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fnfalman
08-25-2008, 10:01 AM
I've seen a lot of crash aftermaths but I've never seen anybody crash on the street before. Usually they've crashed and I would come upon them but I finally busted my cherry on that issue.

I took two guys from work riding this Saturday and after we've done with the twisties, getting ready to head home via the freeway, a group of three came up: 1 enduro (Honda?) and two Harleys. One of the Harley boys challenged my guy with the Street Rod for a drag and my guy was sensible enough to laugh it off and went on his merry way along with his riding partner. Well, I should have known better but I didn't. Not to mention that the Austrian Orange tends to make me behave naughtily.

So all four of us had a little drag race going. I gave'em all a head start just to make things interesting and as I passed Harley #1 tailing the pack and approaching Harley #2 with the Honda enduro leading the way, suddenly guy on Harley #2 decided to stomp on the rear brake and locked it up then let the brake out. The bike proceeded to high side threw him off to the left while it tumbled maybe three times to the right. I saw in slow motion the guy flying off to the left spread eagle and said to myself, "This is gonna be ugly." The guy had a chrome dome on, wifebeater, jeans and tennis shoes. Since that he was heading to the pavement face down, I expected the worst to happen, but amazingly enough he hit the pavement, bounced up and started rolling without his head even touching the ground. One of his shoes flew up about twenty feet in the air. I jammed on my brakes and trusted in the ABS, hoping to keep myself from running over his ass.

The enduro guy stopped, I stopped, but his other buddy on Harley #1 kept on going passed all of us. I looked in the mirror and amazingly enough, the guy popped up and started hobbling while the enduro guy ran back to prop up the bike. Since that he was up and running without anything broken, and the enduro guy had everything well in hand, I took off as well.

I'm sure that something significant must have broken off because you don't tumble a 800-lbs bike without bad things happening to the bike. But the guy seemed to have gotten away without much blood loss and serious wounding. I hope that he learned from his lesson and put on some proper gears next time.

marko138
08-25-2008, 10:12 AM
Wow. Although I'm sure he did not learn anything and would not hesitate to do the same thing again.

Shift
08-25-2008, 10:12 AM
I hope that he learned from his lesson and put on some proper gears next time.

Perhaps he's not the only one who should have learned a lesson. :whistle:

Street racing is bad mmk.

Rider
08-25-2008, 10:26 AM
Why the hell would the guy lock up his rear brake? :idk:

MikeSP1
08-25-2008, 10:33 AM
Why the hell would the guy lock up his rear brake? :idk:

Did you leave without actually atopping to make sure that the guy was ok? Other than just seeing that he could hobble around.

Gunther1000
08-25-2008, 10:37 AM
Why the hell would the guy lock up his rear brake? :idk:

Lol, I wonder if he forgot which was the shifter and which was the rear brake!

Why on earth would any sane person do this?

fnfalman
08-25-2008, 10:51 AM
Perhaps he's not the only one who should have learned a lesson. :whistle:

Street racing is bad mmk.

Bah! As long as there are no innocent bystanders around, and all participants know the risks involved, it's all for fun...until somebody gets hurt.

Why the hell would the guy lock up his rear brake? :idk:

I have no idea. He locked up the rear brake, the bike slid and he let the brake go, the traction caught and threw his ass off the bike.

Did you leave without actually atopping to make sure that the guy was ok? Other than just seeing that he could hobble around.

He wasn't my buddy. Hate to sound like an asshole, but the guy popped up and hobbled around while the Honda enduro guy stopped and propped up the bike. He seemed to be OK. If he were squirming on the ground, I would have hopped off and went to help.

Shift
08-25-2008, 11:00 AM
Sorry but thats a very hypocrite attitude to rag on the guy for not wearing gear but its ok for you to be squidly and street race. And obviously they DONT know the risk involved (they think they are impervious to going down) or they would have gear on. So for you to help contribute to their reckless driving is a shame on you. Not saying your a bad guy just think you made a bad decision.

