Ebbs Down

[Katherine]

Got a text yesterday:

I went down. Clutch slipped. Bike is fucked. Case cover is shattered. On 41 just south of Lol IL.

He said he had to rent a truck (because rental cars don't do one way rentals). He threw the bike in the truck and is still on his way home.

[z06boy]

Well that sux. Glad he's ok though.

[Rider]

Oh shit.... That sucks. Glad he's ok though.

[neebelung]

Oh crap!! :( Glad he's alright!

[Rider]

Sounds like he was just south of Chicago. I'm only 2 1/2 hours from there. I could have helped him out.

[Katherine]

He said a really nice guy that saw it happen stopped to help him. The guy even gave him a ride to the rental place. I'm glad there are still good people out there.

Oh and the guy rides, so, of course, Ebbs hands him a card.

[the chi]

my darn phone had died and I coudnt get to his messages, he finally managed to get that front wheel off the ground :panic:...he is okay tho, went to the ER last night, has a bad sprain but fortunately thats it!

[dReWpY]

who did ebbs go down on?

[the chi]

LMAO! Perv...are you trying to hide your gayness babe?

[dReWpY]

:idk: just wondering if he was coming out of the closet to join trock

[smileyman]

Damn! Well chalk up one hell of an experience for the Ebbster. He saw alittle of everything motorcycling has to offer on his epic journey. Now he has to do the walk of shame and earn his newbie wings in bike repair 101.
CHin up laddie, it happens to us all, at least those of us fortunate and daring enough to risk all in the pursuit of our 2 wheeled Fix:twfix:

[PiZdETS]

Damn that sucks, good to hear he's safe. Time to upgrade when he gets back from Korea.

[Gunther1000]

Damn! Well chalk up one hell of an experience for the Ebbster. He saw alittle of everything motorcycling has to offer on his epic journey. Now he has to do the walk of shame and earn his newbie wings in bike repair 101.
CHin up laddie, it happens to us all, at least those of us fortunate and daring enough to risk all in the pursuit of our 2 wheeled Fix:twfix:

True you are Smileyman,

Sorry that trip had to end on a sour note man. Please yourself with some upgrades! It always makes me feel better, and gives you extra incentive to keep it upright next time.

[dReWpY]

word, you never know your limits until you break them

[NONE_too_SOFT]

just talked to him. apparently he only had a fingertip grip on the clutch at a start, and just looped the damn thing. what a squid. He's okay cept for a possibly sprained ankle.

[fatburg]

just talked to him. apparently he only had a fingertip grip on the clutch at a start, and just looped the damn thing. what a squid. He's okay cept for a possibly sprained ankle.

what, is he tired from riding 5000 fricken miles or something?

[fnfalman]

I hope that the hot chick that he popped the wheelie for was worth it.

[dReWpY]

Wheelie squid

[Rider]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee118/gsxxxer/l_888ecb7bed159329926c0fe15156c110.jpg






Sorry man I couldn't help it. Glad your alright though.

[dReWpY]

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee118/gsxxxer/l_888ecb7bed159329926c0fe15156c110.jpg

helped ya out rider

[smileyman]

Finger tip flip. Nythe! I start out trips clutching with just 2, but at the end of 3-400 miles I am using my whole hand and arm like a hook...Got to find some exercise to strenghten my wrists...Hmmm.:whistle:

[psychochild28]

Wheelie squid

you're one to talk wheelie squid. You seem to think it's cool and get this huge grin when you take it up about the 6 inches that you acutally get it off the ground. :lol:

[dReWpY]

dont be hating....

... and i know i should not be doing wheelies

[psychochild28]

Glad to hear ebbs is ok though. :dthumb:

sucks about the bike though

[Captain Morgan]

Damn, that sucks! Glad he's okay. At least he can save some money while in Korea these last 5 months and spend it on fixing the bike, or getting a new one when he returns.

[marko138]

What...The...Fuck.

[Trip]

damn, after all those technical roads I took him on, he loops it. damn squid

glad you are ok man.

[Mr Lefty]

Hey all... yeah... I'm a royal douche bag... fluck'n looped a 600... :lmao:

As NtS said... I was leaving the light and got on it a bit aggressively... but only had the tips of my index and middle fingers on the clutch... and it slipped... causing me to roll into the throttle more... I got a good view of the sky... then was on my side... got up thinking... wow... I looked like a royal ass.

