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Rangerscott
11-30-2012, 06:13 PM
I got a long story but Ill keep it simple for now. Got sick about 3 weeks ago with abdominal/intestinal pains with fluffy stool. Was given nausa pils for a week. Week 2 and still problems but not as painful. Was given cypro anitbiotic and a di something to slow my guts down. Got about 3 days with that and had a bad night. Couldnt fall alseep and vomiting so I stopped taking that.

Went back because my left arm was hurting and I was getting tensed up in places. and doc said it qas ok to stop taking and my stool had hardened up some. Few days passed and still no normal stool. Went back and said I wanted blood work done. Three different test and all came back good. (No hipatitis, kidneys good, etc).

Im currently on hyo somethins which is another drug to slow down the guts and for "spams" which I dont have. Im not in pain just feel some pressure/discomfort at times in my lower back which could be from losing weight and not moving around much for a week.. Sometimes feel something above my stomach but nothing painful. I do get gurgling/hissing noises but theyre at any time. Noticed a couple morning when I would wake up an hour before the alarm and my stomach was talking.

njchopper87
11-30-2012, 08:04 PM
My sister does. She says her side hurts all the time. She went to many doctors; the latest diagnosed IBS. Is it really that? Who knows.. sorry not much help. :/

Kaneman
11-30-2012, 08:44 PM
What's your diet like?

derf
11-30-2012, 10:50 PM
Had stomach problems, changed my diet, got rid of a lot of friends and started to eat more greens and it went away, but now I have the nasty side affect of only shitting once a week. Still not great and one I feel like I need to go, I really need to go

shmike
11-30-2012, 11:13 PM
What's your diet like?

This is your answer.

Get off of processed foods entirely report back.

pauldun170
11-30-2012, 11:29 PM
What's your diet like?

This is your answer.

Get off of processed foods entirely report back.

Indeed.

Rangerscott
12-01-2012, 12:17 AM
Ate nothing but plain jane chicken noodle soup and progresso chicken souo for 2 weeks. This week Ive just had simple sandwhiches and subway. Did have a plain whataburger and nothing bad happened.

I have been stressed/anxiety lately because Ive felt this way for so long and I just closed on a house. Im going to do my best this weekend to lay back and chill out.

Im wondering if I should get my gallbladder checked out.

I was really thinking I had HAV from all the symptoms. Your body just get over HAV and youre pretty much set the rest of your life with natural antibodies.

Tsunami
12-01-2012, 05:54 AM
Did they test you for H. Pylori? It really could be stress related. Why worry about closing on a house, you should be excited and celebrating!

Tsunami
12-01-2012, 05:56 AM
Fluffy stool sounds like a lot of gas as well as your hissing stomach. Usually antibiotics would make you shit more...what about some probiotics? Get some PB8 from whole foods

Rangerscott
12-01-2012, 11:55 AM
Did they test you for H. Pylori? It really could be stress related. Why worry about closing on a house, you should be excited and celebrating!

Ill have to call and check on the pylori. Been taking a 20 billion 2 strand probiotic. Guess its helping.

This morning it was actually brown so thats good at least. Been green for a few days but the hyoscyamine has a side affect of that. Of course green can be from a lot of vegies, purple drinks, and stool going to fast through the intestines to be able to change.to brown.

A lot more calm yeasterday and so far today. Going to go get some cleaning supplies and head over to my house and start cleaning a bit. Got some things to do over there before I can fully start moving in.

VatorMan
12-01-2012, 08:34 PM
What a shitty thread. But I top all of this with my colonoscopy prep tomorrow. I'll let you know color, amount and firmness all day.

Homeslice
12-01-2012, 10:12 PM
At least your stomach is actually working. I get tons of gas, which implies to me that everything's being digested in my intestines instead of before.

Rangerscott
12-02-2012, 01:06 AM
At least your stomach is actually working. I get tons of gas, which implies to me that everything's being digested in my intestines instead of before.

Ill see if my stomach/guts do some talking this morning like they have for the past few days. Ive always felt kinda shity if I let my stomach get on empty.

Gonna go in tomorrow and get some different test done and see if its all right to get off this hyoscyamine. Makes me feel woozy/light headed pretty much all day.

Im wondering if that cypro antibiotic really did a number on my digestive system. Past week all Ive been eating is subway and bread/turkey sandwhiches. I cant live like this.

Tsunami
12-02-2012, 05:29 AM
If you are shitting your brains out, I would lay off the high fiber foods for a while like the veggies and fruit.

Kaneman
12-02-2012, 07:39 AM
This is most likely diet related. It is likely that you eat a lot of processed foods, wheat-products, etc. etc. Lay off that shit, Jesus Christ man. You could have a specific issue with gluten, or your body is just reacting to psedo-foods.

azoomm
12-02-2012, 11:08 AM
This is most likely diet related. It is likely that you eat a lot of processed foods, wheat-products, etc. etc. Lay off that shit, Jesus Christ man. You could have a specific issue with gluten, or your body is just reacting to psedo-foods.
This is what I was thinking. I think you're making it more complicated than it is.

Kaneman
12-02-2012, 06:44 PM
I know this thread is crazy, "Hey guys, lately I've been eating a ton of processed foods and I feel like shit...can't seem to figure out why...."

Rangerscott
12-02-2012, 07:18 PM
I know this thread is crazy, "Hey guys, lately I've been eating a ton of processed foods and I feel like shit...can't seem to figure out why...."

