Nobody likes your kids...

[azoomm]

Finally, someone is speaking out.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/05/granderson.bratty.kids/index.html


Grand Rapids, Michigan (CNN) -- If you're the kind of parent who allows your 5-year-old to run rampant in public places like restaurants, I have what could be some rather disturbing news for you.

I do not love your child.

The rest of the country does not love your child either.

And the reason why we're staring at you every other bite is not because we're acknowledging some sort of mutual understanding that kids will be kids but rather we want to kill you for letting your brat ruin our dinner.
Or our plane ride.
Or trip to the grocery store.

Or the other adult-oriented establishments you've unilaterally decided will serve as an extension of your toddler's playpen because you lack the fortitude to properly discipline them, in public and at home.

And we know you don't discipline them at home because you don't possess "the look." If you had "the look," you wouldn't need to say "sit down" a thousand times.

If you had "the look," you wouldn't need to say much of anything at all. But this nonverbal cue needs to be introduced early and reinforced diligently with consequences for transgressions, just like potty training. And whenever a kid throws a temper tantrum in the middle of the shopping mall it's just as bad as his soiling his pants to spite his parents, and it stinks just as much.
If you had 'the look,' you wouldn't need to say 'sit down' a thousand times.

I have seen a small child slap her mother in the face with an open hand, only to be met with "Honey, don't hit Mommy." I have seen kids tell their parents "Shut up" and "Leave me alone" at the top of their lungs -- and they are not put in check. I shake my head knowing it's only going to get worse from here.
If I'm sounding a bit judgmental, I assure you I am not alone in my judgment.

Remember that couple that was kicked off an AirTran flight for being unable to control their 3-year-old back in 2007? The child threw a tantrum, refused to get in her seat and delayed the flight by 15 minutes. In a subsequent interview with "Good Morning America," the mother talked about how much more understanding the passengers were compared to the crew that removed the family. That may be true -- but I'm also willing to bet plenty of passengers were happy to have a much quieter flight. An AirTran spokesperson estimated 95% of the 9,000 e-mails the airline received were supportive of taking the family off the plane, according to MSNBC.

Responding to complaints about crying babies keeping people awake, Malaysia Airlines decided to ban infants from first class in some of its flights. I don't know about you but I would gladly support an airline or restaurant that didn't make someone else's yelling, screaming, kicking offspring my problem. And there are kid-free cruises and resorts for a reason.

Children are wonderful but they are not the center of the universe. The sooner their parents make them understand that, the better off we all will be.
This is the part of child-rearing people don't like to discuss, because socially, it's not OK to dislike kids. The ugly truth is it's the spineless parents who parade their undisciplined children around like royalty that make people dislike kids.

Parents who expect complete strangers to just deal with it are not doing anyone, including their children, any favors. They are actually making things worse. Not only are their children allowed to interrupt social events and settings when they are young, but they often grow into disruptive forces in the classrooms later. And nobody likes them for that.

I covered education for years and one of the biggest complaints from teachers was about the amount of time they spent disciplining students. Their threats were empty because parents sided with their kids. And, of course, the use of corporal punishment in the classroom is seriously frowned upon, and even punished.

Spanking is not a cure, and should not be the first resort, but I don't think it should automatically be taken off the table when dealing with small kids. We're so preoccupied with protecting children from disappointment and discomfort that we're inadvertently excusing them from growing up.
A young child slapping his or her parent's hand away in defiance is not cute, it's disrespectful. In my house, growing up, that would have earned much more than "the look" from my mother.

If I sound a bit old-school, I am. If I'm coming across as a bit of an ogre, so be it.

As a parent, I can empathize with how difficult raising children can be. There are challenges, especially within the framework of divorce, when parental guilt can sometimes blur what should be the best decision.

But I don't believe making a child's wishes top priority is a demonstration of love. Nor do I believe I, or the rest of the world, should act as a surrogate parents for somebody's bad-ass kids.

You wanted them, deal with them.

[OneSickPsycho]

The video is fantastic.

[Particle Man]

I'm so sick of spanking being taboo. It shouldn't be the first resort but it only takes once or twice for the message to set in when it's done correctly. I'll add the other side to this: you want me to be an effective parent? Stay the fuck out of it and let me be one. If my methods differ from yours, tough shit.

