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RACER X
11-04-2011, 10:05 AM
huh, who woulda ever thunk
look at the last chart
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
pauldun170
11-04-2011, 10:35 AM
huh, who woulda ever thunk
look at the last chart
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
It doesn't really mean anything.
Its like showing a chart showing only seatbelt usage and fatalities.
You would have to make the assumption that usage would have made a difference in outcome.
"Helmeted rider traveling at high rate of speed collided with dump truck and died"
Well if he wasn't wearing a helmet then he would have lived!!!
anthonyk
11-04-2011, 11:57 AM
huh, who woulda ever thunk
look at the last chart
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
I take it you didn't actually read the article.
From the page right before that:
Helmets are estimated to be 37-percent effective in preventing fatal injuries to motorcycle riders and 41 percent for motorcycle passengers. In other words, for every 100 motorcycle riders killed in crashes while not wearing a helmet, 37 of them could have been saved had all 100 worn helmets.
That was even highlighted in the sidebar.
Numbers of fatalities (helmeted or not) in a state are meaningless without knowing the total population of riders. I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
askmrjesus
11-04-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
They're on the ABATE payroll...:lol:
JC
RACER X
11-04-2011, 12:15 PM
I take it you didn't actually read the article.
From the page right before that:
That was even highlighted in the sidebar.
Numbers of fatalities (helmeted or not) in a state are meaningless without knowing the total population of riders. I don't understand why NHTSA never seems to put the important numbers in their charts...
read..........pffft........i'm the poster............. SQUIRREL.................. child for A.D.D.
Smittie61984
11-04-2011, 02:10 PM
They're on the ABATE payroll...:lol:
JC
:rofl::lmao:
Don't they have at least a fatallity at every one of their rallies?
Particle Man
11-04-2011, 05:25 PM
:rofl::lmao:
Don't they have at least a fatallity at every one of their rallies?
Last one was here. Helmet law protester splattered his mellon cuz he wasn't wearing a lid.
The real take away is page 4, 42% of deaths were drunk
askmrjesus
11-04-2011, 06:04 PM
The real take away is page 4, 42% of deaths were drunk
And on their way back from an ABATE rally...:lol:
JC
Particle Man
11-04-2011, 08:33 PM
And on their way back from an ABATE rally...:lol:
JC
:lol
Rangerscott
11-05-2011, 01:58 AM
I wear a lid so my pretty face doesnt get fugly.
6doublefive321
11-06-2011, 10:44 AM
Table 6 shows 6 total deaths in Alaska, of which 3% were over 0.8% BAC. That equates to 0.18 riders. How does 0.18 of a rider maintain control of a bike? You would think someone would proof read this shit.
Particle Man
11-06-2011, 06:39 PM
Table 6 shows 6 total deaths in Alaska, of which 3% were over 0.8% BAC. That equates to 0.18 riders. How does 0.18 of a rider maintain control of a bike? You would think someone would proof read this shit.
Facts get in the way of a story.
Cutty72
11-08-2011, 10:08 PM
huh, who woulda ever thunk
look at the last chart
ND only state where 100% of the fatalities were non helmeted!
Wearing a lid in ND will save your life!
Smittie61984
11-08-2011, 11:55 PM
And on their way back from an ABATE rally...:lol:
JC
If they were on their way back from an ABATE rally, they probably wouldn't have a lid and would have survived.
Captain Morgan
11-09-2011, 12:35 AM
Looking at that chart I noticed the numbers were all over the place. I'd guess that states that had such a high number of deaths of motorcyclists wearing helmets, are probably states that require helmets. The numbers at the bottom are totals of all states combined. With some states requiring the use of helmets, that chart does't prove squat about whether or not the helmet saved or cost the rider his life.
fasternyou929
11-09-2011, 12:35 AM
huh, who woulda ever thunk
look at the last chart
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811389.pdf
More likely to be an idiot, if you draw that conclusion from the article.
I hope you aren't teaching those kids anything. At least give them a fighting chance.
shmike
11-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Table 6 shows 6 total deaths in Alaska, of which 3% were over 0.8% BAC. That equates to 0.18 riders. How does 0.18 of a rider maintain control of a bike?
That's why they are dead.
It is tough enough to maintain control as only 1/5 of a rider but it's nearly impossible when you're drunk too!
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