Havent eaten any processed food for 3 weeks.

azoomm
12-02-2012, 08:53 PM
Ate nothing but plain jane chicken noodle soup and progresso chicken souo for 2 weeks. This week Ive just had simple sandwhiches and subway. Did have a plain whataburger and nothing bad happened.

I don't think you know what processed foods are. If it came in a can or was formed by a machine = processed.

RedRider2k2
12-02-2012, 08:59 PM
I've heard good things about this "Raw Diet". Give that a try.

Rangerscott
12-02-2012, 09:02 PM
I don't think you know what processed foods are. If it came in a can or was formed by a machine = processed.

Git to thinking about that after posting. Im doing my best guys. This is the longest Ive ever felt bad. Bought some gluten free bread, apple snacks, and cookies. Wanna know what isnt cheap? LOL.

Today has been so far good. Had my bowel movemwnt this morning and havent gone since, so hopefully tomorrow morning will be good. I did skip my mid day pill and just did a night one and this morning. Also skipped the mid day and 3 hours ago was feeling pretty normal in the head. Took a pill about an hour or so ago and feeling the weirdness again so Im pretty sure its tye hyo missing with my head. I remember her saying my red blood count is good. Im goona go in tuesday after work to see the same doc and see if I can see the trst results first hand. Pretty sure they would have told me if I was anemic.

May do the H pylori test just to rule that out and see if they do ulcer screening. I know this seems a waste of time to some but Id rather rule things out than keep guessing.

Rangerscott
12-02-2012, 09:12 PM
Wanna know what taste extra bland and goes down like sand? Yea gluten free bread. My gums are already sore.

Homeslice
12-03-2012, 06:11 AM
If you ate the same stuff you always eat, it's not your diet.

shmike
12-03-2012, 10:03 AM
Havent eaten any processed food for 3 weeks.

Dude, you've eaten nothing BUT processed foods for the last 3 weeks.


Ate nothing but plain jane chicken noodle soup and progresso chicken souo for 2 weeks. This week Ive just had simple sandwhiches and subway. Did have a plain whataburger and nothing bad happened.

Kaneman
12-03-2012, 10:51 PM
Havent eaten any processed food for 3 weeks.

Yea it really sounds like all you've been eating is processed. You, and about 50% of the population develops some level of gluten allergy over time. Aside from that there is a lot of other shit in processed foods (like bread) that can mess you up.

Read up on Paleo and switch your diet up. If you're having persistent problems with your digestive system the first place to look is what you're putting into it every day, and from what you've posted your diet is awful. Not hating on you bro, just being honest.

There are many things you can try. Paleo, modified paleo, raw diets, vegan (gross). intermittent fasting, etc. etc. etc.

Gluten free bread is shit and it is processed food. Gross. Just don't eat bread or wheat products for a while, its not that hard...and after you get used to it you realize bread tastes like a sponge.

If you ate the same stuff you always eat, it's not your diet.

Completely not true. Allergies are developed over time in most cases and can manifest as described.

Trip
12-03-2012, 10:58 PM
Could be just genetic as well.

Stress can definitely be a huge factor too.

Definitely monitor your diet and find out what hurts you and what doesn't bother you. Tomatoes are a big thing that fucks with my IBS.

Tsunami
12-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Have you talked to Tommymac for an opinion?

Tsunami
12-03-2012, 11:47 PM
Maybe you have c diff? That is the only time I have seen green shit. It can be caused by antibiotics.

Not an expert on adult shit though, I am sure Tommy would know more. I can tell you all about baby shit though.

Rangerscott
12-04-2012, 12:02 AM
Thats the thing. Im not in pain any more. That was only the first 2 weeks. My stool and movements just arent normal for about 4 weeks now. Never vomited, no diahrrea, or constipation. Comes out solid, but tan in color and fluffs out. The doc thinks my guts ate going too fast, but I pretty much complete my movement when waking up. Im not rushing to the toilet or anything. When I ffel like I need to go, I go.

I do my best to take my lunch but dont always and we travel a lot. I try to just have subway or someplace thats decently healthy but cant always do that.

Tomorrow after work Im going to see the doc. Talked to he nurse today and shes gonna refer me to a Gastroenterologist.

Rangerscott
12-04-2012, 12:09 AM
I did have ribbon strip stool for a few days last week and I read that means spasms. Havent had them since.

Hey kaneman. What should I take for lunch?. Im not a food pesron so all I know is sandwhichs

Homeslice
12-04-2012, 04:54 AM
Completely not true. Allergies are developed over time in most cases and can manifest as described.

To go from fine to being in pain and completely different stool all of a sudden?

Gluten allergies were never spoken about when I was a kid.......Now it's claimed be so widespread. That alone makes me suspicious.

Grains are good because they give you fiber. Fruit & vegetables do too, but at a higher price.

If someone is truly allergic to gluten, they could always eat oat.

Course you could always get allergy tested.....It isn't difficult or expensive. Ask your doctor to request it so insurance will cover it.

tommymac
12-04-2012, 07:49 AM
Have you talked to Tommymac for an opinion?

3 pages before my name came up LOL Sound slike he needs at least an abdominal CT, that way yo ucan see if its something like chrons or ulcerative collitis. I dont think it would be C. Diff he wasnt on the abx that long and is an otherwise healthy person. Cipro an dflagyl are the prefered abx for dealing with issues in the gut (at least thats what we use)

my suggestions would be a CT scan and a GI referral, not sure if they would need to scope you from above or below.

Kaneman
12-04-2012, 09:20 AM
To go from fine to being in pain and completely different stool all of a sudden?

