WTF is wrong with people?

[Rider]

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/07/31/canada_bus_stabbing.html

[marko138]

Everything is wrong with people.

[Rider]

Everything is wrong with people.

Yeah but to remove a motherfuckers head on a bus? :panic:

[marko138]

Shit happens I guess. :idk:

[the chi]

Oh dear gawd, thats terrible! Friggin A!

[dReWpY]

wtf

[azoomm]

That's horrible....

[Gunther1000]

Some times you just dont snore on a bus...

[OneSickPsycho]

I honestly think that's one of the coolest fucking things I've EVER heard.

[BobTheBiker]

even for someone like OSP, thats FUCKED UP.

[ontwo]

The initial report was that he didn't even know the guy. Talk about wrong place, wrong time. Jeez

[JK]

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[Amber Lamps]

See that's exactly why I switched to Trailways! You never see that kinda shit on their buses!

[Mr Lefty]

fuck that... they said he stabbed the guy 50 times... and no one stopped him? WTF?!

[NONE_too_SOFT]

PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Manitoba — A 40-year-old man who witnesses said stabbed and beheaded his seat mate on a Greyhound bus in Canada made his first court appearance Friday, while police offered no motive for the savage attack against the 22-year-old carnival worker.

I'm guessing the assailants daddy was a carni, and his mother was also his aunt, and they both put corn cobs in his butt and charged people five bucks to see it when they rolled into town.

[NONE_too_SOFT]

fuck that... they said he stabbed the guy 50 times... and no one stopped him? WTF?!

after the first few, do you really think its gonna matter? If you see somebody going for the world record amount of pushups do you go kick them in the ribs before they even get a chance to really pick it up?

[Mr Lefty]

:lol:

[Amber Lamps]

:lol::lol:

[Smittie61984]

Travelers in Canada armed with tools keep suspect at bay until police arrive

How it should have read. "Travelers in Canada armed GUNS keep suspect DEAD until police arrive"

Which before it starts I don't think guns would have saved the kid from dying once he was stabbed in the neck. But that guy could be dead right now and no longer a threat.

[Amber Lamps]

How it should have read. "Travelers in Canada armed GUNS keep suspect DEAD until police arrive"

Which before it starts I don't think guns would have saved the kid from dying once he was stabbed in the neck. But that guy could be dead right now and no longer a threat.

Yea knowing those uber-liberals,they'll probably put him in a nut house for 4-5 years and then let him back out!

[OneSickPsycho]

Yea knowing those uber-liberals,they'll probably put him in a nut house for 4-5 years and then let him back out!

And then ban all knives.

[Amber Lamps]

And then ban all knives.

I personally can't wait until the "Demolition Man" world comes about.... I really like Taco Bell!

[Dave]

dave is all about dystopian futures

[Amber Lamps]

dave is all about dystopian futures

and referring to himself in the third person....:whistle:

[Dave]

happens from time to time, we are legion

[Gas Man]

More people should be responsible gun owners!

[Crazy]

more fucked up humanity:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-bellwood-reckless-homicide-web-aug01,0,4883393.story?track=rss
that piece of shit is getting "up to" 14 years for "reckless homicide".

on a related note... anyone ever watch the show "Dexter" on showtime?

[Amber Lamps]

more fucked up humanity:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-bellwood-reckless-homicide-web-aug01,0,4883393.story?track=rss
that piece of shit is getting "up to" 14 years for "reckless homicide".

on a related note... anyone ever watch the show "Dexter" on showtime?

Yep,it was my ex's favorite show. On a side note,both the guys in your story were stupid. The biker had the guy's plate number,he should have let the guy go and called the cops. Heck,he could have said he was hit in a parking lot and it would have been a comprehensive claim instead of a collision claim which carries the risk of your insurance being raised regardless of fault. Obviously,the guy going to prison was stupid,a driving on suspended license charge is SLIGHTLY less severe than a homicide rap. Not being racial but it was funny to me how the story made out he had a "lengthy" police record but noted only driving on suspended and shoplifting.

[Amber Lamps]

More people should be responsible gun owners!


No,no,no...the Gov't should completely regulate our lives and has a responsibility to remove anything in which we could have the slightest possibly of harming ourselves in any way.:pat:

[Gas Man]

No,no,no...the Gov't should completely regulate our lives and has a responsibility to remove anything in which we could have the slightest possibly of harming ourselves in any way.:pat:
And you should go fuck yourself if you believe that shit!!! :D Respectivly.

[t-homo]

That shit is fucked up. Would no one else do whatever necessary to stop the attack before the guy is completely dead? If for no other reason to make the attacker be like a fuckin vegetable for the rest of his god forsaken life.

[WARputer]

That shit is fucked up. Would no one else do whatever necessary to stop the attack before the guy is completely dead? If for no other reason to make the attacker be like a fuckin vegetable for the rest of his god forsaken life.

My thoughts exactly ! There were 38 people on that bus and all ran for their lives when the bus stopped .....they may not of saved the kid but then again, they may have.....who knows. Being the dick that I am, I would've interviened .....I would've loved to ruin his beheading plan. :mad:

[t-homo]

My thoughts exactly ! There were 38 people on that bus and all ran for their lives when the bus stopped .....they may not of saved the kid but then again, they may have.....who knows. Being the dick that I am, I would've interviened .....I would've loved to ruin his beheading plan. :mad:

I would have loved to ruin him. They even had crowbars and shit.

