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Sixxxxer
12-06-2011, 06:23 PM
So there is a new update for Xbox 360's releasing sometime in the next few days, In short...It's adding More ways to watch TV via your Xbox. They have a whole list of Contracts with Big name companies (Some not releasing until later this year or early next year) HBOGo, Comcast, Verizion, UFC PPV's etc etc are all listed as whats coming in the future.

Most of them require you to have a subscription to use I.E. You cant use HBOGO if you dont have HBO through your cable provider. But I do honestly feel like it's a big step in the direction of technology.

My question is, Do any of you NOT have Cable? I know almost every show I watch I can stream online through the network website. And of course there is the possibility to Download them if need be. My biggest drawback for not seeking alternative options is Live sports and in HD. I know they have Stuff like the MLB At Bat you can buy every season but they blackout the local teams, and NFL Redzone I can stream on my phone/computer. But it's just easier for me to watch it on my TV Live and in HD instead of trying to haggle my way through secondary applications and streaming them via computer/phone.

Do you think Cable TV will ever fall to the wayside and be overtaken by an online streaming type of service? I think the pricing incentives are there for something different...I pay almost 100$ a month for internet and Cable and would LOVE to cut my expenses if possible.

Amber Lamps
12-06-2011, 08:31 PM
So there is a new update for Xbox 360's releasing sometime in the next few days, In short...It's adding More ways to watch TV via your Xbox. They have a whole list of Contracts with Big name companies (Some not releasing until later this year or early next year) HBOGo, Comcast, Verizion, UFC PPV's etc etc are all listed as whats coming in the future.

Most of them require you to have a subscription to use I.E. You cant use HBOGO if you dont have HBO through your cable provider. But I do honestly feel like it's a big step in the direction of technology.

My question is, Do any of you NOT have Cable? I know almost every show I watch I can stream online through the network website. And of course there is the possibility to Download them if need be. My biggest drawback for not seeking alternative options is Live sports and in HD. I know they have Stuff like the MLB At Bat you can buy every season but they blackout the local teams, and NFL Redzone I can stream on my phone/computer. But it's just easier for me to watch it on my TV Live and in HD instead of trying to haggle my way through secondary applications and streaming them via computer/phone.

Do you think Cable TV will ever fall to the wayside and be overtaken by an online streaming type of service? I think the pricing incentives are there for something different...I pay almost 100$ a month for internet and Cable and would LOVE to cut my expenses if possible.

Um bro....ever hear of an antenna?:lol:

Amber Lamps
12-06-2011, 08:36 PM
Seriously, I lived off Netflix, Hulu, network websites, ESPN.com, sports bars, a set top ant, etc for months. Quite frankly, every month I wonder what I'm thinking paying Dish network considering how little TV I actually watch.... It's truly amazing just how much entertainment can be had for free.:idk:

Tmall
12-06-2011, 08:37 PM
I'm seriously considering it. I've been paying 160 for phone cable internet. I can get a cell phone for next to nothing and have decent fibre op at a fair price, what's the use of cable? Background noise is about all I use it for these days.

Corey
12-06-2011, 09:21 PM
I haven't had cable in over 2 years. It started as a thing where I just couldn't afford it. Once a little more money started coming in, I just couldn't justify the costs. I catch a few programs at my friend's house, but when we're just hanging about and vegetating, channel surfing makes me miserable. He's got some super deluxe cable package that he's paying almost 200 for and there's not a fucking thing worth watching most of the time.

I've been quite happy using Netflix (even with the rate hike), Amazon Video Streaming (yay Prime!), and the little AppleTV box I've got. I've been thinking about getting a Roku box to get the UFC content and maybe trying out Hulu Plus. For the stuff that I like, there are enough alternatives out there to make cable a no go for me.

marko138
12-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Seriously, I lived off Netflix, Hulu, network websites, ESPN.com, sports bars, a set top ant, etc for months. Quite frankly, every month I wonder what I'm thinking paying Dish network considering how little TV I actually watch.... It's truly amazing just how much entertainment can be had for free.:idk:

Agree. I havent had cable in 6 years. Antenna here.