Gluten allergies were never spoken about when I was a kid.......Now it's claimed be so widespread. That alone makes me suspicious.

Grains are good because they give you fiber. Fruit & vegetables do too, but at a higher price.

If someone is truly allergic to gluten, they could always eat oat.

Course you could always get allergy tested.....It isn't difficult or expensive. Ask your doctor to request it so insurance will cover it.

Genetically modified wheat and more processed/gluten-laden foods (by the pounds per American per year) would account for that. That and when you were a kid we didn't know what gluten allergies were.

Grains are not good, fiber is bullshit and a myth. The only fiber you ever need can and should be obtained through vegetables. Fiber is just another bullshit word put out by the processed food industry. Kinda like "heart-healthy"

OneSickPsycho
12-04-2012, 01:27 PM
Genetically modified wheat and more processed/gluten-laden foods (by the pounds per American per year) would account for that. That and when you were a kid we didn't know what gluten allergies were.

Grains are not good, fiber is bullshit and a myth. The only fiber you ever need can and should be obtained through vegetables. Fiber is just another bullshit word put out by the processed food industry. Kinda like "heart-healthy"

Was just thinking about your diet this morning... How is your diet going?

OneSickPsycho
12-04-2012, 01:35 PM
Genetically modified wheat and more processed/gluten-laden foods (by the pounds per American per year) would account for that. That and when you were a kid we didn't know what gluten allergies were.

Grains are not good, fiber is bullshit and a myth. The only fiber you ever need can and should be obtained through vegetables. Fiber is just another bullshit word put out by the processed food industry. Kinda like "heart-healthy"

Was just thinking about your diet this morning... How is your diet going?

Trip
12-04-2012, 02:16 PM
3 pages before my name came up LOL Sound slike he needs at least an abdominal CT, that way yo ucan see if its something like chrons or ulcerative collitis. I dont think it would be C. Diff he wasnt on the abx that long and is an otherwise healthy person. Cipro an dflagyl are the prefered abx for dealing with issues in the gut (at least thats what we use)

my suggestions would be a CT scan and a GI referral, not sure if they would need to scope you from above or below.

Yeah, they got to check with us Internet Badasses first instead of just seeing a medical professional like you or a Gastro...

tommymac
12-04-2012, 02:42 PM
Yeah, they got to check with us Internet Badasses first instead of just seeing a medical professional like you or a Gastro...

based on his symptoms I MIGHT do a ct in the er but would def refer him to a gi doc

Trip
12-04-2012, 02:55 PM
based on his symptoms I MIGHT do a ct in the er but would def refer him to a gi doc

yeah, after my experiences diagnosing my issues, there is a lot of shit that can go wrong down there. Hell, you could find a number of different cancers early instead of just following internet advice.

tommymac
12-04-2012, 02:59 PM
yeah, after my experiences diagnosing my issues, there is a lot of shit that can go wrong down there. Hell, you could find a number of different cancers early instead of just following internet advice.

True, in the ER it can be tricky, do you scan every person with belly pain, of course we cant/dont, but their primary doctor can set one up or refer to a specialist. We are looking for emergent problems first like appendicitis. If we can rule that stuff out then our work is usualy done and you have to follow up with a specialist or your own doctor.

All this diet stuff is more a diagnosis of exclusion, rule out othe rproblems first befor emaking that diagnosis, thats how serious issues can be missed.

Kaneman
12-04-2012, 06:03 PM
Was just thinking about your diet this morning... How is your diet going?

Fucking awesome man, should I post an update in the fitness and shit thread?

Rangerscott
12-04-2012, 08:07 PM
Hey guys. Went in to get tye H. Polyri test. They didnt charge me.

Im doing my best to keep my head up. Im just so worked up because Ive never felt bad for so long. Just got off the phone with dad. Hes my go to when Im feeling depressed or when I cant get something off my mind. I know Im not tye best person. I make mistakes every day and wish I coukd go back and do better. I dont have insurance so its extremely hard for me to keep a smile.

Im not asking for sympathy. Just a little bit of support.

Now I guess its time to wait for the test result and a phone call from the Gastro.

tommymac
12-04-2012, 09:01 PM
Hey guys. Went in to get tye H. Polyri test. They didnt charge me.

Im doing my best to keep my head up. Im just so worked up because Ive never felt bad for so long. Just got off the phone with dad. Hes my go to when Im feeling depressed or when I cant get something off my mind. I know Im not tye best person. I make mistakes every day and wish I coukd go back and do better. I dont have insurance so its extremely hard for me to keep a smile.

Im not asking for sympathy. Just a little bit of support.

Now I guess its time to wait for the test result and a phone call from the Gastro.

If you have any questions or want me to talk you through anything LMK on here or via PM and I will see what I can do.

Trip
12-04-2012, 09:11 PM
Man, definitely get to the gastro as soon as you can. Not to depress you worse but it took them about 2 years to get me to the point of living comfortably and I still have some flare ups. Here's hoping its an easy fix.

Rangerscott
12-04-2012, 09:50 PM
Thanks tommy and trip. Hell hopefully its jsut from tye stress and worrying. Wouldnt that be a big relief.

Rangerscott
12-04-2012, 09:57 PM
Im gonna take my dads advice and stop reading into stuff. Tyeres too much debbie downers when looking into digestive problems.

It just sucks soooo much to go from being fine for so long to this. Does feel good to have not had a soda for so long. I really thought it was going to be difficult to stop that.

