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'73 H1 Triple
10-02-2011, 12:15 PM
Sarver Heart Center’s newest video makes it easy to learn Continuous Chest Compression CPR. Every three days, more Americans die from sudden cardiac arrest than the number who died in the 9-11 attacks. You can lessen this recurring loss by learning this hands-only CPR method that doubles a person’s chance of surviving cardiac arrest. Watch physician researchers Gordon A. Ewy, MD, and Karl Kern, MD, demonstrate the easy, life-saving method that they developed at the University of Arizona College of Medicine.
http://ahsc.arizona.edu/node/730
Watch the 6 minute video and learn a new, hands only CPR technique. No more mouth to mouth or stopping to check for a pulse.
You could save the life of a loved one
Jeff
askmrjesus
10-02-2011, 12:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0&ob=av2n
JC
Amorok
10-02-2011, 12:28 PM
Alright, I can see how this works but my problem is that they said you don't check for a pulse or clear the airway. If you have a pulse you don't need chest compression, you need oxygen. And for me to get oxygen to you, chest compressions or not, you need a clear airway.
'73 H1 Triple
10-02-2011, 12:38 PM
Alright, I can see how this works but my problem is that they said you don't check for a pulse or clear the airway. If you have a pulse you don't need chest compression, you need oxygen. And for me to get oxygen to you, chest compressions or not, you need a clear airway.
If you've had a heart attack and your heart is fibulating,( fluttering without really pumping the blood ) this method will pump blood to your brain.
Alright, I can see how this works but my problem is that they said you don't check for a pulse or clear the airway. If you have a pulse you don't need chest compression, you need oxygen. And for me to get oxygen to you, chest compressions or not, you need a clear airway.
This has been the CPR standard for a few years, the thinking behind it is that your blood has 20-30 minutes worth of oxygen in your blood supply without needing to breath. Proponents of this method contend that you someone who is having a heart attack should be under the care of trained paramedics within the first 10 minutes, and they can clear the airway and put you on a high O2 mix without much delay.
The creators of this method also hope to stop people from deciding if someone is alive (and thus worth starting CPR) or not by just automatically starting chest compression. An estimated 10% of people who have a heart attack that can be saved by CPR are declared dead on the scene by people who are not trained to declare someone dead. Basically innocent bystanders kill 10% of savable heart attack victims.
Another 20% of people are killed because potential lifesavers don't want to lock lips with a disgusting looking or smelling individual, so they let someone die because their personal hygienic or appearance are less than perfect. Removing the possibility of bodily fluid transfer increases the amount of people who are willing to attempt CPR immensely.
Moral of the story: a shit load of people die needlessly because other folks are too stupid or vein to help, and this is designed to increase the number of people who survive a heart attack by increasing the number of attempts at CPR, while sacrificing a much smaller number of people who become brain damaged because of oxygen starvation to the brain.
Smittie61984
10-02-2011, 08:48 PM
I've always started with chest compressions. Most people I've seen start with compressions despite that in many states you were suppose to do ABC (airway, breathing, circulation). As in make sure the airway is clear, get the preson breathing, and then get hte blood moving. To do that in real life I feel wastes time.
Of course, half the time I show up to an arrest the person basically died a long time ago becuase people are just standing around (even in nursing homes). If they do come back (very rare) they may live for a few days.
I did have a full save that I did off duty.
Best song that I was taught to was "another bites the dust". Perfect rhythem.
Adeptus_Minor
10-02-2011, 09:02 PM
Thanks for posting this!
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Rangerscott
10-02-2011, 10:40 PM
I always wear a condom when doing CPR.
This needs to be taught in school. Even if Chardonnay doesn't learn her math, at least she may be able to save a life.
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Rugby66x
10-03-2011, 12:40 AM
Of course, half the time I show up to an arrest the person basically died a long time ago becuase people are just standing around (even in nursing homes). If they do come back (very rare) they may live for a few days.
Showed up to a nursing home the other day and they were actually doing compressions but on a bed with no back board and the patient was on a simple mask w/ liters of o2.
tommymac
10-03-2011, 12:55 AM
The other thing that helps now is the availability of AED's. what usualy kills a person who has an MI is a fatal arrhythmia (ie ventricular tachycardia) if they have a shockable rhythm the aed may be able to get you back to a normal sinus rhythm and at least buy some time beofre paramedics arrive.
Smittie61984
10-03-2011, 08:01 AM
The other thing that helps now is the availability of AED's. what usualy kills a person who has an MI is a fatal arrhythmia (ie ventricular tachycardia) if they have a shockable rhythm the aed may be able to get you back to a normal sinus rhythm and at least buy some time beofre paramedics arrive.
AEDs are the shit and appear to be everywhere now. THey're damn dummy proof too. Damn thing talks to you and has pretty pictures. Though, even though it yells at you "everybody clear" then puts off funny sirens and all, I'm waiting for the day someone doesn't clear and gets the shit shocked out of them.
Particle Man
10-03-2011, 08:09 AM
AEDs are the shit and appear to be everywhere now. THey're damn dummy proof too. Damn thing talks to you and has pretty pictures. Though, even though it yells at you "everybody clear" then puts off funny sirens and all, I'm waiting for the day someone doesn't clear and gets the shit shocked out of them.If/when that happens, it'll be on YouTube within minutes :lol:
tommymac
10-03-2011, 08:22 AM
AEDs are the shit and appear to be everywhere now. THey're damn dummy proof too. Damn thing talks to you and has pretty pictures. Though, even though it yells at you "everybody clear" then puts off funny sirens and all, I'm waiting for the day someone doesn't clear and gets the shit shocked out of them.
seen it at work a few times, usualy pesky interns get zapped, my favorite are the ones whos chest hairs catch fire
Smittie61984
10-03-2011, 09:17 AM
seen it at work a few times, usualy pesky interns get zapped, my favorite are the ones whos chest hairs catch fire
You mean the ones who are busy yelling out that they secured the airway or started an IV like they did something special despite a paramedic (or even an EMT-I) already did both of those in the back of a bouncing truck. And they dont' hear everyone yelling "clear".
I'd love to see the chest hair fire!
Particle Man
10-03-2011, 11:22 AM
my favorite are the ones whos chest hairs catch fire
especially when they're women...
tommymac
10-03-2011, 12:22 PM
You mean the ones who are busy yelling out that they secured the airway or started an IV like they did something special despite a paramedic (or even an EMT-I) already did both of those in the back of a bouncing truck. And they dont' hear everyone yelling "clear".
I'd love to see the chest hair fire!
prety much, we also have a few nurses who think theyre doctors and have tried the same crap. The night time crew of paramedics we deal with are like rockstars which is nice for us, theyre spot on with most stuff except for all the stemi notifications we get, an dmost of the time its not them its telmetry making the call to us and they walk in withthe pt and apologize for them LOL
Smittie61984
10-03-2011, 03:58 PM
prety much, we also have a few nurses who think theyre doctors and have tried the same crap.
Nurse Gods are my favorite. I find it funny when they are on a MICU truck and all the shit falls on them. Then everything goes to hell and they don't have a hospital full of techs, specialists, or doctors/surgeons to fix whatever they fuck up or blame.
Back to the CPR.
I'd also like to add that if the person is moaning with eyes half open, you don't need to continue CPR.
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