Homeslice
12-06-2011, 10:35 PM
Fuck cable.
For internet I use a portable hotspot I can take anywhere.

Corey
12-06-2011, 10:52 PM
Fuck cable.
For internet I use a portable hotspot I can take anywhere.

Is it 4G/LTE? Do you run into caps or overages? I've been looking at the Verizon LTE MiFi stuff, but going over the cap would be horrifically expensive.

Homeslice
12-06-2011, 11:08 PM
Is it 4G/LTE? Do you run into caps or overages? I've been looking at the Verizon LTE MiFi stuff, but going over the cap would be horrifically expensive.

Yeah it's Verizon. Last I checked it was $80 for 10GB, and $50 for 5GB (plus $10 per gig over 5). But lots of employers are on their discount list, like mine, so I get a 20% discount off those prices.

Corey
12-06-2011, 11:31 PM
Yeah it's Verizon. Last I checked it was $80 for 10GB, and $50 for 5GB (plus $10 per gig over 5). But lots of employers are on their discount list, like mine, so I get a 20% discount off those prices.

I get a discount through work also, which would be nice. Do you stream a lot? Have you come close to hitting your cap? Do you use it heavily? I'm paying $50/month for garbage ATT DSL. Any opportunity to ditch their shit service is welcome, but I don't want to get something only to get kicked in the dick on overages.

Particle Man
12-07-2011, 12:09 AM
Agree. I havent had cable in 6 years. Antenna here.

Same. Eff the cable companies

anthonyk
12-07-2011, 12:20 AM
Same here, no cable for a few years now (and I wasn't the one watching it when we did have it). My 4-yr-old knows how to use the netflix app on the iPad, and that's pretty much all we need.

Homeslice
12-07-2011, 12:27 AM
I get a discount through work also, which would be nice. Do you stream a lot? Have you come close to hitting your cap? Do you use it heavily? I'm paying $50/month for garbage ATT DSL. Any opportunity to ditch their shit service is welcome, but I don't want to get something only to get kicked in the dick on overages.
High-def video is going to kill your cap, so yeah, it would never suffice for the regular TV watcher.

Sixxxxer
12-07-2011, 12:28 AM
Another Issue for me is Internet, I would ditch it completely but You can use a Hotspot for online gaming...The amount of Data used would put you at your cap in like a Day.

Suppose I could cut back to strictly Internet, But the companies around here actually offer BETTER Savings if you have two services with them I.E. It would cost me 60 plus tax for JUST internet and 80 Plus tax for Internet AND Cable...So to me the 20 Bucks is Justifiable.

Just some food for thought, I give you guys who dont run Cable props...I dont think I could do it at the moment.

marko138
12-07-2011, 08:22 AM
I just have internet. No land line phone either. DSL thru verizon. Not the fastest but it's only 20/month.

Kaneman
12-07-2011, 09:27 AM
I keep bare minimum satelitte (Dish Network, $24 a month) just so I can order PPV fights. Other than that we watch everything off Roku.

dReWpY
12-07-2011, 10:01 AM
No internets no cables just smart phones for the win

shmike
12-07-2011, 10:41 AM
Family will be in town for the holidays.

January 1, cable will be turned off.

We almost never watch TV and I'm tired of paying a bill for something I don't use.

KSGregman
12-07-2011, 11:07 AM
I switched to the base package of DirectTV....primarily for NFL Sunday ticket.

I don't watch much TV but this package is reasonably priced...I get all the football I want....and access to the handful of channels I enjoy when I do watch TV.

derf
12-07-2011, 07:00 PM
Another Issue for me is Internet, I would ditch it completely but You can use a Hotspot for online gaming...The amount of Data used would put you at your cap in like a Day.

Suppose I could cut back to strictly Internet, But the companies around here actually offer BETTER Savings if you have two services with them I.E. It would cost me 60 plus tax for JUST internet and 80 Plus tax for Internet AND Cable...So to me the 20 Bucks is Justifiable.

Just some food for thought, I give you guys who dont run Cable props...I dont think I could do it at the moment.

