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zortness
02-29-2008, 01:46 PM
Many people have asked me why I think that everyone who rides should do track days. Not everyone has the intention of riding fast, or aspirations of racing, but there are huge benefits to practicing on the race track. Here's some short explanations.

Increasing your Margin of Error: This is pretty easy to explain. The faster you are capable of completing a task, such as making a turn, the more margin for error you will have while doing it at a slower pace. Imagine a spirited ride through some new twisties, when you suddenly come up on a sharper corner than you were expecting. Because you are only riding at 60% of your ability, you simply focus and lean the bike over to make the turn, using maybe 80% of your abilities.

Avoiding Panic: This builds on increasing your margin of error. The more margin you have, the less likely you are to panic. Panicking and making sudden movements can lead to loss of stability with the bike and ultimately a bad wreck.

Error Recovery: Everyone makes mistakes, even Valentino Rossi. Practicing on a track helps you to catch mistakes earlier and more quickly, giving you more time and more practice at correcting them. Many times I will see people in the lower levels on the track panic, stand up their bikes, and run off into the dirt in a turn that they could have easily made at the speed they were going, but their confidence and lack of experience caused them to make that decision. By practicing error recovery and learning more about your abilities and your bike's abilities, you can avoid potentially dangerous runoffs on in street situations, because there may just be oncoming traffic in your way next time.

Your Internal Tiltmeter: Everyone has an internal tilt-meter that tells them when the bike is leaned over too far. The problem is, your tilt-meter may tell you that the bike is incapable of more, when in reality is has much more in reserve. Your tilt-meter naturally expands as you learn more about your bike on the track. By expanding your tilt-meter, you gain confidence, and increase your margin for error.

Riding Style: Good riding style is imperative to safe riding. By learning the correct body position from instructors or more experienced riders, you will feel more comfortable on your bike, gain endurance, and gain confidence. Body position and style are not something that you can perfect overnight, many professional racers continually adapt and adjust their styles throughout their entire careers. The better your riding style becomes, the more comfortable you will feel on your bike. The more comfortable you feel, the less you will fight the bike's controls, causing a smoother, more enjoyable, and ultimately safer ride.

Learning Your Bike: Modern sportbikes are tremendous pieces of technology capable of amazing feats. Modern engines, brakes, and tires are far better than most riders will ever be capable of using completely. As you become more comfortable on your bike, you will better learn the potential of your bike and it's individual characteristics.

Focusing: It can often be difficult to relax and focus while riding on the street. There are distractions and dangers every step of the way. This prevents many riders from taking the time to learn good riding habits, and instead they pick up bad ones. The track is a safe environment, free of cars and other dangerous obstacles that allows the rider to focus on riding and improving skills.



The Usual Excuses: The two excuses that I hear the most are both related to money.

I don't have the gear or The gear costs too much. Yes, buying the gear is expensive, but this is, for the most part, a non-recurring cost. Once you have it, you have it. Honestly, I don't understand this one though. Every rider will crash at some point, that's just statistics. How much is your skin worth? I do not feel safe riding without full equipment. In my opinion, if you could not afford the gear, you should not have purchased the bike, and I wish dealerships would push the gear more. In Europe, riders are required to wear full leathers at all times, not necessarily the best solution, but it's a solution.

Track days are too expensive. It is true, track days are expensive, and the price keeps going up. I argue that the skills you will learn in one track day could save your life on the streets. Of the reasons mentioned above, at least one should register with you if you've ridden for any length of time.


If you are interested in doing a track day, and curious about what your first day will be like, I suggest reading this guide (http://www.foreven.com/trackdod/NoviceGuide/), taken from the TrackDoD novice riders school. It lets you know what to expect, what to work on, and expands on some of the points I made.


post credit (http://www.702sportbikes.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12451)

OTB
02-29-2008, 01:57 PM
...another great benefit is the phenomenon of "slowing". If you spend a period of time at higher speeds, you begin the process of looking out further ahead. This is a natural process that your brain develops to cope with the higher closing speeds; your eyes focus further out....this gives your brain time to process more info. If you habituate your brain and eyes into focusing further out you will have the abitity to see and avoid a lot of the stuff that catches newer riders unawares in the first place.

Much of your brain is busy processing info that you may not even consciously be aware of (it is the basis of the whole concept of the subconscious mind). The further out you push you focus, the more information available for your considerable head computer to work on.....giving you more cues to help avoid the obstacles out there.

Track time and racing improves your riding.


...and it's fun.....:drool:

raven_hammer
02-29-2008, 02:02 PM
The question is why not do a trackday

05svr650
02-29-2008, 02:15 PM
Great read.!

I will be doing my first track day with STT in April at the Nashville Super Speedway.

