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Gas Man
04-04-2011, 06:15 PM
Exclusive. Big Dog Motorcycles Closing at Cyril Huze Blog ? Custom Motorcycle News (http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/04/04/exclusive-big-dog-motorcycles-has-closed/)


Another very sad day in the motorcycle industry. Last week I was informed that Big Dog Motorcycles laid off or furloughed a few more workers and that the company would probably close its doors in the next few days. This morning, Big Dog Motorcycles started to call its remaining dealers to inform them that they are done…Big Dog main lender would have already taken over the company. Practically it means that all Big Dog warranties have stopped. Big Dog Motorcycles, LLC, started production in 1994 and it is estimated that since then it has built over 25,000 motorcycles, becoming at one time the world’s largest manufacturer of custom motorcycles. The company surfed the booming years of the motorcycle industry by providing an entire line of chopper motorcycles using S&S engines, 6-speed transmissions, stretched one-piece steel tank, super fat tires, chrome components, steel fenders, and an extensive variety of custom paint colors and graphics. All models were designed and manufactured at the company’s headquarters in Wichita, Kansas.


Since 2006, like many companies in the motorcycle industry, Big Dog Motorcycles was struggling to adapt to new economic realities. President Sheldon Coleman tried different approaches, shrinking the number of employees by laying off employees or ordering furloughs, trying without success to sell out his business or to find a financial partner, launching a more reasonable priced bare-bone chopper, adapting by proposing a new bagger model, courting the Canadian and European markets, even recently trying to sell rolling chassis on eBay. It was not enough or too late. The disappearance of Big Dog Motorcycles after many of his competitors is the symbol of the end of an era that many call “The Chopper Craze”. Big Dog Motorcycles now belong to its bank. So, what’s next? Sheldon Coleman is probably going to try to achieve a new business plan that others in the same situation have tried before him. Launching a new company (for ex. Big Dog Parts) providing to actual owners of Big Dog motorcycles the parts they need to maintain their bikes on the road. For this, Coleman would have first to get from his company ‘s main lender the stock of parts that he has used as collateral for loans. Coleman owns the building across from the current headquarter, ready to be used as a base for such a new business. Manufacturing of new parts would follow, which is good news for all Big Dog riders who want to continue to enjoy their bikes. A core of Big Dog motorcycles remaining employees will probably be re-hired in the new business (to follow…)

A sad day....

tommymac
04-04-2011, 06:28 PM
Between the economy and I think the custom cruiser/chopper thing has more or less run its course. Sucks for the workers though.

Gas Man
04-04-2011, 06:57 PM
Exactly. And some of the workers were in the dark. The receptionist was denying it on the phone to customers stating "well I'm here so we aren't". Talk about disrespect to your employees.

Trip
04-04-2011, 07:02 PM
It was a fad, it will come back again, but it isn't a realistic business in a hard economy. A motorcycle that isn't comfortable to ride and all you can do is look at when you go to the bar is a bad decision in tight times.

tommymac
04-04-2011, 07:11 PM
It was a fad, it will come back again, but it isn't a realistic business in a hard economy. A motorcycle that isn't comfortable to ride and all you can do is look at when you go to the bar is a bad decision in tight times.

agreed, considerin the economy has been "down" for a few years now I am surprised it took this long.

Its like seeing the occ episodes, who in htese times wants to pay upwards of 100k for thier POS bikes. Seems like now theyre probably getting by on the tv show and not bike/merch sales.

KSGregman
04-04-2011, 07:13 PM
I live in Wichita....they jumped the shark a LONG time ago.

Everyone I know who has one HATES it.....their transmissions are SHIT. I know one guy who had his bike in for transmission work three times in one riding season. We were on a poker run....wwwwwaaaaayyyyyy out in BFE...and the transmission was locked in 2nd gear. To say he was PISSED would be a monumental understatement.

He FILLED the "downtown" area of that little town with profanity....mad, mad MAD. :lmao:

Gas Man
04-04-2011, 08:03 PM
It was a fad, it will come back again, but it isn't a realistic business in a hard economy. A motorcycle that isn't comfortable to ride and all you can do is look at when you go to the bar is a bad decision in tight times.

Correct on your first part.

Second part...Oh you've rode one? Hmm... they aren't that uncomfortable. Nothing like they look like. HONEST!

I live in Wichita....they jumped the shark a LONG time ago.

Everyone I know who has one HATES it.....their transmissions are SHIT. I know one guy who had his bike in for transmission work three times in one riding season. We were on a poker run....wwwwwaaaaayyyyyy out in BFE...and the transmission was locked in 2nd gear. To say he was PISSED would be a monumental understatement.