OneSickPsycho
12-05-2012, 09:10 AM
Fucking awesome man, should I post an update in the fitness and shit thread?

yeah... interested in any blood tests or other stuff...

Sean
12-05-2012, 09:44 AM
I did a fast / cleanse a while back, it was high doses of fiber and amino acid tabs. Nothing but that and a little grape juice. It was like hitting ctrl-alt-del on my digestive system. I didn't get bloated every afternoon and I stopped farting. Some has come back after a few years so I'd like to do it again, but I haven't been able to find the kit.

Rangerscott
12-09-2012, 02:35 PM
Hey guys. Just a little update. Been taking it as easy as possible to keep my mind at ease and taking my time movinf things to my new to me house.

Talked to my dad a coupme days ago and he said he had the same thing happen to him a year ago. He got a stomach/intestinal bug and he didnt go No 2 "normal" for three months. Even after antibiotislcs ajd such , it just took his body a good while to get rid of it. He said his stool is exactly what mine is right now.

I need to rind tge news article that came out here weeks ago about a bad stomach bug going around.


Im toing to call the doc tomorrow and see if she wants me to give it another shot with the antibiotucs since I only got about 3 days worth in me the last time before I quit. I really dont think I have IBS because Im not going at all different times. Now down to morning and sometimes noonish. Im not D or C or even rotating between the two. I dont get cramps or bloating or any sharp jab pains.

The really only time I feel uncomfortable is when my stomach is on empty, but Ive been like that for as long as I can remember. My stomach always been a bit of a dick when its on empty.

Kaneman
12-10-2012, 09:29 AM
Sounds like my stomach when I used to eat shitty food all the time, especially the part about being uncomfortable when your stomach is empty. Going as far back at 7th grade I would get "morning sickness" and start puking/heaving the instant I would try to eat or brush my teeth. Parents/Doctor put me on Prevacid, it didn't do anything. I went through this for years, probably puked up tons of stomach lining, and got pissed every time it happened.

Eventually I made the association between having to do something I hated (go to work, go to a funeral, etc) and my stomach being torn up in the morning. When I had something awesome to do I would wake up feeling great, no puking. And when I rode my motorcycle around the country for a few months it went away and I almost forgot about it...until I had to start working again.

After I got married and this was still going on my wife told me I should use some Cannabis in the morning (also known as a "wake-n-bake" for you old fucks) and see if that helped it, and since Cannabis is the most useful plant in the world it worked like a charm and I could even eat breakfast now if I wanted.

Now that I eat right it doesn't matter if I have anxiety at night and in the morning or not and I don't have to wake-n-bake to avoid puking, I'm pretty much good to go. Maybe one episode every few months. For me those problems were a strange mix of anxiety and shitty foods (in my case excessive amounts of gluten).

Goddamn, didn't expect that to be so long.

Trip
12-11-2012, 07:52 AM
Sounds almost like you might have mild IBS, Kaneman. A big part of the solution is cutting out foods that fuck with your stomach, hell healthy foods can be included in that, not just the bad shit. There may be something you are still eating that causes the occassional issue.

Kaneman
12-11-2012, 09:29 AM
Sounds almost like you might have mild IBS, Kaneman. A big part of the solution is cutting out foods that fuck with your stomach, hell healthy foods can be included in that, not just the bad shit. There may be something you are still eating that causes the occassional issue.

I still go on a pizza binge now and then. My problem seems to be with gluten...

Adeptus_Minor
12-11-2012, 10:27 AM
I still go on a pizza binge now and then. My problem seems to be with gluten...

I'm starting to wonder if that might not be my problem as well.
Some things don't bother me as much as others, but things like plain bread, pizza crust... anything made with a lot of cheap flour... causes me to either have bad heartburn, feel bloated, or both.
I've found that switching to sprouted grain bread has helped. (sorry, can't give up sandwiches or toast) and I just try to avoid pizza binges, a lot of pasta, etc.

Rangerscott
12-16-2012, 08:37 PM
Im done waiting. Call the doc and saying this isnt stress shit; im fucked up. Insurance or not I gotta get this figured out.

Kaneman
12-17-2012, 09:23 AM
No change in diet?

Rangerscott
12-17-2012, 09:58 AM
No change in diet?

Havent been eating out other than a couple subways. Was gluten free for awhile. Pretty much just light cereal in the morning, couple sandwhiches for lunch, and whatever I can find thats light for dinner. Had a steak that I dried out with paper towels. Got cramped up for a few hours. Just wanted to see if I coukd tolerate it. Guess not. I know duet changes take time but Im tired and my job requires travel.

Last friday my lower back was giving me a good amount of trouble at work. Food is still moving fast in my guts. Still yellow and pale. Some times theres discomfort on my left side, sometimes the right, or both. Then my lower back feels like Ive been lifting all day.

Tsunami
12-20-2012, 04:25 AM
What is yellow and pale? Your shit??

Maybe its your gallbladder?

tommymac
12-20-2012, 07:45 AM
What is yellow and pale? Your shit??

Maybe its your gallbladder?

Doubt it, I would like to think they ruled that out early. A quick sono and check of LFT's an dmaybe a lipase to r/o pancreatitis and youre done.

Rangerscott
12-20-2012, 10:01 AM
Got an appountment with the gastro next wed.

Tsunami
12-21-2012, 03:11 AM
So mindboggling!

Rangerscott
12-21-2012, 10:37 PM
So mindboggling!

The good thing is im still not in pain. Just pressure in places that comes and goes. Today it was under my rib cage on both sides. It let up a couple hours ago after eating grilled salmon.