:welcome3:

Gunther1000
08-25-2008, 11:19 AM
Sorry but thats a very hypocrite attitude to rag on the guy for not wearing gear but its ok for you to be squidly and street race. And obviously they DONT know the risk involved (they think they are impervious to going down) or they would have gear on. So for you to help contribute to their reckless driving is a shame on you. Not saying your a bad guy just think you made a bad decision.

:welcome3:

Shift, I bet you go to church don't you?

Maybe we should all join hands and just pray for the stupid, non gearing street racing folks huh?

NONE_too_SOFT
08-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Why the hell would the guy lock up his rear brake? :idk:

cause he's gay and has no idea what he's doing.


He wasn't my buddy. Hate to sound like an asshole, but the guy popped up and hobbled around while the Honda enduro guy stopped and propped up the bike. He seemed to be OK. If he were squirming on the ground, I would have hopped off and went to help.

Yea, well if i spanked some guys in a race and then one of em crashed, im not sure i'd stick around to gloat either.

Sorry but thats a very hypocrite attitude to rag on the guy for not wearing gear but its ok for you to be squidly and street race. And obviously they DONT know the risk involved (they think they are impervious to going down) or they would have gear on. So for you to help contribute to their reckless driving is a shame on you. Not saying your a bad guy just think you made a bad decision.

:welcome3:

with great power comes great responsibility, lol.

fnfalman
08-25-2008, 02:02 PM
Sorry but thats a very hypocrite attitude to rag on the guy for not wearing gear but its ok for you to be squidly and street race. And obviously they DONT know the risk involved (they think they are impervious to going down) or they would have gear on. So for you to help contribute to their reckless driving is a shame on you. Not saying your a bad guy just think you made a bad decision.

:welcome3:

I made a bad decision for myself. I didn't make a bad decision for them. I didn't put a gun to their heads and make them drag race. I didn't put a gun to their heads and make them proposition me for a drag race.:idk:

6doublefive321
08-25-2008, 03:01 PM
I made a bad decision for myself. I didn't make a bad decision for them. I didn't put a gun to their heads and make them drag race. I didn't put a gun to their heads and make them proposition me for a drag race.:idk:

Right on, brother. If some joker shit piles his bike or car racing, I have no sympathy. I also don't expect any if I am the shit pilee. That's the way the world works.

Should we be racing or speeding? Absolutely not. Anyone who has never street raced or went 20 over the speed limit please raise their hand.

marko138
08-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Right on, brother. If some joker shit piles his bike or car racing, I have no sympathy. I also don't expect any if I am the shit pilee. That's the way the world works.

Should we be racing or speeding? Absolutely not. Anyone who has never street raced or went 20 over the speed limit please raise their hand.
Never street raced. 20 over...no comment.

Amber Lamps
08-25-2008, 04:15 PM
Right on, brother. If some joker shit piles his bike or car racing, I have no sympathy. I also don't expect any if I am the shit pilee. That's the way the world works.

Should we be racing or speeding? Absolutely not. Anyone who has never street raced or went 20 over the speed limit please raise their hand.

I used to street race every weekend but not anymore and I always speed!

JoJoYZF
08-25-2008, 04:44 PM
Never street raced. 20 over...no comment.

Same and same

smileyman
08-25-2008, 04:51 PM
I go to church and street race, hiway race, track race and sometimes I cuss...BUT I am forgiven!:whistle:

Gas Man
08-25-2008, 04:55 PM
Yeah I have saw quite a few crashes... always could see them coming... low sides and such.

As far as lockingup the rear... I'm not sure why he would do that, but I also don't get why it high sided due to it...

Carolina
08-25-2008, 05:08 PM
I only saw one crash and it was my brother. We took a curve and he caught some sand and low sided. Luckily we were going a moderate pace and he slid into a yard with grass and the bike made it out ok. My heart was racing like a mutha since it was my little bro. That shit scared me so bad I almost forgot to put my kickstand down on my dismount. We picked that hoe up inspected bike,inspected him and off to riding the rest of the afternoon.

Gunther1000
08-25-2008, 05:08 PM
Seems logical if the rear slid and he got sideways a touch then let off it and speed up and over. Draging his hard parts or lifting the rear tire from doing so then letting it catch would bring that on pretty easily right?

Amber Lamps
08-25-2008, 06:08 PM
Yeah I have saw quite a few crashes... always could see them coming... low sides and such.