He FILLED the "downtown" area of that little town with profanity....mad, mad MAD. :lmao:

Well the problem they had with transmissions is they told Baker how to make their proprietary trans for them. They did the same thing to S&S on the motors and at one point actually mounted TP rocker boxes on the S&S motors because "bdm knew better".

The transmissions built to BDM spec had major problems with input shafts breaking.

The motors with TP rockers boxes were eating valve guides due to bad geometry from the mix/match parts.

Then they had problems with their electronics. A bolt shaker bike shouldn't have a computer on it. PERIOD.

Beyond that you could replace key parts and get a good bike. They are leaps better than any of the American Iron Horse bikes I've seen and worked on. They also went belly up.

Trip
04-04-2011, 08:05 PM
Oh you've rode one? Hmm... they aren't that uncomfortable. Nothing like they look like. HONEST!

I was talking about choppers in general. You know it was not a good ride for long distances. It was a pretty pretty princess bike. More looks than function. The fad you guys are on has definitely taken a turn to a more comfortable long distance ride. Even you have followed this trend. Just like I followed the DS trend that went on in my area.

azoomm
04-04-2011, 08:06 PM
Exactly. And some of the workers were in the dark. The receptionist was denying it on the phone to customers stating "well I'm here so we aren't". Talk about disrespect to your employees.

There are some business decisions that aren't about employees. Closing the doors is sometimes one of them. It isn't done to be disrespectful to them - I'm quite sure the owners hearts are broken more by their dreams being shut down.

Bummer that another small company bit the dust.

tallywacker
04-04-2011, 08:11 PM
A fad that is passed, that's all.

Gas Man
04-04-2011, 08:33 PM
I was talking about choppers in general. You know it was not a good ride for long distances. It was a pretty pretty princess bike. More looks than function. The fad you guys are on has definitely taken a turn to a more comfortable long distance ride. Even you have followed this trend. Just like I followed the DS trend that went on in my area.

I know... I'm just saying. I've rode many other bikes way less comfortable. And I know you and I while on different roads chose the same idea.

There are some business decisions that aren't about employees. Closing the doors is sometimes one of them. It isn't done to be disrespectful to them - I'm quite sure the owners hearts are broken more by their dreams being shut down.

Bummer that another small company bit the dust.

But Sheldon wouldn't even make an official release even though he was asked directly by Cyril (respectable news format). He tells many dealerships that yes they are bankrupt but not his own receptionist. That's disrespectful.

Gas Man
04-04-2011, 09:26 PM
http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/LATEST+NEWS/Big-Dog-Motorcycles-to-close-after-bank-takes-over/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/714882?contextCategoryId=48447

It pays to know the proper people. Wrote by Cyril for DealerNews.

Trip
04-04-2011, 09:31 PM
I know... I'm just saying. I've rode many other bikes way less comfortable. And I know you and I while on different roads chose the same idea.

I can think of a a few, I miss my CBR sometimes, but would not want to give up the comfort of the GS. LOL

KSGregman
04-05-2011, 09:29 AM
From the Wichita Eagle this morning....

http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/04/1792869/big-dog-motorcycles-lays-off-more.html#

goof2
04-05-2011, 10:11 AM
Was it Big Dog or American Iron Horse who had a bunch of frames cracking? I want to say AIH but I'm not sure.

derf
04-05-2011, 10:15 AM
I keep thinking the thread is titled bdsm

goof2
04-05-2011, 02:32 PM
I keep thinking the thread is titled bdsm

That never closes or goes out of business.:boobs:

dReWpY
04-05-2011, 05:51 PM
I heard gasmans safe word was "Big Dog"

Dave
04-05-2011, 06:11 PM
I heard gasmans safe word was "Big Dog"

I heard his ballgag was official HD apparel

derf
04-05-2011, 06:38 PM
I heard his ballgag was official HD apparel

Actually it says S & S & M

Gas Man
04-05-2011, 11:34 PM
The witchita paper interview was done last week but not released till monday. So if was false before the ink was even dry.

Big bear choppers of washington had the cracking frames as well as red neck choppers and suzuki.

KSGregman
04-08-2011, 09:34 AM
http://www.kansas.com/2011/04/08/1798851/big-dog-motorcycles-is-no-more.html#

Didn't think much of their bikes....but....the Tornado Rally was wicked killah. too bad the City of Wichita took the piss and shut it down.

Gas Man
04-09-2011, 08:29 AM
Well at least Baker is stepping up to make their parts available. This is something that many BDM owners have wished for many many many years. Hopefully something that will bring owners back in line to the "true" Baker drivetrain line.
http://www.cyrilhuzeblog.com/2011/04/08/all-big-dog-motorcycles-drivetrain-service-parts-available-directly-from-baker/comment-page-1/#comment-146870

Porkchop
04-11-2011, 11:13 PM
:lol:lmao:

Nice ghost work whoever did that.....