid drew a picture of himself shooting the teachers of the school. Cops eventually came got the kid even after ruling that the kid wasn't a threat.
That catch is, kid was previously diagnosed with ADHD.
Therapist tells him to draw out feelings rather than disrupt class.
Kids follows therapist recommendations, and is throwing drawing away when teacher intercepts it.
That catch is, kid was previously diagnosed with ADHD.
Therapist tells him to draw out feelings rather than disrupt class.
Kids follows therapist recommendations, and is throwing drawing away when teacher intercepts it.
In public school, the whole therapist thing doesn't mean shit. It's all zero tolerance now.
Parent accidently drops a regular kitchen knife in schoolbag when fixing kids lunch and putting in his bag. Kid pulls out knife when he pulls out his lunch, teacher sees knife, boom kid is expelled.
There is no acceptable excuse or logical reasoning at public schools anymore. It's take action, get sued by parents, only forced to change policy by a court order.
Private schools ftmfw...
pauldun170
02-24-2011, 10:45 AM
there is a better way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaqYpGZT64
shmike
02-24-2011, 10:47 AM
Private schools ftmfw...
Truth.
OneSickPsycho
02-24-2011, 01:05 PM
there is a better way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaqYpGZT64
No, the kid was told to draw HIS feelings... not YOURS.
askmrjesus
02-24-2011, 09:00 PM
When I was in school, we had super-gay jock folders, made in the USA by the Pee-Chee Gay Folder Co. This was before the 3-Ring binder became popular.
If your folder was clean and shiny, you would get beat up. Only nerds had clean shiny folders. Everyone else drew violent scenes of mayhem and sexual in your end-o.
The second runner always had a stick of Dynamite in his hand, the football was a bomb, and the girl...well, let's just say she wasn't grinning because she was happy with her serve.
If I had a kid, I'd home school him, and socialize him at the dog park.
JC
add requires a therapist now?
Drugs are not the only treatment for ADHD.
askmrjesus
02-24-2011, 09:50 PM
Drugs are not the only treatment for ADHD.
Yelling, "Pay Attention!" only works short term.
JC
LeeNetworX
03-03-2011, 01:19 PM
I'm confused. The school says he wasnt deemed a threat and sent back to class but then after they decided to have him arrested?
There's what the faculty and staff do at the school and at the time, and then you have the school administration at the top making decisions when they hear about it and they may have differing opinions on how to handle the situation, typically after conferring with their legal counsel.
101lifts2
03-07-2011, 12:52 AM
Every time I hear shit like this I just think that this country is totally beyond repair. We have fucked ourselves financially, legally, politically, religously, morally and constitutionally. I'm just waiting for the collapse.
Is it not illegal to arrest someone over free speech? It isn't like the kid passed the thing out as he was thowing it away and it was intercepted. So I can't write wtf I want on a piece of paper cause I "might" act it out? Good God.
Homeslice
03-07-2011, 02:15 AM
ADHD is bullshit. If therapists and drug companies had their way, everyone would be diagnosed with it.
Drugs are not the only treatment for ADHD.
Right that makes perfect sense. I'm sure you can just talk the kid's brain into better dopamine production. Someone ought to apply this technique on amputees :rolleyes:
Right that makes perfect sense. I'm sure you can just talk the kid's brain into better dopamine production. Someone ought to apply this technique on amputees :rolleyes:
It helped my child. You can help them learn how to manage the distractions through activities.
But I only have firsthand experience with this, what the hell do I know right?
My daughter is slightly adhd, and all we did was change her diet and now shes fine, but if she eats fast food she goes all whacky again
My daughter is slightly adhd, and all we did was change her diet and now shes fine, but if she eats fast food she goes all whacky again
I've read on this and wondered about it. Can you pinpoint anything in particular you eliminated that helped the most?
Homeslice
03-16-2011, 02:52 AM
Too many cheap carbs most likely.
Particle Man
03-16-2011, 04:20 AM
Too many cheap carbs most likely.
Does the same for adults. I don't concentrate particularly well when I have eaten a bunch of junk, either.