[derf]

I'm so sick of spanking being taboo. It shouldn't be the first resort but it only takes once or twice for the message to set in when it's done correctly. I'll add the other side to this: you want me to be an effective parent? Stay the fuck out of it and let me be one. If my methods differ from yours, tough shit.

Spoken like a parent who knows whats up

[Archren]

The comments on the article make me laugh. Some people agree... but one of the dissenters apparently lets her kids build forts out of rolls of paper towels in a grocery store. :skep: Seriously? :wtfru:

[Particle Man]

The comments on the article make me laugh. Some people agree... but one of the dissenters apparently lets her kids build forts out of rolls of paper towels in a grocery store. :skep: Seriously? :wtfru:

Yeah, not fucking happening. My kid knows better.

Hell, when I was growing up I didn't even consider something like that - the implied ass beating was enough to keep us from even having the thought cross our minds.

[azoomm]

I recently told a child [in a BAR] to go back to his table. He was allowed to wander through the place to go to the bathroom unattended. He had stopped by our table to ask what a beer tower was. After he yelled at me, that he had asked me a question. My simple reply was "Nobody likes you, go back to your table"

He left. And, his parents magically whisked him away when he went back to the table to complain that I wouldn't answer his question. Yes, we heard him across the room... little fucker. He was about 7. I wanted to cunt-punch his parents.

[KSGregman]

My favorite is the clueless, helpless look shit parents give when their kid(s) act like assholes in public...you know, the "its not my fault!"look...

Hey..dumb Fuck...if its not YOUR fucking fault, who's fault is it?! Sickening to see a supposed adult get bullied by a child. I swear to god there should be some kinda aptitude test before people are allowed to breed.

[skiergirl]

That should be printed and handed out at the hospital when you take your kid home..call it a guidebook on how to not be THAT asshole parent.

[Particle Man]

That should be printed and handed out at the hospital when you take your kid home..call it a guidebook on how to not be THAT asshole parent.

:lol: that would be awesome

[Trip]

You know, even if a kid is well behaved, I still don't want to be around them in an adult place. Keep your little bastards at home. I wish more places would restrict under 21, sometimes under 27.

[askmrjesus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q3U9xZQf4w

JC

[Kaneman]

Violence is the answer.

[VatorMan]

Violence is the answer.

Violence against the parents ? All for it.

[julie j]

My husband had to give “the look” to two kids fighting the other day when their mother was not more than 5 foot away. Why is it my husband’s responsibility to stop your kids from kicking the shit out of each other? I should say that we were in a confined space otherwise my husband would have let them have at it. :lol:

Growing up all my dad had to do was threaten to take off his belt and we straightened right up. I never remember actually getting hit with it.

[Kaneman]

Violence against the parents ? All for it.

Yes, that is one way violence could be very effective in situations where kids are ruining the atmosphere at an adultish establishment.

Or you can start with the kid and finish with the parent.

[tallywacker]

Anti-Discipline culture leads to non-disciplined children. No surprises here.

We to a crab places in florida once and two tables full of brats were fucking up the whole restaurant.

[101lifts2]

I recently told a child [in a BAR] to go back to his table. He was allowed to wander through the place to go to the bathroom unattended. He had stopped by our table to ask what a beer tower was. After he yelled at me, that he had asked me a question. My simple reply was "Nobody likes you, go back to your table"

He left. And, his parents magically whisked him away when he went back to the table to complain that I wouldn't answer his question. Yes, we heard him across the room... little fucker. He was about 7. I wanted to cunt-punch his parents.

lol

[Fleck750]

Brat children grow up to be brat adults. Two people at my workplace, under the age of 25, told the supervisor to fuck off when asked to perform a menial task. Both are no longer employed there and I know they are wondering why.

If they offered child free restaurants, I'm sure the places would be packed even if the food was bad and service non existent.

[Papa_Complex]

So why shouldn't spanking be the first step? For proper discipline it should be consistent, memorable, and immediate. Kid stepping out of line? One quick smack and a little temporary pain, and it'll stop. The kid learns, quickly, what isn't acceptable behaviour.

