New job at a dealership!

[Porkchop]

So I may have locked down my first "big boy" job out of school, seeing that I have 2 classes left for graduation. It just so happens to be at a motorcycle dealership too. And its NOT vehicle sales!!!! I consider it a good starting point, and a step in the right direction, considering the current job market.

The job is a finance department manager. Part of his email says. "The daily duties will include the selling and presentation of company back end products (financing, service-contracts, maintenance agreements, etc.), obtaining and managing financing of vehicles, processing of vehicle purchase documents and title work, administration and maintenance of vendor relationship for all back-end products. The finance associate is also responsible for keeping track of data related to KPIs and reporting on weekly, monthly and annually."

Base salary is meh, but it also includes graduated compensation, which bumps it to a good number for a young person. So yet again, it is a good starting point. Best plus.... after 3 months you get bike purchase assistance and dealer discounts. Can you say newer SS??? :rockwoot: Hot season (Mar-Aug) is 50 hours a week, Sep-Feb is 40 hrs a week.


Anybody work at a dealer before? Anybody work in dealer finance? Any advice or comments on the job?

[Particle Man]

Hey, congrats!

[Trip]

Run, seems like dealers go through employees like hot cakes around here. They regularly fire off the whole staff and replace everyone.

Congrats though, good experience builder.

[Tsunami]

No comments on experience but congrats!!

[Cutty72]

No experience with a bike dealer, but I worked at a car dealership.
It was a good experience, got to see the "other side" of it. Depending on how the dealership runs, you will either find out that all the "stealership" comments are just a stereotype, or find that they are true for your new place of employment.

I hope that it is a place that does it's best to make the customer happy, and I hope it makes you happy!

[derf]

Wow, you are the asshole that I hate that wants to sell me a ton of crappy useless warenties.

Worked at a car dealership a while back was a fairly good experience

[ericr]

Yeah, 2 1/2 yrs until mid Dec last year...unless it's a huge and constanyle busy dealership, you will make no more than you base salary and they will let you go if you don't sell "enough" backend to suit them, wether or not anyone could sell it to the same given customers. The market (due to the economy) is too dead to expect all the commission they're telling you you can make, I heard the same thing in 08 before the banks crashed. :D Do I sound jaded? :lol: Unfortunately that really is pretty much the way 98% of the dealerships out there are run. If you find one of the 2%, that's awesome and you'll have a blast and maybe make decent money. Too many of the dealers are taking on "car sales" tactics and they don't realize that doesn't work in the powersports industry except in rare cases, but that's all they want to look at. Every dealership in my area is a revolving door of employees, either quit or fired. My best piecec of advice...start looking for your next job now, but try to enjoy what you can out of your experiance while you're there. Good luck!!

[Rangerscott]

Are you going to be the one to give out the free rim jobs with every moto sale?

[101lifts2]

How much we talkin here? I think they fire the higher paid employees so they can hire the fresh outta school people for cheap.

Alot of motorcycle dealers closed...and people still are really not buying shit anymore.

Good luck.

[Fleck750]

Have worked at 3 dealerships. Good luck to you, you'll see the bike riders in a whole new light. And the best part of the job is watching the newbies ride the bike you just sold them out of the lot.

[dReWpY]

i used to work at Honda of Troy/ Yamaha of Troy when we had Chad Reed and I was racing quads and hanging out with the race team, it was a blast.

I can say that at the time the people in finance made ridiculous bank, but that was at one of the largest dealers at the time...

[Porkchop]

Yeah, 2 1/2 yrs until mid Dec last year...unless it's a huge and constanyle busy dealership, you will make no more than you base salary and they will let you go if you don't sell "enough" backend to suit them, wether or not anyone could sell it to the same given customers. The market (due to the economy) is too dead to expect all the commission they're telling you you can make, I heard the same thing in 08 before the banks crashed. :D Do I sound jaded? :lol: Unfortunately that really is pretty much the way 98% of the dealerships out there are run. If you find one of the 2%, that's awesome and you'll have a blast and maybe make decent money. Too many of the dealers are taking on "car sales" tactics and they don't realize that doesn't work in the powersports industry except in rare cases, but that's all they want to look at. Every dealership in my area is a revolving door of employees, either quit or fired. My best piecec of advice...start looking for your next job now, but try to enjoy what you can out of your experiance while you're there. Good luck!!

Not a huge dealer, its their third location. One is a salvage dealer. Ever heard of Cycle Search on the internet. That's them.

Are you going to be the one to give out the free rim jobs with every moto sale?

