ZX14 Rumors

[nhgunnut]

Being a fan of big bore GT bikes, I am beginning to hear rumors of a change in in the 20112 ZX14 and it intrigues me . What is being thrown about is a change in Displacement to 1429cc traction control and ABS brakes. This along with a few rumored cosmetic changes are very enticing to me. Anyone with an inside line to Kawasaki?

[tached1000rr]

I've also heard about a makeover and enhancements but no specifics and only hear say

[goof2]

On the ABS front the Concours 14 has it available. I can't imagine putting that system on the ZX-14 would be terribly difficult.

[pauldun170]

It's getting that and a 4k jump in price

[nhgunnut]

It's getting that and a 4k jump in price
Ouch!

[Homeslice]

It's getting that and a 4k jump in price

Calling bs, who would pay it

[Adeptus_Minor]

Calling bs, who would pay it

The same kind of people who would pay $18k for the new VMax, and apparently someone is because they're still making them. (or were as of model year 2011)

[Homeslice]

From $13,599 to $17,599? I can't see that happening.

[pauldun170]

From $13,599 to $17,599? I can't see that happening.

Why not? 2011 Zx10 with options runs 15k.

[tommymac]

Hope they do some cosmetic upgrades, think the bike is kinda fuggly

[Homeslice]

Why not? 2011 Zx10 with options runs 15k.

Because ABS, TC, and a mere 6% increase in displacement isn't enough to justify a 29% price increase........especially not in this economy.

[Corey]

Hope they do some cosmetic upgrades, think the bike is kinda fuggly

That's quite the understatement. It looks morbidly obese.

[tommymac]

That's quite the understatement. It looks morbidly obese.

I see morbidly obeese all the time here at work so sadly I know more than I want to about that LOL

[nhgunnut]

As a guy who owns a Busa and a B King I don't really care about appearance. (although they could loose the Big George Grill on either side. The Projected Jump form 1352 to 1429 is enough to make me curious, that along with the better brakes than the Suzuki line has me wondering.

[goof2]

Because ABS, TC, and a mere 6% increase in displacement isn't enough to justify a 29% price increase........especially not in this economy.

It has a lot more to do with this economy than it does with improvements to the bike. When the Dollar tanks compared to the Yen and most of Kawasaki's expenses for the bike are in Yen Kawasaki is going to need more Dollars for the bike. Kawasaki now gets less than 80 Yen for every Dollar. Around a year ago they got closer to 90. Three years ago they got in the neighborhood of 110. I'd bet the exchange rate is the primary driver for the price increase.

The upside is that same change should make US manufactured goods cheaper to sell in Japan. Too bad we don't make anything anymore.

[Homeslice]

It has a lot more to do with this economy than it does with improvements to the bike. When the Dollar tanks compared to the Yen and most of Kawasaki's expenses for the bike are in Yen Kawasaki is going to need more Dollars for the bike. Kawasaki now gets less than 80 Yen for every Dollar. Around a year ago they got closer to 90. Three years ago they got in the neighborhood of 110. I'd bet the exchange rate is the primary driver for the price increase.

The upside is that same change should make US manufactured goods cheaper to sell in Japan. Too bad we don't make anything anymore.

I hope they are prepared to sell a lot less, then. The economy isn't going to get any better next year.

[goof2]

I hope they are prepared to sell a lot less, then. The economy isn't going to get any better next year.

My guess is they would rather sell less of them at a profit than more of them at a loss.

[101lifts2]

Because ABS, TC, and a mere 6% increase in displacement isn't enough to justify a 29% price increase........especially not in this economy.

No...but a 76 Yen to the dollar is a pretty good reason.

[Homeslice]

Then why haven't 600's dramatically increased? They're still in the high 10K range, which hasn't changed in years.

[OneSickPsycho]

Then why haven't 600's dramatically increased? They're still in the high 10K range, which hasn't changed in years.

Uh... low 10's a couple of years ago... mid/upper 11's now...

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2011/suzuki/gsx_r/prices/05/index.html

[shmike]

Then why haven't 600's dramatically increased? They're still in the high 10K range, which hasn't changed in years.

Hasn't changed in years?

A few years ago, the 600's were in the $9k range.

A few years before that, they were in the $7k range.

[Homeslice]

Uh... low 10's a couple of years ago... mid/upper 11's now...

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2011/suzuki/gsx_r/prices/05/index.html

Uh, Yamaha posts $10.8 on their website

[Homeslice]

Hasn't changed in years?

A few years ago, the 600's were in the $9k range.

A few years before that, they were in the $7k range.

goof was talking about the last 3 years during which exchange rates changed dramatically. During those 3 years, I don't recall prices increasing much at all. The economy doesn't allow it. There were some super deals to be had over the last 3 years.