Internet here is $80 by itself. Cable/internet package is $100. Cable/internet/phone brought it down to $90. Crazy thing is I never even hooked a phone up to it, but I got over 1000 calls incoming each month on my bill.

Homeslice
12-07-2011, 08:05 PM
Internet here is $80 by itself. Cable/internet package is $100. Cable/internet/phone brought it down to $90. Crazy thing is I never even hooked a phone up to it, but I got over 1000 calls incoming each month on my bill.

:?:
Was it a new number, or did you port over your existing one?

Sixxxxer
12-08-2011, 01:23 PM
Internet here is $80 by itself. Cable/internet package is $100. Cable/internet/phone brought it down to $90. Crazy thing is I never even hooked a phone up to it, but I got over 1000 calls incoming each month on my bill.

You get 1,000 Telemarketers a Month...Fuck that Noise.

EpyonXero
12-08-2011, 06:12 PM
High-def video is going to kill your cap, so yeah, it would never suffice for the regular TV watcher.

I have a Verizon LTE phone but they havent activated LTE in my home area yet. This Thanksgiving I went to my parent's place, where they do have LTE and I burned through 3 gigs in less than a week. Mostly downloading music and streaming video.

Id love to cut the cable cord but I DVR a lot of shows and watch a lot of live sports and I just cant do it yet. If I can get something like GoogleTV with a built in DVR and ESPN HD, I might do it.

Homeslice
12-08-2011, 06:26 PM
I have a Verizon LTE phone but they havent activated LTE in my home area yet. This Thanksgiving I went to my parent's place, where they do have LTE and I burned through 3 gigs in less than a week. Mostly downloading music and streaming video.
.

Yeah you can take two guys watching the same HD video, same resolution, and same amount of time, and the guy with 4G will have downloaded more data than the guy with 3G. Even if it didn't noticeably improve quality.

Sixxxxer
12-08-2011, 11:10 PM
I have a Verizon LTE phone but they havent activated LTE in my home area yet. This Thanksgiving I went to my parent's place, where they do have LTE and I burned through 3 gigs in less than a week. Mostly downloading music and streaming video.

Id love to cut the cable cord but I DVR a lot of shows and watch a lot of live sports and I just cant do it yet. If I can get something like GoogleTV with a built in DVR and ESPN HD, I might do it.


That's my Issue as well, Live sports.


Maybe one day...

Rangerscott
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
The problem with all these companies moving towards the internet is the internet providers ripping people off and capping us. Hear about people stream all their vids and shows, but that shit adds up quick and even quicker if its HD.

Someone is gonna have to step in and fuck over the web providers.

Im gonna go postal if cloud gaming actually takes off.

Sixxxxer
12-10-2011, 06:10 PM
The problem with all these companies moving towards the internet is the internet providers ripping people off and capping us. Hear about people stream all their vids and shows, but that shit adds up quick and even quicker if its HD.

Someone is gonna have to step in and fuck over the web providers.

Im gonna go postal if cloud gaming actually takes off.

Yeah, Comcast has a 150 Gig Cap per month. When I had Verizon Fios I was not aware of a monthly cap.

But I agree that shit is stupid...Same thing with the Cell Phone caps they have now.

Why so against cloud storage for gaming?

Rangerscott
12-10-2011, 07:58 PM
Yeah, Comcast has a 150 Gig Cap per month. When I had Verizon Fios I was not aware of a monthly cap.

But I agree that shit is stupid...Same thing with the Cell Phone caps they have now.

Why so against cloud storage for gaming?

I've already given in to Steam. I want to "own" my shit. Not do something that they dont like and then some company has the right to take away "my" property. We all might as well go rent an ipad for 72 months @ $20 a month.

I'm surprised M$ doesnt stop "selling" xbox's and start "renting" them out. The sad thing is people would allow it.

derf
12-10-2011, 10:18 PM
:?:
Was it a new number, or did you port over your existing one?