Going to eat the least amount of fat as possible the next few days and see how I feel.

Kaneman
12-23-2012, 11:25 AM
The good thing is im still not in pain. Just pressure in places that comes and goes. Today it was under my rib cage on both sides. It let up a couple hours ago after eating grilled salmon.

Going to eat the least amount of fat as possible the next few days and see how I feel.

I hate to seem like I'm hating on everything you're doing, but fat is good and necessary for your body. Fuck bread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exi7O1li_wA

Rangerscott
12-23-2012, 12:33 PM
Its good unless your gallbladder is screwed up.

Rangerscott
12-24-2012, 05:27 PM
Does oatmeal make any of yalls stool more dry? Been eating it for the past 4-5 days, one to two times a day. Thought the added fiber would help but I think its making it worse. Hmmmm.

tommymac
12-25-2012, 07:28 PM
I hate to seem like I'm hating on everything you're doing, but fat is good and necessary for your body. Fuck bread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exi7O1li_wA

good point on the fat/cholesterol, it is a very necessary component for the body, just not in the quantities most people ingest.

Rangerscott
12-25-2012, 07:55 PM
I knew fats are good. Im a pretty healthy person, its just this crap came out of the blue. Yesterday and today have been my best days. No pressure under the rib cage or anything. Have felt a little lightheaded today but not falling down or anything crazy.

This sounds like me but minus the drinking and diahrrea. I did have some reflux/burp ups before all of this, but it very seldom now.

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/digestive-disorders/761096-stomach-problem-lightheaded.html

tommymac
12-25-2012, 08:32 PM
Did they ever check for a hiatal hernia? Just thinking out loud on that one.

Rangerscott
12-25-2012, 09:01 PM
Did they ever check for a hiatal hernia? Just thinking out loud on that one.

Maybe one of the things the gastro guy will check. The minor emergency only did so much.

tommymac
12-26-2012, 07:11 AM
Maybe one of the things the gastro guy will check. The minor emergency only did so much.

Have you had a ct scan of the abdomen yet? Could be a good start or see what the GI guys want to do. Would most likley want an endoscopy too. Working the ER we have a different mindset and if I can rule out about 4 or 5 things, then my work is done and off to the specialists you go.

Rangerscott
12-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Did a stool drop off. Hopefully the results will show up soon. Got an ultrasound scheduled monday morning.

After that he'll decude if I need a endo/colon scope.

Rangerscott
12-31-2012, 06:40 PM
Meqnt to call the doc early today and got busy. Didnt get around till 3pm and everyone was gone. The lady sounded like my stool test results were in so Ill have to wait till wednesday. Man, please just be something simple.

Kaneman
01-01-2013, 09:57 AM
Still eating all processed foods?

shmike
01-01-2013, 01:52 PM
Still eating all processed foods?

Nope, just Subway. :lol

Rangerscott
01-01-2013, 02:24 PM
Still eating all processed foods?

Mornings are either oatmeal or fiberone cereal. Lunch is the hardest for me to get fiber. I take two sandwhiches turkey/chicken w/ lettuce, apples , pears. I cram as much as I can in a lunch pale. Dinner is usually chicken with lots of vegetables (peas, lima beans, black eye peas, etc).

Im moved into my house now and got me a grill/griddle thing and going to cook salmon with it. Had salmon a few times and it goes down easy, just get hungry later on.

Still no change. Dry in the morning and either dry the rest of tye day or some what normal. Still pale in color.

Kaneman
01-01-2013, 05:26 PM
Mornings are either oatmeal or fiberone cereal. Lunch is the hardest for me to get fiber. I take two sandwhiches turkey/chicken w/ lettuce, apples , pears. I cram as much as I can in a lunch pale. Dinner is usually chicken with lots of vegetables (peas, lima beans, black eye peas, etc).

Im moved into my house now and got me a grill/griddle thing and going to cook salmon with it. Had salmon a few times and it goes down easy, just get hungry later on.

Still no change. Dry in the morning and either dry the rest of tye day or some what normal. Still pale in color.

I'm not going to try to force anything on you but if you want some advice or some tweaks here and there PM me...I have 5 clients now who are seeing great results health and fitness wise. No clue as to whether or not it would help you since we're not sure what's wrong, but eating right never hurt anyone.

Rangerscott
01-01-2013, 07:04 PM
Pm'd ya.

Rangerscott
01-02-2013, 05:54 PM
They wont tell me the results over the phone. Hate that shit. Last visit was $200. I cant keep paying that wvery time they have something to tell me. Gonna try to see if I can get the ultra sound moved closer and a check up so he can disuss two things instead one.

Rangerscott
01-07-2013, 11:52 AM
Ultrasound done. The guy guessed intestinal. He didnt seem to find anything out of the ordinary. Gallbladder lwas solid dark and looked like a long finger so I guess thats good. Dont know what stones would have looked like.

Follow up is wednesday

Kaneman
01-09-2013, 04:12 PM
Fix the things you can control first. If and only if that doesn't work go see a Dr. There's no point in filling yourself full of crappy stuff and then paying a Dr hundreds of dollars to try to figure it out. Check your email. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you.

The average Doctor's knowledge of nutrition is very limited and is based on shitty research from the 40's-60's. Did they even discuss what you've been putting in your digestive system or offer sound advice?

Trip
01-09-2013, 04:46 PM
Fix the things you can control first. If and only if that doesn't work go see a Dr. There's no point in filling yourself full of crappy stuff and then paying a Dr hundreds of dollars to try to figure it out. Check your email. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you.

