How to screw your world in <5 minutes

[Adeptus_Minor]

A gentle reminder that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences...especially when the object of said speech is a sitting judge presiding over your case. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLA7dQ-uxR0

[OneSickPsycho]

WTF... where's the rest of it??? I want to see her reaction to THAT!

[Particle Man]

WTF... where's the rest of it??? I want to see her reaction to THAT!

This. Damn :lol

[Papa_Complex]

I didn't see it, but I heard her reaction on the radio this morning. Sounded like she was about to pass out.

The judge clearly over reacted to the "adios", but I'm with him on the 30 days for contempt. Too many people simply don't get that court is a serious place.

[RACER X]

prob. a dancer.

[RACER X]

By Mike Krumboltz | The Sideshow – 7 hrs ago....Email 0Share TweetShare0Print......


Never mess with people who have the power to make your life miserable. That includes DMV employees, waiters and baggage handlers. And judges. Especially them.

A Miami woman facing drug charges made her situation much worse when she laughed at and then flipped off the man with the gavel. File this case under: Ill advised.

According to NBC Miami, 18-year-old Penelope Soto was in court for charges relating to possession of Xanax, a prescription drug. Judge Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat was in the process of setting her bond. He asked Soto about the value of her jewelry. Soto laughed. That was strike one.

"It's not a joke, you know, we're not in a club now," Rodriguez-Chomat said. "We are not in a club. Be serious about it."

Soto replied: "I'm serious about it, you just made me laugh. You just made me laugh, I apologize. It's worth a lot of money."

The judge said, "Like what?" Soto compared the jewelry to a wealthy rapper. She replied that the jewelry is "like Rick Ross. It's worth money."

The perplexed judge asked if Soto had taken drugs within the past 24 hours, to which she answer, "Actually, no." The judge then set Soto's bond at $5,000 and said, "Bye-bye." Soto chuckled and said, "Adios." Strike two. The judge summoned her back and raised the bond to $10,000, eliciting gasps from those in the courtroom.

Soto asked if the judge was serious. Judges are not known for their humor, and Rodriguez-Chomat is no exception. "I am serious," he said. "Adios."

But Soto wasn't done. Instead of leaving the courtroom she flipped Rodriguez-Chomat the bird and said "F*** you." And that was strike three. Soto was again called back and then sentenced to thirty days in the big house for contempt of court.

[CasterTroy]

Now see...for JUST saying Adios? Yeah...he be trippin' 'n shit!

I thought maybe she flipped him off the first time as she was walking off and we couldn't see it....but DAMN...double the bail over Adios? DAMN!

[Trip]

That guy should be removed as a judge if he is doubling the bail for "adios"

Fuck that fat douche

[OneSickPsycho]

Her smug attitude warranted everything... No respect for the judge, the court, or the seriousness of the entire situation. Couldn't give a straight answer, being a smartass the whole time, and the 'adios' at the end was the icing on the cake. The whole point of the system is to punish behavior that is deemed unacceptable in society... everything that fucking idiot did, EXCEPT the actual charge she was there for was wrong. That's another debate however. I openly applaud this fucking guy.

[Dave]

That guy should be removed as a judge if he is doubling the bail for "adios"

Fuck that fat douche

this

[MikeSP1]

Double bond for "adios," probably a little excessive.

30 days in county for contempt of court as a result of childish actions in the courtroom, I'm all for it.

All-in-all, I'm all for this judge

[fasternyou929]

That guy should be removed as a judge if he is doubling the bail for "adios"

Fuck that fat douche

Straw that broke the camel's back. She is applying for a free public defender, but can't answer simple questions about her money. Makes $200 per week but has jewelry like "Rick Ross". Not how to answer a judge's question, especially when you're looking for a hand-out.

I'm pretty sure "Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat" isn't an old white man keeping the latina down. :lol

[Rangerscott]

Now see...for JUST saying Adios? Yeah...he be trippin' 'n shit!

I thought maybe she flipped him off the first time as she was walking off and we couldn't see it....but DAMN...double the bail over Adios? DAMN!

Im with you. He did his smart ass bye bye and she gets the shaft.

[Homeslice]

Im with you. He did his smart ass bye bye and she gets the shaft.

