2009 Yamaha lineup will be release at 3pm EST on 8 Sep.

[DLIT]

Just saw it on their site. Didn't specify which models, but I imagine it'll have the R6/R1 in there. Can't wait! I may have found a buyer for my bike and since I owe less that what it's worth I could actually have money to put down this time. I priced it kinda high, which includes the track goodies I have. Reason is because I kinda don't want to start a whole new financing deal on a new bike, but if he gives me what I want, it's sold. I'm asking $7,500 which includes everything I have for the street plus my track 'glass and spare set of wheels (I paid over $1,700 for all that). That'll give me a solid $2,500 to put down on a new one (R6).

Anyway, I'm setting my alarm for noon tomorrow!

[Captain Morgan]

Looking forward to drooling over more things that I can't have...

[CW AF 03]

Maybe I'm getting cheap at my old age of 27 but until I hit the lottery, I won't buy another vehicle brand new...:panic:

Since Yamaha brought out the 08 R6, the 09 shouldn't be too much of a change. If you consider the average 2 year redesign cycle of the 600's, there should be a bad ass 600RR coming!

[t-homo]

Maybe I'm getting cheap at my old age of 27 but until I hit the lottery, I won't buy another vehicle brand new...:panic:

Since Yamaha brought out the 08 R6, the 09 shouldn't be too much of a change. If you consider the average 2 year redesign cycle of the 600's, there should be a bad ass 600RR coming!

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/september/1-7/sep0508-honda-2009-cbr600rr/

[Rider]

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/september/1-7/sep0508-honda-2009-cbr600rr/

A black and green Honda? No thanks. I think ALL of the color choices suck. The graphics are horrible.

[marko138]

I probly won't even look at the website.

[BobTheBiker]

UGH. that green does NOT BELONG on a Honda product. I"m itchin to see what Yammi throws down this year. not that I'll have cash to do it anyways.

[marko138]

I'd ride that green bike. Fuck it.

[Rider]

I'd ride that green bike. Fuck it.

Bullshit, you liar... It's an I4.

[marko138]

Bullshit, you liar... It's an I4.
Well of course....


Allow me to qualify that statement...I'd ride that green bike, if I was into that sort of thing.

[JoJoYZF]

I am pretty disappointed in the colors/graphics of the 09 cbr. Im really curious to see the new R1 and GSXR1000 this year.

[dReWpY]

i like the green color

[Trip]

A black and green Honda? No thanks. I think ALL of the color choices suck. The graphics are horrible.

Those are euro colors, we will get the normal plain colors.

[Trip]

09 yams are up, pretty much an 08 with new colors

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelgallerylib/8/1/0/gallery.aspx

looks like we get blue, black, white and orange.

The white would look bad ass without those ugly ass red seats.

[Rider]

The R1 is different. New Euro 3 pipes on it and some minor engine and cosmetic changes. Oh and a nice $800 price increase on the R1. I love the black R6 with the gold wheels.

[Rider]

Don't forget the new selectable drive modes for the R1 just like on the GSXR's except only having 2 modes, not 3.

[smileyman]

R1 has big bang firing order, same ole YTCC YICC crap and got uglier...I hope I can find a close out GSXR1000. All the new liter bikes look like crap.:panic: The new black and gold R6 is the pick o the yammies...The green and black CBR600 makes me think Monster Energy Drink and teh Blue White CBR looks like the old Konica Minolta GP paint scheme...:drool:

[z06boy]

The R1 looks ok...not jumping out of my chair crazy about it but I will be interested to see some performance #'s.

[DLIT]

I want to try and land this.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelimagelib/8/15/1/0/image.aspx

[JoJoYZF]

R1 has big bang firing order, same ole YTCC YICC crap and got uglier...I hope I can find a close out GSXR1000. All the new liter bikes look like crap.:panic: The new black and gold R6 is the pick o the yammies...The green and black CBR600 makes me think Monster Energy Drink and teh Blue White CBR looks like the old Konica Minolta GP paint scheme...:drool:

Agreed. The new R1 and zx10 are both ugly to me. The cbr is growing on me but I would love an 07 or 08 gsxr1000.

