Xbox One

[fatbuckRTO]

http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif

Yeah, that's pretty much what was going through my head for the entire Xbox One "reveal." It really sucks that I'll never get to play another new Halo game, but that would be difficult seeing as I'll never buy an Xbox One.

Between this and Windows 8, Microsoft is really starting to suck out loud. I wonder how long I can get by on Windows 7 and an Xbox 360...

[Rangerscott]

Screw that. Theyre already destroying pc gaming with that shit.

You what. If gaming companies want 24/7 connectivity then fine. They can pay my internet bill then.

[Sixxxxer]

I dont really see the issue with 24/7 Connectivity. If you have internet what does it matter?

Blah Blah Blah...You not buying it won't hurt there wallets any.

[Sixxxxer]

Funny thing about the GIF...Half of the shit isn't even Officially Known yet. It's all speculation.

[fatbuckRTO]

Blah Blah Blah...You not buying it won't hurt there wallets any.So?

[Rangerscott]

I live in a small town now. Its either shitty dsl or nothing. Id rather have nothing.

Having to connect for SP games is irritating.

[Porkchop]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7358-Xbox-One-out-of-Ten

I'm not even the least bit a hardcore gamer, but this dude is 100% right. Microsoft/Xbox is about to dig their own grave with this festering pile of doo doo. Who doesn't already have a Blu-ray player? Smart tv's have flooded the market (not that I have one tho). They say that they made something more suitable for more people than hardcore gamers.... this is a fucking GAMING CONSOLE. It's supposed to be for GAMING. Not the other internet bullshit that bogs down the system. If I want the internet, I have a desktop, laptop, and smartphone. I don't need my GAMING CONSOLE to do that.

Pisses me off. I'm glad I decided the 360 would be my last console, or else I would be running with my money to Sony.

[Trip]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7358-Xbox-One-out-of-Ten

I'm not even the least bit a hardcore gamer, but this dude is 100% right. Microsoft/Xbox is about to dig their own grave with this festering pile of doo doo. Who doesn't already have a Blu-ray player? Smart tv's have flooded the market (not that I have one tho). They say that they made something more suitable for more people than hardcore gamers.... this is a fucking GAMING CONSOLE. It's supposed to be for GAMING. Not the other internet bullshit that bogs down the system. If I want the internet, I have a desktop, laptop, and smartphone. I don't need my GAMING CONSOLE to do that.

Pisses me off. I'm glad I decided the 360 would be my last console, or else I would be running with my money to Sony.

Gaming consoles aren't used much for gaming. Almost 50 million people have a 360, a game is success if 2 million people buy it.

Sony and Microsoft realize they can't just sell hardcore gaming devices anymore. They have to appeal to the whole family especially with the price tags they now want for them.

[goof2]

Gaming consoles aren't used much for gaming. Almost 50 million people have a 360, a game is success if 2 million people buy it.

Sony and Microsoft realize they can't just sell hardcore gaming devices anymore. They have to appeal to the whole family especially with the price tags they now want for them.

To some extent I agree. The PS3 was released a year after the XBox 360 and had a significantly higher price. I think a lot of the reason PS3 sales can be viewed as a success despite these limitations is because it came with a BluRay drive and HDMI output, not purely gaming related.

[Cutty72]

PS3 was also before Smart TV's became popular, and bluray players became cheap(er)

[Porkchop]

To some extent I agree. The PS3 was released a year after the XBox 360 and had a significantly higher price. I think a lot of the reason PS3 sales can be viewed as a success despite these limitations is because it came with a BluRay drive and HDMI output, not purely gaming related.

Yes, but it was back when you couldn't easily purchase a blu-ray player. Now you can get them relatively cheap. Initial 360 units (mine) didn't have the HDMI, but most did.