[Gas Man]

I know this... I DO HAVE the right to kill this asshole dead if I believe he is threatening somebody else's life... and my glock has 10 rounds... just sayin... :D

[t-homo]

I can't wait until I am 23 so I can get my concealed carry license.

[Gas Man]

What does 23 have to do with it? Must be some crazy MO law!

I carry mine damn near all the time.

[Homeslice]

Update.......retarded :rolleyes:


Canada judge: Man not responsible for beheading
1 hr 45 mins ago
WINNIPEG, Manitoba – A Canadian judge ruled Thursday that a man accused of beheading and cannibalizing a fellow Greyhound bus passenger is not criminally responsible due to mental illness.

The decision means Chinese immigrant Vince Li will be treated in a mental institution instead of going to prison. The family of victim Tim McLean dismissed the trial as a "rubber stamp" that allows Li to get away with murder.

"A crime was still committed here, a murder still occurred," said Carol deDelley, McLean's mother. "There was nobody else on that bus holding a knife, slicing up my child."

The judge said Li should not be held criminally accountable for stabbing McLean dozens of times last July and dismembering his body while horrified passengers fled.

Justice John Scurfield said Li's attack was "grotesque" and "barbaric" but "strongly suggestive of a mental disorder."

"He did not appreciate the actions he committed were morally wrong. He believed he was acting in self-defense," Scurfield said.

Both the prosecution and the defense argued Li can't be held responsible because Li was suffering from schizophrenia and believed God wanted him to kill McLean because the young man was a force of evil.

He will be institutionalized without a criminal record and will be reassessed every year by a mental health review board to determine if he is fit for release into the community.

DeDelley said a yearly hearing is ridiculous, and that Li should be locked up for the rest of his life.

Li's trial barely lasted two days and only heard from two witnesses, both psychiatrists, who testified he is mentally ill.

That Li killed the 22-year-old carnival worker was never in question at the trial. Li has admitted he killed McLean but pleaded not guilty.

Witnesses said Li attacked McLean unprovoked as their bus traveled at night along a desolate stretch of the Trans-Canada Highway.

An agreed statement of facts between the prosecution and defense detailed how passengers stood outside the bus as Li stabbed McLean dozens of times and beheaded and mutilated his body. Finding himself locked inside the bus, Li finally escaped through a window and was arrested.

Li then apologized and pleaded with police to kill him.

Police said McLean's body parts were found throughout the bus in plastic bags, and the victim's ear, nose and tongue were found in Li's pocket.

A psychiatrist called by the prosecution Wednesday testified that Li cut up McLean's body because he believed that he would come back to life and take revenge.

After the trial, government prosecutor Joyce Dalmyn said McLean's family understood that she had to tell the court about Li's condition.

"The evidence was so overwhelming that he was not criminally responsible. I absolutely had an obligation to bring that to the court's attention, and the family understands and respects that," Dalmyn said.

She said people who are mentally ill should not be convicted when they don't know what they did was wrong.

"They need to be treated," she said. "I certainly agree in Mr. Li's case he needs to be treated for a very long time."

McLean's family is vowing to turn their attention to fighting the law that allows people who are found not criminally responsible to be released into the community once they are deemed well, without serving a minimum sentence in jail.

DeDelley said her son didn't die in vain. His death highlights concerns about the justice system, she said.

"Now people are aware that there is a problem," she said.

[Papa_Complex]

If someone sho does something like that in public isn't batfuck nuts, then I don't know who is.

Unfortunately as he has been diagnosed as schizophrenic, drugs will likely help to control his condition. I say unfortunately because once in control he'll be released, then likely decide for himself that he's cured and go off his meds, as is so often the case.

[Amorok]

Yeah, I'd have probably shot the guy. HEAR THAT TIGGER?! i'D HAVE SHOT THE GUY WITH MY CONCEALED WEAPON! AND MCLEAN WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE ALIVE!!! Of course, I'm just trying to be a tough guy, I don't really need to carry a gun. Bet the dead guy would have liked to have one, though.

[dReWpY]

fucked up

[azoomm]

Wow... even more horrible than originally thought. WOW.

[Smittie61984]

WTF?

I think I'm going to load silver bullets in my gun from now on. That way if I decide to murder someone I can claim insanity because I thought they were a warewolf. Plus I'll keep a wooden stake for Vampires too. Out of the mental institution in no time and back on with my life.

[Papa_Complex]

WTF?

I think I'm going to load silver bullets in my gun from now on. That way if I decide to murder someone I can claim insanity because I thought they were a warewolf. Plus I'll keep a wooden stake for Vampires too. Out of the mental institution in no time and back on with my life.

Buy some Dungeons and Dragons books. It's a cheaper insanity defence.

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah, I'd have probably shot the guy. HEAR THAT TIGGER?! i'D HAVE SHOT THE GUY WITH MY CONCEALED WEAPON! AND MCLEAN WOULD PROBABLY STILL BE ALIVE!!! Of course, I'm just trying to be a tough guy, I don't really need to carry a gun. Bet the dead guy would have liked to have one, though.


