nasty hit

[tommymac]

Charra lit this guy up prety bad, guy got faceplanted into an immovable object for the most part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyhQ508qYrA

[Porkchop]

Chara is a fucking cock. There is nothing wrong with playing hard, but that was fucking diry.

I've been hit into one of those glass edges before. Bout ripped my fucking shoulder right off. :panic:

[wildchild]

that did look pretty nasty.

[Tmall]

I see nothing wrong with it. If he'd have been a couple feet either way it wouldn't have happened.

Definitely shitty, but dirty? Not in my eyes.

[TommyHotWheel]

It was interference, but not a dirty hit. He targeted the hit and hit him before the partition. The momentum drove Pac into the glass. Chara should not be suspended, but probably will. Although he could be suspended for an illegal play(interference) that lead to an injury...maybe 2 games, but who knows with the way the NHL is handing out punishment these days.

[Kaneman]

Holy shi......wait a minute....they still show hockey on TV?

[Homeslice]

Without fighting, nobody would watch it.......that's the only reason they allow it.

Meanwhile they fine a football player for simply saluting the crowd......Total bs

[101lifts2]

Without fighting, nobody would watch it.......that's the only reason they allow it.

Meanwhile they fine a football player for simply saluting the crowd......Total bs

True dat

[Particle Man]

He's in a good place to put some ice on it, at least.

:D

[TommyHotWheel]

Major cuncussion and fractured 4th cervical vertebrae and no suspension or fine for Chara. It was deemed a hockey play that just happened at a very unfortunate spot, but now Quebec is all butthurt and chest puffing, saying plays like this should and could be prosecuted if they happen there.

[Flexin]

To me it looked dirty. If you watch it slow he seems to look at the bench. So he knows where he is. He pushed him over the boards into it. I don't think he was trying to kill him but a bad choice.

I think someone needs to come up with a better design for the edge of that glass.

James

[Tmall]

To me it looked dirty. If you watch it slow he seems to look at the bench. So he knows where he is. He pushed him over the boards into it. I don't think he was trying to kill him but a bad choice.

I think someone needs to come up with a better design for the edge of that glass.

James

He followed through on his check. No more, no less.

[Porkchop]

He followed through on his check. No more, no less.

Yea, he folowed through on a check... well after the puck was gone. I'm all for enforcement. Im all for open ice checks. Following through on a check in that area is just wreckless. Chara knew exactly what the fuck he was doing....

[Tmall]

Yea, he folowed through on a check... well after the puck was gone. I'm all for enforcement. Im all for open ice checks. Following through on a check in that area is just wreckless. Chara knew exactly what the fuck he was doing....

With all due respect. BULLSHIT!

He's a fucking monster of a man. Who has never done anything like this before. The NHL agrees. All my hockey playing buddy's agree. It was unfortunate, but it was not a dirty hit. If Chara had been hit in the same manner, it likely would not have happened the way it did due to the size differential.

If you really want to play the blame game, why is there a solid post in the middle of a full contact playing area? Why do the nets break away but there's a solid stanchion in an area where hits occur all of the time?

The only people I see making a deal of this are Hab's fans and people who do not like how rough hockey is.

Edit: So you're saying an interference call would have been in order?

[tommymac]

With all due respect. BULLSHIT!

He's a fucking monster of a man. Who has never done anything like this before. The NHL agrees. All my hockey playing buddy's agree. It was unfortunate, but it was not a dirty hit. If Chara had been hit in the same manner, it likely would not have happened the way it did due to the size differential.

If you really want to play the blame game, why is there a solid post in the middle of a full contact playing area? Why do the nets break away but there's a solid stanchion in an area where hits occur all of the time?

The only people I see making a deal of this are Hab's fans and people who do not like how rough hockey is.

Edit: So you're saying an interference call would have been in order?

I think the fact that he got hurt so badly forced the refs to call something. A few other guys have been hit in the same area so I think the arenas need to come up with something better.

I think the other thing is Chara is not known as a dirty player, had this been a pest or enforcer type player I think there would have been suspensions.

[TommyHotWheel]

The puck was gone from Pac's possession long enough that the contact is considered interference. The call was made on the ice and he was given 5 mins and a game misconduct for the infraction leading to an injury. That was entirely the correct call. If you watch in real time you can see that the only reason Pac hit the stachion was the speed they were skating, lead to momentum carrying them to the area where they hit, I have even seen that someone(not sure who...maybe Pac?) saying that Chara even had his hand on his face, which would kind of tell me he didnt push his head into it like people are saying.

[Porkchop]

With all due respect. BULLSHIT!

He's a fucking monster of a man. Who has never done anything like this before. The NHL agrees. All my hockey playing buddy's agree. It was unfortunate, but it was not a dirty hit. If Chara had been hit in the same manner, it likely would not have happened the way it did due to the size differential.

If you really want to play the blame game, why is there a solid post in the middle of a full contact playing area? Why do the nets break away but there's a solid stanchion in an area where hits occur all of the time?

The only people I see making a deal of this are Hab's fans and people who do not like how rough hockey is.

Edit: So you're saying an interference call would have been in order?

No, I'm saying this as a player who has been put in that position. Yes its retarded that there is a right angle right off the playing field. But there is a wall in baseball, and a post in football. Yes he should have been called for the interference, and I TOTALLY get that shit happens. But yet again, it was uncalled for in that area, and at that angle.