Mc donald s, burger king, wendys, pizza, peperoni, breakfast cereals, and other processed food. Basic rule of thumb is that if it makes noise before you eat it, it's not good.
We also make sure she eats more fruit, salads, oatmeal, non processed meat.
shmike
03-16-2011, 09:58 AM
Mc donald s, burger king, wendys, pizza, peperoni, breakfast cereals, and other processed food. Basic rule of thumb is that if it makes noise before you eat it, it's not good.
We also make sure she eats more fruit, salads, oatmeal, non processed meat.
Awesome treatment, derf. :dthumb:
Sean said it in one of the food threads a few months back: stay on the perimeter of the grocery store and you'll be much healthier.
Processed shit is will kill your body. It's no better for your brain.
Particle Man
03-16-2011, 10:22 AM
stay on the perimeter of the grocery store and you'll be much healthier.
and the beer aisle is on the outside of the store too...
shmike
03-16-2011, 10:31 AM
and the beer aisle is on the outside of the store too...
All the good stuff is.
Happiness is part of healthiness. :cheers:
Mc donald s, burger king, wendys, pizza, peperoni, breakfast cereals, and other processed food. Basic rule of thumb is that if it makes noise before you eat it, it's not good.
We also make sure she eats more fruit, salads, oatmeal, non processed meat.
Ah, thanks! We eat little to none of those types anyway. At least when he's with me. I fight him on sugar, little bugger loves candy! Lol
anthonyk
03-16-2011, 04:06 PM
Mc donald s, burger king, wendys, pizza, peperoni, breakfast cereals, and other processed food. Basic rule of thumb is that if it makes noise before you eat it, it's not good.
What if it moos or baaas? :D
It helped my child. You can help them learn how to manage the distractions through activities.
But I only have firsthand experience with this, what the hell do I know right?
I only have it. Clearly I don't know shit :rolleyes:
I only have it. Clearly I don't know shit :rolleyes:
Either way drugs are not the only answer like I posted. Sounds like others are also having success through diet.
Archren
03-17-2011, 12:21 PM
I've been recently told by a therapist that I might be ADD, although I haven't been officially diagnosed or anything.
What intrigues me is what appears to be an anger-management technique being used in the ADHD framework. Is it that ADD/ADHD people are more prone to impatience or losing their temper?
pauldun170
03-17-2011, 01:03 PM
I've been recently told by a therapist that I might be ADD, although I haven't been officially diagnosed or anything.
What intrigues me is what appears to be an anger-management technique being used in the ADHD framework. Is it that ADD/ADHD people are more prone to impatience or losing their temper?
My Dr told me I had ADHD and fucking punched him the face and wrecked his office with his golf club.
fucking asshole....SQUIRREL!!!
3 more hours and its twix bar time
SQUIRREL!!!
I dont really eat any junk food and I dont even drink anymore
SQUIRREL!!!
defector
03-17-2011, 02:26 PM
My Dr told me I had ADHD and fucking punched him the face and wrecked his office with his golf club.
fucking asshole....SQUIRREL!!!
3 more hours and its twix bar time
SQUIRREL!!!
I dont really eat any junk food and I dont even drink anymore
SQUIRREL!!!
This is very funny when I imagine your avatar saying it.
I've been recently told by a therapist that I might be ADD, although I haven't been officially diagnosed or anything.
What intrigues me is what appears to be an anger-management technique being used in the ADHD framework. Is it that ADD/ADHD people are more prone to impatience or losing their temper?
When my sons doctor and I were discussing it she mentioned defiance disorder goes hand in hand in many cases.
azoomm
03-17-2011, 03:07 PM
When my sons doctor and I were discussing it she mentioned defiance disorder goes hand in hand in many cases.
OK, no offense, but the listing of disorders these days makes me shake my head. Sure, they are probably ALL diet related. We have gotten so far away from eating actual FOOD in most cases with the processed synthetic crap it's no wonder there are psychological ramifications. Take that and limit physical movement and WHAM - instant issues.