That's what I got, and I turned out to be a fairly stable, contributing member of society. My sister got all of that 1970s-style "Free to Be, You and Me" bullshit and rarely received punishment, and she's an arrogant, selfish, manipulative bitch. My parents learnt their lesson, before my brother came along five years later, and he's pretty well adjusted too.

The damage is done quickly, and very early in life.

[derf]

My kids dont need to be spanked any more, with my 6 year old its relatively new development, my 11 year old hasnt needed it for a few years. WWith either of them all i have to do is make an angry face and they get in line. My son (6) still continues to cry past what I would consider Ok and all I have to do is raise my voice a little and make a quick threat and he quiets down.

Yes they got hit when they needed hitting

[the chi]

So why shouldn't spanking be the first step? For proper discipline it should be consistent, memorable, and immediate. Kid stepping out of line? One quick smack and a little temporary pain, and it'll stop. The kid learns, quickly, what isn't acceptable behaviour.

That's what I got, and I turned out to be a fairly stable, contributing member of society. My sister got all of that 1970s-style "Free to Be, You and Me" bullshit and rarely received punishment, and she's an arrogant, selfish, manipulative bitch. My parents learnt their lesson, before my brother came along five years later, and he's pretty well adjusted too.

The damage is done quickly, and very early in life.

Sounds like me and my sisters, but both of them got the "Im too tired to deal with you" kinda discipline. Which resulted in being brought home by the cops, anger management issues, shitty grades, blah blah, etc. I got the calls asking if I wanted them to come live with me. Fuck no, I told you you shoulda beat their asses and punished them like you over punished me. I spent entire summers grounded for mouthing off. Not stealing, not lying, not fighting. Talking back. I got in trouble for not cleaning the kitchen right. At 9 years old. Having to use a fucking step stool. My room was subjected to white glove clean tests. I was made to kneel in the corner on hard floors for talking back. For an hour or more at a time. (Once I got it all the way up to 5 hours, but they actually let me off with only an hour or 2, split into 2 sessions. I was gonna have my damn say if it killed me. At least they didnt use the rice, right?!)

You think my sisters ever did chores? Or got decent grades? Ever cleaned their rooms? Or did much of anything? HA. No they screamed at my parents that they werent going to do it, and sure enough, rarely did. They hit my parents, broke shit, did whatever they hell they wanted and want still.

They are the reason I pretty much dislike kids. And never really wnted one of my own. I did everything but give birth but wasmt allowed to discipline while my parents worked. Thus why I got multiple jobs and moved out at 19.

I'm a big fan of putting the fear of god in kids early, no matter what it takes. My parents may have over done it with me, but I damn sure turned into a responsible and contributing citizen too (and only a LITTLE bitter :lol:).

[defector]

Kid stepping out of line? One quick smack and a little temporary pain, and it'll stop.


Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

[Kaneman]

So why shouldn't spanking be the first step?

It absolutely should be. If you do it right a couple of times you'll probably never have to do it again.

Spankings are going to be a thing of the past. Even in Texas they it is becoming illegal to spank your kids barehanded without leaving bruises.

[Kaneman]

Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

Wasn't it the Dr. Spock book that did it?

[OneSickPsycho]

I have a tendency to stare down kids who are annoying... rambunctious, staring, or otherwise. It makes ONSSP uncomfortable sometimes...

Last night at dinner... there was a kid, probably about 2-3 years old... shreiked once... That I can handle... Kids will be kids and the parents handled him immediately. Right next to us there was a guy with two little girls... they were playing with their food and whatnot, but were quiet, not staring, and not running around the place. That's the way parents and kids should be.

[Kaneman]

Sometimes I want to slip my son a $10 and point out kids for him to rear naked choke.

[OneSickPsycho]

Sometimes I want to slip my son a $10 and point out kids for him to rear naked choke.

Funny... I have $10 in my wallet right now...

[Papa_Complex]

Guess you didn't get the memo...the mental anguish lasts forever. (Or until therapy, whichever comes first).
I am curious as to when this mentality took over. Early to mid 80's possibly?

Wasn't it the Dr. Spock book that did it?

