View Full Version : I feel like I just watched the OJ verdict
ontwo
07-05-2011, 02:34 PM
Casey Anthony found not guilty :wtf:
KSGregman
07-05-2011, 02:39 PM
I'm ignoring it.
It's either that or fly into an absolute rage.
Innocent.....really?!.....fully acquitted of all charges. SERIOUSLY?!
Fecking hell....unbelievable.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 02:45 PM
I'm ignoring it.
It's either that or fly into an absolute rage.
Innocent.....really?!.....fully acquitted of all charges. SERIOUSLY?!
Fecking hell....unbelievable.
Not of all charges.. she got three or so counts of lying to police...
Two things to remember... 1) we got more info than the jury did... they didn't see all that we did... and 2) people are fucking idiots... Baez used the Cochrin method of just confusing the shit out of the jury and it worked...
From what I hear she could be out by Friday... I would only assume that some nutjob will take care of this chick by Saturday. Insane.
ontwo
07-05-2011, 02:46 PM
Yep, reasonable doubt wins again. Unfuckinbelievable
Prosecution did a shitty job too. The whole trial was a cluster fuck. Not surprised by the verdict.
ontwo
07-05-2011, 02:49 PM
Not of all charges.. she got three or so counts of lying to police...
Two things to remember... 1) we got more info than the jury did... they didn't see all that we did... and 2) people are fucking idiots... Baez used the Cochrin method of just confusing the shit out of the jury and it worked...
From what I hear she could be out by Friday... I would only assume that some nutjob will take care of this chick by Saturday. Insane.
No they won't. Too many pussies in this world. Hell, she'll probably land on a reality show in the future.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 02:51 PM
Prosecution did a shitty job too. The whole trial was a cluster fuck. Not surprised by the verdict.
Funny, everything I've heard said they actually did a pretty good job.
Kaneman
07-05-2011, 02:55 PM
Rubble rubble rubble rubble!!!!!
Particle Man
07-05-2011, 02:55 PM
No they won't. Too many pussies in this world. Hell, she'll probably land on a reality show in the future.
pretty much.
Funny, everything I've heard said they actually did a pretty good job.
Apparently the jury thought different.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Apparently the jury thought different.
Hard to say... They had no verifiable cause of death... everything was circumstantial... and the charges were very specific to their theory... The defenses opening argument could have been enough to provide a reasonable doubt and the charges didn't reflect any other possibilities. If there was any way they failed, it was by going for the murder charges... That said, they didn't have much of a choice other than to go for the murder charges... damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Hard to say... They had no verifiable cause of death... everything was circumstantial... and the charges were very specific to their theory... The defenses opening argument could have been enough to provide a reasonable doubt and the charges didn't reflect any other possibilities. If there was any way they failed, it was by going for the murder charges... That said, they didn't have much of a choice other than to go for the murder charges... damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Well if they can't prove those charges, they should of went for something lesser.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Well if they can't prove those charges, they should of went for something lesser.
Emotional responses... your gut just tells you that this bitch did it... they SHOULD have gone for something lesser... but... the public would have SKEWERED them if they didn't go for the full gusto... again... damned if you do...
tommymac
07-05-2011, 03:08 PM
Prosecution did a shitty job too. The whole trial was a cluster fuck. Not surprised by the verdict.
People are hopping on the jury are idiots bandwagon. Maybe the police didnt collect adequate evidence or soem wasnt allowed and like trip said the prosecution may not have done a good job.
Now her and the jury will clean up sellin gtheir stories to people magazine or some other rag like that
Sad thing is there is no one to civil sue them to stop them from selling their stories.
Particle Man
07-05-2011, 03:13 PM
People are hopping on the jury are idiots bandwagon. It's always easy to criticize someone from 30,000 feet.
Dumbasses.
shmike
07-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Where you guys actually following the trial? :scratch:
wildchild
07-05-2011, 03:15 PM
my gut agrees she did it but, .i don't think the state proved she did it. if they have no absolute proof, especially in a death sentence case, they should keep digging or look another direction.
i do love the media saying "hope nothing happens" she will be home at $$#$ street" "she can now sell her story, hopefully media won't pay grand sums" they seem to be trying to drum up more stories in the coming weeks.
dj on the radio who mentioned someone burning her house quickly started backpedaling.
tommymac
07-05-2011, 03:17 PM
Where you guys actually following the trial? :scratch:
Nope, I was hoping she was guilty so we wouldnt have to keep hearing about it. She would be sentenced and that would be that. Now its going to linger on and on.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 03:19 PM
Sad thing is there is no one to civil sue them to stop them from selling their stories.