[DLIT]

I'm gonna wait til I see the new R1 in person. I didn't like the new body R6's when they came out, but when I saw it in person, I loved it.

Where the fuck is the intake on the R1, in the head light bucket area?

[JoJoYZF]

I'm gonna wait til I see the new R1 in person. I didn't like the new body R6's when they came out, but when I saw it in person, I loved it.

Where the fuck is the intake on the R1, in the head light bucket area?

I was wondering where the intake is too. And you have a point about seeing it in person. I hated the cbr1000 until I saw one at the dealer.

And that orange r6 is badass.

[Rider]

I'm gonna wait til I see the new R1 in person. I didn't like the new body R6's when they came out, but when I saw it in person, I loved it.

Where the fuck is the intake on the R1, in the head light bucket area?

Thats what it looked like to me. :idk: I dont see anywhere else it could be. Tried to do the 360 view to look at it head on, but that's not working yet.

[DLIT]

Electronic damper and weird suspension internal setup.

In keeping with this machine’s exceptional cornering ability and crisp handling, the all new aluminum frame has been designed to offer exceptional rigidity balance. The rear frame is now lightweight CF die-cast magnesium, contributing the optimum mass centralization. Suspension includes new SOQI front forks which use one of the tricks developed for our winning MotoGP bikes: independent damping. The left fork handles compression damping and the right side handles the rebound damping. And the rear shock adopts new bottom linkage for optimum suspension characteristics. Want even more? For the first time, R1 comes standard with an electronic steering damper.

Intake: The side fairing is smoother for a sleeker appearance. And, instead of the usual four bulb headlight design, the ’09 model now has only two projector-type bulbs mounted closer to the nose of the bike.

[DLIT]

More R1 info...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Sep/080908yronelv.htm

[dReWpY]

looks like a zx10 slipped an 08 r1 the mikey and had its way and this is the bastard child that resulted...

[JoJoYZF]

It appears as though Yamaha cut a deal with NESBA too.

http://www.nesba.com/info/Yamaha.aspx

[smileyman]

This is my next street ride! http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/619/0/home.aspx

I can use my ZX6R for track days and work the highways in style...Forget about the R1/R6 track bias!

[Dave]

heh that eccentric firing order is a nasty looking setup. intakes appear to be in the headlights area. that white/red is sick. now we just gotta see what zuk does.

[Trip]

it looks like a gixxer

[DLIT]

The new FZ looks tight as fuck.

[BobTheBiker]

near as I can tell the intakes are literally to the outside edge of the headlights. this bike looks like a totally fucking sick beast that will just straight up RIP for street and track use.
do those dual projectors in there kinda remind anyone else of the XB12 firebolt in a way?
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/09MS_YZFR1_blu_S4_bb08da4f.jpg

[DLIT]

near as I can tell the intakes are literally to the outside edge of the headlights. this bike looks like a totally fucking sick beast that will just straight up RIP for street and track use.
do those dual projectors in there kinda remind anyone else of the XB12 firebolt in a way?
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/09MS_YZFR1_blu_S4_bb08da4f.jpg

Yeah, first thing I thought was Buell headlights.

[fatburg]

The new FZ looks tight as fuck.

The regular FZ is unchanged. The FZR....nahh, don't like it. They went back to the older square swingarm, no undertail exhaust and a smaller rear tire. Not exactly "R" rating in my opinion

[NONE_too_SOFT]

near as I can tell the intakes are literally to the outside edge of the headlights. this bike looks like a totally fucking sick beast that will just straight up RIP for street and track use.
do those dual projectors in there kinda remind anyone else of the XB12 firebolt in a way?
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/09MS_YZFR1_blu_S4_bb08da4f.jpg

i was actually thinking they looked more like the lights on a daytona.

http://www.bikez.com/pictures/triumph/2007/24416_0_1_2_daytona%20675_Image%20credits%20-%20Triumph.jpg

[Mudpuppy]

09 yams are up, pretty much an 08 with new colors

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelgallerylib/8/1/0/gallery.aspx

looks like we get blue, black, white and orange.

The white would look bad ass without those ugly ass red seats.

i like the black and the blue ones.. other ones look like shit if you ask me..

