VS buys another forum...

[OneSickPsycho]

www.customfighters.com was just sold to Motorcycle.com, which is owned by Vertical Scope.

Motherfuckers. I liked that place.

[Papa_Complex]

Pity. At this point it takes me mere seconds, to recognize a Verticalscope forum. Laidlaw gives Canadians a bad name.

[OneSickPsycho]

It's funny... it's ALL the same... always the same story...

VS comes in and there's a general announcement... little will change, going to benefit everyone, want to keep the community strong, blah blah blah... then they introduce a new mod - just to help out... this person seems ok enough...

That's where we are today...

Next step, the ads will come in... people will start being censored and banned... fucktons more ads will flood in... people will start to get super pissed and mass bannings will occur...

And if I have my way, a bunch of cool as motherfuckers will be assimilated to TWFix. :lol:

[Papa_Complex]

As far as I know the mass bannings never happened at CF. Those of us, who had seen it before, sort of 'self banned.'

A local guy, who has what is likely the most successful motorcycle board in Canada, has turned them down multiple times.

[OneSickPsycho]

Yeah, well maybe I got banned from TWF because I was posting 20,000x20,000 images and replaced most of my pictures in previous threads with paint picture that said something like 'fuck you VS... you suck a fucking fat dick' and had pictures of cocks ejaculating on the VS... fuckers.

[Papa_Complex]

Yeah, that might just be it. Or maybe it was the username.

[tommymac]

As far as I know the mass bannings never happened at CF. Those of us, who had seen it before, sort of 'self banned.'

A local guy, who has what is likely the most successful motorcycle board in Canada, has turned them down multiple times.

I think fred and a few others realy went after the vs guy so they were the only ones who got banned. They realy screwed rez though. From what I had heard a year or 2 before the accident they offered him a lot of money and he turned it down. Then after the accident they came back with a real low ball offer because they knew he was in a bad situation. Thats what made this whole thing even worse IMO.

Funny tthing is a bunch of us still use the NY forum to organize rides and events. Outside of myself and one or 2 others most of them never ventured outside the NY forum so they kinda mised all the drama.

[OneSickPsycho]

Ugh... it's sad watching this shit happen... there's a guy on there defending the whole thing... he's usually a guy who skewers people over shit, now he's defending the takeover... You know because the owners were promised that the community wouldn't be broken and the site would be run the same...

In other words, all the same fucking bullshit they tell people they are buying out... just before the run the place into the fucking ground.

[marko138]

They still do this?

[shmike]

They still do this?

That was my first thought.

I can't believe that that is still a viable business.

[Papa_Complex]

I think fred and a few others realy went after the vs guy so they were the only ones who got banned. They realy screwed rez though. From what I had heard a year or 2 before the accident they offered him a lot of money and he turned it down. Then after the accident they came back with a real low ball offer because they knew he was in a bad situation. Thats what made this whole thing even worse IMO.

That's the real piss off. It's all business to them, but the people they are preying upon are generally enthusiasts. Rez put heart and soul into the board, and his business. It hurt to walk, because it felt like walking out of he and Lorilye, but having seen it before I couldn't do anything else.

Funny tthing is a bunch of us still use the NY forum to organize rides and events. Outside of myself and one or 2 others most of them never ventured outside the NY forum so they kinda mised all the drama.

I've dropped by a few times, in the last year, and it looks like a ghost town in what were previously the two most active sub-forums.

That was my first thought.

I can't believe that that is still a viable business.

Like I said above, it's all business to them. If they weren't making money, they wouldn't do it. Verticalscope is all about targeted advertising. That's why the ads will always be there. Maybe they let you turn them off, but they still get you. If nothing else you're generating board traffic, that lets set prices based on hits.

Look at their website's brag sheet and it'll explain it all to you.

[derf]

I think fred and a few others realy went after the vs guy so they were the only ones who got banned. They realy screwed rez though. From what I had heard a year or 2 before the accident they offered him a lot of money and he turned it down. Then after the accident they came back with a real low ball offer because they knew he was in a bad situation. Thats what made this whole thing even worse IMO.

Funny tthing is a bunch of us still use the NY forum to organize rides and events. Outside of myself and one or 2 others most of them never ventured outside the NY forum so they kinda mised all the drama.

Yep, ip banned for life, I have since changed my ip, but my names are banned across every VS board that I was registered on. There were a few other derf's that got banned from other forums too after my little late night rant on stewie.


They still do this?

Yep, they branched out and did other motorsport forums too, snowmobiles, cars, etc...

[Papa_Complex]

They branched out to things like PWCs very early on.