Exactly, it's a double-standard. He gets to put her down by saying she acts like she's in a club, and then his flippant little "bye bye", but when he gets a little of it back he can't take it.

Judges get too much power & respect IMO. What, just because you wear a robe, we're supposed to treat you almost as if you were a drill instructor?

Oh and what's with the whole "all rise" shit? When is that dumbass tradition going to end? Is this 17th century England or something?

[goof2]

She didn't get her bail doubled for saying Adios, at least not that alone. She was contemptuous of the court the entire time, probably not a smart fucking plan when the person it is directed toward has the power available at their sole discretion to charge you with "Contempt of Court".

Little Miss Shit-for-brains just learned an important lesson about acting like a clown in a courtroom. I suspect after a few days and discussion between her lawyer and the judge about instructing a client how a courtroom works, this idiot will be invited back to apologize. At that time I also suspect the judge will re-ask his questions which will likely be answered quickly and directly, without any of that "Rick Roll" shit. Afterward the rest of her 30 days will be vacated and bail will be set at a more reasonable amount. Even if the judge doesn't take that track you can bet the next time she is in front of a court this moron will think before wasting the court's time.

[RACER X]

Exactly, it's a double-standard. He gets to put her down by saying she acts like she's in a club, and then his flippant little "bye bye", but when he gets a little of it back he can't take it.

Judges get too much power & respect IMO. What, just because you wear a robe, we're supposed to treat you almost as if you were a drill instructor?

Oh and what's with the whole "all rise" shit? When is that dumbass tradition going to end? Is this 17th century England or something?

right, we should throw a 'duece' and 'what up homey' nod to the man in a dress who can fuk up the rest of your life.

[MikeSP1]

Exactly, it's a double-standard. He gets to put her down by saying she acts like she's in a club, and then his flippant little "bye bye", but when he gets a little of it back he can't take it.

Judges get too much power & respect IMO. What, just because you wear a robe, we're supposed to treat you almost as if you were a drill instructor?

Oh and what's with the whole "all rise" shit? When is that dumbass tradition going to end? Is this 17th century England or something?

She was being a wise-ass the entire time. She was being asked legitimate questions and was giving bullshit answers.

That person is on the bench not because they were voted there by subterfuge and lies, but by there own merit. That person didn't get up one day and say "I think I'll run for judge." It takes a lot of work and dedication to get to that point. The BAR isn't something to scoff at.

How is showing respect to an individual and an institution that should demand your full respect a "dumbass tradition"? The court room isn't high school or Sturgis. The individual with the gavel (or the twelve people on the side of the room, depending on what you've done) has the authority to send you to jail, make you pay a fine, make you stand at an intersection with a "Only an idiot would pass a school bus" sign, or send you to death row. That judge also has the power to issue warrants to search anything you own. Being flippant to someone that has that kind of power is simply not wise.

[CasterTroy]

That person is on the bench not because they were voted there by subterfuge and lies, but by there own merit.


Actually...that person was voted there by a majority of people who never knew who the hell they were voting for, but cast a vote for the "name" that most likely sounded the same as their own ethnicity.

How many times in the last several elections did you KNOW who you were voting for in the judges section?

I can see someone named Joseph Horowitz getting CRUSHED by Alfonzo Suarez Rodrigez in south florida, simply by name only.

[MikeSP1]

Actually...that person was voted there by a majority of people who never knew who the hell they were voting for, but cast a vote for the "name" that most likely sounded the same as their own ethnicity.

How many times in the last several elections did you KNOW who you were voting for in the judges section?

I can see someone named Joseph Horowitz getting CRUSHED by Alfonzo Suarez Rodrigez in south florida, simply by name only.

You can't be a judge just by running for it. There are a few prerequisites, like the BAR and experience with practicing law.

I agree with you in that far too many people are oblivious. How many people vote for candidate A just because that candidate is the democratic nominee without knowing anything about?

[CasterTroy]

You can't be a judge just by running for it. There are a few prerequisites, like the BAR and experience with practicing law.



Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear. I wasn't DISCOUNTING how a person GETS to that level. I.E. I wasn't saying ANYONE can be elected...just saying if there were two qualified people running and ONE had a more ethnic name, they'd likely have a better shot at winning in that majority by name alone



How many people vote for candidate A just because that candidate is the democratic nominee without knowing anything about?