Must be, 'cause Mr. Spock woulda just nerve pinched 'em out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdczjhGvg8

[the chi]

I'm curious about this whole spanking thing. I've gotten a few in my time and they never once left bruises. Wouldnt leaving bruises be considered abuse? You can spank them without leaving bruises and still get their attention.

:lol: Different Spock man...

[Kaneman]

I'm curious about this whole spanking thing. I've gotten a few in my time and they never once left bruises. Wouldnt leaving bruises be considered abuse? You can spank them without leaving bruises and still get their attention.


No, I'm saying that even spankings that do not leave bruises are being outlawed.

I would think you'd have to hit pretty hard with an open hand to leave a bruise. Still, bruises aren't that big a deal.

[azoomm]

I won't go into the spanking vs. not spanking. But, I will say, I believe too many parents are trying to be friends with their kids. I think THAT is how this all started. Hell, even my ex-husband now has a rotten child because they want this damn kid to like them. Fuck that - my kids love me because I tell them to. :lol:

[Kaneman]

I wonder....were children, especially in public places, more well behaved when spanking dat ass was a common practice, or have kids always ran around restaurants acting like cunty little assholes?

[the chi]

Back in our parents day, and shoot, even in my day as a small child, it was politically correct and expected to take your screaming kid outside or to the bathroom to deal with them. :lol: Reminds me of the Jeff Foxworthy bit about just the threat of going "outside" being enough to straighten your ass out. But I think too, back in the day people had a sense of decorum and responsibility with the grace and politeness to be concerned about others wellfare, i.e. not subjecting others to their child's misbehavior.

Now people dont care about anyone but themselves and dont give a shit if their monsters are offending others. And its not just kids, its everything in life, driving, talking on cell phones at such a volume that the people across the street can hear you, using the handicap spot when you arent handicapped/or parking in front of the front doors in the non parking zone, etc. They dont have the couth to be embarassed by their poor behavior either or to know when they should be.

[OneSickPsycho]

I won't go into the spanking vs. not spanking. But, I will say, I believe too many parents are trying to be friends with their kids. I think THAT is how this all started. Hell, even my ex-husband now has a rotten child because they want this damn kid to like them. Fuck that - my kids love me because I tell them to. :lol:

:lol:

I wonder....were children, especially in public places, more well behaved when spanking dat ass was a common practice, or have kids always ran around restaurants acting like cunty little assholes?

This whole shitpile has gone downhill since back in those days... You know, the days of personal accountability... when it was embarrassing to be a douchebag idiot... embarrassing to be pregnant at 14 years old... embarrassing... The problem is, somewhere along the way we took the whole 'all men are created equal' thing and went nutso apeshit with it. Everyone wins, because we're all equal... can't discipline my kid because they are my equal... because I need my kid to be my friend...

[Papa_Complex]

I'm curious about this whole spanking thing. I've gotten a few in my time and they never once left bruises. Wouldnt leaving bruises be considered abuse? You can spank them without leaving bruises and still get their attention.

:lol: Different Spock man...

I know. My mother just recently threw out one of Dr. Spock's books, from back in the '60s, when she was on a cleaning binge. Mr. Spock was better at handling obnoxious kids :lol:

Back then I got my hide tanned by hands, belts, shoes, hair brushes, and wooden spoons. More than a few, of the latter two broke on my bony ass, so you can be damned sure my parents weren't exactly worried about leaving bruises.

Back in our parents day, and shoot, even in my day as a small child, it was politically correct and expected to take your screaming kid outside or to the bathroom to deal with them. :lol: Reminds me of the Jeff Foxworthy bit about just the threat of going "outside" being enough to straighten your ass out. But I think too, back in the day people had a sense of decorum and responsibility with the grace and politeness to be concerned about others wellfare, i.e. not subjecting others to their child's misbehavior.

Now people dont care about anyone but themselves and dont give a shit if their monsters are offending others. And its not just kids, its everything in life, driving, talking on cell phones at such a volume that the people across the street can hear you, using the handicap spot when you arent handicapped/or parking in front of the front doors in the non parking zone, etc. They dont have the couth to be embarassed by their poor behavior either or to know when they should be.