The average Doctor's knowledge of nutrition is very limited and is based on shitty research from the 40's-60's. Did they even discuss what you've been putting in your digestive system or offer sound advice?

Mine has a nutritionist. Any decent gastro doctor knows a great deal about nutrition if you actually go to a decent specialist.

Kaneman
01-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Mine has a nutritionist. Any decent gastro doctor knows a great deal about nutrition if you actually go to a decent specialist.

Just depends on who you get...mine didn't know shit.

Trip
01-09-2013, 05:53 PM
Just depends on who you get...mine didn't know shit.

Yeah, I am fortunate enough to have decent insurance and got to shop around, would be hard for people who can't.

Rangerscott
01-09-2013, 10:03 PM
Ultrasound showed nothing unusual. Everything looked good. Stool test came up negative on everything.

He recommended me to try metamucil in the morning and evening to see if thatll help get rid of the constipation. Also to wing off of dairy. Been using soy milk and gonna try lactose free milk. Then to stay away from fructose.

shmike
01-09-2013, 10:18 PM
Ultrasound showed nothing unusual. Everything looked good. Stool test came up negative on everything.

He recommended me to try metamucil in the morning and evening to see if thatll help get rid of the constipation. Also to wing off of dairy. Been using soy milk and gonna try lactose free milk. Then to stay away from fructose.

Do yourself a favor and listen to Kaneman.

Rangerscott
01-09-2013, 11:43 PM
He thinks I have IBS just like the other doc did.

Trip
01-10-2013, 10:12 AM
He thinks I have IBS just like the other doc did.

IBS is what the bad docs tell you when they have no fucking clue how to fix you. Start eating better, try Kaneman's diet, and keep a food diary. Find out what triggers you have, it can even come from healthy food if you actually have IBS. For example, I can't eat anything with tomatoes in it without paying for it later.

Do you have any sinus issues?

shmike
01-10-2013, 11:21 AM
He thinks I have IBS just like the other doc did.

I meant from a diet standpoint.

Rangerscott
01-10-2013, 02:31 PM
I meant from a diet standpoint.

I know.


IBS is what the bad docs tell you when they have no fucking clue how to fix you. Start eating better, try Kaneman's diet, and keep a food diary. Find out what triggers you have, it can even come from healthy food if you actually have IBS. For example, I can't eat anything with tomatoes in it without paying for it later.

Do you have any sinus issues?

No. I get allergies during the summer but its gotten a lot better since childhood.

Trip
01-10-2013, 02:57 PM
No. I get allergies during the summer but its gotten a lot better since childhood.

That actually caused a lot of my issues. I had a lot of seasonal sinus bullshit and I got that cleared up and now that I don't have the drainage issue, I don't have nearly as much stomach issues.

Rangerscott
01-10-2013, 03:51 PM
That actually caused a lot of my issues. I had a lot of seasonal sinus bullshit and I got that cleared up and now that I don't have the drainage issue, I don't have nearly as much stomach issues.

Hmmm. Nah I dont have anything like that going. Just a lot of sneezing when my allergies act up. Theyre mellow during the winter.

Kaneman
01-11-2013, 06:07 PM
Metamucil and Soy Milk?!?!?!?! Goddamn dude...

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 06:45 PM
Metamucil and Soy Milk?!?!?!?! Goddamn dude...

Just reapeating what the doc said. Although soy milk isnt as bad as peaople make it out to be.

Homeslice
01-11-2013, 08:06 PM
Most Americans have worse diets than he does, and the vast majority of them don't have these problems. I'm no doctor, but logic dictates that a grown adult isn't going to suddenly transition from having no problems at all, to suddenly having weeks of pain and stool problems, because of a diet that never even changed in the first place. You've got an intestinal bug or something dude.

Tsunami
01-11-2013, 08:13 PM
Most Americans have worse diets than he does, and the vast majority of them don't have these problems. I'm no doctor, but logic dictates that a grown adult isn't going to suddenly transition from having no problems at all, to suddenly having weeks of pain and stool problems, because of a diet that never even changed in the first place.

Agreed

Rangerscott are you a ocd, anal retentive, anxious or very stressed out all the time? I have read in several places that IBS can be caused by stress. Maybe instead of more fiber you need some ativan :)

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 08:18 PM
Heres my ultrasound and stool test results.

Ultrasound

Tye aorta appears normal. Tye liver shows no focal leasion measuring 14.6 cm in greatest dimension. Portal vein shows hepatopetal flow. The imaged portions of the pancreas show no lesions. Right kidney appears normal measuring 9.9 cm in greatest dimension. The gallbladder appears normal (I saw it, looked like a big finger). A small amount of floating debris was noted in the gallbladder ( didnt see that, it was solid black on the screen. Was told stones are white). Spleen appears normal measuring 9.5 cm longitudinally. The left kidney appears normal measuring 9.3 cm longitudinally.

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Agreed

Rangerscott are you a ocd, anal retentive, anxious or very stressed out all the time? I have read in several places that IBS can be caused by stress. Maybe instead of more fiber you need some ativan :)

Yes and no. I dont want to sound like one of those people that says theyre something that theyre not. Im not the type that has to have thing organzied a certain way or qll rain man. I do like doing things myself and my boss is my brother but I dont lose sleep over anything. I gan get ralled up but I can calm down just fine.

If youre hanging around me youd never know. Its just certain people can annoy me.