I have never in my adult life had a house phone, there is no reason for it. I'm thinking that its either close to another popular number and people missdial, or it was someone really popular number. Either way I don't care because without a phone hooked to it, it doesn't actually ring

EpyonXero
12-10-2011, 11:25 PM
I've already given in to Steam. I want to "own" my shit. Not do something that they dont like and then some company has the right to take away "my" property. We all might as well go rent an ipad for 72 months @ $20 a month.

I'm surprised M$ doesnt stop "selling" xbox's and start "renting" them out. The sad thing is people would allow it.

Steam is annoying. Even a completely offline game like Skyrim requires me to log in and look at their ads to play my game.

Amber Lamps
12-11-2011, 12:07 PM
Speaking of home, phone service..... I just bought a magic jack plus. I don't really care about home phone but I'm hoping that it will work with my home security system. I had a marketing scheme I tried to develop for renters and college dorms using cheap voip. Unfortunately mj relied on a running computer at the time. That is no longer the case. If it works the way I want, your alarm will call you and up to 5 other numbers of your choosing. You can then check your web security cameras, also installed by me inexpensively, and decide to call the cops. It eliminates the need for the monthly monitoring fee and the sometimes excessive lag some security services have.

Captain Morgan
12-11-2011, 01:24 PM
Speaking of home, phone service..... I just bought a magic jack plus. I don't really care about home phone but I'm hoping that it will work with my home security system. I had a marketing scheme I tried to develop for renters and college dorms using cheap voip. Unfortunately mj relied on a running computer at the time. That is no longer the case. If it works the way I want, your alarm will call you and up to 5 other numbers of your choosing. You can then check your web security cameras, also installed by me inexpensively, and decide to call the cops. It eliminates the need for the monthly monitoring fee and the sometimes excessive lag some security services have.

Sounds like something I wouldn't mind setting up in my house. Not because I have stuff to steal, but because the cops almost NEVER seem to find anyone who breaks into houses or cars. Video cameras seem to be cheap enough these days that I would at least have proof of the theft and hopefully a picture of their face.

Tmall
12-11-2011, 11:46 PM
Sounds like something I wouldn't mind setting up in my house. Not because I have stuff to steal, but because the cops almost NEVER seem to find anyone who breaks into houses or cars. Video cameras seem to be cheap enough these days that I would at least have proof of the theft and hopefully a picture of their face.

And they STILL wouldn 't do a damned thing. Sad but true.

Revenue generation and bullying the population FTW.

Particle Man
12-12-2011, 05:15 AM
Sounds like something I wouldn't mind setting up in my house. Not because I have stuff to steal, but because the cops almost NEVER seem to find anyone who breaks into houses or cars. Video cameras seem to be cheap enough these days that I would at least have proof of the theft and hopefully a picture of their face.
That's because there's more money to be had in pulling someone over for 5 over the speed limit... Can't make anything off of busting thieves...

Amber Lamps
12-13-2011, 07:24 PM
Sounds like something I wouldn't mind setting up in my house. Not because I have stuff to steal, but because the cops almost NEVER seem to find anyone who breaks into houses or cars. Video cameras seem to be cheap enough these days that I would at least have proof of the theft and hopefully a picture of their face.

Yea and the outlay is only about $300 total....

Papa_Complex
12-14-2011, 07:36 AM
We're looking at a convergence of technologies. I'm surprised that it's taking as long as it is. Eventually you'll be getting live TV, recorded TV and movies, on-demand, internet, and phone via the same connection AND devices. you'll have one master control box, that all of these devices talk to, to select what stream each device will receive.

derf
12-14-2011, 10:04 PM
I have some cams hooked up pointing outside my house, at my driveway, front door, garage, parking spot and back door. They are all motion activated, record any movement, and all hooked up to a computer (wireless) with a 1tb external hard drive running free software I found online. Not including the computer which is just my old desktop that I was gonna trash anyway, is just under $250. That's the hard drive, 4 cameras and a wireless adapter.

I put the system together after my car got keyed while in my driveway. Since then all it captures is my neighbor and his wife arguing in the street, and my other neighbors kid cutting school on tuesdays. He leaves for school, then when his mom goes off to work, her walks out of the woods with some friends and into his house.