Back in the day, if you acted up in public, nothing really happened to you in public. At least not up here, unless you were going to grow up to be a writer, for "Trailer Park Boys." No, when you got home, you received your correction. It was generally the only time that it was necessary; once.

[anthonyk]

We used to have a paddle hanging outside the door to the principal's office at my school. It got used pretty frequently.

I won't go into the spanking vs. not spanking. But, I will say, I believe too many parents are trying to be friends with their kids. I think THAT is how this all started.

:lol: Our 3-yr-old told his mom and me the other day that we weren't his friends. We both said, "That's fine, you have enough of those. We'll just be your parents instead."

[askmrjesus]

I won't go into the spanking vs. not spanking.

You are SUCH a fucking tease...

JC

[azoomm]

You are SUCH a fucking tease...

JC

:lol:

I don't believe in it, unless it's between consenting adults.

[tommymac]

Sometimes I want to slip my son a $10 and point out kids for him to rear naked choke.

Money well spent IMO

[Particle Man]

:lol:

I don't believe in it, unless it's between consenting adults.

NOW we're talking...

[wildchild]

sometimes I wonder if it's the kids that piss me off or the inconsiderate parents who are more worried about "their right" to be in establishment rather then everyone elses desire to not be bothered.

my kids both got smacked once pretty good. both then knew "the look" meant shut the hell up or we will leave right now. food or no food. I had to leave once with the older boy. he went to bed hungry and got the point.

I'm not a huge fan of spanking. growing up my ass busted more wooden spoons then I care to remember.

i still think parents should be considerate enough to realize their child is the problem in the establishment, not the other people looking at them.

[Papa_Complex]

Culture of entitlement: Everyone is now firmly convinced that they're entitled to certain things, forgetting that perks come with responsibilities. Everyone is now an overgrown 3 year old.

"I WANT I WANT I WANT!!!!!!"

[Particle Man]

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

I love the "but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids." - A restaurant can serve or not serve whomever they choose.

:shrug:

[tommymac]

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

I love the "but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids." - A restaurant can serve or not serve whomever they choose.

:shrug:

beat me to it. I was going to post that. it says in there another restaurant did that and business got much better.

[Particle Man]

beat me to it. I was going to post that. it says in there another restaurant did that and business got much better.

Hell, I HAVE a kid and I'd go there to eat (obviously without the kid :lol:)

[Papa_Complex]

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

I love the "but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids." - A restaurant can serve or not serve whomever they choose.

:shrug:

There is no discrimination. They're banning ALL children below age 6. It's a very inclusive exclusion.

[tommymac]

Hell, I HAVE a kid and I'd go there to eat (obviously without the kid :lol:)

me too. me and wifey had a nice fight about this many years ago. her niece used to wander to other peoples tables and climb around or talk to them, thye all thought it was cute and did nothing about it. I felt otherwise. if I am out at eating I dont want your kids bothering me while I eat, even if at a fast food type place. her SIL is kinda useless as a parent which explains why her and her brother are fuckups and are like wannabe ghetto wiggers

[anthonyk]

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

I love the "but some parents consider the move discriminatory, and potentially a violation of rights for certain special needs kids." - A restaurant can serve or not serve whomever they choose.

:shrug:

Well, sort of... They can't say, "Keep yer autistic kid at home," but it seems a huge stretch to say that a simple "screaming won't be tolerated" sign falls under the umbrella of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

And banning kids altogether sure doesn't either, unless kids are now a protected disability class. :lol: I'd totally respect a place that says "no kids." I can take my son there when he's old enough. No big deal.

[Particle Man]

It's a very inclusive exclusion.

Exactly

[defector]

Hey, if you're not old enough to go to war or vote, GTFO my restaurant!

[Trip]

Hey, if you're not old enough to go to war or vote, GTFO my restaurant!

Keep out old people and jews while you are at it.

[shmike]

Keep out old people and jews while you are at it.

And blacks.

Not only quiet but decent tips too!

[Papa_Complex]

And blacks.

Not only quiet but decent tips too!

Got to cut out white trash and groups of more than 4 people, if that's your goal. I don't think that I've been at a large group dinner yet, where someone didn't elect himself 'treasurer' to collect up the money for the bill, so that they can stiff the wait staff on the cheque, to pay for his own meal.

