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Turbo Ghost
10-10-2013, 09:43 PM
Well, I finally started doing SOMETHING to try to get back the stamina I used to have.
Monday I started running. The street I live on has a cul-de-sac at the end and it's a 3/4 mile loop from my mailbox to there and back. Now, I know it doesn't sound like much but, it's a mild incline for the first part and then it goes down a very steep hill as in greater than 20 degrees of incline and back up an equal hill to the cul-de-sac!
On Monday I ran at a 16:20 mile pace with a peak of 6mph. My lungs were on a dry fire and all I could taste was blood and I probably looked like a bull mastiff with all the phlegm I was producing! It's the first time I've ran in probably 20 years!
Tuesday I ran at a 12:46 pace with a peak of 7mph. My lungs didn't hurt nearly as much and I was actually able to run all the way to the cul-de-sac without stopping before I started walking for a bit.
Wednesday I ran at a 10:12 pace with a peak of nearly 8mph. It still sucked but, slightly less than the previous days.
Today I went all to hell! I ran at a 10:14 pace with a peak of 7mph and it nearly killed me!
My biggest problem is the air is moving in and out but, it's like no oxygen is being exchanged! I fully breathe with my ribcage and diaphragm but, it's like the air is dead.
I downloaded Cardio Trainer by Noom and it's really cool but, I can't choose what songs to play while I'm running. It plays everything on my phone! I'm really tired of hearing my ringtones while I'm running! Also, for some reason it doesn't show elevation although that may be a feature for the pro (paid) version.
My plan is to keep running and hope I improve and my lungs start working. We'll see how it goes.

Archren
10-10-2013, 09:49 PM
How often are you breathing? That is, are you just gasping for air the entire time or are you controlling your breathing? Find out what pace works for you, but I generally will start out at about 1 breath every 4 steps, and increase my breathing as I get more winded. YMMV, but it helps me. Or you can sing cadence. :D

Also, adding in the occasional sprint drills will actually help improve your overall endurance.

XS2
10-11-2013, 01:36 AM
Starting a new routine for the winter months to build mass (I'm a skinny guy and I'm fit but real long and lanky looking). My strength is up but my bmi is down, so I'm changing some things, less cardio, more muscle building techniques, forced reps, drop sets, negatives, and hopefully it will help. I'm not trying to end up like Vin Diesel or anything, just want to look a little more healthy for my size lol.

OneSickPsycho
10-11-2013, 07:45 AM
Well if Kaneman ever comes back, he can hook it up. He's the guy I told you about who's bulked up with that crazy diet...

Triple
10-11-2013, 03:16 PM
Probably talked about this before, but who here does yoga?

I do the yoga workout as part of my P90X routine, which I'm told by more experienced yogi is actually pretty amateur. Still kicks my ass, though. For me, it's one of the hardest DVD's of the set. It lasts about 100 minutes total and there is one stretch of almost 40 minutes of nearly constant muscle-tension, no rest.

BUT, like you said, I feel great afterwards, and it seems to help me recover from the previous days' strength training as well. I dread starting the workout, but I'm always glad I did it when I'm done.

XS2
10-11-2013, 04:04 PM
Well if Kaneman ever comes back, he can hook it up. He's the guy I told you about who's bulked up with that crazy diet...That'd be cool, definitely interested. I'm tring to double portions, especially post workout and at night.

OneSickPsycho
10-11-2013, 04:13 PM
That'd be cool, definitely interested. I'm tring to double portions, especially post workout and at night.

The little bit that I told you about it is in this thread somewhere... and I probably got half of it wrong.

Tsunami
10-13-2013, 09:32 PM
I do power yoga. I love it but I won't do hot yoga. I get hot enough as it. It has to be like 75 degrees max with the fan blowing or I would overheat in any type of workout LOL. For that reason I don't run in the summer.

Tsunami
10-13-2013, 09:34 PM
Turbo Ghost- my endurance sucks ass. I like to run though and I can am pretty quick if I go balls out for a sprint, but for any type of mileage its really hard for me. I get winded really quickly. What has helped me is just breathing in and out of my nose to set the pace. If I can't breathe comfortably then I slow down.

Turbo Ghost
10-13-2013, 10:26 PM
How often are you breathing? That is, are you just gasping for air the entire time or are you controlling your breathing? Find out what pace works for you, but I generally will start out at about 1 breath every 4 steps, and increase my breathing as I get more winded. YMMV, but it helps me. Or you can sing cadence. :D

Also, adding in the occasional sprint drills will actually help improve your overall endurance.

I'm using the same rhythm I used to use back when I training in Sanuces Ryu. It's the same rhythm as We Will Rock You with the beats trading between my breaths and my feet. Hard to describe I guess but, it always worked great and allowed me to run well without any loss of energy. The problem like I mentioned before is it's just like there's nothing in the air! I haven't done any sprint drills yet. I plan on getting "Zombies Run" later to integrate that into my runs. The reason I'm running where I am is the varied terrain. Start with a slight incline then a steep downhill and back up another then return on the same path. Then die on the couch!
I really got irritated after Thursday's run! I got home and chugged some Kool-Aid until I got near the bottom of my glass and I realized there were chunks of mold in it! Yeah, I think it had been in there a bit too long!

Turbo Ghost
10-13-2013, 10:27 PM
Turbo Ghost- my endurance sucks ass. I like to run though and I can am pretty quick if I go balls out for a sprint, but for any type of mileage its really hard for me. I get winded really quickly. What has helped me is just breathing in and out of my nose to set the pace. If I can't breathe comfortably then I slow down.

My nose stays slightly closed all the time so, for anything that ups my respiritory rate, I have to breathe through my mouth. I run until I can't and then I walk until I recover enough to begin running again and repeat.

pauldun170
10-14-2013, 02:36 PM
Turbo Ghost- my endurance sucks ass. I like to run though and I can am pretty quick if I go balls out for a sprint, but for any type of mileage its really hard for me. I get winded really quickly. What has helped me is just breathing in and out of my nose to set the pace. If I can't breathe comfortably then I slow down.

I think thats fairly common for those just starting out.

I found that finding a good breathing pattern and sticking to it throughout the run to be a huge help. Same pattern from the very start to portions of a run that require a lot of sucking wind. Personally I like 2 quick inhales and one big exhale in time with landing on a right or left foot.
Then it was figuring out that initial pacing can make or break a run.
When in doubt...slow in, fast out. Take it easy for the first mile and each additional mile will end up easier and faster.

That and a running partner rocks. If I run by myself, 20 minutes is about when I get the itch to go home and 60 minutes is about the point where the list of excuses to stop running grows long enough to just call it a day.
If I'm running with someone else...the desire to NOT be the one to call it quits trumps all exhaustion...cramps...urge to poo..
I want to be the one who calls the other person a wuss.

Thats probably why no one wants to run with me.