People...are stupid

kkCwFkOZoOY

[MikeSP1]

Sorry, apparently I wasn't clear. I wasn't DISCOUNTING how a person GETS to that level. I.E. I wasn't saying ANYONE can be elected...just saying if there were two qualified people running and ONE had a more ethnic name, they'd likely have a better shot at winning in that majority by name alone



People...are stupid

kkCwFkOZoOY

Then are we both presenting an argument for why we agree with each other?

Judges are in a position of authority and respect based on credentials.

Sheeple are stupid.

[pauldun170]

She was being a wise-ass the entire time. She was being asked legitimate questions and was giving bullshit answers.

That person is on the bench not because they were voted there by subterfuge and lies, but by there own merit. That person didn't get up one day and say "I think I'll run for judge." It takes a lot of work and dedication to get to that point. The BAR isn't something to scoff at.

How is showing respect to an individual and an institution that should demand your full respect a "dumbass tradition"? The court room isn't high school or Sturgis. The individual with the gavel (or the twelve people on the side of the room, depending on what you've done) has the authority to send you to jail, make you pay a fine, make you stand at an intersection with a "Only an idiot would pass a school bus" sign, or send you to death row. That judge also has the power to issue warrants to search anything you own. Being flippant to someone that has that kind of power is simply not wise.


I could have sworn that you do not need to have a law degree in some parts of the US to be a judge.

[Papa_Complex]

I could have sworn that you do not need to have a law degree in some parts of the US to be a judge.

Could be but up here you need a law degree to be a judge, but not to be a JP. I would say that most of our justices of the peace are NOT actually trained in law.

[shmike]

I can see someone named Joseph Horowitz getting CRUSHED by Alfonzo Suarez Rodrigez in south florida, simply by name only.

What you smoking?

Horowitz would win by a landslide here.

Your example holds true in Miami but that's not South Florida; that's Miami.

[CasterTroy]

What you smoking?

Horowitz would win by a landslide here.

Your example holds true in Miami but that's not South Florida; that's Miami.

WTH?!?! Granted it's been since 2009 since I was in south Flo...and yes...I stayed in Miami, but we rode all over S. Flo. and (to me) it was only slightly less cuban than Miami.

Guess the Hebrew nation decided it was too hot while were were there and stayed indoors :rockwoot:

[pauldun170]

Could be but up here you need a law degree to be a judge, but not to be a JP. I would say that most of our justices of the peace are NOT actually trained in law.

Down in the States...I could be a Judge in some states
http://www.judicialselection.us/judicial_selection/methods/limited_jurisdiction_courts.cfm

[EpyonXero]

Down in the States...I could be a Judge in some states
http://www.judicialselection.us/judicial_selection/methods/limited_jurisdiction_courts.cfm

Being a lawyer isnt even a requirement to become a Supreme Court justice.

[pauldun170]

Being a lawyer isnt even a requirement to become a Supreme Court justice.

Oh yeah...
Forgot about that one.

[Homeslice]

Guess the Hebrew nation decided it was too hot while were were there and stayed indoors :rockwoot:

:lol:

[Homeslice]

How is showing respect to an individual and an institution that should demand your full respect a "dumbass tradition"? The court room isn't high school or Sturgis. The individual with the gavel (or the twelve people on the side of the room, depending on what you've done) has the authority to send you to jail, make you pay a fine, make you stand at an intersection with a "Only an idiot would pass a school bus" sign, or send you to death row. That judge also has the power to issue warrants to search anything you own. Being flippant to someone that has that kind of power is simply not wise.

Plenty of people have the power to fuck up my life, including police officers, DA's, and my bosses at work. But I don't have to call them "your honor" or rise when they enter the room. It just seems silly in this day & age. I'm not in the military, so I shouldn't have to rise when an authority figure enters the room.

[RACER X]

yup, still a kid, or at least maturity wise

i guess the judge has to earn your respect to

[MikeSP1]

Plenty of people have the power to fuck up my life, including police officers, DA's, and my bosses at work. But I don't have to call them "your honor" or rise when they enter the room. It just seems silly in this day & age. I'm not in the military, so I shouldn't have to rise when an authority figure enters the room.