There is actually... well sorta... At least for her, she's got a defamation case pending for some people with the name of the mystery nanny that she said kidnapped the kid. Probably won't fly though...
Where you guys actually following the trial? :scratch:
How can you NOT follow the trial? Fuck me, I've been trying to avoid it like the plague and I'm probably as up to speed as anyone on it... of course, I know quite a few people she knows, that's probably why.
There is actually... well sorta... At least for her, she's got a defamation case pending for some people with the name of the mystery nanny that she said kidnapped the kid. Probably won't fly though...
They can only stop that part of the story.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 03:37 PM
They can only stop that part of the story.
Not even stop it... they could potentially sue her for ANY money she makes off of it...
ontwo
07-05-2011, 03:53 PM
They did go for lesser charges and they acquitted her on abuse and manslaughter.
I can imagine the deliberations. You know there were at least a few in that room saying, "I know she did it, but can I convict her by the letter of the law?" Which brings us back to the defense planted the right seeds of doubt.
tommymac
07-05-2011, 04:02 PM
They did go for lesser charges and they acquitted her on abuse and manslaughter.
I can imagine the deliberations. You know there were at least a few in that room saying, "I know she did it, but can I convict her by the letter of the law?" Which brings us back to the defense planted the right seeds of doubt.
That prety much summs it up, if the defense can cause the slightest element of doubt then you prety much have to let them go.
OneSickPsycho
07-05-2011, 04:04 PM
They did go for lesser charges and they acquitted her on abuse and manslaughter.
I can imagine the deliberations. You know there were at least a few in that room saying, "I know she did it, but can I convict her by the letter of the law?" Which brings us back to the defense planted the right seeds of doubt.
The abuse and manslaughter charges were 'aggravated' charges... In other words, she had to have KNOWINGLY put her child in harm and or allowed her to be murdered... Everything that came from her mouth before the trial and the defense's contention (and testimony) that the girl drowned in the pool effectively cancelled out any sort of 'aggravated' charges.
pauldun170
07-05-2011, 04:23 PM
It is what it is.
The whole concept is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
They did not prove her to be guilty.
I have nothing that could prove her to be guilty.
So be it
Particle Man
07-05-2011, 04:25 PM
That prety much summs it up, if the defense can cause the slightest element of doubt then you prety much have to let them go.
A lot of folks don't understand the concept of "reasonable doubt."
We're too used to making emotional and/or "popular" decisions these days.
101lifts2
07-05-2011, 04:27 PM
If they couldn't figure out how the kid died then they shouldn't have went to court.
101lifts2
07-05-2011, 04:28 PM
It is what it is.
The whole concept is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.
They did not prove her to be guilty.
I have nothing that could prove her to be guilty.
So be it
Agreed.
Particle Man
07-05-2011, 04:29 PM
If they couldn't figure out how the kid died then they shouldn't have went to court.
Yep. They blew their wad too early.
There is actually... well sorta... At least for her, she's got a defamation case pending for some people with the name of the mystery nanny that she said kidnapped the kid. Probably won't fly though...
How can you NOT follow the trial? Fuck me, I've been trying to avoid it like the plague and I'm probably as up to speed as anyone on it... of course, I know quite a few people she knows, that's probably why.
Only heard about it yesterday
tallywacker
07-05-2011, 07:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MH0ef.jpg
Homeslice
07-05-2011, 07:47 PM
Where you guys actually following the trial? :scratch:
For reals.....
I don't even know what Casey Anthony is accused of. Killing her kid or some shit?
Had she actually been attractive, I might have paid attention to the case :lmao:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/707drz/3874d9a8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ad4z4.png
OneSickPsycho
07-06-2011, 08:33 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc303/707drz/3874d9a8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ad4z4.png
:lol
tommymac
07-06-2011, 08:40 AM
And so begins all the photochops. Should outrage all the outraged people even more
acalliste
07-06-2011, 09:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Ad4z4.png
BWahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's awesome. lol
Papa_Complex
07-06-2011, 09:23 AM
I managed to not hear much of anything about this case, as it was going on, so had to do a little research. Can't say I'm very surprised that, in a case in which the prosecution effectively had no evidence against the accused, they failed to obtain a conviction.