Got up and noticed liquid everywhere.... first thought was fuel... nope... OIL... fuck'n case cover broke... frame sliders did their job and protected everything else... but they bent themselves.

not sure what happened to my ankle... thought at first the peg landed on it... and it was broken... but I could move it up and down and put a little weight on it so I said no to the Ambulance and the ER... and went and rented a truck...

a Really nice guy stopped and moved my bike out of the intersection then off to the side of the road. and then drove me down to get a rental... he said he used to ride sport bikes and now has a custom... gave him a card... hope he joins up... I can't for the life of me remember his name... I feel like a fuck'n douche (i'm fuck'n HORRIBLE with names)

$850 later... I was in a budget rental van going back to load up my bike.

I drove up to Kenosha and stopped for some food... when I got out... I literally fell out of the truck... my lower leg hurt so fucking bad. so I limped in and got my food... called Tricare (my military insurance co) and asked the lady at the register where the nearest ER was... (thought it was a little odd that she gave me PERFECT turn by turn directions... but an impressive oddity)

went into the ER... there was a gorgeous woman at the front named stephanie... talked to her for a bit... then actually told her why I was limping in like a damn war vet... the ER was packed so it took a LONG ass time to get in... and even longer for the x-rays to come back.

Severe sprain... but he couldn't see a break. though he said I need to go get it checked out in a couple days as he couldn't see clearly with all the swelling.

I got out of the ER at like 930 or so.... and stopped for the night at 2... at that point I'd been up for 20 hrs... and with the pain... couldn't go further... pulled into a rest stop slept for a bit (3 or 4 hrs) then drove to my parents in Fargo.

ok... I'll shut up now... and attach a pic

look closely at the case cover... it's cracked in like 10 places... and has a hole big enough to stick a couple fingers through....

I'll get better pics when I get the bike unloaded

[Trip]

bike doesn't look too bad from that pic, you can find a case cover on ebay for pretty cheap

[NONE_too_SOFT]

bike doesn't look too bad from that pic, you can find a case cover on ebay for pretty cheap

its totaled for sure.

[marko138]

Ooof. ER's suck. I was in there for like 5 hours when I crashed. Same deal...sprained ankle no breaky.

[JoJoYZF]

Come on man, you were so close to making it back in one piece and had to go squid. Hope you heal up quick.

[Mr Lefty]

bike doesn't look too bad from that pic, you can find a case cover on ebay for pretty cheap

yeah I sent that text to Kat when I first wrecked... saw the oil... and over reacted...

insurance is gonna love me...

[Rider]

Yoshi makes case savers. Not sure if they are available for your bike but I'd check them out.

[dReWpY]

welcome to the "binned it" crowd

two types of riders
ones that have wrecked and once that are going to wreck

[Mr Lefty]

Yoshi makes case savers. Not sure if they are available for your bike but I'd check them out.

I'm always surprised to see how much IS NOT available for my bike as it's the old ZX6R :idk:

[DLIT]

I wouldn't even claim it. You have however many more months of not riding it in Korea, save your money up nd possibly buy the same or better shit.

[smileyman]

NCR makes hardened case covers, you know like the one you were eyeing on my bike...Mines CFM. Those damn magnesium ones bust too easy and I have always replaced them first thing if I thought the bike was going to the track.

Funny story though, saw a kid on a YZF600R loop out a wheelie one day and he came down so hard on his case it knocked the crankshaft out of its bearings...Totalled the bike.

Fortunately yours doesn't look that bad!

[Rider]

I'm always surprised to see how much IS NOT available for my bike as it's the old ZX6R :idk:

Yeah doesn't look like they are available. But this is what they look like for my bike.

http://www.yoshimura-rd.com/images/PRODUCT/medium/3582.jpg

[Mr Lefty]

I wouldn't even claim it. You have however many more months of not riding it in Korea, save your money up nd possibly buy the same or better shit.

my deductible is $500... Case cover is gonna about that it self I think.... front fairing is slightly damaged... need a new frame slider..my fairings are already fucked from the tip over with my flat tire, and a gas can rubbing it when I hauled it down from AK. then there's my helmet, jacket, pants, boots, and gloves... all are covered...