No, just bike stickers and kick stand thingies. Might consider if its a hottie that wants a bike tho... :lol

How much we talkin here? I think they fire the higher paid employees so they can hire the fresh outta school people for cheap.

Alot of motorcycle dealers closed...and people still are really not buying shit anymore.

Good luck.

Not alot. Like 22-25K base. But dude im only making 8.40 an hour as a keyholding manager at Casual Male XL in my 3rd year. Im the hardest working assistant in the columbus area, travel between 5 stores (with keys to all of them), and get paid shit. Im just tired of working for nothing.

[dReWpY]

22k-25k base isnt bad for OH nowadays.... just saying...

[wildchild]

congrats on the job. if nothing else at least you get to work around bikes. 22-25 isn't bad for starting out.

[shmike]

I can say that at the time the people in finance made ridiculous bank, but that was at one of the largest dealers at the time...

Yep.

In a good dealer the F&I guys can make more than anybody else in the entire dealer (including the GM).

Congrats on the job, Porkchop. Plan your living expenses on your base salary and bank any commissions, and you'll be set! :dthumb:

[AquaPython]

welcome to the rat race!

[Porkchop]

Wow, I completely forgot about this thread. So..... I turned the job down. Just was a little uneasy about how new and small the dealership was. Me and my mom clashed about it a bit, but she was worried about slow times. So I waited a bit, and I'm glad I did. But now I'm in a perdiciment because I got 2 job offers within 2 days. :lol:

The first job is a real estate management position. I'd be in control of 57 properties currently... with the plan to go larger scale down the road with rental properties in florida, and large scale apartment complexes. It's an independant position, so I'd have my own office in my own building, calling the shots. Pay right off the bat is fanfuckingtastic, especially for a 22 yr old. Medical insurance and such. The best part is this job is guarenteed, and the big boss is my dad's best friend, who I consider my mentor.

The second job is part of my dream job. Its an agent position at one of the premeir talent agencies in ohio. Initial thoughts were I'd have to move to Cinci, but I just found out its the Columbus agent thats leaving. Perks include company phone, company laptop, my own office, free screening to every movie before it comes out to the general public, free access to concerts and shows, and rich clients that will give you cool shit. :lol: Trips to NY and LA for movie red carpet movie premeirs. And you get to work with alot of powerful famous people. Office hours are only 10:30-5, but you have to be on call at all times. The only problem is starting pay sucks until you become established with a client list. The big boss figured only $11-12 a hour the first year, which completely blows.

So do I take the solid deal with the big bucks? Or do I take the dream job with all the perks, and the money later on??? :idk:

[101lifts2]

^^^Date the women with the biggest tits if you know what I mean.

[TYEster]

Glad I reread this thread, I was thinking of applying at a dealership not far from here because I hate my current job.

Selling bikes won't be any harder than selling liquid gold. But it's pretty stable where I'm at and no money means no riding if they let me go within months.

[AquaPython]

I have been in your "predicament" twice in the last 6 months. Or maybe it was a little different. Did they both actually offer the job or are you still in the interviewing process that just seems promising?

[OneSickPsycho]

Wow, I completely forgot about this thread. So..... I turned the job down. Just was a little uneasy about how new and small the dealership was. Me and my mom clashed about it a bit, but she was worried about slow times. So I waited a bit, and I'm glad I did. But now I'm in a perdiciment because I got 2 job offers within 2 days. :lol:

The first job is a real estate management position. I'd be in control of 57 properties currently... with the plan to go larger scale down the road with rental properties in florida, and large scale apartment complexes. It's an independant position, so I'd have my own office in my own building, calling the shots. Pay right off the bat is fanfuckingtastic, especially for a 22 yr old. Medical insurance and such. The best part is this job is guarenteed, and the big boss is my dad's best friend, who I consider my mentor.

The second job is part of my dream job. Its an agent position at one of the premeir talent agencies in ohio. Initial thoughts were I'd have to move to Cinci, but I just found out its the Columbus agent thats leaving. Perks include company phone, company laptop, my own office, free screening to every movie before it comes out to the general public, free access to concerts and shows, and rich clients that will give you cool shit. :lol: Trips to NY and LA for movie red carpet movie premeirs. And you get to work with alot of powerful famous people. Office hours are only 10:30-5, but you have to be on call at all times. The only problem is starting pay sucks until you become established with a client list. The big boss figured only $11-12 a hour the first year, which completely blows.