To paraphrase the defence just because she's a liar and a slut, that doesn't maker her a murderer too. The prosecution was banking on outrage, to obtain a conviction, rather than evidence.
Should outrage all the outraged people even more
They can hop on their Menstrual Cycle's and ride off into the sunset with the Westboro Baptist church members and all just life happily ever after for all I care :rockwoot:
tommymac
07-06-2011, 09:28 AM
They can hop on their Menstrual Cycle's and ride off into the sunset with the Westboro Baptist church members and all just life happily ever after for all I care :rockwoot:
agreed, doesnt affect my day to dayt activity at all. Hell if I had to actualy do work at my side job I probably wouldnt know ANYTHING about the case aside from soem peoples FB rants.
aside from soem peoples FB rants.
No shit!
I log on at 2:00 to FB to stalk a few hot chicks...I mean...catch up to friends, and updates here and there....dating back to early AM
I log on at 3:30 and have to scroll down 50 pages to get back to 2:00
All because 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty didn't make the call that many of america's daytime couch surfers wanted them to make.
:wtfru:
tommymac
07-06-2011, 09:49 AM
All because 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty didn't make the call that many of america's daytime couch surfers wanted them to make.
:wtfru:
thats the best description I have ever heard :rockwoot:
Particle Man
07-06-2011, 05:28 PM
No shit!
I log on at 2:00 to FB to stalk a few hot chicks...I mean...catch up to friends, and updates here and there....dating back to early AM
I log on at 3:30 and have to scroll down 50 pages to get back to 2:00
All because 12 people too stupid to get out of jury duty didn't make the call that many of america's daytime couch surfers wanted them to make.
:wtfru:
Awesome
tallywacker
07-06-2011, 09:45 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Ato5h.jpg
Homeslice
07-06-2011, 10:16 PM
Nice grammar. What is so hard about using a period or comma instead of blabbing on and on?
acalliste
07-06-2011, 10:26 PM
This case has had the amazing effect of bringing every dumbass in the country out in the open to speak what passes for their minds.
azoomm
07-06-2011, 11:04 PM
To me, it's sad there are so many things worth getting worked up over. Things that directly effect people's lives. But, THIS is what they freak out about? Boo.
acalliste
07-06-2011, 11:24 PM
True! Instead of wasting all this time and energy on something they can't change, they could be out finding ways to help live children who are suffering NOW.
anthonyk
07-07-2011, 01:22 AM
Gives good material for the FB spammers, though. I've already seen one person with some status about signing a petition for "Caylee's Law." Gone now, so I'm guessing it was bogus.
(Real or not, I wasn't about to waste time clicking on it to see wtf it was about.)
tommymac
07-07-2011, 05:58 AM
I wonder what it was about this case that got everyone so fired up. there were a few abuse cases in NYC over the last few years that were much more horrific than this one, where the kids suffered through some horrible abuse befiore dying whereas this one seems to have died rather fast.
Papa_Complex
07-07-2011, 06:32 AM
Just so that you don't feel that the US is the only place with fucked-up verdicts, I give you the Guy Turcotte murder case. He stabbed his children, Oliver age 5 and Anne-Sophie age 3, to death. That was never in dispute. He was found "not criminally responsible", which is our legal way of stating an insanity plea.
http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2011/07/06/18384006.html
tallywacker
07-07-2011, 07:27 AM
Just so that you don't feel that the US is the only place with fucked-up verdicts, I give you the Guy Turcotte murder case. He stabbed his children, Oliver age 5 and Anne-Sophie age 3, to death. That was never in dispute. He was found "not criminally responsible", which is our legal way of stating an insanity plea.
http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2011/07/06/18384006.html
Honestly though, you can't be too mentally stable to stab your children to death
Papa_Complex
07-07-2011, 07:35 AM
Honestly though, you can't be too mentally stable to stab your children to death
These days we are far too quick to assign such things to mental instability, when in the past we would have referred to it as just being fucking evil.
Particle Man
07-07-2011, 11:24 AM
I wonder what it was about this case that got everyone so fired up. there were a few abuse cases in NYC over the last few years that were much more horrific than this one, where the kids suffered through some horrible abuse befiore dying whereas this one seems to have died rather fast.
TV coverage.
NY is televised as a hole where shit like that happens while where this lady was from is supposed to be paradise or some shit.
azoomm
07-07-2011, 11:32 AM
TV coverage.
NY is televised as a hole where shit like that happens while where this lady was from is supposed to be paradise or some shit.