[Trip]

not a very good photochop, but you get the idea. Looks so much better without those crackhead red seats.

[DLIT]

I wonder how the red seats will look on my Raven. I proly don't have enough red on there though.

[JoJoYZF]

The regular FZ is unchanged. The FZR....nahh, don't like it. They went back to the older square swingarm, no undertail exhaust and a smaller rear tire. Not exactly "R" rating in my opinion

Its replacing the YZF600R that they discontinued in 07.

[DLIT]

The R1 has a gear indicator now and a completely redesigned instrument cluster that looks badass. You can only see it in the video until they throw more pics up in the gallery.

[Dave]

the half compression half rebound damping forks are gonna be interesting

[DLIT]

the half compression half rebound damping forks are gonna be interesting

CW says they've been doing it in MotoGP for a little while now.

[Dave]

The R1 has a gear indicator now and a completely redesigned instrument cluster that looks badass. You can only see it in the video until they throw more pics up in the gallery.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/nr1.jpg

meh not digging it myself. looks more difficult to read than honda and kawi. seriously, kawishould get awards for how awesome the zeds cluster is. and does it REALLY need to remind me what bike im on 24/7?

[DLIT]

and does it REALLY need to remind me what bike im on 24/7?

Haha.

[Mrs. Colleen]

So....um....where can I get this picture desktop size? :whistle::whistle:

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelimagelib/6/58/all/0/image.aspx

[marko138]

Yeah, first thing I thought was Buell headlights.

They fucking suck. That is a fact.

[Dnyce]

can i special order this one? :whistle:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/09iwant.jpg

:idk: didnt see it in the release...

[marko138]

can i special order this one? :whistle:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa202/dnytro/09iwant.jpg

:idk: didnt see it in the release...
It looks like it's raising it's eye brows.

[z06boy]

I'll wait until I see one in person and actually sit on it/ride it before making judgement. I'm interested to see what the mags say about it when testing it also.

I'm not crazy about the initial pics BUT it may grow on me.

I didn't care for the C6 Z06 when it first came out but now I want one. :lol:

[marko138]

I'll wait until I see one in person and actually sit on it/ride it before making judgement. I'm interested to see what the mags say about it when testing it also.

I'm not crazy about the initial pics BUT it may grow on me.

I didn't care for the C6 Z06 when it first came out but now I want one. :lol:
Totally off topic...but...I read about the ZR1 Vette...or Z something...634hp and 600 some odd ft lbs of torque! Unbelievable.

[Dave]

Totally off topic...but...I read about the ZR1 Vette...or Z something...634hp and 600 some odd ft lbs of torque! Unbelievable.

its a ridiculously large supercharged v8 whats so hard to believe?

[marko138]

its a ridiculously large supercharged v8 whats so hard to believe?
Ok...not so unbelievable...as much as AWESOME.

[Dnyce]

It looks like it's raising it's eye brows.

lights remind me of the transfomers

[z06boy]

Totally off topic...but...I read about the ZR1 Vette...or Z something...634hp and 600 some odd ft lbs of torque! Unbelievable.

Yeah it's a real beast !! I don't have $100k to put on a car...not even close... BUT would love to rock it !!

I may get a C6 Z06 one day...snap up someone's "garage queen" when prices drop more. That's how I got my C5 Z back in 2002...totally stock garage queen with 9k miles on it.

I still have it but now it has been lowered and has a supercharger/cam/lightened flywheel/3:90 gears/intake and full exhaust.:dthumb:

It only has around 570 hp but it's paid for. :rockwoot:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b6d801b3127ccece3c2944205800000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4df07b3127cced76179486a6600000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced7859be6d18d00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

Ok...ok...back on topic...well the 09 R1 looks a "little" better to me today than yesterday. :idk: :whistle:

[marko138]

Yeah it's a real beast !! I don't have $100k to put on a car...not even close... BUT would love to rock it !!

I may get a C6 Z06 one day...snap up someone's "garage queen" when prices drop more. That's how I got my C5 Z back in 2002...totally stock garage queen with 9k miles on it.