I did get stressed out when I was closing on the house and I was still sick but that is long gone. Ive gotten a lot better not thinking about this but its always gonna be in tye back of my mind.

Im not gonna take crazy pills. Ive been around plenty of people that take them. Im not a fan of the symptoms they can cause. I am not a fan of taking medication. I barely take tylenol.

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 08:44 PM
Most Americans have worse diets than he does, and the vast majority of them don't have these problems. I'm no doctor, but logic dictates that a grown adult isn't going to suddenly transition from having no problems at all, to suddenly having weeks of pain and stool problems, because of a diet that never even changed in the first place. You've got an intestinal bug or something dude.

My thinking too. Im not constantly siting around thinking I have cancer but I wasnt doing anything abnormal for me when all this started. There was a bug going around when it started but I never went full symptoms of having it.

Tsunami
01-11-2013, 08:44 PM
Fair enough :) My brother and one of my best friends have IBS and they are always stressed. Well at least testing shows that there is nothing acutely wrong so at least you can stop worrying about that part.

You can always try to go the holistic route for symptom management- acupuncture, herbs etc. Lots of green and peppermint tea work helps- its good for digestion,

Homeslice
01-11-2013, 08:50 PM
Rangerscott are you a ocd, anal retentive, anxious or very stressed out all the time? I have read in several places that IBS can be caused by stress. Maybe instead of more fiber you need some ativan :)
Agreed, I have often gotten cramps & bloating due to stress. Also some artificial sweeteners can cause that.

Also, lack of sleep and exercise definitely cause bowel problems, although usually constipation instead of what you've got. Like I said before, I think you have a bug that's being resistant.

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 08:56 PM
Stool test

Final - 29 Dec 2012
4+ Normal Enteric flora

No salmonella, shigella, campylobacter, staph.aureus, Plesiomonas, Aeromonas

Pre - 28 Dec 2012
4+ Normal Enteric Flora

FLeu Report - 26 Dec
No Wbcs Seen

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No fecal fat globules seen

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Occult Blood: Negative

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Giardia Antigen: Negative

Cryptosporidium Antigen: Negative

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No Ova or parasites seen in concentrate or Trichrome-stained smear examination

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Rotavirus CIA negative

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No cyclospora oocysts seen

No isospora oocysts seen

Rangerscott
01-11-2013, 08:58 PM
Agreed, I have often gotten cramps & bloating due to stress. Also some artificial sweeteners can cause that.

Also, lack of sleep and exercise definitely cause bowel problems, although usually constipation instead of what you've got. Like I said before, I think you have a bug that's being resistant.

O I got constipation. Nothing like forcing out rocks to get your day started.

The only good thing is my weight is holding and I feel the same other than the digestive stuff. Dont seem to have a problem with malnutrition.

Kaneman
01-12-2013, 09:58 AM
Most Americans have worse diets than he does, and the vast majority of them don't have these problems. I'm no doctor, but logic dictates that a grown adult isn't going to suddenly transition from having no problems at all, to suddenly having weeks of pain and stool problems, because of a diet that never even changed in the first place. You've got an intestinal bug or something dude.

Are you sure or are you just guessing? Because you're wrong. Many people with celiac disease have always had symptoms they just didn't recognize, but the serious ones like Ranger is describing tend to come on in a matter of a week or so causing the sufferer to seek medical attention. There is most definitely a breaking point, and it is usually a big one.

Homeslice
01-12-2013, 11:43 AM
Assuming of course that he actually HAS that disease, in which case it probably would have been diagnosed by now, with all the tests he's been through.

Kaneman
01-13-2013, 08:56 AM
Assuming of course that he actually HAS that disease, in which case it probably would have been diagnosed by now, with all the tests he's been through.

I haven't heard that they tested him for gluten intolerance, and I was using Celiac disease as an example, though there are many other issues that could present in the same manner that are food intake related. I'm not opposed to him going to the Dr. if he wants to spend money that way, there are certainly real medical issues that could affect him.

However, considering what he told us he eats all day, it easily stands to reason that the first step in fixing your digestive system would be to fix the crap you put in it. Unfortunately for most people what they eat and how they fix it is usually the last step.

Rangerscott
01-14-2013, 01:01 AM
Going to start the gluten free diet again tomorrow. Also keeping sugar as low as possible incase it is a yeast problem.

shmike
01-14-2013, 10:13 AM
Going to start the gluten free diet again tomorrow. Also keeping sugar as low as possible incase it is a yeast problem.

Just an FYI: Gluten Free is very expensive and a huge PITA if you do it like most people (try to eat all the things that have gluten in them without the gluten).

If you just stick to a diet of whole foods, it's actually pretty easy to not take in any gluten.

Homeslice
01-14-2013, 10:41 AM
Going to start the gluten free diet again tomorrow.

Again? When was the last time you did it?

Did your doctors ever say anything about gluten to you? If not, why not ask for testing to see if they diagnose you for it?

Rangerscott
01-14-2013, 12:57 PM
Again? When was the last time you did it?

Did your doctors ever say anything about gluten to you? If not, why not ask for testing to see if they diagnose you for it?

From what Ive researched there is a blood test for 3 things but i keep reading over and over that its not that accurate. You can do a biopsy but that requires a colonoscopy.

Homeslice
01-14-2013, 02:16 PM
From what Ive researched there is a blood test for 3 things but i keep reading over and over that its not that accurate. You can do a biopsy but that requires a colonoscopy.

For testing gluten intolerance, right?