I wondered what you were talking about...Um...there was a busload of people there,any two or three of them could have stopped this if they had any balls. I could have stopped him without a gun but I guess I'm too big of a coward. Besides,it sounds as if this was a sudden attack,this guy would have already stabbed you before you even had a chance to pull. If you weren't the victim and you shot the guy,you probably wouldn't have been able to save McLean anyway. Who knows,maybe you could have,fuck in reality,for all you know a couple of the passengers may have been packing but were too afraid to actually DO anything. Anyway,it didn't take a gun to stop that shit,all that was needed were some balls!

[Tmall]

Coulda woulda.. The day you're faced with that situation, and actually do something ill believe it. Until then, its just chest pounding and bravado...

[Lamnidae]

Anyway,it didn't take a gun to stop that shit,all that was needed were some balls!

werd.


But c'mon, Ballz in Kanada? That's almost like Florida with no old people.

[Papa_Complex]

I wondered what you were talking about...Um...there was a busload of people there,any two or three of them could have stopped this if they had any balls. I could have stopped him without a gun but I guess I'm too big of a coward. Besides,it sounds as if this was a sudden attack,this guy would have already stabbed you before you even had a chance to pull. If you weren't the victim and you shot the guy,you probably wouldn't have been able to save McLean anyway. Who knows,maybe you could have,fuck in reality,for all you know a couple of the passengers may have been packing but were too afraid to actually DO anything. Anyway,it didn't take a gun to stop that shit,all that was needed were some balls!

It definitely was a sudden attack. The reports that I've read say that the attacker pulled his knife and stabbed the victim repeatedly. Before anyone had a clue what was going on, he was dead. All that a gun would have done in this case is eliminate the need for a trial and stop the dismemberment. It's not the best example for concealed carry.

Legal concealed carry is very rare in Canada. It exists, but the requirements make it an impossibility for the average citizen to obtain.

[cbrchick]

I don't believe a gun would have saved the kids life. Sadly. It would have ended nut-bar's though, perhaps.

I wouldn't blame the other peeps on the bus for not stopping this. I've dealt with people in psychotic rages. They are unstoppable. They are frightening. With situations like that, you don't put yourself in harms way unless in self defense. The kid was beyond repair. And, there was someone that barricaded nut-job in the bus and was prepared in case he got out. (in older reports) But who knows how many older/younger people were on that bus. Certain people ride buses.... I wouldn't expect grammie to stop the violent act. I'd get them off the bus.

My only hope it that this guy doesn't get out of long term care. He'll be in lock down in some institution. No one will want him out. If he made any effort to hurt himself, I don't know who would help him.

[Tmall]

And one other thing...

If you want me to believe you'd face off against a psychotic man with a knife, while he has the advantage of taking you on one at a time because of the design of the bus, and all the guys behind you would do is slow you down as you're getting stabbed 15-20 times, then you're almost as crazy as he is.


It's nice that you'd have wanted to do something. I'd have wanted to do something too.. But, my e-penis isn't so big that I don't realize it would have taken chuck norris to have ended that situation without a gun.

[Mr Lefty]

Coulda woulda.. The day you're faced with that situation, and actually do something ill believe it. Until then, its just chest pounding and bravado...

yeah I thought about that several times... if I was on the bus what would I have done... I firmly believe i'd have done something... I nearly got stabbed in Portland when a guy pulled a knife on my friend and tried to stab him in the back... ended up with just a little cut on my side that didn't even leave a scar... and a slice on my finger that took 4 stitches...

thing is... in that situation... for me at least... it was more just reaction... I didn't think it through... and honestly... think'n about it after... it scared the shit out of me... think'n what could have happened...

but yeah ya never know what you'd do till you do it... and would I have done the same in my situation if it wasn't my friend he was going after... honestly... probably not... just wouldn't have the same protective reaction... :idk:

[Amber Lamps]

Coulda woulda.. The day you're faced with that situation, and actually do something ill believe it. Until then, its just chest pounding and bravado...


True,but I've actually been in similar situations as a bouncer and as just a guy. Heck,I've actually been stabbed about 4 or 5 times... Man I can't wait to get to the rally so I can prove some of the shit I say! Hoodrat ftw? Hmmm...

[Amber Lamps]

And one other thing...

If you want me to believe you'd face off against a psychotic man with a knife, while he has the advantage of taking you on one at a time because of the design of the bus, and all the guys behind you would do is slow you down as you're getting stabbed 15-20 times, then you're almost as crazy as he is.


It's nice that you'd have wanted to do something. I'd have wanted to do something too.. But, my e-penis isn't so big that I don't realize it would have taken chuck norris to have ended that situation without a gun.



Yeah,yeah,yeah. You know this reminds me of the 911 airline situation and how two planeloads of people allowed a few guys with box cutters terrify them and one plane load fought back... I'm not trying to say I'm Chuck Norris but I'm also not some engineer or IT guy either. I've faced off against knives before,in fact I was in Jr High School the first time I was stabbed and have the scar to prove it. I'm not afraid of knives.I've had some training in hand to hand and a lot of real world experience. Whatever, I worked as a bouncer for 6 years in some of the biggest dives in Grand Rapids. I spent almost a decade in the Army and I spent most of my life in the hood. I am not afraid of a guy with a knife...period. Besides,it's very rare that I don't have a knife on me so at least we'd be on level ground.

[Papa_Complex]

And in this situation it wouldn't have saved the guy's life...period.