I still have it but now it has been lowered and has a supercharger/cam/lightened flywheel/3:90 gears/intake and full exhaust.:dthumb:

It only has around 570 hp but it's paid for. :rockwoot:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b6d801b3127ccece3c2944205800000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4df07b3127cced76179486a6600000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced7859be6d18d00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

Ok...ok...back on topic...well the 09 R1 looks a "little" better to me today than yesterday. :idk: :whistle:
Love Vette's. Hope to have one someday.

[Dnyce]

haha "only 570"

[z06boy]

haha "only 570"

Well compared to the ZR1 plus the fact that when posting about a cage on a sportbike forum full of 9 and 10 second 1/4 mile bikes. :lol:

[smileyman]

the half compression half rebound damping forks are gonna be interesting

They first put it out on the 2nd gen FZ1...The suspesnion on that one wasn't as adjustable but I remember the damping and spring rates weren't good for the FZ1 and alot of folks went to scratching their heads as to how it could be better. I am sure the R1 components will be much higher quality...I think the European Black and Gold R1 is the hottest color scheme. It is available here only on the R6.

As for me my ego doesn't need a massage and I need a do-it -all bike more than I need 86 ft lbs of torque so the FZ6R is right up my alley! Of course you have to understand I owned 3 of the YZF600R's, so the do-it-all concept is my background as well.

[DLIT]

They first put it out on the 2nd gen FZ1...The suspesnion on that one wasn't as adjustable but I remember the damping and spring rates weren't good for the FZ1 and alot of folks went to scratching their heads as to how it could be better. I am sure the R1 components will be much higher quality...I think the European Black and Gold R1 is the hottest color scheme. It is available here only on the R6.

As for me my ego doesn't need a massage and I need a do-it -all bike more than I need 86 ft lbs of torque so the FZ6R is right up my alley! Of course you have to understand I owned 3 of the YZF600R's, so the do-it-all concept is my background as well.

You in the market for a '09 FZ6R then?

I'll wait until I see one in person and actually sit on it/ride it before making judgement. I'm interested to see what the mags say about it when testing it also.

I'm not crazy about the initial pics BUT it may grow on me.

I didn't care for the C6 Z06 when it first came out but now I want one. :lol:

Did you see the write up that Superbike Planet did? I posted it on page 1 or 2 in this thread.

[z06boy]

Did you see the write up that Superbike Planet did? I posted it on page 1 or 2 in this thread.


Yes...actually was just reading that when you posted this. What I meant by mag test/articles is actual riding test as compared to the previous R1's. I'm looking forward to FastBikes...Superbike...or SportRider to thrash one and and compare it to the 07' - 08' like I have.

Thanks for the link. :dthumb:

[DLIT]

Yes...actually was just reading that when you posted this. What I meant by mag test/articles is actual riding test as compared to the previous R1's. I'm looking forward to FastBikes...Superbike...or SportRider to thrash one and and compare it to the 07' - 08' like I have.

Thanks for the link. :dthumb:

I haven't read it yet, it doesn't mention any improvements compared to older models, like lack of midrange?

[z06boy]

I haven't read it yet, it doesn't mention any improvements compared to older models, like lack of midrange?

Well it claims this...

Originally pioneered in Yamaha's YZR-M1 MotoGP missile, crossplane technology puts each crank pin 90 degrees from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270-180-90-180 degrees.

This uneven order does something pretty radical. It actually helps the power build more smoothly. That means smooth-as-silk roll-on delivery out of the corners, with bagsful of torque, followed by very strong, high-rpm power. It's like having two engines in one: the low-rpm, torquey feel of a twin combined with the hyperkinetic, high-rpm power of an inline four. As a 2009 R1 rider, you'll enjoy more linear throttle response with awesome power and traction exiting corners.


Sounds good but the proof will be in the test. :dthumb:

[Rider]

Well it claims this...

Originally pioneered in Yamaha's YZR-M1 MotoGP missile, crossplane technology puts each crank pin 90 degrees from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270-180-90-180 degrees.

This uneven order does something pretty radical. It actually helps the power build more smoothly. That means smooth-as-silk roll-on delivery out of the corners, with bagsful of torque, followed by very strong, high-rpm power. It's like having two engines in one: the low-rpm, torquey feel of a twin combined with the hyperkinetic, high-rpm power of an inline four. As a 2009 R1 rider, you'll enjoy more linear throttle response with awesome power and traction exiting corners.