So do I take the solid deal with the big bucks? Or do I take the dream job with all the perks, and the money later on??? :idk:

Take the job that's going to benefit you most in the long run... at 22 you should be building your resume... go for the job that matches what you want to do for the rest of your life (or at least think you want to do)... If it's neither of those, then go for the job that offers the best experience/advancement opportunities to benefit your resume when you go for your dream job...

Just based on life experience your 'dream job' sounds like Cutco knives and Kirby vacuums on the surface... Easy to get in, hard to make work, and huge turnover/burnout factor. That said, some people out there make ridiculous money doing those things, so it can be done. Oh, and if you're making $11-12/hr... You probably won't be working very closely with a ton of rich and powerful people... at least not in any capacity that will benefit you.

However, maybe you'll get to do some casting... as in casting couching...

[Porkchop]

I have been in your "predicament" twice in the last 6 months. Or maybe it was a little different. Did they both actually offer the job or are you still in the interviewing process that just seems promising?

Yea, the first is a solid offer. The other didnt have a money offer per se, but he wants me in next tuesday, wednesday, thursday for casting for the new jack hanna commercials.

Take the job that's going to benefit you most in the long run... at 22 you should be building your resume... go for the job that matches what you want to do for the rest of your life (or at least think you want to do)... If it's neither of those, then go for the job that offers the best experience/advancement opportunities to benefit your resume when you go for your dream job...

Just based on life experience your 'dream job' sounds like Cutco knives and Kirby vacuums on the surface... Easy to get in, hard to make work, and huge turnover/burnout factor. That said, some people out there make ridiculous money doing those things, so it can be done. Oh, and if you're making $11-12/hr... You probably won't be working very closely with a ton of rich and powerful people... at least not in any capacity that will benefit you.

However, maybe you'll get to do some casting... as in casting couching...

I would say quite opposite of that industry. Ungodly hard to get into, hard to gain respect, but easy once you get it down. There is a HUGE burnout factor in LA, i dont think so much around here. Its alot more laid back. That money is based on taking over and possibly losing the Columbus client list that is used to the previous girl. He was truthful that you have to be great at what you do to cash in. His office does reresent famous actors from LA. The new Cooney movie that was shot in Oxford Ohio, used his agency to read Ryan Gosling and Paul Giamotti for the movie. So yes, you get paid off of some famous people.

:lol: casting couching....

[AquaPython]

then don't wait, take the job you got the offer on, and then think about, should you get the other offer, then and only then, which should you take? If you need to, be ready to say "sorry tough shit" to the first one. your dad's BFF will understand.

[Homeslice]

Your dad's friend will always be around. Take the other job.

[wildchild]

i have two relatives in property management. large big money at one of them and very large grandious money at the other........

take the agent job you want. the money may not be there right now but you will grow in the position and you won't feel like someone's b#$ch later.

always choose something you're interested in over something that pays better. if you like it, and you're good at it, the money will come.

[Tsunami]

Will the 2nd job be commissioned based on top of the hourly?

Will you be managing local talent as well? And have you seen some of the portfolios of the girls you will be representing as well as a local client list?

[Porkchop]

Will the 2nd job be commissioned based on top of the hourly?

Will you be managing local talent as well? And have you seen some of the portfolios of the girls you will be representing as well as a local client list?

All I know right now is it is AFTRA union. You would make 10% off of every deal. Not sure if/what base pay would be. All he said is he would "estimate" i would be about 10-11 an hour the first year. Not shit considering I'm looking at almost 30 an hour with the other.

Yes I will be managing local talent, and working to book for local corporations. I have not seen any of the talent as I have not met the Columbus agent yet, but I would be completely taking over the client list of said Columbus agent. Sure, some of the talent might bolt to another agency, but my client list wouldnt be empty

[racedoll]

Go with your gut. The initial gut feeling.

[Tsunami]

Yes I will be managing local talent, and working to book for local corporations. I have not seen any of the talent as I have not met the Columbus agent yet, but I would be completely taking over the client list of said Columbus agent. Sure, some of the talent might bolt to another agency, but my client list wouldnt be empty

Models would usually be signed with a few agencies so you should be good there, no reason for them to bolt.

Also ask if they expect you to push the models or new talent into getting new pics taken and if they have to use the agency's photographer. There are a lot of agencies that are scams out there and that is how they make their money. They sell portofolio services or classes but really don't get them any jobs. Is there a website that you can check out the girls? I would look at what models you have to work with and see if their pics look professional.

Can you live off that hourly rate he quoted? If there is no base pay and its all commissioned based then you have to figure in that there may be times when you don't get paid. If you can deal with that then go with what you think will make you happier. :)