As far as lockingup the rear... I'm not sure why he would do that, but I also don't get why it high sided due to it...


I'm thinking similar thoughts... if I was guessing,I'd say that he had a mechanical failure of some kind which locked up his rear tire. BTW braking and letting off can not cause a classic high side. However, he may have had the rear lock up,went side ways and "stuck" thus causing a high side like toss of his person.

Gas Man
08-25-2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah I'm saying.. lock up rear, keep it straight let off the rear brake... won't equal high side... there would have to be some side to side motion... IMO

fnfalman
08-25-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm thinking similar thoughts... if I was guessing,I'd say that he had a mechanical failure of some kind which locked up his rear tire. BTW braking and letting off can not cause a classic high side. However, he may have had the rear lock up,went side ways and "stuck" thus causing a high side like toss of his person.

I think that's what happened but it was a weird highside though because the bike didn't tossing him up too far or otherwise he would have been really fucked. It's more like tossing him horizontally to the left and the bike tumbled to the right.

t-homo
08-25-2008, 07:51 PM
Aren't you supposed to keep the back locked if you accidentally lock it? I had an "OH SHIT" second guess myself moment about a week ago and locked it and just kept it and kinda slid sideways through the corner.

Carolina
08-25-2008, 07:57 PM
Aren't you supposed to keep the back locked if you accidentally lock it? I had an "OH SHIT" second guess myself moment about a week ago and locked it and just kept it and kinda slid sideways through the corner.

:skep::draggin:


righhhhttttttt

naw good save glad ya didn't lose it

t-homo
08-25-2008, 08:04 PM
:skep::draggin:


righhhhttttttt

naw good save glad ya didn't lose it

I didn't say I slid well and kept my line. Just that I slid and made it through.

Carolina
08-25-2008, 08:19 PM
I'm just glad you didn't get bit. Shit i'm just hatin because u upgraded and i'm still stuck with my lil whore.

fuckin insurance two tickets and i only have 2 points left. the crazy thing was they were all in my expedition. I was doing 25 over and 20 on the other though so they took like 6pts on one and 4 for the other.

t-homo
08-25-2008, 08:22 PM
I have gotten two tickets. One for 19 over and one for 14 over. First one, I paid 175 for instead of 80 and he moved it to a 1 over=no points. Second one, I got a lawyer and he moved it from a 14 over to 4 over, paid the regular ticket amount, and the lawyer was my 6th grade basketball coach and didn't charge me anything=no points. I got pulled over last Tuesday though. Cop moved it down from a 16 over to a 10 over. I think I will just pay that one regular.

Amber Lamps
08-25-2008, 09:32 PM
I'm just glad you didn't get bit. Shit i'm just hatin because u upgraded and i'm still stuck with my lil whore.

fuckin insurance two tickets and i only have 2 points left. the crazy thing was they were all in my expedition. I was doing 25 over and 20 on the other though so they took like 6pts on one and 4 for the other.

I like the GSF! I knew this girl with one that she painted pink and black like a good and plenty!:whistle:

BTW you're down here,do you have a bunch of jacked up cars with 26/28" rims that have product placement on them? You know like one is Aquafina,one is Ritz Crackers,Doritos,Magnum Condoms (I kinda like that one),etc. It's kinda cool but weird,you know?

itgirl
08-25-2008, 09:52 PM
He wasn't my buddy. Hate to sound like an asshole, but the guy popped up and hobbled around while the Honda enduro guy stopped and propped up the bike. He seemed to be OK. If he were squirming on the ground, I would have hopped off and went to help.

wow. i thought we were all brothers and sisters on two wheels, whether we know eachother personally or not. i woulda stopped to see if he was okay, whether he was squirming or not. i thought that's what bikers do. i am kinda disappointed.

Amber Lamps
08-25-2008, 10:15 PM
wow. i thought we were all brothers and sisters on two wheels, whether we know eachother personally or not. i woulda stopped to see if he was okay, whether he was squirming or not. i thought that's what bikers do. i am kinda disappointed.