Sounds good but the proof will be in the test. :dthumb:

Sounds like a winner to me. :dthumb:

[Captain Morgan]

Totally off topic...but...I read about the ZR1 Vette...or Z something...634hp and 600 some odd ft lbs of torque! Unbelievable.

its a ridiculously large supercharged v8 whats so hard to believe?

Ok...not so unbelievable...as much as AWESOME.

back off topic for a second...what's unbelievable to me is that it is factory production. Unfortunately, it comes with a helluva price tag.
I'll be getting a new sportbike long before I get a new vette.

[Dave]

back off topic for a second...what's unbelievable to me is that it is factory production. Unfortunately, it comes with a helluva price tag.
I'll be getting a new sportbike long before I get a new vette.

what amazes me is people will drop 100k on a car with such an awful interior

[z06boy]

what amazes me is people will drop 100k on a car with such an awful interior

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

[Gixxer1k]

what amazes me is people will drop 100k on a car with such an awful interior

Same reason they drop viper money to get beat by shit for 1/4 the price... like ohhhh ummmm Jasons 300, lol.(He beat an NSX that day too, sorry dave, lol jk)

[Trip]

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

Because you are a pussy to ride a reliable cheap japanese bike. :lol:

[Dave]

Because of the styling and performance.

The interior is better but still not great.

I don't understand why people pay so much for Harley Davidson's...but they do.

styling and performance.

#1 its a higher spec of vette but its still a vette and looks enough like regular ones that non enthusiasts arent gonna be impressed.

#2 90% of the folks buying them will never access those limits. now thats not usually a huge deal, hell bikes are a great example of that. however, the way chevy built that power is THE SAME EXACT WAY YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MODDING THE CAR AFTERMARKET! as the oem (and especially one asking so much for the product) they should have added power in a way we cant. be it an lsx based v12 or some exotic unobtanium technology. to my mind theres no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it :rant:

[Carolina]

new zuk

http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q441/J_Trester/profilemotocyclesxs7.jpg

lol

[dReWpY]

what bike?

[Carolina]

random pic jus bsing. Just thought the chic was hott

[ceo012384]

At first I didn't like the looks but they grew on me... I want to see one in person, all the mass centralization they did has made the bike a lot smaller and narrower. I bet it feels almost like a 600.

Not to mention the engine's gotta be a fucking BEAST.

A lot of people are shitting on the looks but to me all the advancements are a lot more important... the crossplane crankshaft and uneven firing is fucking SICK.

Not to mention, how the fuck could you say this doesn't look sick?

http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/full/08I8E512314581AJ/2009-Yamaha-YZF-R1-Bred-to-Perfection-AJ-full.jpeg

[Carolina]

didn't read the article yet but had to post link this bitch is the pertiest shit out so far that ive seen and yes that yami is hott looking


http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/119/2009-suzuki-gsx-r-1000-k9

[Carolina]

FAIL just read it

[dReWpY]

if that was the k9, which it says its just a mock up of what it might look like, i think its the best looking liter bike out

[ceo012384]

didn't read the article yet but had to post link this bitch is the pertiest shit out so far that ive seen and yes that yami is hott looking


http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/119/2009-suzuki-gsx-r-1000-k9

If by 'pertiest shit' you mean 'looks like every other lame blue and white gixxer already on the road' then yes, it's the pertiest shit.

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/suzuki-gsxr-2009-rendering/big_big_suzukigsxr2009.jpg

vs the current bike:
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://motoaus.com/images/stories/suzuki2008/GSXR1000-2008.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFuYqYyghUn2JFAP6EmFB8Jdi8TXw

[NONE_too_SOFT]

If by 'pertiest shit' you mean 'looks like every other lame blue and white gixxer already on the road' then yes, it's the pertiest shit.

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/suzuki-gsxr-2009-rendering/big_big_suzukigsxr2009.jpg

vs the current bike:
http://images.google.com/url?q=http://motoaus.com/images/stories/suzuki2008/GSXR1000-2008.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFuYqYyghUn2JFAP6EmFB8Jdi8TXw


by yearly bike standards, i'd have to say those two look nothing alike.