[Amber Lamps]

And in this situation it wouldn't have saved the guy's life...period.


Sorry,I didn't comment on your post but I agree,in fact I posed the "sudden attack" point myself. This could have been a busload of Sheriffs on their way to a convention and that kid would still probably be dead. I was just defending my um,"e-penis"...as I've said I look forward to meeting as many of you as possible.

[Homeslice]

Before anyone had a clue what was going on, he was dead.

We don't know this for sure. And honestly, I doubt anyone actually took the time to decide "Hmm, he looks dead already, so I don't need to help"..........Instead, sheer shock took over and they ran. Which is both pathetic, and understandable, given today's cushy society.

IMO he could possibly have been saved if 2-3 people on that bus had been big enough, experienced enough, and constantly aware of their surroundings......... But unfortunately those types of people are a needle in a haystack. For most people it would have taken 5-6 seconds of seeing what was happening before it even registered that someone was getting killed, and by that time the dude had already been stabbed 9-10 times.

[Tmall]

We don't know this for sure. And honestly, I doubt anyone actually took the time to decide "Hmm, he looks dead already, so I don't need to help"..........Instead, sheer shock took over and they ran. Which is both pathetic, and understandable, given today's cushy society.

IMO he could possibly have been saved if 2-3 people on that bus had been big enough, experienced enough, and constantly aware of their surroundings......... But unfortunately those types of people are a needle in a haystack. For most people it would have taken 5-6 seconds of seeing what was happening before it even registered that someone was getting killed.

Let me explain it better..

They were on a bus. An aisle is one person wide. A crazy motherfucker just cut somebody's throat and now he's hacking his head off with a big ass knife. You have no weapons. All the bravery in the world doesn't change the law of physics, only one of you can face him in that aisle.

Are you going to attack him hand to hand? Do you really think you'd Jet Li his ass and that would be it? In all likelihood, you'd be getting your head cut off by a crazy motherfucker with a big ass knife.

I'm no pansy. And I'm a fairly big dude with a pretty big e-penis. If somebody steps up to me, they'd only have to ask once and I'd gladly throw fists..

But, I'll say this again.. You'd be facing a crazy motherfucker who has a knife who just cut somebody's throat. You do understand the risks right? If you screw up, if any of the other heroes standing behind you block your way when you turn to run after he gut stabs you, you don't get to go home to your loved ones.

I'd like to think people who say they'd do something actually would. But... We all know the likelihood of that being true is about the same as the likelihood of me winning the lottery tonight.. ( and I didn't buy any tickets...)

[cbrchick]

Let me explain it better..

They were on a bus. An aisle is one person wide. A crazy motherfucker just cut somebody's throat and now he's hacking his head off with a big ass knife. You have no weapons. All the bravery in the world doesn't change the law of physics, only one of you can face him in that aisle.

Are you going to attack him hand to hand? Do you really think you'd Jet Li his ass and that would be it? In all likelihood, you'd be getting your head cut off by a crazy motherfucker with a big ass knife.

I'm no pansy. And I'm a fairly big dude with a pretty big e-penis. If somebody steps up to me, they'd only have to ask once and I'd gladly throw fists..

But, I'll say this again.. You'd be facing a crazy motherfucker who has a knife who just cut somebody's throat. You do understand the risks right? If you screw up, if any of the other heroes standing behind you block your way when you turn to run after he gut stabs you, you don't get to go home to your loved ones.

I'd like to think people who say they'd do something actually would. But... We all know the likelihood of that being true is about the same as the likelihood of me winning the lottery tonight.. ( and I didn't buy any tickets...)

+1

I'd just be getting people off the bus to safety. No being a hero there for me. I know my limitations. Least amount of casualties as possible.

+1

I'd just be getting people off the bus to safety. No being a hero there for me. I know my limitations. Least amount of casualties as possible.

HAHAH.....

I had no idea that happened... "plus one" get's a little pink dude holding a sign. I'm leaving that there just 'cuz. That made me laugh... :)

[Amber Lamps]

Let me explain it better..

They were on a bus. An aisle is one person wide. A crazy motherfucker just cut somebody's throat and now he's hacking his head off with a big ass knife. You have no weapons. All the bravery in the world doesn't change the law of physics, only one of you can face him in that aisle.

Are you going to attack him hand to hand? Do you really think you'd Jet Li his ass and that would be it? In all likelihood, you'd be getting your head cut off by a crazy motherfucker with a big ass knife.

I'm no pansy. And I'm a fairly big dude with a pretty big e-penis. If somebody steps up to me, they'd only have to ask once and I'd gladly throw fists..

But, I'll say this again.. You'd be facing a crazy motherfucker who has a knife who just cut somebody's throat. You do understand the risks right? If you screw up, if any of the other heroes standing behind you block your way when you turn to run after he gut stabs you, you don't get to go home to your loved ones.

I'd like to think people who say they'd do something actually would. But... We all know the likelihood of that being true is about the same as the likelihood of me winning the lottery tonight.. ( and I didn't buy any tickets...)

Okay you win...but people step up almost every day and face these kind of situations. I have in the past,I hope that I have the strength and the courage to do it again if necessary. In fact,some people put themselves at risk 24/7 just for us and you say that people don't have the courage to do something. Whatever. You're wrong-period. There are people out there who are willing to put themselves at risk to save you.

