what is it w/ the corner that makes people ride/drive badly

[zlicius]

101 prolly has the best answer

there are vids all over of bikes crashing here, for seems like no reason

now this compilation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1_FaZqW5pw&feature=player_embedded

[Papa_Complex]

How about an unexpectedly tight corner, which people don't know how to deal with in the first place, coupled with the massive distraction of a couple of dozen people with cameras in the inside of it? Looks like there's a camber change, in the second, half too.

[derf]

naw, thats mulholland drive, its just like deals gap, people come from far and wide to prove that they are better than everyone else. They know that the road is fairly challenging, has lots of twists and turns (all very straight forward, no major camber changes, no changes in the turn mid corner or anything like that). The camera guys, along with the crowd are regular daily occurances there.

This particular video just highlights some assholes and folks who write checks their bodies (and vehicles) cant handle. The first 3 cars up to the lambo just drive stupid. Then the subie and the 5 series just over drive their abilities and their cars. And the rest of the video switched back and forth between the two.

What I think it comes down to is that this guy is doing the same thing that Killboy does, highlight people who make his road unsafe in the hopes that others dont follow.

[dubbs]

There are a ton of people inside that turn.. I think they are causing a pretty damn big distraction, which then of course makes people try to show off / get nervous mid turn..

[the chi]

Wow, buncha shitty driving...it does remind me of Deals Gap, and all the tin canners that think they can drive. :lol:

[Particle Man]

There are a ton of people inside that turn.. I think they are causing a pretty damn big distraction, which then of course makes people try to show off / get nervous mid turn..

It's fairly well known though. Most of the people that make the trip to drive that road have to expect the huge number of people watching.

[Rangerscott]

There was a guy taking pics when we were in Arkansas when we went over the mountain on highway 23. There's two 3 mile sections of tight turns. I did get a quick flash of nerves when I saw him.

[Homeslice]

Most of those bystanders are just hoping to spot Jay Leno or some other celeb. It goes along with their trip up Beverly Hills to ogle at the homes.

And I love the "race lines" some people are taking. I thought the point of driving a mountain road was to take turns.......yet these idiots are straight-lining them.........retarded.

[101lifts2]

Yeah Mullholland Drive...there are three factors..

1. The crowd is drawing the attention away from the road.
2. You drive faster to impress the crowd..lol common sense. hahaha
3. The road is very tight...I've only ridden that road 2x and doing 45mph is not all that easy. It is too tight for me and there are many blind driveways..not to mention squids galore and cops all the time. There are much better roads to ride.

[derf]

Yeah Mullholland Drive...there are two factors..

2. The road is very tight...I've only ridden that road 2x and doing 45mph is not all that easy. It is too tight for me and there are many blind driveways..not to mention squids galore and cops all the time. There are much better roads to ride.

tuna canyon rd
topanga rd
puma rd
tempestcal rd

basically any back roads in the state parks northwest of LA and south of the san fernando valley. Those are the only really good roads Ive been on in that area.

[101lifts2]

tuna canyon rd
topanga rd
puma rd
tempestcal rd

basically any back roads in the state parks northwest of LA and south of the san fernando valley. Those are the only really good roads Ive been on in that area.

Topanga is good...but it is usually cold over there.

There are a ton...GMR, ACH, Ortega, Julian, Palm Desert etc. etc. Those are usually better because cops LOVE to hide up in the northern LA areas.

[derf]

I was taken on a tour by some folks that live in van nuyes, it was just follow the leader, you are the dope on the rope of a day

[Fleck750]

There was a guy taking pics when we were in Arkansas when we went over the mountain on highway 23. There's two 3 mile sections of tight turns. I did get a quick flash of nerves when I saw him.
Pig trail is awesome!!! :D

[marko138]

I think all the people standing there should STFU and get to steppin. Fuck that bullshit. And fuck those people.


The drivers suck but the fucking butt lickers yelling at everyone sure as shit don't help.

[derf]

I think all the people standing there should STFU and get to steppin. Fuck that bullshit. And fuck those people.


The drivers suck but the fucking butt lickers yelling at everyone sure as shit don't help.

Totally dissagree with your assessment. Those people are up there, deal with it. Its the same as anyone on any corner or other cars driving in traffic watching a bike go by and yelling something, taking pictures.

Many people who go up there drive faster than what is legal, that is their choice, they need to accept responsibility for it, they also need to be prepared that anything can happen to you when you ride. And even more so when riding at their limits, including being yelled at or photographed. If they cant pay attention to the road ahead of them then they have no bussiness being on the road in the first place.

[azoomm]

Totally dissagree with your assessment. Those people are up there, deal with it. Its the same as anyone on any corner or other cars driving in traffic watching a bike go by and yelling something, taking pictures.

Many people who go up there drive faster than what is legal, that is their choice, they need to accept responsibility for it, they also need to be prepared that anything can happen to you when you ride. And even more so when riding at their limits, including being yelled at or photographed. If they cant pay attention to the road ahead of them then they have no bussiness being on the road in the first place.