[Trip]

If you think it is enough to total it. Definitely turn it in. You will get more for your bike than if you sell it and then you can buy that new one you want.

cover for my honda I have found for $60, they aren't that expensive. The woodcrafts are like $200 retail and thats the replaceable slider ones.

[JoJoYZF]

NCR makes hardened case covers, you know like the one you were eyeing on my bike...Mines CFM. Those damn magnesium ones bust too easy and I have always replaced them first thing if I thought the bike was going to the track.

Funny story though, saw a kid on a YZF600R loop out a wheelie one day and he came down so hard on his case it knocked the crankshaft out of its bearings...Totalled the bike.

Fortunately yours doesn't look that bad!

I would laugh my ass off if I saw that. I ride a yzf600r too and you have to really try to get the wheel up in the first place. Very hard to accidentally loop it unless doing wheelies.

[Mr Lefty]

If you think it is enough to total it. Definitely turn it in. You will get more for your bike than if you sell it and then you can buy that new one you want.

cover for my honda I have found for $60, they aren't that expensive. The woodcrafts are like $200 retail and thats the replaceable slider ones.

well I'm gonna have them replace all the plastics... that'll be over 1000.... the case cover 200 for a stock one (guessing)... so not enough to total it... the rest is gear... $500 helmet... $200 jacket, $120 pants, $200 gloves, and $180 boots...

funny thing is... I wasn't worried about my gear as it all held up great... didn't even hit my head... but the insurance lady said if I'm already over the 500... claim all my gear.

[Captain Morgan]

I don't know that I would claim any of it. I'd buy a case cover and some frame sliders and call it good. But that's me.

[Mr Lefty]

looked again... frame is scratched near my rear sets... swing arm has a decent scratch... and the fairing stay is quite tweaked... I'll get better pics tomorrow... I'm fuck'n exhausted and I'm headed to bed

['73 H1 Triple]

looked again... frame is scratched near my rear sets... swing arm has a decent scratch... and the fairing stay is quite tweaked... I'll get better pics tomorrow... I'm fuck'n exhausted and I'm headed to bed

Glad to hear YOU aren't too bad. The bike can be repaired/replaced.

Good luck and hope you heal quickly
Jeff

[dubbs]

looked again... frame is scratched near my rear sets... swing arm has a decent scratch... and the fairing stay is quite tweaked... I'll get better pics tomorrow... I'm fuck'n exhausted and I'm headed to bed

Glad to hear your doing ok.. Sucks seein it happen to another ZZR.. I fucked up my ankle too, must of been a severe ankle sprain like you, no break but 3 months later and its still a tad bit swollen and still hurts when fully extended.

Good luck healin up and gettin her fixed up man. :dthumb:

[brupska]

Nice to hear you are ok. Your bike can be fixed. When you get back to Korea go to Seol and Hooker Hill there used to be a bar called the Hard Rock. They make a great Long Island Ice tea. LOL Good luck and hope to see you next year.

[Gas Man]

Glad you're ok Ebbs...

Not sure about AK laws... but in michigan, scratch on frame = totalled... so claiming it might not be a good idea.

[itgirl]

well, at least ebbs finally got some decent seat time on he bike before this happened. i guess if it were gonna happen, it's good it happened after all the festivities were over...at least he didn't miss out on that.

glad you're okay, ebbs.

[Crazy]

damn man, glad you're okay! I'm probably closer than anyone, where'd you go down?
I wish you had my number, I would have been over there with a truck :lol:.

good thing that guy helped you out, i hope he joins the forum.

[Mrs. Colleen]

Glad to hear YOU aren't too bad. The bike can be repaired/replaced.

Good luck and hope you heal quickly
Jeff

:iagree:

And FWIW...my stock case cover was less than $100 when I replaced it. :idk:

[Dnyce]

glad to hear u not beat up too bad, but damn u must have been tired to loop it the way u described, it doesnt even sound possible, cept for a mega hardcore noob...what the hell were u really doin :lol:

[Cutty72]

After all the attempts at wheelies, and then ya go and loop it :nonod:

Glad you're ok, disregard that text as you are sleeping now, and i didn't read the entire thread right away. :lol:

Let me know if you need any help with it before you head back, or if you want me to take care of anything while you're gone.