[Tmall]

Okay you win...but people step up almost every day and face these kind of situations. I have in the past,I hope that I have the strength and the courage to do it again if necessary. In fact,some people put themselves at risk 24/7 just for us and you say that people don't have the courage to do something. Whatever. You're wrong-period. There are people out there who are willing to put themselves at risk to save you.

:idk: I'm in the military and I live with a police officer. I know that people risk their lives for others every day. But, committing suicide to say you did something is idiotic at best.

There's a big difference between a police officer/ soldier doing their job and getting knifed to death by trying to be a hero.

[Tmall]

I bet you he's happy he tried to stop this fight..

http://uk.truveo.com/American-sailor-killed-in-Halifax-bar-fight/id/3974820853

At least he would, if he wasn't dead.

Btw, military trained... Still managed to get himself killed. And he didn't have insurmountable odds against him like the bus passengers.

[Flexin]

And one other thing...

If you want me to believe you'd face off against a psychotic man with a knife, while he has the advantage of taking you on one at a time because of the design of the bus, and all the guys behind you would do is slow you down as you're getting stabbed 15-20 times, then you're almost as crazy as he is.


It's nice that you'd have wanted to do something. I'd have wanted to do something too.. But, my e-penis isn't so big that I don't realize it would have taken chuck norris to have ended that situation without a gun.

Your right about the design of the bus. But after 911 are you really going to wait to see what he is going to do? If everyone does exactly what you say then there is a chance that he could try to kill everyone, one by one.

The best thing would be to get everyone away from him as fast as possible. The people willing and able to try to do something need to be between him and the people that can't defend themselves.

Its a fucked up case. Anyone that would straight up kill someone (without it being self defense) is mental. So we might as well drop the whole murder charges.

This is bullshit that he is getting off.

James

[Flexin]

Everyone who said they don't know how they would react is right. You don't know till it happens. It also depends on where you were sitting in that bus. If you were in the seat behind you would react one way and you might act completely different sitting in the front row by the door.

Me I don't like see people get hurt for no reason. I was driving down town one night and three guys walked out into the street in front of cars and two guys were beating on one guy. I was with my wife (then girl friend). I stopped the car and got out to help him. I to get between them while telling him to go. As I went to do it he stumbled away to a good spot. At this point he could have just left and would have been fine unless they chased him down. The dumb fuck turns back to fight the two guys. All three of them are loaded.

I said fuck that. I'm not getting my ass kicked for some dumb fuck that won't even help himself. Fuck for all I know his dumb ass could have attacked me when I was helping him. So I just got back in my car and drove off. There are always police on that street and I found one a block down. I stopped him and told him three drunks were fighting in the street and he went to take care of it.

One night I heard some noise outside. I looked out the window and some guys from across the street were arguing outside. The guy across the street had a bunch of people over. I went and laid back down. Then I heard a bottle smash. I looked out again to make sure people were not messing around with my truck.

When I looked out I noticed a guy mace another guy and then at least 4 people attacked him. He jumped in his car and was dragged back out. They started kicking him on the ground. I told Lisa to call 911 and tell them that a guy was being attacked by 4 or more guys. Then I ran to get dressed (being naked cost me a lot of time when shit like this goes down) I ran outside.

The guy got away at that point and was hiding somewhere. I stayed outside till the cops got there. I was told that the guy could be hiding in my back yard so I went out back to check. I didn't want the guy to get jumped but I don't know who he is so I don't want him hiding behind my place. But he wasn't there.

So my crazy ass went out to help out this guy that I didn't know. He got away just before I got out. But by me being out there they stopped looking for him.

My neighbor looked out and said he wasn't getting involved and went back to bed. His wife looked out to watch and said James is out there. He said no he isn't he wouldn't be out there. :lol: Wrong. My stupid ass was out there real quick. I just didn't like the fact that anyone of these guys could have beat this guy alone but they all jumped him.

James

[askmrjesus]

Everyone who said they don't know how they would react is right. You don't know till it happens. It also depends on where you were sitting in that bus. If you were in the seat behind you would react one way and you might act completely different sitting in the front row by the door.

Me I don't like see people get hurt for no reason.

I'm with you on this one. There's no way I could just sit there and not do something. Whether it would have helped or not...who knows?

Right after I got out of the Navy, I landed a crappy job as a night clerk at a motel in Eureka. One saturday night, I'm sitting in the back room of the office, smoking a joint with the owner's kid, when we hear some yelling coming from the parking lot. I figured it was just some drunk kids screwing around, but then the yelling turned to screaming, so I looked out the back window to see what was going on.

At first I didn't see anything. Then, up from between two parked cars, I saw a hand come up into the air. In the hand, was the biggest goddamn folding knife I've ever seen. The blade was about eight inches long, and there was blood pouring off of it. Then it went back down again. Fuck me, this can't be good.

I told the owner's kid to call the cops, and I grabbed the first thing that was handy, one of those POS folding metal mops that have the little squeegee action thing on the bottom. I ran to where the hand with knife was spotted, and came upon a HUGE baldheaded lumberjack looking motherfucker, stabbing the living shit out of my barber, who had a shop just down the street. Shit pissed me off. Not only was the dude stabbing my barber, but he totally fucked up a good buzz, so I commenced to whacking the shit out of him, with my limp-dick mop handle.

