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RACER X
10-07-2011, 10:04 AM
if you haven't heard

9% corp tax
9% income tax
9% fed. sales tax

"Cain, in his Wall Street Journal opinion piece, said the plan was designed to be revenue-neutral initially but that revenues would increase as the economy grows"

opinions?

pauldun170
10-07-2011, 10:44 AM
if you haven't heard

9% corp tax
9% income tax
9% fed. sales tax

opinions?

Would suck for me.

My state taxes would likely go up my effective overall tax rate would go up.
Lets add in that state sales tax is already 8.25...add on federal and now I'm paying 17.25% on everything I buy (food, clothing,fuel...vehicles).
Inflation...yeah that would suck. Cost of goods and services would rise.
supply chain would in plenty of industries would have to be revamped.

Also, I would lose out on all the little stuff like pre tax 401k, commuter, health accounts. No more tax breaks for home ownership or dependents.

I can think of a bunch of other reasons why it would suck.

Homeslice
10-07-2011, 01:49 PM
Slick-sounding marketing pitch

fujimoh
10-07-2011, 04:21 PM
It would work

Smittie61984
10-07-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm suprised Herman Cain has a plan like this. I've heard Cain for years on local talk radio and he is a huge supporter of a consumption tax/Fair Tax. Maybe this is like a middle ground for him.

Don't know much about this plan but I'll take just about anything over our current tax system.

OneSickPsycho
10-07-2011, 05:22 PM
It would absolutely cripple the economy...

People aren't going to do the math... Even if it worked in their favor... All they are going to see is that 9% increase on everything they buy and they'll spend less... That wouldn't be terrible if it wasn't for the fact that it would happen all at once.

OneSickPsycho
10-07-2011, 05:24 PM
Perhaps a progressive sales tax would fit this plan?

Cass
10-11-2011, 01:12 PM
I don't think it's an increase... I thought it was a change. Scrap what is currently there, replace with this. :shrug:

Adeptus_Minor
10-11-2011, 10:17 PM
I don't think it's an increase... I thought it was a change. Scrap what is currently there, replace with this. :shrug:

That's how I read it too.

Smittie61984
10-11-2011, 11:49 PM
That's how I read it too.

That's exactly how it is. I never heard of hte 9-9-9 plan until recently but I've listened to Cain for 5+ years on local talk radio and he is extremely opposed to the 16th ammendment (and 17th iirc)

derf
10-12-2011, 12:05 AM
Perhaps a progressive sales tax would fit this plan?

No, because progressive equals socialism

fatbuckRTO
10-12-2011, 08:41 AM
I'm with Michelle Bachmann: if you turn 9-9-9 upside down it's 6-6-6, and that's the devil's number! Cain's tax plan is Satan! SATAN!!!

*GASP* And his name is CAIN!!!

:willy:

OneSickPsycho
10-12-2011, 08:46 AM
No, because progressive equals socialism

Every purchase from $0.01 - $10k has a 1% tax... Everything from $10k - $100k has a 5% tax... $100k+ has a 10% tax... home sales excluded... :idk:

shmike
10-12-2011, 09:55 AM
Every purchase from $0.01 - $10k has a 1% tax... Everything from $10k - $100k has a 5% tax... $100k+ has a 10% tax... home sales excluded... :idk:

Nothing like reinstituting the luxury tax.

That would actually work better (be less noticeable) if inverted.

Smittie61984
10-12-2011, 10:14 AM
Nothing like reinstituting the luxury tax.

That would actually work better (be less noticeable) if inverted.

For sure. I think home prices would be pretty bad the other way. I know home sales excluded but still there will be taxes on all the stuff to build the home.

I tink the whole point of the 9-9-9 is that it is made to be simple and across the board. And also to take a lot of power away from the IRS/Department of Treasury.

Those who want to tax the "rich" becuase they have more will never accept a non-progressive tax (as long as it progresses by taking more money from the wealthier)

pauldun170
10-13-2011, 01:16 PM
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-13/cain-s-9-9-9-tax-code-scrap-keeps-levies-on-gasoline-beer.html