The heydays of the mid-00's are over. I knew a guy who paid almost $13K for his 05 600RR, including taxes & setup. But these days, almost nobody pays MSRP, and if they do, they're flat-out stupid.

[Dave]

Uh, Yamaha posts $10.8 on their website

Uh, the R6 hasnt been changed in like six years

[Homeslice]

Uh, the R6 hasnt been changed in like six years

Uh, STFU redflip

[pauldun170]

Pricing reality check

2010 Honda CBR 600RR $11,199 N/A $11,199
2010 Honda CBR 600RR C-ABS $12,199 N/A $12,199
2011 Honda CBR 1000RR $13,399 N/A $13,399
2011 Honda CBR 1000RR C-ABS $14,399 N/A $14,399
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R $10,699 N/A $10,699
2011 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 $10,999 N/A $10,999
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14 $13,599 N/A $13,599
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R $13,799 N/A $13,799
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R ABS $14,799 N/A $14,799
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 600 $11,599 N/A $11,599
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 750 $11,999 N/A $11,999
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 $13,599 N/A $13,599
2011 Suzuki Hayabusa 1340 $13,699 N/A $13,699
2011 Yamaha YZF R6 $10,690 N/A $10,690
2011 Yamaha YZF R1 $13,590 N/A $13,590
2011 Triumph Daytona 675 $10,499 N/A $10,499
2011 Triumph Daytona 675R $11,999 N/A $11,999
2011 Aprilia RSV4 R APRC $16,990 N/A $16,990
2011 Aprilia RSV4 FACTORY APRC SE $22,499 N/A $22,499
2011 Ducati 1198 Base $16,495 N/A $16,495
2011 Ducati 1198 SP $21,995 N/A $21,995
2011 Ducati 1198 R Corse $39,995 N/A $39,995
2011 Ducati 848 EVO Base $12,995 N/A $12,995
2011 BMW S 1000 RR $13,950 $495 $14,445

Read more: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2011/bmw/s/prices/05/index.html#ixzz1W9odb7dc

[OneSickPsycho]

Pricing reality check

2010 Honda CBR 600RR $11,199 N/A $11,199
2010 Honda CBR 600RR C-ABS $12,199 N/A $12,199
2011 Honda CBR 1000RR $13,399 N/A $13,399
2011 Honda CBR 1000RR C-ABS $14,399 N/A $14,399
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R $10,699 N/A $10,699
2011 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 $10,999 N/A $10,999
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14 $13,599 N/A $13,599
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R $13,799 N/A $13,799
2011 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R ABS $14,799 N/A $14,799
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 600 $11,599 N/A $11,599
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 750 $11,999 N/A $11,999
2011 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 $13,599 N/A $13,599
2011 Suzuki Hayabusa 1340 $13,699 N/A $13,699
2011 Yamaha YZF R6 $10,690 N/A $10,690
2011 Yamaha YZF R1 $13,590 N/A $13,590
2011 Triumph Daytona 675 $10,499 N/A $10,499
2011 Triumph Daytona 675R $11,999 N/A $11,999
2011 Aprilia RSV4 R APRC $16,990 N/A $16,990
2011 Aprilia RSV4 FACTORY APRC SE $22,499 N/A $22,499
2011 Ducati 1198 Base $16,495 N/A $16,495
2011 Ducati 1198 SP $21,995 N/A $21,995
2011 Ducati 1198 R Corse $39,995 N/A $39,995
2011 Ducati 848 EVO Base $12,995 N/A $12,995
2011 BMW S 1000 RR $13,950 $495 $14,445

Read more: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2011/bmw/s/prices/05/index.html#ixzz1W9odb7dc

Now show us 2009 prices...

[pauldun170]

Now show us 2009 prices...

Fuck you
Show me some tits (and not yours or some other dude's)

[OneSickPsycho]

Fuck you
Show me some tits (and not yours or some other dude's)

http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/boobs-adult-gifs10.gif

[OneSickPsycho]

Now show me prices motherfucker.