[dReWpY]

:pebbs:+:kawi:=Ebbs

[Cutty72]

:pebbs:+:kawi:=Ebbs

na that smiley actually lands it on the wheels :lol:


oh, and sorry to hear you can only get it up 6" drewp.

[r!der]

That totally sux man! Good to hear you weren't seriously hurt.

[dReWpY]

na that smiley actually lands it on the wheels :lol:


oh, and sorry to hear you can only get it up 6" drewp.

its a personal problem, she said it happened to everyone...:tear:

[ceo012384]

Squid!!!!!!!

hahaha sucks dude :panic:

Put it behind ya... no big deal.

[Dave]

glad to hear you are ok man. next time remember your good friend mr rear brake ;)

[Mr Lefty]

yeah truthfully I was pretty tired, and my mind was elsewhere... just a second of lapse of attention... and boom... I'm a squid.

gonna go take the bike to be appraised today

[marko138]

Time to buy that Buell, kid.

[Rider]

Time to buy that Buell, kid.

Nah I think he's leaning toward a gixxer.

[marko138]

Nah I think he's leaning toward a gixxer.
He's clearly never rode a Buell if thats the case.

[Mr Lefty]

Time to buy that Buell, kid.

Nah I think he's leaning toward a gixxer.

not sure what I'm leaning towards really.... I do know I'm not getting anything bigger than a 600... I need a lot more seat time... and obviously they have more than enough power.

after seeing Trip's and Kat's RR's... those look pretty enticing too :idk: but this just delays my bike purchase... as I'll have to fix everything... I seriously doubt it'll be totaled...

[marko138]

600. :lol: It's all about power delivery, guy.

[Mr Lefty]

yeah... it is... but even before this... I was telling Trip, Rae and who ever was dumb enough to listen... that 600 had more than enough power for me right now... shit I barely have 8k on the bike now... and wanted to move up? yeah... maybe i did hit my head and knock something straight. :lol:

[dReWpY]

so with out saying that your clutch slipped or anything like that what really happend, was it a true looped and over she went?

[Mr Lefty]

well she went vertical... then slammed down on the left side. don't know just how far she rotated

[Trip]

600. :lol: It's all about power delivery, guy.

Silly me, I thought it was about lap times. :lol:

[dReWpY]

Silly me, I thought it was about lap times. :lol:

its about chrome and neons, come on man' get it right

[Rider]

its about chrome and neons, come on man' get it right

Dont forget stretched swing arms.

[Trip]

Dont forget stretched swing arms.

got to have a custom paint job and remove one of the brake calipers/rotor so you can see the front wheel.

[dReWpY]

dont forget the 120'clock bar

[JoJoYZF]

How did all of you forget the 360 rear tire?

[Mr Lefty]

dont forget the 120'clock bar

could have used that actually :lol:

[JoJoYZF]

could have used that actually :lol:

And a crash cage.

[Mr Lefty]

or maybe just some skill :idk:

[JoJoYZF]

or maybe just some skill :idk:

You had to have some skill to make it that far without issue. Youre just no jason britton.

[dReWpY]

so a wanna be jason Britton.....

[JoJoYZF]

so a wanna be jason Britton.....

:lol: :zowned:

[Mr Lefty]

this is where my hate for stunters stems from... jealousy... :lol:

naw... I've pulled a couple wheelies... I just suck horribly at them... so I never do them when anyones around :lol:

I was HONESTLY not trying to wheelie... apparently my bike had different ideas

[dReWpY]

the best part~ i guarentee i am a bigger squid then ebbs

[JoJoYZF]

the best part~ i guarentee i am a bigger squid then ebbs

Also with a couple more miles under your belt.

[Mr Lefty]

lol... I dunno... what's more squid like... having a cop knock over your bike, or looping it at a stop light? yeah... thought so

[dReWpY]

i just dont fuc .... actually i am going to stop before i jinx myself...

[Mr Lefty]

i just dont fuc .... actually i am going to stop before i jinx myself...