He hardly even noticed, (which pissed me off to no end) until I poked him in the eye with it. Then he finally stepped over the barber and came at me instead, which was kind of the idea I had in mind, but I hadn't really developed a plan as to what I was going to do after that. So, I jumped back about 20 feet in one fell swoop, my pot buzz having been replaced by more adrenaline than I thought was possible. Fucker wouldn't chase me though. He went back to stabbing the barber, and I went back to smacking him in the head with the mop handle untill he stood up again. This happened two more times. I ran, he went back to stabbing, the barber is bleeding out in the goddamn parking lot, and the fucking cops are nowhere to be seen, despite the fact that the cop shop is on the same block as the motel.

Out of nowhere, this dude come ripping into the parking lot, jumps out of his car and yells "FREEZE" while pointing his finger at the bald dude. Not pointing a gun mind you, just his finger. I look at the guy. The bald dude looks at the guy. The bald dude looks back at me like WTF? I don't have an answer, so I hit the bald dude with the mop again, even though I was tempted to hit finger boy instead.

Finally the cops show up, (with actual guns) and the bald dude surrenders on the spot.

Epilogue: There's blood everywhere, which I have to clean up. This sucks, because now I don't have a mop that works properly. I say "fuck this shit" and head directly to the bar at the bowling alley and drink 20 shots of Jack. The barber lived, after having been stabbed 41 times. I testify against giant lumberjack bald dude in court, and he hangs himself (dead) a few days later. When the barber recovers, he offers me free haircuts for life. These come in handy, because I have to look good for finding a new job, after the shithead motel owner fires me for drinking on the job the night the barber got stabbed.

JC

[Papa_Complex]

We don't know this for sure. And honestly, I doubt anyone actually took the time to decide "Hmm, he looks dead already, so I don't need to help"..........Instead, sheer shock took over and they ran. Which is both pathetic, and understandable, given today's cushy society.

IMO he could possibly have been saved if 2-3 people on that bus had been big enough, experienced enough, and constantly aware of their surroundings......... But unfortunately those types of people are a needle in a haystack. For most people it would have taken 5-6 seconds of seeing what was happening before it even registered that someone was getting killed, and by that time the dude had already been stabbed 9-10 times.

Actually we do. The attacker reportedly drew the knife and immediately stabbed the victim in the head, chest, and neck while pinning him in place. In less than a minute he had been stabbed maybe a dozen times. He likely wouldn't have lived if the attack had taken place in an emergency room.

[cbrchick]

Okay you win...but people step up almost every day and face these kind of situations. I have in the past,I hope that I have the strength and the courage to do it again if necessary. In fact,some people put themselves at risk 24/7 just for us and you say that people don't have the courage to do something. Whatever. You're wrong-period. There are people out there who are willing to put themselves at risk to save you.

There are people willing do to that. Some live, some don't. My first few shifts orientating in the ER, we got a stabbing on New Years Eve. This older African Canadian man stopped to intervene one behalf of this drunk white chickie and her drugged up boyfriend. All he saw was some guy beating up on his girlfriend. Not only does druggie insult the good guy, he stabs him 5 times.

This man was lucky, he's one of very few that survives a direct blow to the heart and has an open thoracotomy in the ER. The surgeon opened him up like a gutted fish and stuck his finger in his heart to basically block the whole from allowing blood to leak any further. First time I ever saw someone cut open and their lungs and heart displayed for the world to see. I'll never forget the smell.

Anyway, he lived. Got out 2 weeks later. I dunno if he'll ever stop again to help someone like he did.


I'd run out to help a child. I'll try to save someone in an accident. But I'm not going to risk my life all the time simply b/c I can. I learned that in life guarding. I learned that every time in CPR. I learned that every day I go to work. I learn that when I come home to my family. If you're not equiped to take some maniac on properly, you are adding to the problem. You're no hero. Your dead.

[Smittie61984]

This older African Canadian man stopped to intervene one behalf of this drunk white chickie and her drugged up boyfriend.

Hahahaha. Never heard that one before. You guys have a Jesse Jackson too?

As for the dude acting heroic. I've determined that women love to be beat and abused. So why ruin her fun? I'm sure after he knifed that "African-Canadian" she went home to give him crazy sex for standing up for her.

[cbrchick]

Hahahaha. Never heard that one before. You guys have a Jesse Jackson too?

As for the dude acting heroic. I've determined that women love to be beat and abused. So why ruin her fun? I'm sure after he knifed that "African-Canadian" she went home to give him crazy sex for standing up for her.

I dont know which part of your reply is more idiotic....

[Amber Lamps]

There are people willing do to that. Some live, some don't. My first few shifts orientating in the ER, we got a stabbing on New Years Eve. This older African Canadian man stopped to intervene one behalf of this drunk white chickie and her drugged up boyfriend. All he saw was some guy beating up on his girlfriend. Not only does druggie insult the good guy, he stabs him 5 times.

This man was lucky, he's one of very few that survives a direct blow to the heart and has an open thoracotomy in the ER. The surgeon opened him up like a gutted fish and stuck his finger in his heart to basically block the whole from allowing blood to leak any further. First time I ever saw someone cut open and their lungs and heart displayed for the world to see. I'll never forget the smell.

Anyway, he lived. Got out 2 weeks later. I dunno if he'll ever stop again to help someone like he did.


