Higher end sports/luxury car choices...

[G-Rex]

I'm beginning to get..er...for lack of a better word, bored with my Corvette. I'm slowly losing interest in it.

She's fast and pretty, yes. She's also noisy, rattly, and a bitch to get in and out of.

I'm contemplating what my next 4 wheeled play toy will be. I'm mostly considering Mercedes, BMW, Porsche...that ilk of car basically.

Who has what, and would or would *not* recommend a particular brand/model?

I'm all ears.

[Captain Morgan]

Can't help with ideas, but what year is the 'vette?

[derf]

Out of those I would say BMW (really you cant go wrong with the high end cars). If you really want a cool distinct sport car with gobs for power and more than enough fun look up the M coupe, either z3 or z4 version. I am a fan of the z3 version, but have heard good things about the z4 version as well

[Homeslice]

If you are talking used, I wouldn't recommend a German car, even if you do the work yourself. Parts prices are ridiculous, and the engineering is over-complicated. Buy the car new, or under a certified pre-owned program. And then dump it before the warranty ends.

[fasternyou929]

If you are talking used, I wouldn't recommend a German car, even if you do the work yourself. Parts prices are ridiculous, and the engineering is over-complicated. Buy the car new, or under a certified pre-owned program. And then dump it before the warranty ends.

Yep. If you want a sporty luxury car, the 550i can be found for good prices used. Definitely a luxury ride, and will push you back in the seat when you get on the right pedal. Find one with the M sport package and you can get very close to M5 performance and looks, sans M5 sticker shock.

[Gas Man]

Austin Martin

[pauldun170]

BMW 1 series M if you can find one
Caddy CTS-v coupe or wagon
Cayman
Mustang Shelby GT500
1988 MR-2 sucpercharged

[Dave]

stay far the fuck away from anything out of germany.

Im with Paul. AW11 with the 4AGEZ

[TommyHotWheel]

CTS-V was just an absolute joy to drive, but if you want a fun little car, Mini S was just fun as hell to drive and dart through traffic.

[RACER X]

Price range?

[Flexin]

My boss just bought a 07 911. The problem is, I don't know if it will be any easier to get out of then a Corvette would be.

As far as don't buy this and don't buy that, I live by the buy what you love. They are all expensive. If you love a vehicle the cost doesn't hurt as much.

What are you looking for? 2 door? 4 door? Price? Year range?

James

[VatorMan]

The only cars close to the performance of my Grand Sport cost $120K or more unless your talking about a GT-R. Fugly and fukkin fast.

If you want to look pretty and be limited to 155mph- cant beat a Merc SLS. AMG of course.

[dReWpY]

AuDi rs4

[dReWpY]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/rs4-v-climbers

[VatorMan]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/rs4-v-climbers

Don't be that pussy. Get an R8 if you're gonna go Audi.

[goof2]

Price range?

This.

Also what do you want to be different about the car compared to your Vette? Sportier, more luxurious, more seats, more cache?

Without knowing any of that the options could run from Ariel Atom/Caterham 7, to Jag XKR/Merc SL, to E55/Jag XJR.

[azoomm]

No way I would ever recommend an Ariel Atom. No way. That thing shouldn't be on the street unless you want to hurt yourself.

[EpyonXero]

Whatever you get, just make sure you know how to drive it. redflip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pgm8I0B8bY

[Homeslice]

Don't be that pussy. Get an R8 if you're gonna go Audi.

For the price of that, I'd want something that actually looks like a sportscar

Audi is way too conservative IMO. And their Kenworth-like grills are getting old.

Lotus Evora or Porsche Cayman all the way.

[VatorMan]

For the price of that, I'd want something that actually looks like a sportscar

Audi is way too conservative IMO. And their Kenworth-like grills are getting old.

Lotus Evora or Porsche Cayman all the way.

You have chosen 2 of the gayest cars out there. One powered by a Toyota and one that is a poor mans 911.

If you've ever driven a Lotus, you know how much it sucks driving around town. Great on the track, but a real PITA as a regular driver.

[goof2]

No way I would ever recommend an Ariel Atom. No way. That thing shouldn't be on the street unless you want to hurt yourself.

Most on here ride motorcycles and G-Rex rides a hell of a lot more than most. That indicates less risk sensitivity than average to me. The average modern sportbike has similar performance to an Atom, only with even less protection. If I had that kind of money to spend on impractical toys I would have a supercharged Atom and a Caterham 7 Superlight R500 parked next to it.:lol:

[Homeslice]

You have chosen 2 of the gayest cars out there. One powered by a Toyota and one that is a poor mans 911.

If you've ever driven a Lotus, you know how much it sucks driving around town. Great on the track, but a real PITA as a regular driver.

IMO "gay" means heavy and focused on comfort, which is the Audi.

[azoomm]

Most on here ride motorcycles and G-Rex rides a hell of a lot more than most. That indicates less risk sensitivity than average to me. The average modern sportbike has similar performance to an Atom, only with even less protection. If I had that kind of money to spend on impractical toys I would have a supercharged Atom and a Caterham 7 Superlight R500 parked next to it.:lol:

No no... The damn thing will break and kill you in the process. :wink: if you are going that ridiculous, go Radical rather than Atom.

And, don't get a Lotus unless you like fixing electrical.

[Corey]

The solution is the ultra luxurious and super sporty Ford Pinto.

[defector]

So does a Caddy CTS-V not fit into this category?
I got my hands one of those for a weekend. Holy hell, I want one of those.

[shmike]

SL 63 but only if you are under 5'10".

[Cutty72]

The solution is the ultra luxurious and super sporty Ford Pinto.

Na, if you want classic go Festiva.

http://www.fordfestiva.com/concepts/FuzenPride.htm

If you want new and modern, talk go Gas, go Fiesta. :lol:

http://www.oldcars.biz/cars/ford-fiesta-2012-better-design-23.jpg

[Gas Man]

Both look great there... The Fiesta is the wifes, I have the Volvo... and the Festiva was my first car at 16YO

[Sean]

You have chosen 2 of the gayest cars out there. One powered by a Toyota and one that is a poor mans 911.


Spoken like someone who knows nothing about cars! Take a Cayman for a lap around a track one day and tell me if it's still a "chick car".

[VatorMan]

Spoken like someone who knows nothing about cars! Take a Cayman for a lap around a track one day and tell me if it's still a "chick car".

I just spent the day passing twin turbo Porsches and hanging with Gt2s and Gt3s. Even the Porsche guys don't recognize Caymans. I'll post a Watkins Glen vid later.

[Homeslice]

A standard 911 offers nothing over a Cayman, unless you splurge on one of the special models.

[Flexin]

A standard 911 offers nothing over a Cayman, unless you splurge on one of the special models.

Leg room. My boss had a Boxster and likes the Cayman but his is a drop top fan so he went with the 911. And he likes that the 911 is Porsches top dog. He admits that the Cayman S is about as fast as a base 911.

James

[azoomm]

A standard 911 offers nothing over a Cayman, unless you splurge on one of the special models.
That is a weird statement.

[Dave]

The solution is the ultra luxurious and super sporty Ford Pinto.

a pinto with a turbocoupe swap and a modicum of tuning would be a fucking beast.

[derf]

a pinto with a turbocoupe swap and a modicum of tuning would be a fucking beast.

Did you sell the NSX yet? I bet you can sell that to trace and that would solve both of your problems

[RACER X]

AF1 (aprilia shop) owner Micah will be selling his NSX soon

[RACER X]

local Lambo down

not a typical Gallardo., Gallardo LP570-4 Spyder Performante (top dog of gallardo's)

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/18637865/lamborghini-wrecks-near-galleria

[Dave]

Did you sell the NSX yet? I bet you can sell that to trace and that would solve both of your problems

Maybe this week, got some interested parties

[derf]

local Lambo down

not a typical Gallardo., Gallardo LP570-4 Spyder Performante (top dog of gallardo's)

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/18637865/lamborghini-wrecks-near-galleria

I'll bet any amount of money that they fucked with the door handles a little bit then said "yep, we'll have to cut this guy out" while the dude inside insists that he can open the door and the firemen slam it back shut just so they can cut up a lambo.

[Homeslice]

That is a weird statement.

2012 Cayman S $62K, 320hp

2012 base 911 $81K, 350hp

So for $19K, you get 30 more horsepower (and more weight, which negates the extra power). In essence all you're getting with the 911 is a little more room, and the priviledge of not getting called "gay" by people who think that small cars are gay for some reason.

[azoomm]

2012 Cayman S $62K, 320hp

2012 base 911 $81K, 350hp

So for $19K, you get 30 more horsepower (and more weight, which negates the extra power). In essence all you're getting with the 911 is a little more room, and the priviledge of not getting called "gay" by people who think that small cars are gay for some reason.

No, it's a 911. It's sexy, and well, maybe you just don't get it. Drive one back to back and you'll understand. I don't know how else to put it. That and I'm posting from my phone and I'm not going to type that much from this screen. :lol:

[fasternyou929]

Over 3 weeks and Tracy hasn't come back to post anything. This thread disappoints!

[Trip]

I will link his ass in facebook

[VatorMan]

No, it's a 911. It's sexy, and well, maybe you just don't get it. Drive one back to back and you'll understand. I don't know how else to put it. That and I'm posting from my phone and I'm not going to type that much from this screen. :lol:

Only people that truly use their cars (and bikes) for their intended designed purpose understand. Others are clueless.

[Trip]

Only people that truly use their cars (and bikes) for their intended designed purpose understand. Others are clueless.

Actually everyone that buys them, does get to benefit from their intended design purpose. Every factory built consumer car and bike is designed for one specific purpose, to sell... That's it. That's the simple philosphy behind every car developed.

99% of the population can't use any vehicle ever made to it's potential operating characteristics.

[G-Rex]

The list is narrowed down to a few. LOL.

I was wonderin' when someone would notice I hadn't replied to this thread yet.

I will say that one of you are very close to what I'm leaning towards.

[Homeslice]

No, it's a 911. It's sexy, and well, maybe you just don't get it. Drive one back to back and you'll understand. I don't know how else to put it. That and I'm posting from my phone and I'm not going to type that much from this screen. :lol:

After seeing the same basic design for decades, I don't really think 911's are special anymore. That, and the magazines say that the 911 has no handling advantage over the Cayman, and in fact one of them said that the Cayman drives like the 911 should. Yes, I know magazines are just magazines, but until one of you actually describes what the 911's advantage is, I'm in the dark here.

[pauldun170]

The list is narrowed down to a few. LOL.

I was wonderin' when someone would notice I hadn't replied to this thread yet.

I will say that one of you are very close to what I'm leaning towards.

You can't go wrong with MR-2 SC.
I knew we were on the same page.

[Dave]

You can't go wrong with MR-2 SC.
I knew we were on the same page.

Broseph he's clearly going 2.3 Turbo pinto. Gonna be pulling wheels like woah at every stoplight...

[Homeslice]

240SX notchback with a SR20DET and a Silvia bodykit and Advan RG rimz..........tight

[Dave]

No, it's a 911. It's sexy, and well, maybe you just don't get it. Drive one back to back and you'll understand. I don't know how else to put it. That and I'm posting from my phone and I'm not going to type that much from this screen. :lol:

No its an anachronism. :P

[Dave]

So as I'm posting a panamera rolls by and my boy comments about dat Porsche to which I reply that Porsches are fucking terrible and he says I seen this 911 the other day but I know how much you hate 911s and I say woah I'm literally right now am ripping the 911 on my phone lol

[Trip]

I think you should take your Busa's engine and put it in a Smart. Every time I see that Smart Diablo video on youtube, I crack the fuck up. Seeing a smart blow the doors off people would be f'in hilarious. Car would probably drive like shit though.

[Homeslice]

99% of the population can't use any vehicle ever made to it's potential operating characteristics.

Even pro racers can't. An android like Data would acheive better times.

[Trip]

Even pro racers can't. An android would acheive better times.

true, lol

You also got pro racers who go out and buy these exotic cars and just keep em pretty in a garage or roll around in town with them. However most of them probably have signed contracts that say that's all they can do with them, :lol:

[pauldun170]

Broseph he's clearly going 2.3 Turbo pinto. Gonna be pulling wheels like woah at every stoplight...

Awesome turbo pinto project + g-rex

It just sounds right.

[pauldun170]

240SX notchback with a SR20DET and a Silvia bodykit and Advan RG rimz..........tight

G-rex is asian man in his early twenties still living in his parents house?
Or is he teenage suburban white kid who still drives moms minivan but dreams big getting a sr490tdI JDM spec with mad modz so he can like compete ata car showz and shit. (Getting mad pussy yo)

I thought kids like iPhones...not cars?

Wait now I confused myself.
How old is G-Rex? I thought he was creepy man in van age?

[pauldun170]

Even pro racers can't. An android like Data would acheive better times.

Speaking of which...
I thought you should know I now have a smart phone and it is an android so when you said that...I told my phone to call me Geordi.

[Homeslice]

G-rex is asian man in his early twenties still living in his parents house?
Or is he teenage suburban white kid who still drives moms minivan but dreams big getting a sr490tdI JDM spec with mad modz so he can like compete ata car showz and shit. (Getting mad pussy yo)

I thought kids like iPhones...not cars?

Wait now I confused myself.
How old is G-Rex? I thought he was creepy man in van age?

You started it, with your whole MR2 thing..
There are only 2 people who still drive MR2s...
18-25 year old whites & asians....
And 65+ retired white dudes who use it as an SCCA autocrosser
Don't think g-rex falls into either category..

[pauldun170]

You started it, with your whole MR2 thing..
There are only 2 people who still drive MR2s...
18-25 year old whites & asians....
And 65+ retired white dudes using it as a stripped-down SCCA autocrosser
Don't think g-rex falls into either category..

I usually have a pretty thick skin, but I took that as a personal attack.
You can be pretty mean sometimes.

[Homeslice]

Speaking of which...
I thought you should know I now have a smart phone and it is an android so when you said that...I told my phone to call me Geordi.

nee'a whut?

[Homeslice]

I usually have a pretty thick skin, but I took that as a personal attack.
You can be pretty mean sometimes.

so is there a red-faded-to-pink MR2 sitting on blocks in your front yard? lulz

[pauldun170]

so is there a red-faded-to-pink MR2 sitting on blocks in your front yard? lulz

Excuse...I have a garage.
It would be up on jackstands in my garage.

[VatorMan]

I think you should take your Busa's engine and put it in a Smart. Every time I see that Smart Diablo video on youtube, I crack the fuck up. Seeing a smart blow the doors off people would be f'in hilarious. Car would probably drive like shit though.

One of the guys in our group has a Seven knockoff with a Hayabusa engine in it. He surprises a lot of people with that thing. He hauls it on a garden trailer it's so light.

[CasterTroy]

I focus on this.... a bitch to get in and out of



and think a E39 M5 would be perfect.

[Flexin]

After seeing the same basic design for decades, I don't really think 911's are special anymore. That, and the magazines say that the 911 has no handling advantage over the Cayman, and in fact one of them said that the Cayman drives like the 911 should. Yes, I know magazines are just magazines, but until one of you actually describes what the 911's advantage is, I'm in the dark here.

My boss had a Boxster a few years ago and has the 911 I posted earlier. He seems to think that handling wise his Boxster was a bit better with the mid engine. The 911 is so different his isn't sure what he can do in it yet. The thing is pretty fast. He took me for a quick drive in it.

He missed out on doing a performance school with it. He should do it to find out what he can do with the car and just enjoy it in a "safer" environment.

James

[RACER X]

Cayman is a great car, but it's no 911

[azoomm]

Boxster? Please. A boxster is the car rich guys buy their wives when they feel bad that she has to drive the kids around in the minivan all day.

Pfffffffffffft. Boxster.

[shmike]

Boxster? Please. A boxster is the car rich guys buy their wives when they feel bad that she has to drive the kids around in the minivan all day.

Pfffffffffffft. Boxster.

:lol

[Trip]

Don't get any porsche, all porsche owners a cock sucking douchebags.

[CasterTroy]

Seems appropriate (http://vimeo.com/43035679)

[RACER X]

^ great vid!

i will own 1 one day!

[Sixxxxer]

Don't get any porsche, all porsche owners a cock sucking douchebags.

And Benz Owners, and BMW Owners, and Audi Owners...

:lol

It's about bucking the trend, Like Vette Owners (Who also classify in that category) 99% of Vette owners are old retired dudes. But everynow and then you get an owner who drives it like it was built for not just cruising down the highway at 50.

Who cares what the stigma of that car brand is like, buy what makes you happy to get in the damn thing everyday.

[Trip]

It's an opinion thread, so fuck off. LOL

[Sixxxxer]

It's an opinion thread, so fuck off. LOL


And I gave it...so fuck off :lol

[Homeslice]

Boxster? Please. A boxster is the car rich guys buy their wives when they feel bad that she has to drive the kids around in the minivan all day.

Pfffffffffffft. Boxster.

Right, cuz no guy could possibly want to save a lot of money, and get a drop-top to boot.

[RACER X]

I bet there are more Cayman drivers who wish they had/could afford a 911 vs the opposite.

[Trip]

I bet there are more Cayman drivers who wish they had/could afford a 911 vs the opposite.

That's like saying I bet there are more millionaires that want to be billionaires than the opposite.

Of course more people want the more expensive shit.

[Homeslice]

I bet there are more Cayman drivers who wish they had/could afford a 911 vs the opposite.

Actually I bet most of them think "Man its cool to have an extra $20K to spend on 2 new motorcycles, or a new roof for my home"

[Flexin]

And Benz Owners, and BMW Owners, and Audi Owners...

:lol

It's about bucking the trend, Like Vette Owners (Who also classify in that category) 99% of Vette owners are old retired dudes. But everynow and then you get an owner who drives it like it was built for not just cruising down the highway at 50.

Who cares what the stigma of that car brand is like, buy what makes you happy to get in the damn thing everyday.

Truth.

James

[VatorMan]

And Benz Owners, and BMW Owners, and Audi Owners...

:lol

It's about bucking the trend, Like Vette Owners (Who also classify in that category) 99% of Vette owners are old retired dudes. But everynow and then you get an owner who drives it like it was built for not just cruising down the highway at 50.

Who cares what the stigma of that car brand is like, buy what makes you happy to get in the damn thing everyday.

Yea, I agree. Chevy puts out a great platform and it gets stuck in old man land. BUT-if you can see past that, you can do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Y159NAecM

[Sixxxxer]

Thats what I'm talking about!! That looks like a blast...I'd love to run the Glen...Back when I used to be big into NASCAR...Lol

[VatorMan]

Thats what I'm talking about!! That looks like a blast...I'd love to run the Glen...Back when I used to be big into NASCAR...Lol

A couple more....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvKIvTCFH6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1VHr_SjL_4

[VatorMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1VHr_SjL_4[/youtube]

[fasternyou929]

This was one of the dumber posts I've read
Cayman is a great car, but it's no 911
until I scrolled down to this one.
I bet there are more Cayman drivers who wish they had/could afford a 911 vs the opposite.

No wonder Z never spends time on forums with you anymore. lol

[azoomm]

Don't get any porsche, all porsche owners a cock sucking douchebags.

After managing at the track and running events, I can tell you with absolute clarity, I'd rather have 200 Porsche guys at the track than 5 BMW guys. Beemer guys suck. Especially the guys part of the club. It was embarrassing.

Did y'all just throw out a hug and a cookie with the "it's what makes you happy" :lol: nice.

[Trip]

After managing at the track and running events, I can tell you with absolute clarity, I'd rather have 200 Porsche guys at the track than 5 BMW guys. Beemer guys suck. Especially the guys part of the club. It was embarrassing.

Did y'all just throw out a hug and a cookie with the "it's what makes you happy" :lol: nice.

It's the same people, old pedantic douchebags. You forget, I get to meet every club by going to the gap a lot.

Miata fuckers are still the worst. Fucking Miata owners.

[tommymac]

It's the same people, old pedantic douchebags. You forget, I get to meet every club by going to the gap a lot.

Miata fuckers are still the worst. Fucking Miata owners.

Like that miatta guy we met on the blue ridge last year :lol:

[Homeslice]

Of course Miata drivers are the worst, they develop that attitude because everyone insists on calling them gay just because they drive a small car with limited power........(even though it is more fun to drive than any POS muscle car)

[CasterTroy]

I'd rather have 200 Porsche guys at the track than 5 BMW guys. Beemer guys suck. Especially the guys part of the club. It was embarrassing.
.

There's something about buying a "sedan" that is "supposed" to keep up with a corvette (M3) that gives a dousche the biggest chip imaginable to place on their shoulder.

If the corvette was the benchmark....WTF didn't you JUST BUY A CORVETTE?

And honestly, I couldn't agree more with Moira.

[Sixxxxer]

There's something about buying a "sedan" that is "supposed" to keep up with a corvette (M3) that gives a dousche the biggest chip imaginable to place on their shoulder.

If the corvette was the benchmark....WTF didn't you JUST BUY A CORVETTE?

And honestly, I couldn't agree more with Moira.

Sit in an M3 than Sit in a Vette. :lol

Though the C5 and C6's have stepped up there interior game and is by no means cheap...The inside of an M3 is definitely nicer.

With that being said, Give me a 335i Chipped and a full exhaust and I'l gladly keep up with a "Stock" vette.