But, seriously?
shmike
03-17-2011, 03:10 PM
OK, no offense, but the listing of disorders these days makes me shake my head. Sure, they are probably ALL diet related. We have gotten so far away from eating actual FOOD in most cases with the processed synthetic crap it's no wonder there are psychological ramifications. Take that and limit physical movement and WHAM - instant issues.
But, seriously?
It's no different really from our dogs being on a raw diet.
Seriously.
Archren
03-17-2011, 03:10 PM
OK, no offense, but the listing of disorders these days makes me shake my head. Sure, they are probably ALL diet related. We have gotten so far away from eating actual FOOD in most cases with the processed synthetic crap it's no wonder there are psychological ramifications. Take that and limit physical movement and WHAM - instant issues.
But, seriously?
I'm fucked in the head, that much is a given. Although I think my anger issues have a lot more to deal with the amount of fucktardery that I deal with on a daily basis than any "disorder" I may have. :lol:
OK, no offense, but the listing of disorders these days makes me shake my head. Sure, they are probably ALL diet related. We have gotten so far away from eating actual FOOD in most cases with the processed synthetic crap it's no wonder there are psychological ramifications. Take that and limit physical movement and WHAM - instant issues.
But, seriously?
Just saying what my sons doctor told me, not whether I agree or not. ;)
I can't eat most of that processed crap since it screws up my sugar levels. So there isn't a lot of it in my house. A poptart for example will give me the shakes. As my son has my genes I treat him as if they would him too. I think we are killing ourselves as a country.
What if it moos or baaas? :D
I was refering to the sound the package makes when you open it
azoomm
03-17-2011, 07:14 PM
Just saying what my sons doctor told me, not whether I agree or not. ;)
Oh, I get that. You were just extremely quotable.
Someone told me they have "Restless Leg Syndrome." I told them to run it off...
fasternyou929
03-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Oh, I get that. You were just extremely quotable.
Someone told me they have "Restless Leg Syndrome." I told them to run it off...
I had that my whole life, long before there was a name for it. Hurts like a MF'er and keeps me awake when it kicks in. Those nights, I get less sleep. I won't take drugs for it or dignify it with a name.
The closest I can explain it is the pins and needles feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, except less acute and much deeper in your muscle tissue.
I had that my whole life, long before there was a name for it. Hurts like a MF'er and keeps me awake when it kicks in. Those nights, I get less sleep. I won't take drugs for it or dignify it with a name.
The closest I can explain it is the pins and needles feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, except less acute and much deeper in your muscle tissue.
Well that sounds like no fun at ALL. :(
azoomm
03-19-2011, 09:51 AM
I had that my whole life, long before there was a name for it. Hurts like a MF'er and keeps me awake when it kicks in. Those nights, I get less sleep. I won't take drugs for it or dignify it with a name.
The closest I can explain it is the pins and needles feeling you get when your foot falls asleep, except less acute and much deeper in your muscle tissue.
That's not restless leg - my grandmother had what you describe. Sorry man, it won't kill you. You'll just wish you were dead.
fasternyou929
03-19-2011, 10:08 AM
That's not restless leg - my grandmother had what you describe. Sorry man, it won't kill you. You'll just wish you were dead.
I remember the first time I saw a commercial for "restless leg syndrome" and thinking "holy shit, we're down to naming this??" Guess all the important issues had already been addressed.
So anyway, if what I occasionally get is not what the drug companies call "restless leg syndrome", what is it (RLS)?
azoomm
03-19-2011, 10:53 AM
I remember the first time I saw a commercial for "restless leg syndrome" and thinking "holy shit, we're down to naming this??" Guess all the important issues had already been addressed.
So anyway, if what I occasionally get is not what the drug companies call "restless leg syndrome", what is it (RLS)?
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I can't imagine being in the medical field working with people coming in all the time after watching commercials or reading on the internet what they "have." Poor Tommy...
I don't know, but my grandmother had the circulation of a turnip. We asked about RLS and they said it wasn't it. Her description of it was exactly what you just posted. Hell, now I'm curious... go in and see what your doctor says.
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