I'd run out to help a child. I'll try to save someone in an accident. But I'm not going to risk my life all the time simply b/c I can. I learned that in life guarding. I learned that every time in CPR. I learned that every day I go to work. I learn that when I come home to my family. If you're not equiped to take some maniac on properly, you are adding to the problem. You're no hero. Your dead.

So you are a lifeguard that would pick and choose who you save? Look,I understand what you are saying. The AC (I'm with Smittie that is funny to me as an AA) would have been better off if he had let that guy kill his GF,okay. I wonder if you'd feel that way if you were being raped or mugged? If you would think that all the people that walked by and did nothing were being "smart" by minding their own business.

[Amber Lamps]

Hahahaha. Never heard that one before. You guys have a Jesse Jackson too?

As for the dude acting heroic. I've determined that women love to be beat and abused. So why ruin her fun? I'm sure after he knifed that "African-Canadian" she went home to give him crazy sex for standing up for her.


The funniest thing about her use of "African Canadian" is an almost innate bigotry involved as it was unnecessary for anyone to know the race of the "hero". Why couldn't he just be a "guy"?

[Smittie61984]

I dont know which part of your reply is more idiotic....

I have yet to be proved wrong. Yesterday I got a phone call at 4am from a girl who's boyfriend hit her. She told me it was okay. I also work with cops a good bit and they share the same beliefs.

And why not just say it was a "Black" guy. Why the extra typing? Is he from Africa and now a Canadian citizen? If I moved to Canada would you refer to me in the story as an American-Canadian? What if I was born in Canada? Would I still be an "American-Canadian". Hyphen names are the dumbest crap I have ever heard. And I have only known two true African-Americans. Both were white.

[Adeptus_Minor]

You guys need to quit prodding the pregnant chick.
She's dangerous.

[cbrchick]

I have yet to be proved wrong. Yesterday I got a phone call at 4am from a girl who's boyfriend hit her. She told me it was okay. I also work with cops a good bit and they share the same beliefs.

And why not just say it was a "Black" guy. Why the extra typing? Is he from Africa and now a Canadian citizen? If I moved to Canada would you refer to me in the story as an American-Canadian? What if I was born in Canada? Would I still be an "American-Canadian". Hyphen names are the dumbest crap I have ever heard. And I have only known two true African-Americans. Both were white.

Yes, I imagine all women like to be beat up and abused...

Why didn't I use black, b/c I didn't. It's PC baby. I could say this guy, but I choose not to. We define color/race when we describe pt's. Some of y'all use African American, we live in Canada... hence, African Canadian.

[cbrchick]

You guys need to quit prodding the pregnant chick.
She's dangerous.

Especially since it's 9 degree C outside and I just cleaned my damm car and not my motorcycle...

This is going to be a long summer of no riding. :(

[Tmall]

Again tigger... Stopping a rape and defending a dead body with your life are two very different things...

What loosely based comparison will you use next? Walking by a burning kid so as to not set your pants on fire?

[askmrjesus]

I dont know which part of your reply is more idiotic....

It is kind of hard to pick.

I'd just go with the whole thing.

JC

[Smittie61984]

Yes, I imagine all women like to be beat up and abused...

Why didn't I use black, b/c I didn't. It's PC baby. I could say this guy, but I choose not to. We define color/race when we describe pt's. Some of y'all use African American, we live in Canada... hence, African Canadian.

Rihana loves it. Women love drama, and physical abuse is the holy grail for women and their relationships.

I joined a new gym yesterday. A couple days before a woman showed me around and I decided to use her since she showed me around. She did the work, so she should get the credit. When describing her to the front staff because I forgot her name I described her as "Tall, Black, and short curly hair". As soon as I said black they said her name with no one taking offense. Though she is Obama colored.

[Amber Lamps]

I have yet to be proved wrong. Yesterday I got a phone call at 4am from a girl who's boyfriend hit her. She told me it was okay. I also work with cops a good bit and they share the same beliefs.

And why not just say it was a "Black" guy. Why the extra typing? Is he from Africa and now a Canadian citizen? If I moved to Canada would you refer to me in the story as an American-Canadian? What if I was born in Canada? Would I still be an "American-Canadian". Hyphen names are the dumbest crap I have ever heard. And I have only known two true African-Americans. Both were white.



I still don't understand why it had to be a "black" guy either...who cares what his race was? How it that Germain to the story?

[Amber Lamps]

Again tigger... Stopping a rape and defending a dead body with your life are two very different things...

What loosely based comparison will you use next? Walking by a burning kid so as to not set your pants on fire?


What? There were more than just the one guy being killed used as an example. I believe she was the one that brought up a guy and girl fighting and another person stepping in to help. I was remarking to HER example specifically. Read all the posts before you accuse me of anything please. I've already moved past the dead guy on the bus and once again was the one who initially pointed out that he was probably dead before anyone could react. Although you never know...my Uncle stabbed my Aunt 17 times and she lived. Luckily she wasn't surrounded by a bunch of pansies and some guys stepped in to stop the attack.

[Flexin]

Speaking of the guy on the bus. Because of the design of it (as was pointed out) you wouldn't know how many times he stabbed the guy. Which means you would not know the condition of the guy. So if this is the case then by not doing anything you just let the guy die.

And there is a good chance that someone sitting on the Greyhound will have a book bag or a big ass purse. Both of this can be used as a weapon.