[goof2]

Definitely, at the time it was released the PS3 was one of the most capable BluRay players available and a similar or lower price than other stand-alone players on the market. Instead of just being purely focused on gaming it was a high end "entertainment" machine. People were willing to pay a premium for that at the time. After 5 or 6 years I rarely play games on mine anymore but I still use it almost daily, and it is the only source I have ever used, for BluRay and Netflix.

[Trip]

Yes, but it was back when you couldn't easily purchase a blu-ray player. Now you can get them relatively cheap. Initial 360 units (mine) didn't have the HDMI, but most did.

I had a launch 360, bought it at best buy when I worked there and got the 2 year replacement plan for basically nothing on the employee discount. When the hdmi versions came out I put mine in the microwave without the hard drive and got a new one for free. LOL

[Porkchop]

I had a launch 360, bought it at best buy when I worked there and got the 2 year replacement plan for basically nothing on the employee discount. When the hdmi versions came out I put mine in the microwave without the hard drive and got a new one for free. LOL

No shit? :lol

[Rangerscott]

New version of your favorite device came out, what do you do? Microwave that shit.

[Dave]

never got why people bitched about $600 when the ps3 brought features and capacity the 360 couldnt touch and would have strayed into four figures to equal

[Rangerscott]

A problem I have with the ps3 is how everyone talked about how powerful it was and its got 8 cores and blah blah but when you look at graphic comparisons of the consoles, the 360 usually always pulls ahead. Then you have the saying that developers dont want to spend the time using its hardware. Then why make something more powerful when developers are just going to port everything?

FYI, I own a ps3/360/PC

[Particle Man]

I still have just a PS2 :lol:

[fatbuckRTO]

I still have just a PS2 :lol:

I had two. They were both stolen. Still miss some of those PS2 games.

[Homeslice]

I had a launch 360, bought it at best buy when I worked there and got the 2 year replacement plan for basically nothing on the employee discount. When the hdmi versions came out I put mine in the microwave without the hard drive and got a new one for free. LOL

nice :rolleyes:

[Tmall]

I'm really not liking what Microsoft is trying to sell me. I may switch to Sony, I may just use my PC. But, I really do not think I will buy an Xbox One.

The fact that I need to have Kinect hooked up and running at all times is reason enough to not buy.

[Trip]

No shit? :lol

Yeah, I worked at Best Buy long enough to know how to scam that replacement plan system because they scam the fuck out of people with it all the time. If you know there is a good likelihood that a new version could possibly replace the old version within plan's life, It's a good system to work if the price of the plan is not that bad. They have gotten better about spotting deliberate damage, but you can still pull it on them pretty easily. They aren't like Microsoft who will just send you a refurbished version of what you sent them if you go through warranty, they will give you a new one from their stock. They will usually give you dollar for dollar what you invested, so if you want a higher priced one, you have to cough out the remaining cash on it though.

[Trip]

I'm really not liking what Microsoft is trying to sell me. I may switch to Sony, I may just use my PC. But, I really do not think I will buy an Xbox One.

The fact that I need to have Kinect hooked up and running at all times is reason enough to not buy.

I have liked Microsoft since the xbox came out, I want nothing to do with them since they are going to a must be connected to the net to play single player games and pay for usage of used games/can't play games friends bring over. Shit just isn't right.

I probably won't go PS4, I think I will just stick to steam.

[LeeNetworX]

I still have just a PS2 :lol:

Same here. Haven't touched it in years. The Wii and NES sits unused as well.

[njchopper87]

Apparently Sony also has a system to track used games as well. Supposedly they're taking a hint from the feedback MS is getting and shelving it. They didn't mention an always connected machine, but I guess it would have to be to track the games. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[Rangerscott]

If the kinect needs to be connected 24/7 then M$ can track my dick with it.

Its gonna sale, just like any other item out there. Millions will bitch about a product, but yet they still buy it.

[Trip]

If the kinect needs to be connected 24/7 then M$ can track my dick with it.

Its gonna sale, just like any other item out there. Millions will bitch about a product, but yet they still buy it.