There will be a bunch of my friends there, much who will be faster that I, yet so much to learn from them.

marko138
02-29-2008, 02:16 PM
The question is why not do a trackday

Exactly. You can't have more fun on a motorcycle than being at the track. :rockwoot:

Cutty72
02-29-2008, 02:23 PM
Great post...
Hope to hit my first one this season... time permitting

marko138
02-29-2008, 02:24 PM
Great post...
Hope to hit my first one this season... time permitting

On a Buell?

Cutty72
02-29-2008, 02:27 PM
On a Buell?

or the SV... or both :wink:

marko138
02-29-2008, 02:28 PM
or the SV... or both :wink:

Now we're talking. You should do an Inside Pass trackday w/ Buell. They're fun.

Cutty72
02-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Now we're talking. You should do an Inside Pass trackday w/ Buell. They're fun.

and where would i find info on such an event??

marko138
02-29-2008, 02:35 PM
and where would i find info on such an event??

Buell.com


I'm gonna try to do the one at NJ Motorsports Park this year.

Cutty72
02-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Road America is the closest... and still 560 miles away.

marko138
02-29-2008, 02:54 PM
Road America is the closest... and still 560 miles away.

Damn. Thats a haul.

Cutty72
02-29-2008, 03:01 PM
Damn. Thats a haul.

Yup... that's the shitty part of living in ND...
One "close" track, Brainerd International Raceway... 140 miles away.
Nest closest is MAM, and that's 440 miles.

well, that and a lot of straight flat regular roads... :cry:

Trip
02-29-2008, 05:00 PM
At least you can practice your wheelie abilities.:rockwoot:

Cutty72
03-01-2008, 12:01 AM
At least you can practice your wheelie abilities.:rockwoot:

truf...

FYI... a 250 ninja will wheelie.

fpzx10
03-01-2008, 12:08 AM
I've only done one. I sucked at it. But all I can think about is getting back on the track.

I've got friends trying to get me interested in other things, but I tell them that I have an obsession and can't afford another one.

I'm met guys online that have quit riding on the streets and just do trackdays. I never understood it til I got out there.

Cutty72
03-01-2008, 04:24 AM
ok... saying this as i have never been on the track

but...

i don't think i would ever give up street riding, for the sheer economics of it...
i mean 40 mpg vs 15 mpg... and way more fun... tough call.

i CAN see how once you've ridden the track, the street becomes less fun however...

azoomm
03-01-2008, 09:14 AM
ok... saying this as i have never been on the track

but...

i don't think i would ever give up street riding, for the sheer economics of it...
i mean 40 mpg vs 15 mpg... and way more fun... tough call.

i CAN see how once you've ridden the track, the street becomes less fun however...

I said that too. Now, I have two track bikes and nothing for the street except my car. I think it just depends on how much time you can afford out there. But, imho trackdays are still cheaper all around than law enforcement awards and a crash on the street.

fpzx10
03-01-2008, 09:41 AM
I said that too. Now, I have two track bikes and nothing for the street except my car. I think it just depends on how much time you can afford out there. But, imho trackdays are still cheaper all around than law enforcement awards and a crash on the street.

She speaketh the truth

zortness
03-01-2008, 04:43 PM
All the good places to ride on the streets around Vegas are federal, that means huge tickets. Plus, I saw a lot of accidents and some deaths out there. I hadn't ridden on the street in over a year when I borrowed my roomate's bike to go on a group ride a month or so ago. I hated it, I don't miss riding on the street at all. The track is just so much more fun and so much safer. I know a lot of people who commute on their bikes and can't give it up, but I wouldn't do it, I hate the drivers here.

Carolina
03-03-2008, 08:01 PM
GREAT INFO i MAY HAVE TO PRINT THIS AND TAKE IT AND SHOW THE GUYS AT WORK i BEEN TRYING TO TALK EVERYONE OUT OF GETTING LITERS TO START WITH IT'S GETTING WARM AND THEIR GETTING READY TO KILL THEIRSELVES :damn:oh shii just noticed caps was on oh well not gonna retype it

Cutty72
03-05-2008, 03:29 PM
GREAT INFO i MAY HAVE TO PRINT THIS AND TAKE IT AND SHOW THE GUYS AT WORK i BEEN TRYING TO TALK EVERYONE OUT OF GETTING LITERS TO START WITH IT'S GETTING WARM AND THEIR GETTING READY TO KILL THEIRSELVES :damn:oh shii just noticed caps was on oh well not gonna retype it

you would...

:wtfru:

fpzx10
03-05-2008, 04:43 PM
GREAT INFO i MAY HAVE TO PRINT THIS AND TAKE IT AND SHOW THE GUYS AT WORK i BEEN TRYING TO TALK EVERYONE OUT OF GETTING LITERS TO START WITH IT'S GETTING WARM AND THEIR GETTING READY TO KILL THEIRSELVES :damn:oh shii just noticed caps was on oh well not gonna retype it

ok, ok, just stop yelling at me :scared:

ceo012384
03-10-2008, 01:17 AM
Great post zort.

