Wow...Kaneman, don't have an anuerysm

[KSGregman]

I honestly feel guilty for posting this knowing how fired up he's likely to become after reading it. I'm pretty aggravated after reading it and I'm not NEARLY as intense about the subject as he is.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2011/05/16/philly-police-harass-threaten-shoot-man-legally-carrying-gun

[OneSickPsycho]

Fuckin' awesome. Just fuckin' awesome...

[Avatard]

The freedoms. Remember them? You can still read about them in old school books.

It's a shame you can only reflect on them, though.

Ah, the Constitution.

I miss it, and all it stood for...

Sadly, we must speak in the past tense now, I think.

[Particle Man]

What.
The.
Fuck?

[pauldun170]

District Attorney's Office

nuff said

[udman]

Not to make light of this issue, but is anyone else laughing their ass off imagining Kaneman's response while reading this?

[Particle Man]

Not to make light of this issue, but is anyone else laughing their ass off imagining Kaneman's response while reading this?

I would but I have to say my response at the moment is probably similar...

[Homeslice]

What do you expect, it's an east coast big city




...and one that is constantly butt-hurt about riding NYC's coattails, lol....

[derf]

And people wonder why cops have a bad rep

[Rangerscott]

Of course theyre going to charge him. Dont want 100% blame do we?

[zerioustt]

i loath "ambulance" chasing lawyers and what they stand for but heres an instance where i hope he sues the shit out of the city. how the fuck does not only one cop but many not know the laws in their own city/state, i live in nj and knew the law. also police officers are public servants and talk to someone like that? dont get me wrong with all the police shootings i see how they could be tense, but there was a better way to handle it. like detain the guy get his ccw permit, id, and check on the law. nah we will play billy bad ass and treat the guy like a criminal until proven innocent.

[Mikey]

i loath "ambulance" chasing lawyers and what they stand for but heres an instance where i hope he sues the shit out of the city. how the fuck does not only one cop but many not know the laws in their own city/state, i live in nj and knew the law. also police officers are public servants and talk to someone like that? dont get me wrong with all the police shootings i see how they could be tense, but there was a better way to handle it. like detain the guy get his ccw permit, id, and check on the law. nah we will play billy bad ass and treat the guy like a criminal until proven innocent.

The cops, and apparently the DA in this case, are nothing but a bunch of thugs and bullies.

It's not legal to shoot them, so a civil suit is, unfortunately, the only real recourse here. Is it possible to demand the firing with no possibility of re-hire of the individuals involved in this case as a part of the lawsuit? Those police officers clearly have no business with a badge.

[tommymac]

The cops, and apparently the DA in this case, are nothing but a bunch of thugs and bullies.

It's not legal to shoot them, so a civil suit is, unfortunately, the only real recourse here. Is it possible to demand the firing with no possibility of re-hire of the individuals involved in this case as a part of the lawsuit? Those police officers clearly have no business with a badge.

go after their pensions too, they all figure they can do their 20 and retire and live on the city/states dime.

[Avatard]

Mikey, if only their demeanor, attitude, and behavior were unique.

My experience is that far too many with a badge speak and act this way towards the people they are supposed to serve.

Sadly, as apparently the psychological screenings that probably should be in place aren't, my personal experience has been that there is actually a disproportionate number of cops that are in it simply for the power trip.

Power corrupts.

[KSGregman]

Fecking hell....you only THOUGHT the story couldn't get worse.

People obeying the law can "expect to be inconvenienced?!"

Seriously?!

I guess we can strike the Fourth Amendment right out of the Constitution since it no longer seems to apply.

GRRRRRRRR

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/21/altercation-philadelphia-police-say-wont-look-way-open-carry-gun-owners/?intcmp=obnetwork

[OneSickPsycho]

1) I would expect to get inconvenienced... They have to check, they cannot just turn a blind eye... However, laying down on the fucking ground?

2) That guy open carries, and carries around a recorder... just in case? That sounds a bit like he is looking for his 15 minutes... I mean, if the story was that this happened to him before and he decided to carry the recorder then...

It's starting to sound like this guy open carries with the intent to cause a disruption...

[shmike]

1) I would expect to get inconvenienced... They have to check, they cannot just turn a blind eye... However, laying down on the fucking ground?

2) That guy open carries, and carries around a recorder... just in case? That sounds a bit like he is looking for his 15 minutes... I mean, if the story was that this happened to him before and he decided to carry the recorder then...

It's starting to sound like this guy open carries with the intent to cause a disruption...


I kind of agree with #2 but is HAS happened before. Twice, in fact.

From Gregman's article:
The February incident wasn't the first time Philadelphia police officers have confronted Fiorino about his unconcealed gun. Since July, he has been stopped twice and he has had an audio recorder on him each time in case a cop is having a bad day or doesn't understand the law, he said.

His handgun was confiscated once for five months, but neither occasion escalated like the third encounter.

[Kaneman]

Pretty old story, my outrage has passed. :lol:

[KSGregman]

Pretty old story, my outrage has passed. :lol:

Phew....ok....good.

Didn't want to be partially responsible if you stroked right out. :lmao:

[Kaneman]

Phew....ok....good.

Didn't want to be partially responsible if you stroked right out. :lmao:

You know though really at a certain point you just accept that you live in a police state and fully expect things like this to happen on a daily basis. Soon these stories won't even make the wires anymore so you'll never hear about it.

[KSGregman]

You know though really at a certain point you just accept that you live in a police state and fully expect things like this to happen on a daily basis. Soon these stories won't even make the wires anymore so you'll never hear about it.

I thought this very thing....Friday night while pulled over in a DUI checkpoint attempting to leave downtown Wichita.

Pulling over EVERYONE....traffic cones set up and everything...and ticketing anyone who drove outside the cones. I don't drink...I don't smoke...I don't do drugs....I was driving the speed limit...not doing anything wrong. I have no idea how what they had set up there can possibly be "legal"....at least "legal" in the old school, common sense version of the word.

2 cops with flashlights...one on either side of my car...both leaning into the car shining their lights around. All that was missing was them saying "Papers, comrade....." before they allowed me the priveledge of continuing on my way.