[tommymac]

do most of the sites they buy continue to do well or were the small majority that stays away from them. Still sad to see how they turned CF to shit.

[Papa_Complex]

do most of the sites they buy continue to do well or were the small majority that stays away from them. Still sad to see how they turned CF to shit.

Depends. The usual seems to be that they take the site over and then slowly alienate and lose the original members, then there's a downturn, followed by an upswing of new members. I don't know that the really popular sites ever get back to their original membership though.

And we sort of preemptively turned CF to shit, I think, before the ads and crap really started to kick in. I had given a fair bit to try and keep it afloat, when they were having trouble, but damned if I was going to pay a e-strip miner for membership.

[Gas Man]

I'm with marko... I can't believe they are still in biz. They take over the forums and within months it's shit tubes.

You all should start having the regulars come over here...

[azoomm]

do most of the sites they buy continue to do well or were the small majority that stays away from them. Still sad to see how they turned CF to shit.

Huh, from those that are holding a grudge... I thought I turned CF to shit.

Damn VS

[tommymac]

Depends. The usual seems to be that they take the site over and then slowly alienate and lose the original members, then there's a downturn, followed by an upswing of new members. I don't know that the really popular sites ever get back to their original membership though.

And we sort of preemptively turned CF to shit, I think, before the ads and crap really started to kick in. I had given a fair bit to try and keep it afloat, when they were having trouble, but damned if I was going to pay a e-strip miner for membership.

Seemed a lot of the core members knew it was comming. I met up with zeos after a td at summit and told me it was comming in a few months. I too threw them soem money and tried to buy from tricktape when I could just becasue they were good people but that drunk driver realy fucked them up. I thein VS reputation preceeded them taking over and most of us were aware of what they were/did so took off and bashed them at the same time.

[derf]

Seemed a lot of the core members knew it was comming. I met up with zeos after a td at summit and told me it was comming in a few months. I too threw them soem money and tried to buy from tricktape when I could just becasue they were good people but that drunk driver realy fucked them up. I thein VS reputation preceeded them taking over and most of us were aware of what they were/did so took off and bashed them at the same time.

I think that a good number of us found out about vs when we met up in gettysburg

[Papa_Complex]

I didn't realize it, but RiderForums was recently acquired by Forum Foundry. Never heard of them before, but they sound an awful lot like VS.

[Kaneman]

there's a guy on there defending the whole thing...

Now THAT sounds familiar. I was surprised by all the people sticking up for VS when they took over CF. But then again, most people are stupid soooo.....

[tommymac]

Now THAT sounds familiar. I was surprised by all the people sticking up for VS when they took over CF. But then again, most people are stupid soooo.....

Seems a handful of the mods drank the kool aid over there and said everything would stay the same, then they slowly started withthe ads then added membership fees.

[OneSickPsycho]

LOL Someone posted up the VS mod's personal info... Motherfuckers are going down swinging...

Anyone care to call her?

You guys could forward your resumes to her personal email at:[-----

And then give her a call at work,---- to make sure she received it.

Thanks. Just in case you were too late catching her at work, you could always give her a dingle at home, ----, and have a nice chat.

Also, mail her a thank you letter, for all that she's done for

-----

:fu:

[fasternyou929]

^The online equivalent of beating up a secretary because you don't like executive level decisions.

I don't know Denvgasm from anybody, but that's a pure chicken-shit move.

[Papa_Complex]

Seems a handful of the mods drank the kool aid over there and said everything would stay the same, then they slowly started withthe ads then added membership fees.

I think that they felt more like they were defending Rez's decision, than that they were defending VS. He didn't need any defending. He just did what he had to.

[Trip]

Deleted the personal info, Osp. I don't want to give an easy reason for vs to come after me.

[tommymac]

I think that they felt more like they were defending Rez's decision, than that they were defending VS. He didn't need any defending. He just did what he had to.

Some of that got prety weird, soem bashed rez for doing it as a sell out move, not realizing how dire his situation was, and I think soem in some way wanted it to continue on as it had in the past.

Most of my friends came over here anyway and made soem cool new ones here too. I had the same mindset when SBN went down and CF was created. At the time I had no loyalty to rez or fred and was going to go where my friends went.

[Lamnidae]

Deleted the personal info, Osp. I don't want to give an easy reason for vs to come after me.

smart move, Trip.




OSP -- i remember those days back on the old TWF and your awesome postings..... My last one was a collage of the hindenburg and titanic. Ahhhh... memories....

[OneSickPsycho]

Deleted the personal info, Osp. I don't want to give an easy reason for vs to come after me.

You're right, sorry about that.