[anthonyk]

Got to cut out white trash and groups of more than 4 people, if that's your goal. I don't think that I've been at a large group dinner yet, where someone didn't elect himself 'treasurer' to collect up the money for the bill, so that they can stiff the wait staff on the cheque, to pay for his own meal.

Dude, you need nicer friends. :lol:

[tommymac]

Dude, you need nicer friends. :lol:

I hear ya there, had some "friends" who were like that, I have since moved on from associating with them.

[Papa_Complex]

Dude, you need nicer friends. :lol:

These I would class as "acquaintances", not friends, and I go for separate cheques ;)

[shmike]

These I would class as "acquaintances", not friends, and I go for separate cheques ;)

Separate checks is the way to go.

It cracks me up when servers get annoyed by that.

You're more likely to get a 20%+ tip from ten people paying $10 each than you are on a $100 check.

[Papa_Complex]

Separate checks is the way to go.

It cracks me up when servers get annoyed by that.

You're more likely to get a 20%+ tip from ten people paying $10 each than you are on a $100 check.

The last time that I let myself be tagged into a group bill was about 5 years ago. It was a birthday dinner. I paid for my own dinner and for the birthday girl, plus about a 30% tip because we'd gotten great service. When the 'banker' was done adding things up she mysteriously came up about $40.00 short, and started asking everyone for more money. I think that the server ended up with about 10% after that.

Never again. I'm not going to be lumped in with cheap assholes.

[tommymac]

The last time that I let myself be tagged into a group bill was about 5 years ago. It was a birthday dinner. I paid for my own dinner and for the birthday girl, plus about a 30% tip because we'd gotten great service. When the 'banker' was done adding things up she mysteriously came up about $40.00 short, and started asking everyone for more money. I think that the server ended up with about 10% after that.

Never again. I'm not going to be lumped in with cheap assholes.

Been there too many times, we would go out I would have an appetizer and 2 beers and the "banker" would want like 40 bucks from me.

[defector]

Separate checks is the way to go.

It cracks me up when servers get annoyed by that.

You're more likely to get a 20%+ tip from ten people paying $10 each than you are on a $100 check.

That's why they are servers, and not cashiers. :lol:

[Trip]

Got to cut out white trash and groups of more than 4 people, if that's your goal. I don't think that I've been at a large group dinner yet, where someone didn't elect himself 'treasurer' to collect up the money for the bill, so that they can stiff the wait staff on the cheque, to pay for his own meal.

Cut out the Euros too and anyone who uses cheque instead of check.

[Papa_Complex]

Cut out the Euros too and anyone who uses cheque instead of check.

Fine with the first, but servers would make less with the second ;)

[Captain Morgan]

Cut out the Euros too and anyone who uses cheque instead of check.

I guess that takes care of the Czech that pays with a cheque.

[Trip]

Not in Emericah, just in Canyada

[Dave]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-kcT2Csv/0/L/i-kcT2Csv-L.jpg

[Particle Man]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-kcT2Csv/0/L/i-kcT2Csv-L.jpg

:lol:

[Mudpuppy]

i too am so sick of this pussy society where you shouldn't spank your kids.. fuck the whole "time out" thing.. come on over to my house and see how my kids behave.. it's not because i put them on a pedestal or because i give them time outs..

[azoomm]

Yesterday at Chuy's, we were seated on the patio for lunch. About half way through our lunch this woman stands up with her screaming child as if she was going to leave because screaming child was screaming. Nope, she just stood up and continued her conversation with her table, kid on her hip. I looked over and got her attention. I calmly said, "Excuse me, you realize your child is screaming, right?" She looked annoyed and excused herself [with said child]. Her entire table thanked me. Why the hell wouldn't THEY way something??

[Particle Man]

Some people's filters need adjustment. That's all.

[tommymac]

Some people's filters need adjustment. That's all.

With an uppercut to the jaw :lol:

[Particle Man]

With an uppercut to the jaw :lol:

Generally :D

[Fleck750]

Make business cards to hand to the children wandering around or give to their parents that state, "You and your child are ruining everyone elses dinner. Please vacate the premise immediately. " :D