Yep it's official...fnfalman is HUMAN! In a way you have to see his side,if he had stopped and waited for the cops/ambulance with this guy. It may have surfaced that they were racing and then he could have faced some serious crap. I agree that you should always stop but I can understand why he didn't.

NONE_too_SOFT
08-25-2008, 10:18 PM
wow. i thought we were all brothers and sisters on two wheels, whether we know eachother personally or not. i woulda stopped to see if he was okay, whether he was squirming or not. i thought that's what bikers do. i am kinda disappointed.

whats he gonna do kim, he's not jesus, he's not gonna heal his road rash. He said he made sure the guy was up and moving around. whats stopping gonna do except possibly cause more harm.

JoJoYZF
08-25-2008, 10:35 PM
whats he gonna do kim, he's not jesus, he's not gonna heal his road rash. He said he made sure the guy was up and moving around. whats stopping gonna do except possibly cause more harm.

Very good point. And like he said, he woulda stopped if the guy was still on the ground and everything, but if hes up and going, theres nothing more that he could have done.

Gunther1000
08-25-2008, 11:11 PM
I'm thinking similar thoughts... if I was guessing,I'd say that he had a mechanical failure of some kind which locked up his rear tire. BTW braking and letting off can not cause a classic high side. However, he may have had the rear lock up,went side ways and "stuck" thus causing a high side like toss of his person.

Ya, what he said.

fnfalman
08-26-2008, 09:12 AM
I did stop for another motorcyclist on Sunday, but he didn't crash. It sounded like his spark plugs were done for (very old Yami cruiser) and he was creeping along the shoulder of the carpool lane. So I ran interference and blocked traffic for him while he was moving all the way across the four lanes freeway to get to the exit. Talk about hairy shits with the fucking cagers honking at you. I was about to kick one bastard's door in as he scraped by us.

But, sorry, itgirl, I don't have much sympathy for dumbasses who raced on the street (myself included), and who especially didn't have no damn gears on. Like I said, if the guy had been all fucked up I would have stopped but he was already up and hobbling about without much bleeding or broken anything and his own riding buddy stopped (too bad the other riding buddy didn't) to help him out.

z06boy
08-26-2008, 10:09 AM
He was up and moving around PLUS his own riding buddy stopped to assist him as well so I can see why the op didn't stop... especially since he was playing around/racing or whatever. Too many things could have come up...the guys have an attitude with the sportbiker...somehow blaming the op for his own f*ck up...possibly a witness stopping along with a LEO and able to identify both as racing...blah...blah...blah...:idk:

smileyman
08-26-2008, 12:08 PM
Keep to the code!!! If a pirate falls behind, leave him! Well that is that pirate code...I think i woulda stopped and checked him and tried to scramble before any complications arose...Sure not gonna stay and sing Kum ba ya...

He had a buddy there for his transport and comfort, i am sure FN woulda done the right thing if it was a medical emergency....

marko138
08-26-2008, 12:22 PM
The Pirate Code. :lol:

DLIT
08-26-2008, 01:35 PM
First thing I woulda done is ask why the hell he locked the back up.

Gunther1000
08-26-2008, 02:13 PM
Ya know, Maybe his chain broke?:idk:

Amber Lamps
08-26-2008, 05:41 PM
Ya know, Maybe his chain broke?:idk:

Dude I owned a Sportster,the list of things that could have caused the rear wheel to lock up is LONG!:pat:

pickle.of.doom
08-26-2008, 06:32 PM
Probably just bigfooted it while shifting himself around on the bike and stomped it on accident. I know I have made accidental shifts before, thats always good for crackin open walnuts with your asscheeks.

Dnyce
08-28-2008, 12:07 AM
i know of an instance where a guy stopped to help a downed rider, and when the cops came they arrested his ass cuz they thought they were racing.

Amber Lamps
08-28-2008, 10:21 PM
i know of an instance where a guy stopped to help a downed rider, and when the cops came they arrested his ass cuz they thought they were racing.

Yea I had a buddy crash on a ride and we waited for the cops and the cop wrote us all reckless tickets (about 10 of them),we won in court but it was a PITA!!!

Gunther1000
08-29-2008, 02:04 PM
Wow gotta love COPS... :plzdie: