Thinking about moving..

[dubbs]

So I live on Long Island and I make a decent salary, I'm an IT Consultant, basically a windows systems administrator w/ some sales, networking, and management thrown in.

I recently saw a video on how Houston was a really good place to go for IT because of the amount of jobs and the cost of living. Currently I have a 3 bedroom house 1 bath that's only about 1200 square feet w/ 1.5 car garage that cost me 253k. Oil is nuts to heat my house @ 4$ a gallon. So needless to say I'm looking for an area w/o much of a winter, much lower cost of living, and decent place for IT jobs.

I was checking out houses in Houston and saw that you can get some built 3200+ square foot 4 br and 2.5 bath for like 230k. And they're all brick.. Unlike my 70 year old wood house.

I'm 26 and going to finish my bachelors in 2 yrs, which is when I plan to move..

My gf (who will most likely be my wife soon) will be hard to persuade to move, w/ family n all, but I don't really see that as being an issue. That's what skype is for, right!

Just looking for some opinions and options that you know of. Thanks..

[Trip]

You should try Austin if you want to go to Texas. You would have to at least triple or quadruple my salary to get me to Houston.

[dubbs]

You should try Austin if you want to go to Texas. You would have to at least triple or quadruple my salary to get me to Houston.

I don't necessarily want to go to Texas, what's wrong w/ Houston?

[Trip]

I don't necessarily want to go to Texas, what's wrong w/ Houston?

Go visit it.

[dubbs]

Go visit it.

Nice.. so to save the $1,000+ plus all the time wasted, care to elaborate?

[Trip]

Nice.. so to save the $1,000+ plus all the time wasted, care to elaborate?

weather, people, normal big city suckiness.

[RACER X]

anywhere in TX is better then NY

and yeah. you can buy alot of house for reasonable in Houston (tx in general)

i think Austin was #1, houston #2 and dallas somewhere in top 10 for growth cities in the US

we live in the outskirts of houston and i drive 20 to work, about 30min with tolls or 25mi mi and 40mi w/o tolls.

you can live in "the city" or suburbia, houstons a HUGE city

is it perfect naw.

check out www.har.com for pricing houses.

[pauldun170]

My gf (who will most likely be my wife soon) will be hard to persuade to move, w/ family n all, but I don't really see that as being an issue. That's what skype is for, right!


Ruh-roh

I've heard that one before.
All from guys who are now permanent NY'ers

[dubbs]

Ruh-roh

I've heard that one before.
All from guys who are now permanent NY'ers

heh.. that may be the case.. I do have a bunch of family here myself..

I did also buy a vacation house in myrtle beach.. but there are 0 jobs down there..

[dubbs]

anywhere in TX is better then NY

and yeah. you can buy alot of house for reasonable in Houston (tx in general)

i think Austin was #1, houston #2 and dallas somewhere in top 10 for growth cities in the US

we live in the outskirts of houston and i drive 20 to work, about 30min with tolls or 25mi mi and 40mi w/o tolls.

you can live in "the city" or suburbia, houstons a HUGE city

is it perfect naw.

check out www.har.com (http://www.har.com) for pricing houses.

Thanks for the link.. lots of good info on there, can really drill down to what you want. One thing that just scared me are the taxes.. It said for the 230k house the taxes were 6200$. What are the property taxes like by you? I only pay 4k and I thought that was a shit load, but I do have like .6 of an acre.

[RACER X]

there's 8.25% sales tax on "everything"
6.25 on cars/bikes

our property tax is like 3.4%, so yeah, its not "cheap"

of course it varies from city to city, there are alot of little cities inside houston and on the outskirts, so prob. 2% and up to around 4%.

no state tax

[dubbs]

there's 8.25% sales tax on "everything"
6.25 on cars/bikes

our property tax is like 3.4%, so yeah, its not "cheap"

of course it varies from city to city, there are alot of little cities inside houston and on the outskirts, so prob. 2% and up to around 4%.

no state tax

That is a bit steep.. How bout insurance? Right now I pay about 800/yr.

[RACER X]

i think we're at $1700/yr

and depending where you buy you may need "wind storm" ( hurricane) ins. thats another ~$400

[dubbs]

i think we're at $1700/yr

and depending where you buy you may need "wind storm" ( hurricane) ins. thats another ~$400

For some reason I expected the taxes and insurance to be cheaper.. guess not everything is more expensive here.

[RACER X]

overall the cost of living is cheaper down here.

gas about $3.50-3.60/gal
not heating oil
we have a newish house, 3500sq ft and our highest elec. bill has been $230
yard guys, $25/wk

[dubbs]

overall the cost of living is cheaper down here.

gas about $3.50-3.60/gal
not heating oil
we have a newish house, 3500sq ft and our highest elec. bill has been $230
yard guys, $25/wk

My highest electric bill was 120$ but I don't have central air.

My oil bill for the year is about 4 grand.

How much do you pay for home gas for the year, approx?

[RACER X]

$70/mos for nat. gas

EVERY house has central air here, lol

no basements.

[Rangerscott]

Nothing like living in one of the top 10 polluted cities in the US. It may not be on an official list but its on my list. Also waking up at 4am to have enough time to make it to your 8am job. LOL

[wildchild]

don't forget when you move south, you may not pay as much for heat, (although Ed is covering my heat bill with his per month on gas) but you definitely pay more for A/C. you also have to remember you will run the A/C more then those who are from TX. I hardly turned my A/C off in winter this year in FL.
I've heard the same about more jobs in TX but haven't really seen it in reality. (internet searches anyway)

Don't forget if COL is lower so are wages generally.

[Rangerscott]

Not sure about Houston but where I'm at it stays in the 20-30 range with some weeks of 0's. So you don't have your a/c on year round. Just may-august. April some times if it's La Nina time.

[dubbs]

Have some family that lives northwest of Atlanta, it seems they're a ton of jobs there as well. I've heard some bad things about the traffic there, but seems like depending on where you live and work depends on how bad it could be.. Right now my commute is 34 miles.. takes me an hour n 20 mins in the summer.. 50 mins in the winter.

[TYEster]

My advice is to NOT move to Austin.

Notice those who suggested it do not live here.

That is all.

[Trip]

Have some family that lives northwest of Atlanta, it seems they're a ton of jobs there as well. I've heard some bad things about the traffic there, but seems like depending on where you live and work depends on how bad it could be.. Right now my commute is 34 miles.. takes me an hour n 20 mins in the summer.. 50 mins in the winter.

Traffic can be really bad in Atlanta. I don't mind Atlanta all that much though. You would have access to a lot of good riding a few hours away.

[dubbs]

Traffic can be really bad in Atlanta. I don't mind Atlanta all that much though. You would have access to a lot of good riding a few hours away.

That's what I was thinking.. My uncle and grandfather both ride as well, so wouldn't be a bad deal.. Definitely worth looking into since they both have houses with tons of room for me to leech off of them while I look.

[Trip]

That's what I was thinking.. My uncle and grandfather both ride as well, so wouldn't be a bad deal.. Definitely worth looking into since they both have houses with tons of room for me to leech off of them while I look.

Home pricing/insurance/electricity/gas/CoL in this area sounds very similar to what was talked about in Houston, except you wouldn't have as much in insurance because of hurricanes and shit. Mine runs around 600 a year.

[dubbs]

Home pricing/insurance/electricity/gas/CoL in this area sounds very similar to what was talked about in Houston, except you wouldn't have as much in insurance because of hurricanes and shit. Mine runs around 600 a year.

Taxes also seem to be a lot less than Texas.. only about 2200 for a 3500 square foot house on about an acre of land.. Sounds like a damn good deal to me.. I may even be able to telecommute w/ my current job...

[azoomm]

My advice is to NOT move to Austin.

Notice those who suggested it do not live here.

That is all.

:lol

Yup. We're full.

That is, unless you're cool. Then we'll tell you all about it.

I'll tell you what though. I'd rather poke myself in the eye with a hot stick than live in or around Houston.

[RACER X]

my gas bill is also my stove and dryer, doesn't seem to rise alot during the winter

Nothing like living in one of the top 10 polluted cities in the US. It may not be on an official list but its on my list. Also waking up at 4am to have enough time to make it to your 8am job. LOL

lol, i'm getting to work late these last few days as Z is out of town, and i have to drop off son at daycare, at a reasonable hour. 7a

so i live in far outskirts of houston, 20mi , taking the toll road, bumper to bumper, 45min, while i hated it as i'm usually at work by 6 thats normally a 20-25min. commute

but it is a big city, so you have to make decisions.

as for wages, depends on what you do. i'm sure there are sites out ther that will tell you what you need to make

for my ind. we get paid very well vs the rest of the country, and the COL is low, win-win

the only other place we'd consider living is in NC, similar COL and decent jobs.

[LeeNetworX]

Have some family that lives northwest of Atlanta, it seems they're a ton of jobs there as well. I've heard some bad things about the traffic there, but seems like depending on where you live and work depends on how bad it could be.. Right now my commute is 34 miles.. takes me an hour n 20 mins in the summer.. 50 mins in the winter.

Depending where you live/work and your work schedule (what times of day will you be commuting) it could be not bad or a nightmare. Just all depends. I live in Cumming and work in Alpharetta and commuting isn't that bad - overall it's better than it was in South Florida.

Cost of living is much less here than SFL, plenty of great riding, change of seasons yet winter isn't harsh.

[dubbs]

Yea.. it seems w/ IT, the salaries are about the same in most states.

[LeeNetworX]

Yea.. it seems w/ IT, the salaries are about the same in most states.

http://www.bestplaces.net/col/

[RACER X]

also consider the income levels of the people replying, its a nice life in most places if your making, say $200k a yr.

but how is it if you "only" make $100k or less or whatever.

how far will your $ stretch.

[dubbs]

http://www.bestplaces.net/col/

Nice link -

Atlanta is 30% cheaper than Manorville.
Housing is the biggest factor in the cost of living difference.
Housing is 42% cheaper in Atlanta.

[skiergirl]

Most of the reason every from TX hates Houston is that it's a huge city and with that comes the usual traffic issues, rude people, over-crowding, long commutes, etc. So Yes if I were asked to leave Austin and live there I'd rather poke out an eye. However, you're from NY so most of that probably won't bother you much. Houston has a higher cost of living than most places in TX but probably cheaper than NY too.

you won't really have any heating costs but you will run your A/C from Feb - Dec and sometimes in between. We pay no state or local taxes like PA did but instead have higher sales tax rates usually 8.25 - 8.75%. Property taxes really depend on where you live but someone else mentioned 3-4% and that's probably about right.

I prefer the south due to year-round riding! Houston is humid and your first year or two you will hate life in July-Aug. You do get used to it though....

[RACER X]

huh, about traffic

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/03/08/50-worst-commutes-americas-highways-to-hell.html

#6, I-35 Southbound, Austin-Round Rock

Worst corridor: US-183/Exit 239-240 through Woodland Ave.
Length of worst corridor: 6.7 miles
Rush hour travel time tax on worst corridor: 226%
Longest rush hour travel time on worst corridor 36 minutes
Time per mile during longest rush hour travel period 3.32 minutes

Commuter Buzz: "It's time we look to try out-of-the-box, innovative solutions to address our congestion short-term and long-term," said Bob Daigh, former district engineer for Austin's Department of Transportation and member of the committee that authored a state-commission report on Interstate 35, released earlier this year.

[Homeslice]

I don't necessarily want to go to Texas, what's wrong w/ Houston?

it's ghetto, unless you're rich enough to live in the nicer suburbs

tons of bugs & humidity, too

[Switch]

Yeah, but you'd be in TX, alongside a bunch of tea party retards.

[Homeslice]

anywhere in TX is better then NY

.

Unless you like to be around intelligent people, lol

The only highly-educated people in Texas are engineers like yourself, & healthcare workers. Other industries aren't very well-represented there. For example there isn't a big financial, legal, advertising, or journalism industry there, as much as there is in NY. People with diverse opinions & backgrounds, & countries of origin.

Not to mention the arts & entertainment opportunites pale in comparison to NY

Plus, where's the skiing? 1,000 miles away in Taos NM? lol...

[Homeslice]

At your age, and still being single w/o kids, I'm not sure what the draw of Houston would be, other than a lower cost of living.

In the South, if you're not married by your age, you are an outlier. Better be religious too.

For about the same cost of living, you could go to Denver, which is full of people your age group, and has a ton more receational opportunities. And no it isn't as cold as NY.

[pauldun170]

Unless you like to be around intelligent people, lol

The only highly-educated people in Texas are engineers like yourself, & healthcare workers. Other industries aren't very well-represented there. For example there isn't a big financial, legal, advertising, or journalism industry there, as much as there is in NY. People with diverse opinions & backgrounds, & countries of origin.

Not to mention the arts & entertainment opportunites pale in comparison to NY

Plus, where's the skiing? 1,000 miles away in Taos NM? lol...

Dubbs is on Long Island out in Suffolk county.

MUCH MUCH different than NYC.

You can always tell who is originally from Queens (and then moved out to the "Island") and who was born and raised out in the sticks.

Queens folk are always friendly and quick to offer a conversations.
Native Long Islanders are judgmental, wont acknowledge you snooty pooties.
Thats right...I said snooty pooties.

Engineers..tend to be judgmental and outside of the field of interest are hard headed and close minded.
"I know what I know and everything else is nonsense"


The truth about living with "financial, legal, advertising, or journalism"

Financial - Investment folks really live up to the stereotype of asshole. Non investment types are all over the map.

Legal - Arrogance, elitist pricks through most firms but those that specialize in labor have some good folks. Public sector legal is filled with whiney "I'm broke...mah student loans are so big!! Why can't I get a job at that place I want a job at?!!"

Advertising - Holy fuck all hell between these folks and fashion industry scum I want to punch a hipster with a skinny mocha lachatto death grip on a fashion magazine just finished a salad plastic sunglass...fuck I can't even begin on these people. Big on opinions...small on actual clues. On anything.
If enough people like something on social media then it is 100% fact.
Thats how these people roll.

Journalism - Broke...waiting to be fired or has already been fired and now contributes to a "blog". I don't cross paths with any of the new breeds or tech writers who seem to be a dime a dozen (and broke) but the old guard is in the family. Overall...it seems to be a lot of rehashing of the same old shit you find out is trending.

post now ends as I stop procrastinating

[Rangerscott]

Homeslice, your post make me lolz. I love it how you make sound like texas is a giant cult.

[Trip]

Engineers..tend to be judgmental and outside of the field of interest are hard headed and close minded.
"I know what I know and everything else is nonsense"


Fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.

Homeslice, post make lolz. I love it how you make sound like texas is a giant cult.

You guys are, Texans are weird fucks. LOL

[dubbs]

I grew up in Queens until I was 15, then moved out to Westhampton w/ my parents.. Bought my house in Manorville 3 yrs ago. Some people that I went to school with that were native to WH were fucked up judgmental pricks. Never liked any of those people. The people I became friends with didn't have rich parents but were still native to places like East Quogue and Hamptons bays and such. Different type of ppl, for sure.

[Homeslice]

Dubbs is on Long Island out in Suffolk county.

MUCH MUCH different than NYC.

You can always tell who is originally from Queens (and then moved out to the "Island") and who was born and raised out in the sticks.

Queens folk are always friendly and quick to offer a conversations.
Native Long Islanders are judgmental, wont acknowledge you snooty pooties.
Thats right...I said snooty pooties.

Engineers..tend to be judgmental and outside of the field of interest are hard headed and close minded.
"I know what I know and everything else is nonsense"


The truth about living with "financial, legal, advertising, or journalism"

Financial - Investment folks really live up to the stereotype of asshole. Non investment types are all over the map.

Legal - Arrogance, elitist pricks through most firms but those that specialize in labor have some good folks. Public sector legal is filled with whiney "I'm broke...mah student loans are so big!! Why can't I get a job at that place I want a job at?!!"

Advertising - Holy fuck all hell between these folks and fashion industry scum I want to punch a hipster with a skinny mocha lachatto death grip on a fashion magazine just finished a salad plastic sunglass...fuck I can't even begin on these people. Big on opinions...small on actual clues. On anything.
If enough people like something on social media then it is 100% fact.
Thats how these people roll.

Journalism - Broke...waiting to be fired or has already been fired and now contributes to a "blog". I don't cross paths with any of the new breeds or tech writers who seem to be a dime a dozen (and broke) but the old guard is in the family. Overall...it seems to be a lot of rehashing of the same old shit you find out is trending.

post now ends as I stop procrastinating


You know how I know you're from NY?
You differentiate Queens from "the island" even though Queens is ON the motherfucking island.

:lol

[pauldun170]

Fuck you, you don't know what you are talking about.


...

[pauldun170]

You know how I know you're from NY?
You differentiate Queens from "the island" even though Queens is ON the motherfucking island.

:lol

Don't ever say that to someone from NYC

It always ends with "Fuck you and your 'books'...asshole."

[RACER X]

Un. People with diverse opinions & backgrounds, & countries of origin.

...

WRONG

The Houston region is now the most ethnically diverse large metropolitan area in the country, surpassing New York City.

"These findings are from a report released Monday by Rice University researchers, based on an analysis of census data from 1990, 2000 and 2010."

slice's view of TX

http://twothreenine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pic_cowboy1.jpg

[Trip]

...

I was just trying to live up to your stereotype, lol.

[Homeslice]

WRONG

The Houston region is now the most ethnically diverse large metropolitan area in the country, surpassing New York City.

"These findings are from a report released Monday by Rice University researchers, based on an analysis of census data from 1990, 2000 and 2010."


How do they define diverse?

Are they simply saying Houston has a high % of "minorities"? What do they consider a minority?

OK, you have a shit-ton of Mexicans, and maybe some Chinese & Vietnamese......big deal. I can guarantee you that NY has more Italians, Irish, Israelis, French, Greeks, Russians, Polish, Jamaiicans, Puerto Ricans, Africans, Persians, Ukranians, Romanians.......you name it. A lot of those people wouldn't even be counted as a minority, but they certainly contribute to diversity.

[pauldun170]

WRONG

The Houston region is now the most ethnically diverse large metropolitan area in the country, surpassing New York City.

"These findings are from a report released Monday by Rice University researchers, based on an analysis of census data from 1990, 2000 and 2010."

slice's view of TX

http://twothreenine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pic_cowboy1.jpg

Ethnically diverse doesn't mean a diversity of opinions or viewpoints.
It just means you get a bonus prize in conversations.

Jews - "My grandma survived the holocaust and I can't meet anyone on j-date"
Blacks - "It's because I'm black (as to why they didn't get invited to a KKK meeting)"
Blacks who originate from the Caribbean - "My <insert relative here> just got there masters from <insert school here>. Those damn <insert Puerto Ricans or Domincans> probably going to break into the house and steal the diploma."

Chinese - If native chinese..they will try to pretend you are not there and if you don't leave the put on a face mask and run away)

American born Chinese background - "Something something Asian something something something..chinese invented everything"

Hong Kong background - "Everything good was invented in Hong Kong...we snuck it out of there to keep the Chinese from taking it."
Mexican - "I'm Texan" or "LA has some really nice areas to live"

Indian - "The reason why you are having chest pains..." or "I have written this code elegantly"

White dudes - "Damn <insert above minorities> only got that job because of affirmative action" (after scoring a crappy personality score in the interview process)

White girls - "Those damn white guys get paid more than I do" (said while on 30 minute personal phone call at work)



WTF....why did I just waste time righting that.
I think I just blew my chances at a political career.

[pauldun170]

How do they define diverse?

Are they simply saying Houston has a high % of "minorities"? What do they consider a minority?

OK, you have a shit-ton of Mexicans, and maybe some Chinese & Vietnamese......big deal. I can guarantee you that NY has more Italians, Irish, Israelis, French, Greeks, Russians, Polish, Jamaiicans, Puerto Ricans, Africans, Persians, Ukranians, Romanians.......you name it. A lot of those people wouldn't even be counted as a minority, but they certainly contribute to diversity.

Italians? Old Italians...maybe. Everyone else is a poser
Irish? They are the backbone of our illegal immigrant population
Israeli's? Normal ones or the creepy guys running scams.
French? There are French people around here? there are a lot of out of work actors working restaurants with fake french accents but not that many.
Greeks...Diners. They have that locked down
Jamaicans? Yup...I try and stay out of those neighborhoods.
Puerto Ricans? Yup...stupid flags and crap hanging from the rear view mirror
Africans? Free newspapers, sidewalk venders and cab drivers. That and Doctors. There is no middle ground. You are either a Brain surgeon or you sell train pass holders.
Persians - I know a couple of cool Iranians. good people. NOt a lot though
Eastern European - All over the place.

[Homeslice]

:lol:

[Homeslice]

Indian - "The reason why you are having chest pains..." or "I have written this code elegantly"

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[RACER X]

How do they define diverse?

Are they simply saying Houston has a high % of "minorities"? What do they consider a minority?

OK, you have a shit-ton of Mexicans, and maybe some Chinese & Vietnamese......big deal. I can guarantee you that NY has more Italians, Irish, Israelis, French, Greeks, Russians, Polish, Jamaiicans, Puerto Ricans, Africans, Persians, Ukranians, Romanians.......you name it. A lot of those people wouldn't even be counted as a minority, but they certainly contribute to diversity.

lol

of course you're smarter then all the researchers at Rice

http://news.rice.edu/2012/03/05/new-rice-report-finds-houston-metropolitan-area-is-more-diverse-less-segregated-2/

i call your diversity, mostly white people.....lol

diverse is african vs whitey.......

IMO not irish whitey vs german whitey

[Homeslice]

lol

of course you're smarter then all the researchers at Rice

http://news.rice.edu/2012/03/05/new-rice-report-finds-houston-metropolitan-area-is-more-diverse-less-segregated-2/

i call your diversity, mostly white people.....lol

diverse is african vs whitey.......

IMO not irish whitey vs german whitey

So in other words, you think all "white" people are the same......Including Persians, Arabs, Greeks, Russians, Swedes, etc.

LOL....

[RACER X]

i think RICE's report is more accurate then your speculation.

[Homeslice]

i think RICE's report is more accurate then your speculation.

Your link provides no data whatsoever......just words

[RACER X]

wanna go find the report, shouldn't be difficult w/ that google tool.

[Homeslice]

Dude, you're from Texas.....you should know that San Antonio has a lower % white than Houston does. Hell I bet Miami does too.

[Homeslice]

Plus all you have to do is check wikipedia:

According to the 2010 Census, Whites made up 51% of Houston's population; 26% of the total population were non-Hispanic whites. Blacks or African Americans made up 24% of Houston's population. American Indians made up 0.7% of Houston's population. Asians made up 6% of Houston's population (1.7% Vietnamese, 1.3% Chinese, 1.3% Indian, 0.9% Pakistani, 0.4% Filipino, 0.3% Korean, 0.1% Japanese), while Pacific Islanders made up 0.1%. Individuals from some other race made up 15.2% of the city's population, of which 0.2% were non-Hispanic. Individuals from two or more races made up 3.3% of the city's population. People of Hispanic or Latino origin made up 44% of Houston's population; 32% of Houston's population is of Mexican heritage; the next five Hispanic groups are those of Salvadoran, Honduran, Guatemalan, Colombian and Puerto Rican heritage, respectively.[100][101]


LMAO @ 6% Asian.....that is weaksauce.....that's not much above the national average of 4-5%.

[udman]

LMAO @ 6% Asian.....that is weaksauce.....that's not much above the national average of 4-5%.

Slice, why do you want everyone to walk around in a Benneton ad all day? Shit. I have more respect for other cultures until I actually meet them and then find out they're just as fucked up as the rest of us.

[azoomm]

:lol: did you just quote Wikipedia as a factual reference?

[Homeslice]

:lol: did you just quote Wikipedia as a factual reference?
First, a large number of people contribute and review each other's contributions. An article about Houston is gonna have a lot of people checking and double-checking everything..........More so than an article about, say, dry clutches.

Secondly, it isn't difficult for someone to accurately copy/paste data from the Census Dept. website. I would go there myself, but I've been there before, and it takes forever to navigate.

[Homeslice]

Slice, why do you want everyone to walk around in a Benneton ad all day? Shit. I have more respect for other cultures until I actually meet them and then find out they're just as fucked up as the rest of us.

Being in a place that's 99% lilly-white WASP's whose families have been here since the Mayflower is boring.....you learn nothing



(I say that as a lily-white myself....lol)

[Rangerscott]

Everyone shut the fuck up. Homeslice is irish/german or some shit. He knows what he be talkin aboot.

[RACER X]

And he's got a wasp and Danish neighbor, he knows diversity!!

[Homeslice]

Because finding census data is really hard

[udman]

If diversity means this board should have one Asian dude that likes calling the fire department to look at all the pretty lights, one black dude that seems to hate black people, one white/black/Mexican looking guy that thinks Ford Probes are cool, a skinny yet fashionable white guy who apologizes for all white people while simultaneously insulting everyone with generalities, a wannabe Jesus who hates Jesus and loves cake but not the "side effects", a Jew who sucks with money, some Ron Paul supporters (yeah...really), a chick who has more grease under her nails than most mechanics and will bitch slap your ass at track days, an admin (presumably gay although won't admit it) with a Christmas light fetish, and a Mexican "trained assassin" lurker whose banned but you know reads this shit everyday, then hey; I'm all for diversity.

Shit.. We got Diversity all up in here. Yo!! Gubment gonna hand us some dollaz yall!!!!

[azoomm]

If diversity means this board should have one Asian dude that likes calling the fire department to look at all the pretty lights, one black dude that seems to hate black people, one white/black/Mexican looking guy that thinks Ford Probes are cool, a skinny yet fashionable white guy who apologizes for all white people while simultaneously insulting everyone with generalities, a wannabe Jesus who hates Jesus and loves cake but not the "side effects", a Jew who sucks with money, some Ron Paul supporters (yeah...really), a chick who has more grease under her nails than most mechanics and will bitch slap your ass at track days, an admin (presumably gay although won't admit it) with a Christmas light fetish, and a Mexican "trained assassin" lurker whose banned but you know reads this shit everyday, then hey; I'm all for diversity.

Shit.. We got Diversity all up in here. Yo!! Gubment gonna hand us some dollaz yall!!!!

:lol

[pauldun170]

If diversity means this board should have one Asian dude that likes calling the fire department to look at all the pretty lights, one black dude that seems to hate black people, one white/black/Mexican looking guy that thinks Ford Probes are cool, a skinny yet fashionable white guy who apologizes for all white people while simultaneously insulting everyone with generalities, a wannabe Jesus who hates Jesus and loves cake but not the "side effects", a Jew who sucks with money, some Ron Paul supporters (yeah...really), a chick who has more grease under her nails than most mechanics and will bitch slap your ass at track days, an admin (presumably gay although won't admit it) with a Christmas light fetish, and a Mexican "trained assassin" lurker whose banned but you know reads this shit everyday, then hey; I'm all for diversity.

Shit.. We got Diversity all up in here. Yo!! Gubment gonna hand us some dollaz yall!!!!
:lol

[shmike]

If diversity means this board should have one Asian dude that likes calling the fire department to look at all the pretty lights, one black dude that seems to hate black people, one white/black/Mexican looking guy that thinks Ford Probes are cool, a skinny yet fashionable white guy who apologizes for all white people while simultaneously insulting everyone with generalities, a wannabe Jesus who hates Jesus and loves cake but not the "side effects", a Jew who sucks with money, some Ron Paul supporters (yeah...really), a chick who has more grease under her nails than most mechanics and will bitch slap your ass at track days, an admin (presumably gay although won't admit it) with a Christmas light fetish, and a Mexican "trained assassin" lurker whose banned but you know reads this shit everyday, then hey; I'm all for diversity.

Shit.. We got Diversity all up in here. Yo!! Gubment gonna hand us some dollaz yall!!!!

:shmike:

[Homeslice]

So suddenly, I'm the only one who thinks diversity is good. OK.

[OneSickPsycho]

So suddenly, I'm the only one who thinks diversity is good. OK.

:welcome:
:twfix:

[LeeNetworX]

So suddenly, I'm the only one who thinks diversity is good. OK.

No, you're just seemingly the only one that thinks is the most important factor in determining an area where one should live. :idk:

Different people live in different areas and different types of environments because they are all different and have differents wants and needs and interests. Holy shit, is that a form of diversity?

[Homeslice]

Never said it was the most important thing. Frankly I just pulled it out of a hat, to dispute the claim that anywhere in TX is better than NY.

[Rangerscott]

As long as Im not living near blacks or sand peoole than Im good. Im not racist. I hate all diversities.

[LeeNetworX]

As long as Im not living near blacks or sand peoole than Im good. Im not racist. I hate all diversities.

If you are going to tell a joke son, tell it right.

"I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone."

[OneSickPsycho]

If you are going to tell a joke son, tell it right.

"I'm not prejudiced; I hate everyone."

I thought it was, "I'm not racist; I hate all [insert racial slur] equally."

[RACER X]

back on topic

speaking of that big city traffic

http://www.inrix.com/pressrelease.asp?ID=156

Last year, only 890,000 of the 2.6 million new jobs were in our nation’s largest urban centers. These regions are down 6 million of the 9 million jobs lost during the Great Recession. Lack of employment combined with high fuel prices is clearly driving the decline in traffic.

By analyzing traffic in the nation’s 100 largest metropolitan areas in 2011, the Top 10 Worst U.S. Traffic Cities1 are:
1. Honolulu: Drivers waste 58 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Tuesday from 5:15 – 5:30pm

2. Los Angeles: Drivers waste 56 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:45 – 6:00pm

3. San Francisco: Drivers waste 48 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:45 – 6:00pm

4. New York: Drivers waste 57 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Friday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

5. Bridgeport, CT: Drivers waste 42 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Friday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

6. Washington, D.C.: Drivers waste 45 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:45 – 6:00pm

7. Seattle: Drivers waste 33 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

8. Austin: Drivers waste 30 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

9. Boston: Drivers waste 35 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

10. Chicago: Drivers waste 36 hours in traffic2; Worst Hour = Thursday from 5:30 – 5:45pm

[azoomm]

But, Austin isn't a big city. Really. The only reason people even know about Austin is University of Texas is downtown.

Pfffffffffffft.

[RACER X]

so in other words it's a little city w/ horrible traffic.......lol

[TYEster]

Ya so stay the hell out.

[dReWpY]

what about nashville?

[Homeslice]

if you're going to do tennessee, I would rather do chattanooga.....More recreation opportunities, less country music tourist traps, and close to Atlanta.

[RACER X]

one of austins finest

http://www.randymcelroy.com/images/temp/bad-cop.jpg

lol

[goof2]

Never said it was the most important thing. Frankly I just pulled it out of a hat, to dispute the claim that anywhere in TX is better than NY.

I hate Houston, hate the shit out of it. I lived there for two years and really hate it. I'd still rather live there than NYC.:lol:

[goof2]

As you can probably tell I wouldn't recommend Houston dubbs. Don't sweat the property tax thing too much. Look at what you would be paying combined for property tax and state income tax in NY and compare that to just the property tax in Texas (no state income tax there) and you will be close to break even if not coming out ahead.

You find the same high property taxes in Florida, another state without an income tax. If you love the water I'd recommend looking there. If you don't you may hate it.

The discussion is probably just academic anyway since:

Ruh-roh

I've heard that one before.
All from guys who are now permanent NY'ers

Yep, you are likely dreaming.:lol:

[dubbs]

Yep, you are likely dreaming.:lol:

I believe I have a unique relationship w/ my gf. The house is in my name, we don't share bank accounts, don't plan on it. I don't ask her to do things, like I see a bunch of ppl do when they want to buy a car or bike. So if I want to go, we go.

[Trip]

I believe I have a unique relationship w/ my gf. The house is in my name, we don't share bank accounts, don't plan on it. I don't ask her to do things, like I see a bunch of ppl do when they want to buy a car or bike. So if I want to go, we go.

She is waiting til she has you legally before striking. Don't get married.

[dubbs]

She is waiting til she has you legally before striking. Don't get married.

Yeah.. I've heard that before. I just can't see it happening to me. Anything's possible I guess.

[Trip]

Yeah.. I've heard that before. I just can't see it happening to me. Anything's possible I guess.

Does she have a vagina? If you answer yes, it can happen to you.

I just moved my wife 80 miles away from her hometown. By the pain of it, you would of thought we were moving to fucking Mars...

I too have seperate checking/savings and pretty much make my own decisions for most things. Never underestimate a woman.

[dubbs]

Does she have a vagina? If you answer yes, it can happen to you.

I just moved my wife 80 miles away from her hometown. By the pain of it, you would of thought we were moving to fucking Mars...

I too have seperate checking/savings and pretty much make my own decisions for most things. Never underestimate a woman.

Bit of a fucked up question, but yes, she does.

So there you go, you got it done, with a bit of bitching and complaining, but w/e..

[Trip]

Bit of a fucked up question, but yes, she does.

So there you go, you got it done, with a bit of bitching and complaining, but w/e..

Obviously, there was a lot that I left out. I didn't just make the decision and move her. I had to explain to her that it was in our best interest, well only option, to get where I am at today. You should do the same if you want to move her. If you just move her, things probably aren't going to end well.

[dubbs]

Obviously, there was a lot that I left out. I didn't just make the decision and move her. I had to explain to her that it was in our best interest, well only option, to get where I am at today. You should do the same if you want to move her. If you just move her, things probably aren't going to end well.

I fully agree and thought that went w/o saying but she's basically on board.. She has a few nieces and nephews who are pretty young who she would really miss.. Still weighing pros n cons.