[pauldun170]

http://asp.elitefts.net/images/upload/qa/boobs-adult-gifs10.gif

This is acceptable



2009 GSXr1k - $12,899.00
busa - $13,199.00
2009 zx-14 - $12,399.00
cbr 1k abs $12,999.00
cbr600 abs - $10,799.00

ize get more if more boobs posted

[OneSickPsycho]

This is acceptable



2009 GSXr1k - $12,899.00
busa - $13,199.00
2009 zx-14 - $12,399.00
cbr 1k abs $12,999.00
cbr600 abs - $10,799.00

ize get more if more boobs posted

600's please....

http://s2.b3ta.com/host/creative/34966/1243587521/boobs.gif

http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr208/ericlevik/bouncing-boobs.gif

http://www.team5speed.com/cjobe/Gifs/More%20Boobs.gif

http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2010/07/30/maxims-5-favorite-gifs-for-friday-heather-graham-edition/Svetlana_Shusterman.gif

[pauldun170]

Yammer R6 MSRP $9,990.00
Triumph 675 MSRP $9,799.00
Gxsr 600 MSRP $10,399.00
zx6 MSRP $9,799.00

[Homeslice]

so, in 2 years (2009 to 2011), the zx6r has increased by 9%, the r6 by 8%, the 675 by 7%, and the gix600 by 11%

weaksauce, compared to the proposed 29% increase for the zx14

also, who is actually paying those MSRP's anyway?

[OneSickPsycho]

so, in 2 years (2009 to 2011), the zx6r has increased by 9%, the r6 by 8%, the 675 by 7%, and the gix600 by 11%

weaksauce, compared to the proposed 29% increase for the zx14

also, who is actually paying those MSRP's anyway?

If nobody is paying the MSRP, what's your point again?

[Homeslice]

If nobody is paying the MSRP, what's your point again?

That for Kwak to raise it 29% would make their MSRP's even more of a joke than they already are.

[pauldun170]

so, in 2 years (2009 to 2011), the zx6r has increased by 9%, the r6 by 8%, the 675 by 7%, and the gix600 by 11%

weaksauce, compared to the proposed 29% increase for the zx14

also, who is actually paying those MSRP's anyway?

weaksauce is that I pulled the price jump on the 14 out of my ass. Would be awesome if it turns out accurate because then I can say that I am motherfucking omnipotent

[Homeslice]

weaksauce is that I pulled the price jump on the 14 out of my ass. Would be awesome if it turns out accurate because then I can say that I am motherfucking omnipotent

FU :lol

[OneSickPsycho]

weaksauce is that I pulled the price jump on the 14 out of my ass. Would be awesome if it turns out accurate because then I can say that I am motherfucking omnipotent

http://smiliesftw.com/x/big_rofl.gif

[goof2]

weaksauce is that I pulled the price jump on the 14 out of my ass. Would be awesome if it turns out accurate because then I can say that I am motherfucking omnipotent

Would you settle for motherfucking impotent?

[Homeslice]

Would you settle for motherfucking impotent?

:zowned:

[nhgunnut]

Here it is. As a long time busa guy the specs make me sit up and pay attention. 100 CC more than a stock gen 2 busa (Big Bore Busa displacement with a factory wuarrantee
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/630/11256/Motorcycle-Article/2012-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-14R-First-Look.aspx
If you like Big Bore GT bike have to take this one seriously

[OneSickPsycho]

Here it is. As a long time busa guy the specs make me sit up and pay attention. 100 CC more than a stock gen 2 busa (Big Bore Busa displacement with a factory wuarrantee
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/630/11256/Motorcycle-Article/2012-Kawasaki-Ninja-ZX-14R-First-Look.aspx
If you like Big Bore GT bike have to take this one seriously

I like... I really like...

Slip ons, an undertail kit, and some billet fluid reserviors... Done.

[tached1000rr]

I like it as well, I think those exhaust cans resemble those on the busa

[OneSickPsycho]

And then there's this:
http://www.allbikesinfo.com/featured/kawasaki-plan-to-supercharged-the-zzr1400-bike

Read something about it in one of the motorcycle rags...

[nhgunnut]

And then there's this:
http://www.allbikesinfo.com/featured/kawasaki-plan-to-supercharged-the-zzr1400-bike

Read something about it in one of the motorcycle rags...
I had read that and I would love it but Kawasaki got burned by the old Turbo bikes, I have doubts that we will see one

[pauldun170]

I dont know...
I was really hoping they would add more headlights this year.

[OneSickPsycho]

I had read that and I would love it but Kawasaki got burned by the old Turbo bikes, I have doubts that we will see one

I think we've come a long way since then... if they could drop "250hp" as a tagline, supercharged or no, it'd get buyers...

[goof2]

I dont know...
I was really hoping they would add more headlights this year.

:lol: All it needs is a light bar with a half dozen Mooneyes or Hellas.

I really don't mind the lights, but the cheese graters on the sides look too much like a mix between a Suzuki RF900R and a Testarossa.

[Corey]

:lol: All it needs is a light bar with a half dozen Mooneyes or Hellas.

I really don't mind the lights, but the cheese graters on the sides look too much like a mix between a Suzuki RF900R and a Testarossa.