[Dnyce]

i asked for the black/gold combo a bunch of posts ago, i guess they heard me lol
do we get that combo in the states?

that gsxr does look fairly dif, but fuckin suzuki headlights just get worse and fuckin worse, damn. looks like some flipflop wearing mofo crashed it into the ugly wall.

[DLIT]

At first I didn't like the looks but they grew on me... I want to see one in person, all the mass centralization they did has made the bike a lot smaller and narrower. I bet it feels almost like a 600.

Not to mention the engine's gotta be a fucking BEAST.

A lot of people are shitting on the looks but to me all the advancements are a lot more important... the crossplane crankshaft and uneven firing is fucking SICK.

Not to mention, how the fuck could you say this doesn't look sick?

http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/full/08I8E512314581AJ/2009-Yamaha-YZF-R1-Bred-to-Perfection-AJ-full.jpeg

That shit's my new background, son.

[Rider]

If by 'pertiest shit' you mean 'looks like every other lame blue and white gixxer already on the road' then yes, it's the pertiest shit.

http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/suzuki-gsxr-2009-rendering/big_big_suzukigsxr2009.jpg



That aint the 09 gixxer 1K. Thats a PS job.

[smileyman]

Hope the new GSXR looks that good. The way things have gone with all the OEMs they gets uglier and uglier...

The black n gold is a Euro model for now but we get a black with red hilights...

[z06boy]

Because you are a pussy to ride a reliable cheap japanese bike. :lol:

:lol: Yeah really !!



styling and performance.

#1 its a higher spec of vette but its still a vette and looks enough like regular ones that non enthusiasts arent gonna be impressed.

#2 90% of the folks buying them will never access those limits. now thats not usually a huge deal, hell bikes are a great example of that. however, the way chevy built that power is THE SAME EXACT WAY YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE MODDING THE CAR AFTERMARKET! as the oem (and especially one asking so much for the product) they should have added power in a way we cant. be it an lsx based v12 or some exotic unobtanium technology. to my mind theres no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it

Well we each have an opinion and I'd say you're wrong about "no reason to buy the fucker and almost no reason to build it"...they will sell ALL of them. :dthumb:

I'm not interested in one...too much $$ BUT I bet they will have NO problem selling them especially since they are being built in limited supply.

[smileyman]

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

[Dave]

Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

all im saying is for that bread the factory needs to do something besides slap on off the shelf parts. the eighties ZR1 cost almost double the base vette but at least you got the engineered by lotus dohc LT5 to show for it.

and z06boy, im sure you are right. im sure they will sell every one of em. if people are willing to drop eighty grand on a 40k dodge challenger im sure they'll be just fine. they just could have done so much more. hell. hows about a flat planed crank to make that sucker scream? oh wait i forgot its a legacy v8 vehicle (even though it started life as a six) and the old guys wouldnt be able to accept it if it wailed instead of rumbled. gay

[NEW469]

IMO .....R1s use to be the benchmark of a sexy sportbike....

:rant:WTF happened to the 2009 R1....it looks like the offsrping of a Firebolt & R1....

Did the same clown who designed the new CBR 1000 also design the '09 R1? this has got to be just as fugly as the CBR 1k....maybe even fuglier.:hitfan::td:

I was looking forward to getting a new R1...looks like I'll be waiting for the next revamp.

[JoJoYZF]

IMO .....R1s use to be the benchmark of a sexy sportbike....

:rant:WTF happened to the 2009 R1....it looks like the offsrping of a Firebolt & R1....

Did the same clown who designed the new CBR 1000 also design the '09 R1? this has got to be just as fugly as the CBR 1k....maybe even fuglier.:hitfan::td:

I was looking forward to getting a new R1...looks like I'll be waiting for the next revamp.

I thought the new cbr1 was gross until I saw it in person. Pics definitely dont do it justice so Im hoping the R1 is the same way. Now the zx10 is just hideous all the time.

[DLIT]

I thought the new cbr1 was gross until I saw it in person. Pics definitely dont do it justice so Im hoping the R1 is the same way. Now the zx10 is just hideous all the time.