Also, the main reason to do it is that it's THE BEST FUCKING TIME YOU WILL HAVE IN YOUR LIFE.

marko138
03-10-2008, 11:44 AM
Great post zort.

Also, the main reason to do it is that it's THE BEST FUCKING TIME YOU WILL HAVE IN YOUR LIFE.

This is NOT an understatement.



When are you coming south for the track?

ceo012384
03-11-2008, 12:55 AM
This is NOT an understatement.



When are you coming south for the track?
You mean an overstatement? :idk:



Coming south.... My hope is that the NJMP construction stays on schedule, meaning that my track day company will be doing their scheduled day that they have locked up in mid october. If the time gets closer and it looks promising, you bet your ass I'll cajole you into doing it.

And yeah, I said cajole. What of it?

marko138
03-11-2008, 10:17 AM
You mean an overstatement? :idk:



Coming south.... My hope is that the NJMP construction stays on schedule, meaning that my track day company will be doing their scheduled day that they have locked up in mid october. If the time gets closer and it looks promising, you bet your ass I'll cajole you into doing it.

And yeah, I said cajole. What of it?

Better hope it's on target....alot of groups have shit booked there.

ceo012384
03-11-2008, 03:12 PM
Better hope it's on target....alot of groups have shit booked there.

True... general rule for construction though is that they always fuck up and take longer. I hope that doesn't happen though.

I was looking at the track layout the other day... looks fun.

marko138
03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
True... general rule for construction though is that they always fuck up and take longer. I hope that doesn't happen though.

I was looking at the track layout the other day... looks fun.

Thats the absolute rule of construction. And yeah...it looks like a good layout.

azoomm
03-11-2008, 03:46 PM
True... general rule for construction though is that they always fuck up and take longer. I hope that doesn't happen though.

I was looking at the track layout the other day... looks fun.

Nah, general rule for construction of a track is there are always outside forces that fuck it up... I didn't know that until being involved on the build. Right now insurance is driving us INSANE.

Having more tracks is ALWAYS a good idea... where is this one?

marko138
03-11-2008, 03:52 PM
Nah, general rule for construction of a track is there are always outside forces that fuck it up... I didn't know that until being involved on the build. Right now insurance is driving us INSANE.

Having more tracks is ALWAYS a good idea... where is this one?

South New Jersey.

azoomm
03-11-2008, 03:58 PM
South New Jersey.

Oh crap. So, not only do they have factors like insurance and city/county requirements and red-tape. But, they have WINTER as well. eeewwwww.

ceo012384
03-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Oh crap. So, not only do they have factors like insurance and city/county requirements and red-tape. But, they have WINTER as well. eeewwwww.

Not to mention a high population density of douchebaggery. Hope I can just drive right to track without running into any locals.

azoomm
03-11-2008, 04:55 PM
Not to mention a high population density of douchebaggery. Hope I can just drive right to track without running into any locals.

Oh Noz!! Good luck to all involved!

vabarber2
03-12-2008, 08:36 PM
Cause you can go as fast as physicaly posible with out worry of police or on coming trafic! Its much safer and Legal!!!! Great way to work on your form with tips from the experts and good competition!!
~Enough Said!

marko138
03-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Cause you can go as fast as physicaly posible with out worry of police or on coming trafic! Its much safer and Legal!!!! Great way to work on your form with tips from the experts and good competition!!
~Enough Said!
Exactly. Now get your ass over there.

r!der
04-17-2008, 11:44 PM
because its fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVExD-Fz688&eurl=

ceo012384
04-17-2008, 11:50 PM
because its fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVExD-Fz688&eurl=

haha I remember that video.... QUINTUPLE KNEEDRAGGING FTW!!!! :lol:

Amber Lamps
04-18-2008, 04:30 AM
I said that too. Now, I have two track bikes and nothing for the street except my car. I think it just depends on how much time you can afford out there. But, imho trackdays are still cheaper all around than law enforcement awards and a crash on the street.

I can appreciate what you're saying but I still don't like the negative sell aspect of all this. I'm gonna curse myself but I haven't gotten a speeding ticket on a bike in over 4 years and other than 2 minor crashes which were single vehicle,ie my stupid fault-could have happened at the track the same way. I haven't had a crash involving a car since 2001. You all always approach these types of threads from the worst case scenario. "You are guaranteed tickets" and "you're gonna crash for sure". I ride every day weather permitting. I couldn't afford to ride on a track more than one or two days a month(= $400+ a month),I'd quit riding all together if the track was my only option.

Are you saying that you can log as many miles/hours on the track as I do on the street for less money?I mean seriously,a track day costs about $200minimum. Just to be able to ride 4x a month would cost you around $1000 by the time you figure gas for the hauling vehicle,etc. I agree that the track is a great place to hone your riding skills. I'll even concede that it's safer. Heck,I'll go along with everyone should try it,but to limit your riding to strictly track days....you must have DEEP pockets!