I mean, you can try a gluten-free diet, but even if you improve, you'll never really know if it was that or the elimination of a bug that made you better. Personally I would go ahead and get tested.

Kaneman
01-14-2013, 05:50 PM
Just an FYI: Gluten Free is very expensive and a huge PITA if you do it like most people (try to eat all the things that have gluten in them without the gluten).

If you just stick to a diet of whole foods, it's actually pretty easy to not take in any gluten.

Huh? No way. I almost never eat gluten (splurge on pizza sometimes) and I don't think my grocery bill went up...

Its really simple guys, you just buy the clearance beef and freeze it or cook it when you get home. I eat nothing but Ribeyes, Sirloins, T-Bones, Tri-tips and roasts (beef wise) and I never pay more than $3.99 per lb. Veggies are cheap, potatoes are cheap. Double cheeseburgers are $1.29 for christ's sake, eggs are usually $2 per dozen or cheaper!!...Its not hard to eat real food for every meal.

Trip
01-14-2013, 06:22 PM
Beef can be very difficult on your stomach, especially if you are eating like in the quantities you are suggesting and he's not use to that type of intake.. Especially being really undiagnosed right now. Chicken, fish, or turkey is a better route.

Rangerscott
01-14-2013, 06:27 PM
Hey Kane. What do you eat for breakfast and lunch? Im on the road a lot for work so lunch is kicking my butt. I just got a couple loafs of gluten free bread (rice flour) and yes I know fuck bread, but I cant think of what to take. I just get my lunch pale and throw in 2 sandwhiches, apples, pears, bananas. Not sure if Im gonna keep on with yogurt. Gonna try without dairy and see what that does.

I gotta eat to get ful. I cant just take a salad for lunch. I dont need to lose any more weight.

Homeslice
01-14-2013, 06:49 PM
Get yourself some tupperware and use it to take brown rice, black-eye peas, and/or kidney beans to work with you. That can be your carb source. Thow in some chicken or fish..... done.

Rangerscott
01-14-2013, 07:10 PM
Get yourself some tupperware and use it to take brown rice, black-eye peas, and/or kidney beans to work with you. That can be your carb source. Thow in some chicken or fish..... done.

Dont mind eating cold chicken but is cold fish ok to eat? Cooked is cooked cold or hot right. Id have to cook it the night before and nuke it in the morning. I really dont want to get up earlier than what I alreaey do to prepare my lunch.

Ive always been more of a bird eater over steak. Not that I dont like cow, just always seemedbetter to me. Im really digging these turkey patties Ive been getting. I just throw on some all season salt, pepper, and a tad of garlic and throw them on my electric grill/skillet thing.

Kaneman
01-14-2013, 07:23 PM
Hey Kane. What do you eat for breakfast and lunch? Im on the road a lot for work so lunch is kicking my butt. I just got a couple loafs of gluten free bread (rice flour) and yes I know fuck bread, but I cant think of what to take. I just get my lunch pale and throw in 2 sandwhiches, apples, pears, bananas. Not sure if Im gonna keep on with yogurt. Gonna try without dairy and see what that does.

I gotta eat to get ful. I cant just take a salad for lunch. I dont need to lose any more weight.

I usually don't eat until between Noon and 3pm, depending on the morning's level of exertion, and when I do it is usually 3-4 eggs in grass-fed butter and 3-4 strips of bacon, greens and maybe some additional sources of lean protein again depending on exertion level. My second meal of the day is usually "dinner" and its usually a steak w/butter, a bunch of greens cooked various ways or eaten as a salad and if I lifted that day I'll usually have a big baked potato and some pie or ice cream too.

Hard-boiled eggs and bacon carry and travel quite well. You should ABSOLUTELY get full whenever you eat. Salads are a side, not a main course. All this rice-flour, gluten-free bread shit sounds disgusting. Honestly, does that stuff taste good? If not, there's a reason...stuff that tastes like cardboard generally has the same nutrition density. Eat delicious, juicy, nutrient-dense whole foods. If it goes bad and it tastes good then its probably good for you. If it can sit on your counter for a week or two or three at room temperature then its not food, don't eat it.

No one ever believes me, but you can also hit up McD's for some double cheeseburgers (don't eat those nasty buns). Great, cheap, healthy. For real. No, it shouldn't be your every meal, but its a good go-to.

I'm not sure about the whole beef being harder on your stomach than chicken or fish because that is entirely subjective to your own body and all meats are broken down in the stomach fairly quickly anyway. If anything I would think the insoluble fibers of the brown-rice and lentils (there's a reason beans make you fart) that Homeslice is suggesting would cause far more problems than any meat source you choose.

Dont mind eating cold chicken but is cold fish ok to eat? Cooked is cooked cold or hot right. Id have to cook it the night before and nuke it in the morning. I really dont want to get up earlier than what I alreaey do to prepare my lunch.

Ive always been more of a bird eater over steak. Not that I dont like cow, just always seemedbetter to me. Im really digging these turkey patties Ive been getting. I just throw on some all season salt, pepper, and a tad of garlic and throw them on my electric grill/skillet thing.

Cold or hot is good, room temperature is bad, standard rule for all meats. Turkey patties are fine, just make sure you're getting enough fat in your diet.

Rangerscott
01-16-2013, 10:45 AM
Got the bill in for the stool test. With deposit it totals about $950 (50% off). Still waiting on ultrasound bill. Guy told me after the $100 deposit it should he around $300.

Goes to show how much they screw you over. Why eo insurance companies pay the stupid high cost?