My thoughts exactly. I was in Korea while the 1000RR dropped and immediately judged tham as ugly as fuck. Saw one in person and another and another and I really like the looks now. I'm holding my judgment on the R1 til i see it in person.

[Dnyce]

idk, the rr is ugly in pics, and ugly in person. the r1 looks badass, cept for the pipe. looks like the pipe came off a b-king lol

[JoJoYZF]

idk, the rr is ugly in pics, and ugly in person. the r1 looks badass, cept for the pipe. looks like the pipe came off a b-king lol

I dont think theres a stock pipe I like anymore. The only one that I can think of is the stock black one that came on the 06-07 gsxr 600 and 750.

[Dave]

I thought the new cbr1 was gross until I saw it in person. Pics definitely dont do it justice so Im hoping the R1 is the same way. Now the zx10 is just hideous all the time.

hideously sexy :diitb:

[marko138]

I dont think theres a stock pipe I like anymore. The only one that I can think of is the stock black one that came on the 06-07 gsxr 600 and 750.
That was a good looking stocker.

[dReWpY]

the r1 is vanilla is person, just looks there i cant say i liked it but the front end does look goofy

[Rider]

the r1 is vanilla is person, just looks there i cant say i liked it but the front end does look goofy

And the tail section is very wide.

[z06boy]

and z06boy, im sure you are right. im sure they will sell every one of em. if people are willing to drop eighty grand on a 40k dodge challenger im sure they'll be just fine. they just could have done so much more. hell. hows about a flat planed crank to make that sucker scream? oh wait i forgot its a legacy v8 vehicle (even though it started life as a six) and the old guys wouldnt be able to accept it if it wailed instead of rumbled. gay

I don't call it gay...I call it...to each their own. :idk: All I was sayng is that it wasn't a waste to build...the car is a badazz...but I agree...cost too much.

I won't be buying one...can't afford it but yes I'd rock it in a heartbeat. :rockout:



Really the appeal of special ed (sorry had to)vettes are no different from the Shelby Cobra GT500, the Saleen Mustang, or for that matter the Special edition Yammie R1 which came out modded with Ohlins suspension or the R7. They are limited edition bought it fast and moddified specials that will have a appeal to a certain niche of enthusiast. Performance numbers and how it ranks against it's competition (or even the regular model) doesn't really apply.

You could buy a base Mustang GT and with between $6-8000 mod it to GT 500 spec but in the end you just have a modded GT. But the Shelby GT500 badge and title mean something else all together (IMHO you spent too much). Not my cuppa I am way biased to function over form and as cheap as I can get by, but some folks (alot of them) see it different...

Exactly right imho.

That's why I bought a completely stock C5 Z06 sitting in a guys garage back in 2002 with 9k miles on it...at a good price.:dthumb: Every mod the car now has...blower...cam...intake...full exhaust...rear gears...clutch...lightened flywheel...shifter...lowered...etc...came AFTER I bought it.

I couldn't afford to buy a Lingenfelter model so I bought parts here and there and ended up with about the same thing and love it....BUT at the end of the day no...it's not an actual Lingenfelter model...but I have a lot less $$ in it for basically the same thing. :dthumb:

My supercharger...boost gauge and longtube headers were taken off of a Z06 at Lingenfelter and shipped to me. The rich guy that owned it decided it wasn't fast enough so he had them take it out and send it to me and went to a 427 TT.:drool:

*edit* My reference to "the rich guy" is based on the fact that he also had a Ferrari and a huge house in Chicago and $$ seemed to be no issue with him. He gave me a great deal on the supercharger.

[JoJoYZF]

I don't call it gay...I call it...to each their own. :idk: All I was sayng is that it wasn't a waste to build...the car is a badazz...but I agree...cost too much.

I won't be buying one...can't afford it but yes I'd rock it in a heartbeat. :rockout:





Exactly right imho.

That's why I bought a completely stock C5 Z06 sitting in a guys garage back in 2002 with 9k miles on it...at a good price.:dthumb: Every mod the car now has...blower...cam...intake...full exhaust...rear gears...clutch...lightened flywheel...shifter...lowered...etc...came AFTER I bought it.