[Homeslice]

Now THAT sounds familiar. I was surprised by all the people sticking up for VS when they took over CF. But then again, most people are stupid soooo.....

Likely the contract provides a gradual payment, rather than a lump sum, depending on a "nice, peaceful" transition. Think about it, if you were VS you wouldn't just pay Rez and then watch him shit on the forum. You would put it in the contract that he can't recruit away members, that he must not talk shit or reveal any confidential info, and that X number of mods must stay around for at least X amount of time. At least that's what I'd do if I were VS.

(If I wanted to be in the business of creating nothing, and leaching off others, of course).

[Papa_Complex]

Likely the contract provides a gradual payment, rather than a lump sum, depending on a "nice, peaceful" transition. Think about it, if you were VS you wouldn't just pay Rez and then watch him shit on the forum. You would put it in the contract that he can't recruit away members, that he must not talk shit or reveal any confidential info, and that X number of mods must stay around for at least X amount of time. At least that's what I'd do if I were VS.

(If I wanted to be in the business of creating nothing, and leaching off others, of course).

Standard non compete and non disclosure. I doubt there was a whole lot other than that.

[tommymac]

Standard non compete and non disclosure. I doubt there was a whole lot other than that.

I am prety sure that they do that. I recall that they bought out another forum ( I think it was either a yamaha or ducati forum) and they tried to start up another site soon after then VS went after the new site along those lines.

[azoomm]

I am prety sure that they do that. I recall that they bought out another forum ( I think it was either a yamaha or ducati forum) and they tried to start up another site soon after then VS went after the new site along those lines.

Ducati Monster board. The new one exists... didn't close.

[derf]

Likely the contract provides a gradual payment, rather than a lump sum, depending on a "nice, peaceful" transition. Think about it, if you were VS you wouldn't just pay Rez and then watch him shit on the forum. You would put it in the contract that he can't recruit away members, that he must not talk shit or reveal any confidential info, and that X number of mods must stay around for at least X amount of time. At least that's what I'd do if I were VS.

(If I wanted to be in the business of creating nothing, and leaching off others, of course).

Yep Rez explained it to me when they first offered him the buyout, he would be required to participate on the forum for X number of months with a minimum number of posts by him a week. He would also not be allowed to open up another site that would be in competition with CF. he would also loose complete control over the forum. And then he turned it down. After that, stuff started to get bad and eventually he sold.

There were some folks who when the rumors of the VS buyout started that were talking about starting a forum to bring members to after the fall of CF, one of the sites that was floated (and possibly registered) was cafeforums.com , with the CF highlighted. What wound up happening instead is that a number of people had already been through a VS buyout split right away and migrated with their online social group elsewhere, here, sporttouring.net got a small influx, a few harley sites, some locality based forums, basically wherever.

[tommymac]

Yep Rez explained it to me when they first offered him the buyout, he would be required to participate on the forum for X number of months with a minimum number of posts by him a week. He would also not be allowed to open up another site that would be in competition with CF. he would also loose complete control over the forum. And then he turned it down. After that, stuff started to get bad and eventually he sold.

There were some folks who when the rumors of the VS buyout started that were talking about starting a forum to bring members to after the fall of CF, one of the sites that was floated (and possibly registered) was cafeforums.com , with the CF highlighted. What wound up happening instead is that a number of people had already been through a VS buyout split right away and migrated with their online social group elsewhere, here, sporttouring.net got a small influx, a few harley sites, some locality based forums, basically wherever.

Our small group in the NY forum stayed put and I think the PNW forum is still rather busy, but thats a lot of guys who dont venture out much and from what I heard they had plenty of their own drama too.

[Kaneman]

Man derf sure knows a lot of about CF for never having been a member there!

[derf]

Man derf sure knows a lot of about CF for never having been a member there!

Ummmmm? I was a member of SBN and went to CF, I had something like 150000 posts

[VatorMan]

You do realize they use bots to keep their post counts up right? Corvette Forum was taken over by Internet Brands. Within a couple of days we found several bots that had over a million posts. Go back and look. Guaranteed you'll find them.

[tommymac]

You do realize they use bots to keep their post counts up right? Corvette Forum was taken over by Internet Brands. Within a couple of days we found several bots that had over a million posts. Go back and look. Guaranteed you'll find them.

cf did something like that too, I was getting quoted by people in odd posts and were people I didnt know.

[Papa_Complex]

cf did something like that too, I was getting quoted by people in odd posts and were people I didnt know.

That was spamming. It seems to peak, shortly after VS announces a take-over.