[Homeslice]

With that being said, Give me a 335i Chipped and a full exhaust and I'l gladly keep up with a "Stock" vette.

I am not so sure about that, but the 335 does packs a lot of punch

[Sixxxxer]

It would keep up. Really depends on how much of a tune you could get out of the 335...But it should put you on par with a Stock M3, Damn close anyway.

If i had my choice though I'd go with an Audi S4 if we're talking Performance Sedans. Less power...I just like Audi's Styling more. And with some work it can get close to 400 ponies quick.

[VatorMan]

Sit in an M3 than Sit in a Vette. :lol

Though the C5 and C6's have stepped up there interior game and is by no means cheap...The inside of an M3 is definitely nicer.

With that being said, Give me a 335i Chipped and a full exhaust and I'l gladly keep up with a "Stock" vette.

I'll be at VIR in July. My Vette is pretty much stock (headers). I'll buy you dinner if I don't beat your best time by 2 seconds.

[tommymac]

I'll be at VIR in July. My Vette is pretty much stock (headers). I'll buy you dinner if I don't beat your best time by 2 seconds.

Is it the south course? and can I try on my gsxr :lol:

[CasterTroy]

Sit in an M3 than Sit in a Vette. :lol




I've driven both. I too would prefer the M3 as an all around car. But it I were looking for a track molester.....I have to admit I'd buy a corvette. Mainly because for the money, I could spend less overall and have more of a car.


But what I can't wrap my head around is why so many "cock's" (as Clarkson would say) continue to make the corvette the benchmark to TRY and beat?!?!

But then again....I don't understand why you'd dump an additional $10k into a civic just to try and beat mustangs/camaro/challengers either.


I'll be at VIR in July.

What weekend? VIR club day? What org? I'd love to be out there watching you pass me! Next big question would be will the wife LET me take her pinto GL convertible to VIR to play?!?!?!

[Sixxxxer]

I'll be at VIR in July. My Vette is pretty much stock (headers). I'll buy you dinner if I don't beat your best time by 2 seconds.

I dont have a 335 to accept the Bet :lol

[VatorMan]

Is it the south course? and can I try on my gsxr :lol:


HELL no. :lol


I've driven both. I too would prefer the M3 as an all around car. But it I were looking for a track molester.....I have to admit I'd buy a corvette. Mainly because for the money, I could spend less overall and have more of a car.


But what I can't wrap my head around is why so many "cock's" (as Clarkson would say) continue to make the corvette the benchmark to TRY and beat?!?!

But then again....I don't understand why you'd dump an additional $10k into a civic just to try and beat mustangs/camaro/challengers either.




What weekend? VIR club day? What org? I'd love to be out there watching you pass me! Next big question would be will the wife LET me take her pinto GL convertible to VIR to play?!?!?!

Actually it's NCM on June 25 and 26th, but I may sneak in on NASA early July.

I dont have a 335 to accept the Bet :lol

Maybe that's why I bet. :lol

[tommymac]

hell no to the south course, or me trying on my track bike.

I am one of the few odd ones that likes south better than north, but I also like jefferson at summit point so go figure :lol:

[Homeslice]

I know someone with an M3, and he is all into the whole xenon lights / hi-end audio / rimz / lowering kit .......He mostly "flosses" it (creeps around at starbucks/jamba juice, hangs his arm out the window everywhere he goes)

Asked him if he's ever taken it to a track day, and he goes "dude these tires are expensive"

[tommymac]

I know someone with an M3, and he is all into the whole xenon lights / hi-end audio / rimz / lowering kit .......He mostly "flosses" it (creeps around at starbucks/jamba juice, hangs his arm out the window everywhere he goes)

Asked him if he's ever taken it to a track day, and he goes "dude these tires are expensive"

I hope you kicked him in the nuts for that, or just for general principle. :lol:

[RACER X]

sweet baby jesus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ml0lG4sMTJU

[Cutty72]

sweet baby jesus!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ml0lG4sMTJU

Thanks, now I have to change pants.

[Gas Man]

Agreed. That place has become THE PLACE to take your car in the area.

[Sean]

Problem with Miata guys at track events is they get so ingrained into their head to never, EVER lift that they don't do it even when they really should be on the binders. I got hit by a Miata in a race last month and he basically destroyed the whole right side of my car. He was full throttle and airborne when he hit me, never lifted.