I couldn't afford to buy a Lingenfelter model so I bought parts here and there and ended up with about the same thing and love it....BUT at the end of the day no...it's not an actual Lingenfelter model...but I have a lot less $$ in it for basically the same thing. :dthumb:

My supercharger...boost gauge and longtube headers were taken off of a Z06 at Lingenfelter and shipped to me. The rich guy that owned it decided it wasn't fast enough so he had them take it out and send it to me and went to a 427 TT.:drool:

*edit* My reference to "the rich guy" is based on the fact that he also had a Ferrari and a huge house in Chicago and $$ seemed to be no issue with him. He gave me a great deal on the supercharger.

Thats awesome man. Do you do your own work on it or take it to a shop? I knew it was modded but I never knew what all was done to it. Thats a pretty bad ass set up. Any pics of te engine bay and such?

[z06boy]

Ok since I've been involved in "Vette talk" in a thread about the 09 R1 I feel obligated to at least contribute to the original topic.

I don't really know if I like the new R1...performance #'s will help...I'm not too crazy about the look but maybe it will grow on me but so far I like my 07 better.

Here are some chopped pics of the 09...looks a lot better with some work to the undertail/exhaust area. The front is still hurting though. :idk:

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349390&d=1221599510

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349206&d=1221500304

Added accents to the seat...

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349215&d=1221500983

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349022&d=1221364049

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349093&d=1221426844
http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349096&d=1221428063

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/projektm3/no20mufflercopy.jpg

http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349174&d=1221468266

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/11/28/55/17/r1-grt10.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/untchbl50/Myr1copycopy-2.jpg

[ceo012384]

I guarantee the first new R1 I see in black race plastics with a couple slick parts on it, I'm going to blow my load all over the place.

[DLIT]

i'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE TRACK 'GLASS MAKERS WORK AROUND THE HEADLIGHTS. iT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A SEALED LENS they can just make a mold over, you know? But they still have to leave the area for the intake in tact.

[z06boy]

Thats awesome man. Do you do your own work on it or take it to a shop? I knew it was modded but I never knew what all was done to it. Thats a pretty bad ass set up. Any pics of te engine bay and such?

Thanks. I do the bolt on basic stuff like the intake and some of the exhaust...a friend helped me with the stuff like lowering...adding the headers and boost gauge and things like that but another guy that I know put in the cam...rear gear...clutch/flywheel and dyno tuned it.

It's not a race car...plenty of cars around putting out bigger #'s but it sure is a fun car and since 2002 and about 44k miles very reliable. It's good for about 500 rwhp and close to that in tq. It weighs a little over 3000 lbs which isn't bad.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced7859be6d18d00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced785af0d504c00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b5d825b3127ccecb1d9d67285a00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

[smileyman]

Lord Vader, your Vette is ready!

[z06boy]

:lol:

[JoJoYZF]

Thanks. I do the bolt on basic stuff like the intake and some of the exhaust...a friend helped me with the stuff like lowering...adding the headers and boost gauge and things like that but another guy that I know put in the cam...rear gear...clutch/flywheel and dyno tuned it.

It's not a race car...plenty of cars around putting out bigger #'s but it sure is a fun car and since 2002 and about 44k miles very reliable. It's good for about 500 rwhp and close to that in tq. It weighs a little over 3000 lbs which isn't bad.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced7859be6d18d00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b4da29b3127cced785af0d504c00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b5d825b3127ccecb1d9d67285a00000010O08AcMWjly5cNA e3nww/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D480/ry%3D320/

That car is badass man. Id love to have a built and blacked out c5 z06 or terminator cobra. Very very nice.

[z06boy]

That car is badass man. Id love to have a built and blacked out c5 z06 or terminator cobra. Very very nice.

Stang = good fun cars too !! I used to have a 5.0 with a Vortech supercharger and a bunch of other stuff.

I'm not brand loyal. :dthumb:

[JoJoYZF]

Stang = good fun cars too !! I used to have a 5.0 with a Vortech supercharger and a bunch of other stuff.

I'm not brand loyal. :dthumb:

Obviously not. I have just a v6 mustang convertible until spring time then its either a mustang gt, cobra, gto, z28, etc. Something v8 and rwd.