Do you think that it's smart to not show respect to a police officer, DA, or your boss?

Now those examples don't hold a candle to the power and responsibility of a judge. A judge does not wield absolute power, there are checks and balances in place to keep the judicial system in line.

[Homeslice]

All that should be necessary in court is: Stand straight, maintain eye contact, call them Sir or Ma'am, treat them with respect, and don't use any casual slang.

Not sure why "your honor" or rising when they enter the room is necessary.

My guess is it's done to make sure that "lowest common denominator" peeps are forced to wake up and realize that a courtroom is an important place that demands their full attention and clarity. But anyone who is halfway intelligent and raised well doesn't need such hand-holding. They can already do what I described in my first paragraph without being told to.

[Papa_Complex]

But anyone who is halfway intelligent and raised well.....

Aaaaaand the system breaks down here.

[pauldun170]

Just dropping this here
You know the deal....liveleak link
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e0_1360266647

[goof2]

Just dropping this here
You know the deal....liveleak link

That is less cut an dried than the judge. The whole "Your on my time" shit from the cop for supposedly taking 45 minutes to respond to an assault call and the "Are you going to put your cigarette out like I asked you" when I never heard him ask in the first place were kind of BS. I particularly enjoyed "I'm not going to charge you with it" like the cop was doing the guy a favor, charge him with what? It sounded like the guy may have had a valid complaint about their response time but he went about it all wrong deciding to be Billy Bad-Ass to the cops. He also may have had a valid complaint about his treatment, but it likely would have gone nowhere.

Of course this video also reenforces the idea that when seconds count the cops are only minutes away.

[MikeSP1]

All that should be necessary in court is: Stand straight, maintain eye contact, call them Sir or Ma'am, treat them with respect, and don't use any casual slang.

Not sure why "your honor" or rising when they enter the room is necessary.

My guess is it's done to make sure that "lowest common denominator" peeps are forced to wake up and realize that a courtroom is an important place that demands their full attention and clarity. But anyone who is halfway intelligent and raised well doesn't need such hand-holding. They can already do what I described in my first paragraph without being told to.

You're right, those of us that are raised right and know right from wrong wouldn't need such hand-holding. Then again, those of us that are raised right are usually the complainant, if we're in the courtroom at all.

Those "lowest common denominator" usually need that wake up call. Unfortunately there are some people that are too oblivious to heed it or understand it.

[goof2]

She didn't get her bail doubled for saying Adios, at least not that alone. She was contemptuous of the court the entire time, probably not a smart fucking plan when the person it is directed toward has the power available at their sole discretion to charge you with "Contempt of Court".

Little Miss Shit-for-brains just learned an important lesson about acting like a clown in a courtroom. I suspect after a few days and discussion between her lawyer and the judge about instructing a client how a courtroom works, this idiot will be invited back to apologize. At that time I also suspect the judge will re-ask his questions which will likely be answered quickly and directly, without any of that "Rick Roll" shit. Afterward the rest of her 30 days will be vacated and bail will be set at a more reasonable amount. Even if the judge doesn't take that track you can bet the next time she is in front of a court this moron will think before wasting the court's time.

How about that:

http://www.wtsp.com/news/watercooler/article/297006/58/Woman-apologizes-flipping-off-judge

MIAMI, Florida (AP) - A young Miami woman apologized for flipping off a judge, who then dropped contempt charges and vacated her 30-day jail term.

Eighteen-year-old Penelope Soto admitted Friday she was under the influence of Xanax and alcohol when she made the obscene middle- finger gesture and rude comments earlier this week directed at Circuit Judge Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat. Video of the confrontation quickly went viral.

Soto tearfully apologized to the judge, who said the episode should be a lesson in how to properly treat people. Rodriguez-Chomat said Soto would have been a convicted felon if he allowed the contempt charge to stand.

Her lawyer said Soto will complete a drug court program, which includes treatment for drug addiction and usually results in charges eventually being dropped for first-time offenders.

[Homeslice]

18? I would have guessed 23-24. Guess drugs do that to you.
And contempt of court is a felony, not a misdemeanor? BS imo.