Federal court upholds NY MC checkpoints

[Gas Man]

This is COMPLETE BS

It is complete discrimination and profiling at it's best.

WSJ (http://online.wsj.com/article/APd85690f485cb457190e0848402d86251.html)

Associated Press
ALBANY, N.Y. — A federal judge has rejected motorcyclists' claims their constitutional rights were violated by New York State Police highway checkpoints that stopped thousands of riders and ticketed many.

Judge Gary Sharpe concludes the main focus of the 2008 statewide initiative by troopers, timed to coincide with rallies drawing crowds of riders, was safety.

Sharpe says that distinguishes them from "a general interest in crime control" that could have amounted to unconstitutional seizures when there's no "individualized suspicion of wrongdoing."

Four motorcyclists sued troopers claiming safety was a mere pretext in looking for criminals.


According to Sharpe, 5,342 vehicles passed through 17 checkpoints in 2008.

Authorities inspected 2,278 and issued 1,064 tickets, including 365 for helmet violations, 99 for other safety violations, 600 for non-safety violations, and made four criminal arrests.

[pauldun170]

Most riders with approved helmets are waved through the checkpoints, where they slow but don't stop, he said.

Unless you are on a sportbike...then your ass is pulled over.

[Gas Man]

I wear a half DOT around here. but on the road trips, I'm wearing a full face modular... they wouldn't stop me then.

But it's BS. I'm glad in Michigan they have ALL road block down as unconstitutional.

[wildchild]

yep I was going to go to Americade one year and they told me on the phone to expect to be stopped and ticketed if my pipes were anything but stock. Went somewhere else.

[Particle Man]

yep I was going to go to Americade one year and they told me on the phone to expect to be stopped and ticketed if my pipes were anything but stock. Went somewhere else.
And now you know one of the reasons I don't go there anymore. Moira can tell you the other reasons from first hand experience.

[Rangerscott]

Ride with your willy out and see if they wave you one or tackle you.

[fasternyou929]

Ride with your willy out and see if they wave you one or tackle you.

Damn Freud.

[Particle Man]

Damn Freud.
:lol:

[Gas Man]

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.

[Particle Man]

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.

They'll give you a ticket to bust your balls because you're from out of state and bank on the odds being that you won't tavel all the way back to NY to contest it.

[Gas Man]

I call BS. And for the record, I almost drove clear back to knoxville for a speeding ticket, but 2 days before my court date a local lawyer contacted me and I hired him for less than what I would have paid in gas. But bottom line, I fought that bitch.

[Particle Man]

I call BS.

By all means - try 'em out :lol:

They're pricks in this state.

[Gas Man]

Well it goes with most things in NY

[Particle Man]

2 things this state does well: traffic fines and taxes.

[tommymac]

2 things this state does well: traffic fines and taxes.

That they do. What surprise dme with this is while the troopers were doing this upstate there wasnt a peep about NYC hwy patrol doing the same, making roadblocks just for bikes. These guys were impounding bikes like it was nothing, but a lot of people didnt have licenses and that sort of thing.

[Smittie61984]

Unless you are on a sportbike...then your ass is pulled over.

They'd have a feild day with an ABATE rally

[Particle Man]

That they do. What surprise dme with this is while the troopers were doing this upstate there wasnt a peep about NYC hwy patrol doing the same, making roadblocks just for bikes. These guys were impounding bikes like it was nothing, but a lot of people didnt have licenses and that sort of thing.

I saw a little about it but not nearly as much as with this

[fujimoh]

Well I have 50 state legal Harley slip ons... but they aren't stock... wonder what they would say.


They are looking for the DOT stamp on the exhaust. No stamp, you get ticket

[fujimoh]

double post

[azoomm]

And now you know one of the reasons I don't go there anymore. Moira can tell you the other reasons from first hand experience.



because its filled with douchbags?

[Particle Man]

because its filled with douchbags?

Couldn't have said it better.

[Gas Man]

They are looking for the DOT stamp on the exhaust. No stamp, you get ticket
Again like I said, they are DOT 50 state legal slip ons.
http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444877480 4&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374309447089&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374309447089&locale=en_US&bmUID=1322364620328&bmLocale=en_US

These Screamin' Eagle products are 50-state street legal for sale and use on all vehicles, including those that are pollution controlled.

These Screamin' Eagle products are street legal for sale and use on pollution controlled vehicles in the state of California.

Heck I don't think my stockers had a DOT stamp.

[Particle Man]

Like I said: they'll issue you a summons because it isn't stock and bank on you not appearing to dispute.

[derf]

Heck I don't think my stockers had a DOT stamp.


I've never owned a motorycle with a stock exhaust (except the KLR)

[Gas Man]

Like I said: they'll issue you a summons because it isn't stock and bank on you not appearing to dispute.
Good luck sayings not stock.

And I would appear.

[Particle Man]

Good luck sayings not stock.

And I would appear.

Good. Fuck 'em