[Tmall]

No, I'm saying this as a player who has been put in that position. Yes its retarded that there is a right angle right off the playing field. But there is a wall in baseball, and a post in football. Yes he should have been called for the interference, and I TOTALLY get that shit happens. But yet again, it was uncalled for in that area, and at that angle.

Apples to oranges. Baseball is non-contact and football has padding on their posts and there are only two of them.

At that angle? This makes no sense. It's a body check, if you're thinking about angles you need to get your head in the game. The only thing you should be thinking is not hitting him from behind.

I get the interference call. I get the game misconduct because he broke a rule and injured somebody. But, that's it. There's nothing more to it.

Worse accidents have happened needlessly. Clint Malarchuk ring a bell? He was bleeding like a stuck pig because somebody didn't control where their skate was. Can you even name who cut his throat by mistake? Most people couldn't if their life depended on it, because it was an accident. Yet, if it happened today I bet people would be calling for the offending player to be banned for life because he was too close to the goalies crease.

People need to realize, this is hockey. Man up and play the game.

[Porkchop]

Apples to oranges. Baseball is non-contact and football has padding on their posts and there are only two of them.

At that angle? This makes no sense. It's a body check, if you're thinking about angles you need to get your head in the game. The only thing you should be thinking is not hitting him from behind.

I get the interference call. I get the game misconduct because he broke a rule and injured somebody. But, that's it. There's nothing more to it.

Worse accidents have happened needlessly. Clint Malarchuk ring a bell? He was bleeding like a stuck pig because somebody didn't control where their skate was. Can you even name who cut his throat by mistake? Most people couldn't if their life depended on it, because it was an accident. Yet, if it happened today I bet people would be calling for the offending player to be banned for life because he was too close to the goalies crease.

People need to realize, this is hockey. Man up and play the game.

Where have I said anything against the physicality of the game. Love it, dont want it to change. But yet again, you dont feel strongly about something until it actually happens to you. When you go in at the same angle, rip your shoulder, get lifted back off your skates, smack the back of your head on the top of the board, and then fall flat on you back to the ice. Out for 3 weeks with a concussion and a shoulder injury. Changes attitudes a little....

I was fine with the hit until the shot after 1:35. Thats where it really shows the intent. Even one of the announcers mentioned that the two players have a history.

Easy, watched that youtube video a gazillion times. Just think OCC. :wink:

Can you name Zedniks cutter? :lol:

[TommyHotWheel]

Arguing intent is kinda pointless cuz unless he says it, we will never know what Chara is thinking and that hit happens a lot more than you think. I dont see Chara trying to injure a guy because of one game, that was the history I believe they are talking about. The game was out of reach scoring wise and Pac was going after guys, and the Bruins were frustrated and pissed off, but I dont see Chara trying to hurt a guy, he has no history.The only reason its a big deal is because of the injury. If you want to see real intent to injure, look up Dale Hunter intent to injure on youtube. If you really watch that hit, Chara's arm never leaves Max's shoulder, thats clean. The hit started at about 3/4s of the way down the bench, momentum carried them down and into the glass.

[EpyonXero]

Without fighting, nobody would watch it.......that's the only reason they allow it.

Meanwhile they fine a football player for simply saluting the crowd......Total bs

Exactly. People complain about NBA and NFL players but hockey players are a bunch of thugs.

The NHL better get their shit together and establish some order before all of their star players are out of the league with brain damage.

[TommyHotWheel]

Exactly. People complain about NBA and NFL players but hockey players are a bunch of thugs.

The NHL better get their shit together and establish some order before all of their star players are out of the league with brain damage.

Thugs? Do you watch hockey? The only reason people see thuggish behavior is because of stories blown out of proportion or piss poor journalism trying to make something out of a common occurrance. For the most part hockey has become a highly skilled and exciting sport with players like Crosby, Malkin, Datsyuk, Ovechkin, Lidstrom, Tavares, and Stamkos. Guys who play, not fight or mug it up. You will see fights every so often...its part of the game we love, but things like the Islander/Penguin game or Gillies a few nights ago are rare. The real problem in the eyes of the fans is officiating. If the refs called the game fairly and called penaties like they are cited in the rules...not trying to make the outcome of the game more exciting or favored towards some teams, it would be a level playing field and goons would be relegated to having to play a skilled game. Look at teams like Phoenix, Detroit, Los Angeles, Chicago...all skilled, exciting teams that you dont see fighting much but are as exciting to watch as anything.

[Apoc]

Exactly. People complain about NBA and NFL players but hockey players are a bunch of thugs.

The NHL better get their shit together and establish some order before all of their star players are out of the league with brain damage.



Never watched hockey, did you? Its pretty clear from comments like this.

It has nothing to do with order. Its a rough, contact sport. And its extremely fast paced. The only people in the wrong for that hit were the engineers who designed the arena and put a solid, 90 degree wall along the boards.

It has nothing to do with thugs. Chara hit him clean, and the man got hurt badly. Does it suck? Sure does. Even Chara called to pacioretti and apologized, and even Paciorretti came out and said Chara did nothing wrong, and it was an accident, period.

As far as 'without fighting, nobody would watch', that too is bullshit. It may be true in southern USA football country, but up in Northern USA and Canada, its a beloved sport, not because of violence, but because of the skill, speed, strength and endurance it takes to play the game.

Shit happens. You guys are as bad as the bleeding heart crybaby's up here who want to ban any form of contact from the game.