Right.

Though, I will tell you this, there is no way in hell I would stop up there and expect to not have my shit destroyed by a vehicle tripping through a corner. After some of the stuff I've seen at the track I have come to understand that cars defy the laws of physics when punting a corner. With their additional contact points compared to motorcycles they lose it in unpredictable directions whereas motorcycles are somewhat predictable where they will end up.

You want to stand in a corner on a volatile road and yell at people driving by? That's fine. But, THEY need to assume some of the responsibility when something punts their direction as well.

[wildchild]

Right.

Though, I will tell you this, there is no way in hell I would stop up there and expect to not have my shit destroyed by a vehicle tripping through a corner. After some of the stuff I've seen at the track I have come to understand that cars defy the laws of physics when punting a corner. With their additional contact points compared to motorcycles they lose it in unpredictable directions whereas motorcycles are somewhat predictable where they will end up.

You want to stand in a corner on a volatile road and yell at people driving by? That's fine. But, THEY need to assume some of the responsibility when something punts their direction as well.

yep. funny we were 4 wheeling on sport quads. we're not too shabby at speeds. I went around a nice loose sand corner topped out in 4th gear. guy decides to stand on the outside edge of the corner right at the midpoint. yeah looked like a tidal wave of sand going over him. LOL

[shmike]

Totally dissagree with your assessment. Those people are up there, deal with it. Its the same as anyone on any corner or other cars driving in traffic watching a bike go by and yelling something, taking pictures.

Many people who go up there drive faster than what is legal, that is their choice, they need to accept responsibility for it, they also need to be prepared that anything can happen to you when you ride. And even more so when riding at their limits, including being yelled at or photographed. If they cant pay attention to the road ahead of them then they have no bussiness being on the road in the first place.

Right.

Though, I will tell you this, there is no way in hell I would stop up there and expect to not have my shit destroyed by a vehicle tripping through a corner. After some of the stuff I've seen at the track I have come to understand that cars defy the laws of physics when punting a corner. With their additional contact points compared to motorcycles they lose it in unpredictable directions whereas motorcycles are somewhat predictable where they will end up.

You want to stand in a corner on a volatile road and yell at people driving by? That's fine. But, THEY need to assume some of the responsibility when something punts their direction as well.

To add to these guys:

Nobody got yelled at for staying in their lane. Only after the car is already being a fuckwad does anybody yell anything.

It's not like the distraction caused the fuck up, it is quite the opposite.

[marko138]

My point is them yelling at drivers who are already out of control and have life flashing before their eyes sure as hell aren't helping.

[shmike]

My point is them yelling at drivers who are already out of control and have life flashing before their eyes sure as hell aren't helping.


Fuckin' photogs.

[marko138]

Fuckin' photogs.
Srsly.

[Particle Man]

This guy seemed surprised as hell that he hit hard parts

http://www.youtube.com/v/K6XsByRh14I

[shmike]

This guy seemed surprised as hell that he hit hard parts

http://www.youtube.com/v/K6XsByRh14I


That sucks.

The worst was over and then he drove off the road.

Classic case of: "OH SHIT! DON'T GO OVER THERE!" leading to going "over there."

[OneSickPsycho]

I know I about shit my pants the first time I had a peg feeler touch down...

[Particle Man]

I know I about shit my pants the first time I had a peg feeler touch down...

Me too. Followed by a YEEHAAAAW :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

I know I about shit my pants the first time I had a peg feeler touch down...

Damned near ran off the track, the first time I touched a knee down. Then I stopped doing that. Do you know how expensive pucks are?!!

[Gas Man]

I'm with Marko on this one. The cops should just go up there and kick all those people out of there. If they don't leave... ticket them. They are the worst distraction out of all of it. Loitering.

[Tmall]

I'm with Marko on this one. The cops should just go up there and kick all those people out of there. If they don't leave... ticket them. They are the worst distraction out of all of it. Loitering.

Loitering on public land? Never heard of such a thing...

[101lifts2]

I'm with Marko on this one. The cops should just go up there and kick all those people out of there. If they don't leave... ticket them. They are the worst distraction out of all of it. Loitering.

It gives too much power to cops...something I'll never be in favor of.

[derf]

I'm with Marko on this one. The cops should just go up there and kick all those people out of there. If they don't leave... ticket them. They are the worst distraction out of all of it. Loitering.

maybe 101 can correct me, but I believe that the particular corner is set aside as an overlook.

[Gas Man]

I understand and agree 101. But something shud be done before somebody kills somebody.

[Homeslice]

lol.....wannabe baja driver.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpi3u3-8_I0

[Papa_Complex]

This guy seemed surprised as hell that he hit hard parts

http://www.youtube.com/v/K6XsByRh14I

My friends and I generally refer to that sort of thing as "failure to turn." He just gave up on the corner, even after he recovered from his surprise.

[Homeslice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlMbFlPzS24&NR=1

[Papa_Complex]

There were an awful lot of skid marks at that same point, where he started losing the back end.