[Kaneman]

Ummmmm? I was a member of SBN and went to CF, I had something like 150000 posts

redflip

[derf]

You do realize they use bots to keep their post counts up right? Corvette Forum was taken over by Internet Brands. Within a couple of days we found several bots that had over a million posts. Go back and look. Guaranteed you'll find them.

they also use mirror sites and automatically just change the usernames

redflip

Well aren't you just cunt-tastic

[Papa_Complex]

they also use mirror sites and automatically just change the usernames

I've found my posts on ghost sites before, under different usernames, but not forums that were owned by VS.

[Lamnidae]

You do realize they use bots to keep their post counts up right? Corvette Forum was taken over by Internet Brands. Within a couple of days we found several bots that had over a million posts. Go back and look. Guaranteed you'll find them.

Didn't know that. But makes sense.

[Papa_Complex]

Judging by the statistics, they sure as hell aren't doing it with CF.

[RedRider2k2]

i just went back to take a look around CF. It's so weird to go there now...

"Welcome, Redrider2k2.
You last visited: 08-07-2010 at 06:18 PM"

Stop by every year or two to reminisce. The "What are you listening to?" thread spans about 5 years.

[askmrjesus]

I got mail at CF!

CycleForums.com is excited about the launch of our new group-buying site DriverDeals.com. Each week DriverDeals will feature a new deal with incredible savings on riding essentials from our vendors. You can think of DriverDeals as the GroupOn for gear-heads!

Our first deal is a pair of Speed and Strength Twist of Fate ST motorcycle gloves.

Regular Price: $99.95
Your Price: $39.95 -- a 60% discount!!

These gloves feature everything you need for riding this Spring:

- Leather frame
- High impact knuckle protector
- Hinged knuckle
- Pre-curved race cut fit
- Reinforced palm
- Dual stage cuff closure

QUANTITIES ARE LIMITED and these gloves will sell-out soon! Buy today by signing up for DriverDeals.com and take advantage of these incredible savings!

http://www.driverdeals.com/

Thanks,
CycleForums.com Admin

Admin spam. :lol:

Fuck those guys.

JC

[Homeslice]

Clever name. DriverDeals, for riders. Yeah ok.

[askmrjesus]

Clever name. DriverDeals, for riders. Yeah ok.

What? It's a great name.

I signed up to sell stuff there.

Waiting for response.

JC

[Gas Man]

JC that is :rofl:

[Homeslice]

:lol

[san Antone RR]

The owner of CustomFighters decided to sell because he was going to the pen for 5 years of Fed time. Kinda had to, I would imagine. That place is imploding much faster than CF did back when Rez sold it.

[Papa_Complex]

Fire sale pricing, eh? Just having a look around there now. Looks like a bunch of them are putting together a new forum.

[OneSickPsycho]

Yep, though now VS claims that they know they've made lots of mistakes in the past and learned their lesson... So they won't be gutting the place. I have my doubts.

The biggest issue with that place is how questions and concerns were treated, quick exacerbated the panic...

[Papa_Complex]

Sounds familiar :lol:

[VatorMan]

What? It's a great name.

I signed up to sell stuff there.

Waiting for response.

JC

:lol:lol

[san Antone RR]

Fire sale pricing, eh? Just having a look around there now. Looks like a bunch of them are putting together a new forum.


http://www.streetfightersusa.com/forum/index.php

[derf]

I really want to sign up there to see if Stewie still works at VS. I also want to know if the offer his mom made dragonpaco and I for the double team, if its still open. I also want to know if the donkey show offer that stewie made for his mom is open too, that would be cool.

[OneSickPsycho]

I really want to sign up there to see if Stewie still works at VS. I also want to know if the offer his mom made dragonpaco and I for the double team, if its still open. I also want to know if the donkey show offer that stewie made for his mom is open too, that would be cool.

No mention of Stew, but the takeover mod is named Helena.... She posts the same intro thread in every forum they've taken over recently... Found her copy/paste online elsewhere.

[Trip]

Stew doesn't work with vs anymore, hasn't for awhile.

[derf]

Stew doesn't work with vs anymore, hasn't for awhile.

This makes me sad :(

Are there any compromising photos of helena floating around the internetz? Does she do anal?

[Trip]

This makes me sad :(

Are there any compromising photos of helena floating around the internetz? Does she do anal?

If it makes you feel better, I think it was cause how bad twf and cf went is why he moved on.

[derf]

If it makes you feel better, I think it was cause how bad twf and cf went is why he moved on.

It does, but I promised him photos of his mom getting slammed from the rear, and I havnt given him the photos yet

[marko138]

It does, but I promised him photos of his mom getting slammed from the rear, and I havnt given him the photos yet
Great American.