And after reading this thread last night I was watching Spike TV and they had a crazy video/police type thing on. Well in one video 5 GUYS stormed into a restaurant with guys demanding money. They some went around to rob the customers as well. One guy was slow handing over his stuff so they used a stun gun on him. Then they went to the next couple. After that they went to the next booth that had a family in it.

Guess what happen? Right or wrong the the son who was there with his family and is girlfriend, walked over the table and backed the two robbers with guns up to the back of the place. He was doing fine till another one came from behind a wall and hit him behind his head which put him on the floor. When this happened his father charged in with baby chair and his started hitting guys with it. Not long after he was shot in the chest and the robbers ran off.

Everyone lived.

In that case I would just handed over the money. I can make more money but I can't replace my family. If I feel like my family will be hurt if I give my money over or not then I would do what this guy did.

If someone pulls a gun on me once and doesn't kill me and I see their face...and then see them at a later date without the gun in their hand...all hell is going to break lose.

And before Nick calls me out on this. I had one pulled on me, and then mace a couple of months ago so keep and eye on the local papers.

James

[Flexin]

I still don't understand why it had to be a "black" guy either...who cares what his race was? How it that Germain to the story?

Hey I'm find with race coming into play when someone is saying a black man helped someone out. Seems like it always comes in to play when a black man does something wrong so its a good change.

James

[Amber Lamps]

Hey I'm find with race coming into play when someone is saying a black man helped someone out. Seems like it always comes in to play when a black man does something wrong so its a good change.

James

Yea I thought about that my African Canadian brother! I just foolishly wish that it didn't have to be pointed out either way,that's all. Maybe someday.... WHEN ALL US HALFBREEDS TAKE OVER THAT IS!!!! Hahahahhahahahahahaaa!!!!

[Homeslice]

Hey I'm find with race coming into play when someone is saying a black man helped someone out. Seems like it always comes in to play when a black man does something wrong so its a good change.

James

This is true. Whenever a white guy posts a story about something that happened to them, like their bike got stolen, or they were at Burger King and someone cut in front of them, they always say "some black dude" or "some mexican dude". As if the race of the person makes the story more interesting. You never hear them say "some white guy".

[askmrjesus]

This is true. Whenever a white guy posts a story about something that happened to them, like their bike got stolen, or they were at Burger King and someone cut in front of them, they always say "some black dude" or "some mexican dude". As if the race of the person makes the story more interesting. You never hear them say "some white guy".

It's simply a descriptor. It helps paint a mental picture of the situation.

I didn't have to mention that the dude I whacked with a mop handle was bald, since it was not germane to the story, (actually, it was, but I left that part of the story out since I was already way over the five line rule) but it's more interesting to include at least a basic description of the person you're talking about.

Tigger has his panties in a bunch because cbrchick had the gall to describe the person she was talking about. Fucking hell, onions have thicker skin.

Oh shit, now I've done it. I've insulted onions.

JC

[Homeslice]

It's simply a descriptor. It helps paint a mental picture of the situation.


This is fine as long as it's consistently applied. But it's not. I never hear a white dude starting a story off by saying "Some white dude cut in front of me today". I just think it's funny.

[Flexin]

BTW I wanted to make something clear. Not all woman like to have a man that is going to kick their ass when ever they feel like it. Some stupid fuckers do some don't.

I know someone that does go back after that shit happens. Her stupid ass can't call my for fuck all any more. Next time she can call 911 rather then my number because I'm not doing shit for her ever again. Never before did I ever turn my back on a family until a couple of months ago. Her stupid ass is the first and only.

Now I know someone else that didn't like it and she packed up her kids and took off. Done. That was it. Shit stopped right there. Not all women like it or will put up with it.

James

[Adeptus_Minor]

BTW I wanted to make something clear. Not all woman like to have a man that is going to kick their ass when ever they feel like it. Some stupid fuckers do some don't.

I know someone that does go back after that shit happens. Her stupid ass can't call my for fuck all any more. Next time she can call 911 rather then my number because I'm not doing shit for her ever again. Never before did I ever turn my back on a family until a couple of months ago. Her stupid ass is the first and only.

Now I know someone else that didn't like it and she packed up her kids and took off. Done. That was it. Shit stopped right there. Not all women like it or will put up with it.

James

It's a good policy.
The ones that keep going back are 'broken' and you going back in there isn't going to fix them. They either have to wake up and smell the Absorbine Jr. on their own or suffer through it until they reach a breaking point.

Truth is, abuse is an ugly situation and the reason a lot of us rant against it and show such contempt for the people involved is because it makes us feel helpless.
We see something that needs to be fixed and yet we know we can't fix it.
Sometimes our protective instincts get the better of us and we try to get involved, but all too often that just ends in pain and disappointment.

[Amber Lamps]

It's a good policy.
The ones that keep going back are 'broken' and you going back in there isn't going to fix them. They either have to wake up and smell the Absorbine Jr. on their own or suffer through it until they reach a breaking point.

Truth is, abuse is an ugly situation and the reason a lot of us rant against it and show such contempt for the people involved is because it makes us feel helpless.
We see something that needs to be fixed and yet we know we can't fix it.
Sometimes our protective instincts get the better of us and we try to get involved, but all too often that just ends in pain and disappointment.


Absolutely true!