And, they had that angelic picture of the daughter. That shit KILLS in the ratings.
And, they had that angelic picture of the daughter. That shit KILLS in the ratings.
Thats all it is, the story got ratings so they kept it on full time, and it got better ratings so they kept it on
acalliste
07-07-2011, 12:56 PM
Casey's parents are only a few miles from where I live. It is not paradise in this area, believe me. Orlando's east side is one of the worst places in the county to live, it sucks.
I think the reason it has gotten so much attention is that in the beginning the whole community was caught up in what they thought was a missing child case. Lots of people went out to help in the search. Then as the story unraveled, even more people were drawn into it. This case has been major local news for three solid years.
Particle Man
07-07-2011, 01:02 PM
Casey's parents are only a few miles from where I live. It is not paradise in this area, believe me. Orlando's east side is one of the worst places in the county to live, it sucks.
Ask the average Joe in East Bumblefuck Montana and they won't know that, and the media leaves details like that out. They'll think "FL - must be nice there"
Ask 'em about NYC though, and they'll talk about crime and bad shit happening.
OneSickPsycho
07-07-2011, 01:20 PM
Casey's parents are only a few miles from where I live. It is not paradise in this area, believe me. Orlando's east side is one of the worst places in the county to live, it sucks.
I think the reason it has gotten so much attention is that in the beginning the whole community was caught up in what they thought was a missing child case. Lots of people went out to help in the search. Then as the story unraveled, even more people were drawn into it. This case has been major local news for three solid years.
I heard all that BS when I was getting ready to move down here... If you think the east side of Orlando is bad, you haven't seen shit. I wouldn't hesitate to live ANYWHERE on the east side... raise a family, etc (though I've never investigated the schools)...
I know exactly where she lives.... I too, live within a few miles... With the exception of a few neighborhoods on this side of town, they area all straight up middle class... The few 'bad' neighborhoods are lower middle class at worst.
Homeslice
07-07-2011, 01:24 PM
Gives good material for the FB spammers, though. I've already seen one person with some status about signing a petition for "Caylee's Law." Gone now, so I'm guessing it was bogus.
(Real or not, I wasn't about to waste time clicking on it to see wtf it was about.)
Not BS, some politician in Oklahoma is rallying it :skep:
acalliste
07-07-2011, 01:34 PM
I heard all that BS when I was getting ready to move down here... If you think the east side of Orlando is bad, you haven't seen shit. I wouldn't hesitate to live ANYWHERE on the east side... raise a family, etc (though I've never investigated the schools)...
I know exactly where she lives.... I too, live within a few miles... With the exception of a few neighborhoods on this side of town, they area all straight up middle class... The few 'bad' neighborhoods are lower middle class at worst.
Compared to how it used to be, it does suck here. Not as bad as Parramore, but not as nice as other areas. It's ugly, there has been increased gang activity and the schools aren't great. Some places further out aren't bad. Lake Nona for example. But the exec airport to Alafaya & hwy 50 to Hoffner is not a nice area. Not a paradise anyway.
KSGregman
07-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Honestly though, you can't be too mentally stable to stab your children to death
I guess I'm old school but I honestly don't care what stage of "mental stability" someone was in.
To me, there is only one question at play. Is the defendant guilty of the accusation(s) against him or her? Did that person COMMIT THE CRIME THEY ARE ACCUSED OF? If the answer is yes, then punish them according to the law. PERIOD.
All the rest about "mental stability" or "mommy didn't hug them enough" is just a distraction....bullshit....they did it...or they didn't. If they did, punish them and be done with it.
acalliste
07-07-2011, 01:39 PM
All that said, I do prefer living here to places that get buried in snow every year. In that way, I suppose its paradise. :boobs: :D
OneSickPsycho
07-07-2011, 01:51 PM
Compared to how it used to be, it does suck here. Not as bad as Parramore, but not as nice as other areas. It's ugly, there has been increased gang activity and the schools aren't great. Some places further out aren't bad. Lake Nona for example. But the exec airport to Alafaya & hwy 50 to Hoffner is not a nice area. Not a paradise anyway.
I guess your definition of bad and my definition of bad are vastly different. Some neighborhoods aren't as nice as others, but you'll have that anywhere... I'd take the east side of Orlando over the east side of Columbus ANY day...
acalliste
07-07-2011, 02:02 PM
I am only comparing it to other parts of Orange county. Drive down hwy 50 or 436, its just plain ugly and industrial or commercial.
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