Oh no doubt it will sell, but it won't get me lined up to preorder or buy it early. I take my 360 with me on the road sometimes and I don't need this always connected bullshit.

[Rangerscott]

Did u ever make a lappy 360?

[fatbuckRTO]

Funny thing about the GIF...Half of the shit isn't even Officially Known yet. It's all speculation.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-clarifies-always-used-games-fees-more-xbox-164007137.html

[Rangerscott]

Fuck that. Im done with consoles.

[Sixxxxer]

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-clarifies-always-used-games-fees-more-xbox-164007137.html

So one thing that everyone had there panties in a bunch is actually somewhat true...And in what world do we live in where you don't have a 24/7 internet connection? Having it "Check" In everyday wont hinder me at all...My current 360 is always connected to the internet currently.

Used games...I dont really buy used games...To the people that do...Def sucks but shit happens and

I dont share games with anyone either...With the power of the internet I play the games with my friends who also bought the game. Thats what Xbox Live is for? I seriously have maybe shared one game with my buddy over the course of ten years of playing my xbox.

All these issues are just people nitpicking it apart because People just like to bitch.

[Rangerscott]

Small town people that get price gouged for shitty dsl. Also people that travel with their consoles.

[Trip]

So one thing that everyone had there panties in a bunch is actually somewhat true...And in what world do we live in where you don't have a 24/7 internet connection? Having it "Check" In everyday wont hinder me at all...My current 360 is always connected to the internet currently.

Used games...I dont really buy used games...To the people that do...Def sucks but shit happens and

I dont share games with anyone either...With the power of the internet I play the games with my friends who also bought the game. Thats what Xbox Live is for? I seriously have maybe shared one game with my buddy over the course of ten years of playing my xbox.

All these issues are just people nitpicking it apart because People just like to bitch.

Lots of people still don't have internet. A lot of people don't live in cities or have access to broadband. It's a stupid thing to do to cut an entire group of people out of even being able to play the system.

I also bring my 360 on work trips and a lot of hotels I stay in either have shit internet, paid internet, and sometimes no internet at all. I am also not a fan of connecting my system to it cause people can easily hack those hotel wireless systems. I liked Microsoft and may have gotten a One, but this pretty much is the death blow for me and I definitely won't get one.

[Archren]

Lots of people still don't have internet. A lot of people don't live in cities or have access to broadband. It's a stupid thing to do to cut an entire group of people out of even being able to play the system.

I also bring my 360 on work trips and a lot of hotels I stay in either have shit internet, paid internet, and sometimes no internet at all. I am also not a fan of connecting my system to it cause people can easily hack those hotel wireless systems. I liked Microsoft and may have gotten a One, but this pretty much is the death blow for me and I definitely won't get one.

Agreed. I took my original 360 with me to Iraq, was nice to be able to play during down time. Internet out there was like glorified dial-up, so having a constant internet connection was not exactly a reliable gig (sand storms take out satellite connectivity on a regular basis), assuming you were fortunate to have internet in your living area at all. If you're stationed at a FOB, odds are there isn't (non-government) internet except if there's an MWR tent, and bandwidth isn't great.. I'll stick to the 360 for now, particularly if I have to go downrange again.

[fatbuckRTO]

There's also the matter of graphics. Just based on the game previews shown already, they haven't made any progress. Not a big deal for their new target demographic, people who don't really care much for gaming. But for those of us who look forward to new game capabilities and fresher looks (you know, the people who have made gaming consoles successful for the last 25 years), it's kind of a big "fuck you."

Enter the "just get a gaming PC" crowd. No. I don't like to fuck around with PC games, or gaming PC's. I like console games. I've contributed to the success of console games for decades. But now console makers have decided they don't care for my business. That's fine, doesn't really hurt me any and probably won't hurt them, but they can go fuck themselves all the same.

[EpyonXero]

I dont really see the issue with 24/7 Connectivity. If you have internet what does it matter?