But they match the included tool kit.

http://s.tidebuy.com/images/product/0/379/379233_1_m.jpg

[Smittie61984]

But they match the included tool kit.

http://s.tidebuy.com/images/product/0/379/379233_1_m.jpg

If they throw those in, I'll be at the Kawi dealer tommorow.

I don't care if the bike is pink with purple polka dot dicks and the exhaust sounds like Rebecca Black's Friday. If that fucker puts out 250hp then I'm game. You won't see it anyways as I come by on the rear wheel at 180mph.

[Cutty72]

Doesn't look bad, but why do all the Sport tourer bikes go with analog speedo and tach? I really prefer a digital speedo.

[Tmall]

Doesn't look bad, but why do all the Sport tourer bikes go with analog speedo and tach? I really prefer a digital speedo.


I believe in this case it is so you can actually get a sense of the speedo moving. Instead of it being a blur then flashing 299. :lol

[Particle Man]

I believe in this case it is so you can actually get a sense of the speedo moving. Instead of it being a blur then flashing 299. :lol

:lol: indeed. Think of it as a safety measure.

Too much bike for me

[Smittie61984]

i believe in this case it is so you can actually get a sense of the speedo moving. Instead of it being a blur then flashing 299. :lol

qftmft

[OneSickPsycho]

Doesn't look bad, but why do all the Sport tourer bikes go with analog speedo and tach? I really prefer a digital speedo.

I like analog... I like it 100x better than any other option...

[AquaPython]

so what if they melt the 4 headlight partially back into 2?
http://www.bikeland.org/misc/2012/kawasaki/2012_zx14r_14.jpg

[AquaPython]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/11/kawasaki-shows-off-2012-zx-14r-calls-it-worlds-fastest-acceler/

[Cutty72]

I like analog... I like it 100x better than any other option...

idk, I like the digital one on the Buell. Granted, it's all I've ever had, as the SV is also digital.
When I rode the Sprint, I never knew how fast I was going, too hard to find the speed on the dial. Maybe after you get used to it so you know that 55 is at 10 o'clock etc it would be easier...

[Tmall]

Stolen from Sbn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFGZLTwe8E

[OneSickPsycho]

idk, I like the digital one on the Buell. Granted, it's all I've ever had, as the SV is also digital.
When I rode the Sprint, I never knew how fast I was going, too hard to find the speed on the dial. Maybe after you get used to it so you know that 55 is at 10 o'clock etc it would be easier...

1) I rarely know how fast I'm going, I go more by feel than anything.
2) Nothing beats watching that dial climb as you pump through the gears.
3) Standing there looking at it - analog looks "faster"... or more high performance to me...

[dReWpY]

Stolen from Sbn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFGZLTwe8E

good god.... what numbers is the bmw1000rr putting down?

[OneSickPsycho]

That's fast... like shit my pants and ask for seconds fast...

[Smittie61984]

son of a fucking bitch. God damn, that shit is fast. It's gonna be nuts when people start tuning that bitch.

[Homeslice]

Doesn't look bad, but why do all the Sport tourer bikes go with analog speedo and tach? I really prefer a digital speedo.

Sport tourers = older customers, and more "traditional"

Also, those bikes are so wide, that they have to fill that space with a wide dashboard with big gauges.

[pauldun170]

Analog gauges are good for the street IMO. You don't have to look at them directly to know your speed. Digital you have to directly glance at it.

Maybe digital gauges allow for lighter weight (key for sport bikes) while other classes can keep a the ole needle for design aesthetic.

maybe....I'm not an expert on these things you know

[OneSickPsycho]

Analog gauges are good for the street IMO. You don't have to look at them directly to know your speed. Digital you have to directly glance at it.

Maybe digital gauges allow for lighter weight (key for sport bikes) while other classes can keep a the ole needle for design aesthetic.

maybe....I'm not an expert on these things you know

Yep - needle=perty... Fuck yo' digital.

[Homeslice]

I would say only 10-20% of analogs are good-looking, or quickly readable at speed.

With most pre-digital sportbikes, most of their speedos were so small that you had to squint to tell if you were going 72 or 78. The needle blocked half of the space between 70 and 80. That's why I prefer digitals.

[Dave]

Is that Ricky? guy is cool as fuck in person. Tunes a mean PCIII too...

[pauldun170]

I would say only 10-20% of analogs are good-looking, or quickly readable at speed.

With most pre-digital sportbikes, most of their speedos were so small that you had to squint to tell if you were going 72 or 78. The needle blocked half of the space between 70 and 80. That's why I prefer digitals.

I think after a few weeks of ownership, you'll know where the needle is pointing without having to see the actual number.

[RedRider2k2]

After owning a 12 and spending some time in the saddle of my friend's beefed up 14, I must say, I would love to have an afternoon with one.