Blah Blah Blah...You not buying it won't hurt there wallets any.

Tell that to anyone who tried to play the new Sim City for the first month it was out. Its no big deal when everything works but thats not always the case and then your console becomes a $400-500 paperweight.

Definitely, at the time it was released the PS3 was one of the most capable BluRay players available and a similar or lower price than other stand-alone players on the market. Instead of just being purely focused on gaming it was a high end "entertainment" machine. People were willing to pay a premium for that at the time. After 5 or 6 years I rarely play games on mine anymore but I still use it almost daily, and it is the only source I have ever used, for BluRay and Netflix.

PS3 is probably the best Netflix device out there and one of the best BluRay and Media Center devices. I rarely play console games these days but I use it every day for media streaming from my iMac. Ill probably get a PS4 although the new Kinect sounds like it might be very cool.

[Porkchop]

This is my go to site for phones, but they've been doing some console news recently. This is pretty interesting leaving it up to Devs to decide...

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/07/xbox-one-used-games-details-confirmed/

[Trip]

PS3 is probably the best Netflix device out there and one of the best BluRay and Media Center devices. I rarely play console games these days but I use it every day for media streaming from my iMac. Ill probably get a PS4 although the new Kinect sounds like it might be very cool.

Not even close, I wouldn't even put it in the top 5, dollar for dollar, something like a Roku or even an Apple TV if you are an Apple person will be a much much much much better Netflix device for an average user, especially a non gamer. Better multimedia customization and availability, not to mention integration with other devices. Just simply better.

[Rangerscott]

Ill make my own damn console and games.

[LeeNetworX]

Netflix worked great on my Boxee, when I still had Netflix.

[fatbuckRTO]

All for a scant $500.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/xbox-one-launch-november-499-halo-coming-next-190524405.html

[Rangerscott]

Also you buy the console and youre not allowed to mod it. Youre just renting.

[njchopper87]

All that for $500, huh? I'll raise you a one game bundle from gamestop for $560. They also have a killer deal for 3 EA sport titles at $680.

[Sixxxxer]

Lots of people still don't have internet. A lot of people don't live in cities or have access to broadband. It's a stupid thing to do to cut an entire group of people out of even being able to play the system.

I also bring my 360 on work trips and a lot of hotels I stay in either have shit internet, paid internet, and sometimes no internet at all. I am also not a fan of connecting my system to it cause people can easily hack those hotel wireless systems. I liked Microsoft and may have gotten a One, but this pretty much is the death blow for me and I definitely won't get one.

I think Microsoft made it pretty clear they werent going after the average gamers...

Nothing shocking to me.

Even at 500 it will still sell...It's just the nature of the beast.

[Rangerscott]

Does it download porn at least? Alos do I have to pay a fee if the porn has been viewed by someone else? Will there be a gold membership to the porn and if so, what is the cost? Now will the new kinect recognize when Im masturbating so it can recommend me more porn to "extend" my Xbox 1 experience? Is there a fee if a friend brings his/her porn over and uses my xbox uno?

I hope the workers of M$ get to see the porn Im viewing because I dont like to jerk it alone.

[fatbuckRTO]

<X-box pr0n diatribe>:lol

[Trip]

I think Microsoft made it pretty clear they werent going after the average gamers...

Nothing shocking to me.

Even at 500 it will still sell...It's just the nature of the beast.

With what is happening in the game world they need more than just hardcore gamers. Nintendo fell, Microsoft can be the next gaming giant to learn that lesson. That is also the nature of the beast.

You can't just play to one group and microsoft hasn't done this in the past. That's what helped them get on top. They are either going to learn that lesson or get a massive hit to their sales. They have more consoles in US homes right now than anyone else. The way they have angered everyone but hardcore Microsoft only gaming titles, it's going to make a massive dent and could cost them the title of being the king of consoles in the USA. Hardcore Microsoft only gamers don't make up a large percentage of their total sales, those gamers are the ones that get things going, but they don't bring in the money consistently year after year. It's the average people that they have to have to keep sales going once you get past launch. If they think they can anger those people and do fine, it's going to be a rough next generation for them.

[Porkchop]

Oh my fucking god... I literally could not stop laughing. This is one big giant "in your face" from PS. :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKdBecUSGP0

[fatbuckRTO]

Oh my fucking god... I literally could not stop laughing. This is one big giant "in your face" from PS. :lol


:lol

[LeeNetworX]

http://i.eatliver.com/2013/10757.jpg

[fatbuckRTO]

Lots of people still don't have internet. A lot of people don't live in cities or have access to broadband. It's a stupid thing to do to cut an entire group of people out of even being able to play the system.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/microsoft-gamers-no-internet-buy-360-172308528.html

"We have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity - it's called Xbox 360," Don Mattrick told Geoff Keighley on GameTrailers.

[Rangerscott]

"Hopefully people will look past price. Its not about money, its about value."

Damn. Straight out saying how its fun to be rich from people willing to pay anything.

Its already $60 for a 6 hour game. Value, yea its sprinkled with. value.

[Porkchop]

Value... yeah value as the other media components that I already have in my house. The hubris of the company is astounding. They have become the "Apple" of the console world. I hope this system dies in a big fucking ball of fire.

[Tmall]

Call up and cancel your auto renewals and have them remove your credit card info from your account. I did it the other day.

It's not much, but it's at least a bit of a message.

[fatbuckRTO]

Not that I care much about indie games, but here goes Microsoft digging themselves deeper:

http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-xbox-one-indie-games-policy-baffles-developer-233036169.html

[Rangerscott]

M$ isnt worried. All tyey need is one COD game and millions of consoles are sold.

Ive been getting into indie gakes. Bought that hovering pistol game on steam and need to download it. Its physics related or something.

[goof2]

M$ isnt worried. All tyey need is one COD game and millions of consoles are sold.

Ive been getting into indie gakes. Bought that hovering pistol game on steam and need to download it. Its physics related or something.

I don't think COD would get it done since that series is not proprietary to xbox. I suspect the next COD release will drive sales of millions of consoles, but they can just as easily be, and currently seems more likely to be, PS4s. MS needs an xbox only game (Halo, Forza?) to reach "must have" status quickly to drive xbox console sales.

[Porkchop]

I don't think COD would get it done since that series is not proprietary to xbox. I suspect the next COD release will drive sales of millions of consoles, but they can just as easily be, and currently seems more likely to be, PS4s. MS needs an xbox only game (Halo, Forza?) to reach "must have" status quickly to drive xbox console sales.

Halo 5 was announced at E3. But that shit is :deadhorse: :beath: than a monther effer.

[njchopper87]

Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update


It took them a little bit, but they finally reversed their decision.

[Porkchop]

Thank freaking Jesus.... I didn't want to be a PS fan!!!! :lol:

[OneSickPsycho]

Wow... nice to see they're paying attention...

[LeeNetworX]

http://i.imgur.com/JZOCnud.png

[Sixxxxer]

That's great!

[Rangerscott]

So what are X1's hit titles coming out? I saw the new killzone and I want it.

[fatbuckRTO]

That's great!

Agreed.

I may be looking forward to Halo 5 now. If I can ever afford the machine...

[Amorok]

See, the system can wor. What I don't understand is they already have a lot of this locked down. For example, wanna go back and play an old PS2 or now PS3 game on your PS4? Online download and license fee. That's why Sony didn't need to be the Great Evil like Microshaft tried to be. There is already a strong online market, especially from people who just lie to download games direct instead of buying them from a store on physical media/ Eventually what the Xbox one was supposed to be will be the new norm, they just got greedy and tried to rush the issue. Just like the RIAA who still wants you to pay through the nose for a CD even though nobody buys them anymore.