:lol: good idea...

oh and I'm glad I was wearing all my shit... jacket, pants and boots are rashed...

I'd have a broken ankle for sure if I was wearing sneekers. some nasty rash on my knee and arm with out the pants and knee/shin guards and jacket. didn't see any mark on my helmet so don't think my head hit at all.

[dReWpY]

sounds like my leathers and boots... yeah i actually perfer the rashed look, i hate matching gear that looks perdy

[Mr Lefty]

sounds like my leathers and boots... yeah i actually perfer the rashed look, i hate matching gear that looks perdy

well my pants are rashed on one knee... the boots just slightly... the jacket took the brunt

[ninja_girl1]

glad he is ok... ;-)

[Mr Lefty]

glad he is ok... ;-)

I'm glad he's ok too... douche bag that he is

[marko138]

How did the gear hold up? Any tears?

[Mr Lefty]

burnt a couple holes in the A* cargo pants... jacket held up well... don't think the gloves touched... and the boots... you really can't tell.

granted I only slid about 5-10'

[OneSickPsycho]

As long as you didn't scrape your vagina.

[Mr Lefty]

nope... don't think so... but with all the sand in it... who knows where the scratches came from

[OneSickPsycho]

nope... don't think so... but with all the sand in it... who knows where the scratches came from

Sandy snail trail FTL.

[smileyman]

You might wanna 'splain to the folks how many pounds of crap you had riding on the pillion. Sport bikes wheelie at will with a passenger on the back and I image all your electronics, clothes, and camping equipment were at least that heavy. Add popping the clutch and yeah you could go over quick.:sorry:

Get the bike naked and fixed enough to ride safely and practice up on your stunting, then you can pretty it up again after you have mastered the wheely!

[OneSickPsycho]

Ebbs has so much sand in his vagina, he doesn't leave snail trails... he leaves sand castles.

[Mr Lefty]

You might wanna 'splain to the folks how many pounds of crap you had riding on the pillion. Sport bikes wheelie at will with a passenger on the back and I image all your electronics, clothes, and camping equipment were at least that heavy. Add popping the clutch and yeah you could go over quick.:sorry:

Get the bike naked and fixed enough to ride safely and practice up on your stunting, then you can pretty it up again after you have mastered the wheely!

True... that and I'm geared down quite a bit... but in the end it was me a lack in concentration that was the problem...


Ebbs has so much sand in his vagina, he doesn't leave snail trails... he leaves sand castles.

:lmao:

[smileyman]

Um geared down is an understatment..I know the 1 down/2 up formula is popular but that is a big difference from stock. I am running 15/45 on an original 15/43 bike and it is noticeable, so I am guessing your 14/45? That makes first gear like Stage One of a shuttle launch!

[Captain Morgan]

Didn't even think about all the stuff on the back. How did it fair? Laptop and everything ok?

[Mr Lefty]

yeah... it was a bit much... and damn... that sucked on the freeway and at the pump

Didn't even think about all the stuff on the back. How did it fair? Laptop and everything ok?

yeah everything is alright... using my laptop now actually

[Gunther1000]

Guess who?

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK00TE050256&po=256

[Mr Lefty]

Guess who?

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK00TE050256&po=256

yeah trip didn't want me showing him up so when we went by Killboy he made us stop and talk... :lol:

next year... NEXT YEAR...

[PhiSig1071]

Glad you're all right dude. I've had 7 get-offs in my riding career. None are fun, but you usually learn something from them.

[Mr Lefty]

Glad you're all right dude. I've had 7 get-offs in my riding career. None are fun, but you usually learn something from them.

yeah... I'm learning... quit trying to show off to the HS girls in the convertible next to you....




I mean... no laps in concentration! :lol:

[Gunther1000]

yeah trip didn't want me showing him up so when we went by Killboy he made us stop and talk... :lol:

next year... NEXT YEAR...

Ya know Nick must have those guys paid off or something. I was trying to post a pic of ebbs and chewy and everytime it goes right to him!

:idk:

[Mr Lefty]

Ya know Nick must have those guys paid off or something. I was trying to post a pic of ebbs and chewy and everytime it goes right to him!

:idk:

:lol:
damn... won't post anything when I try... damn you nick...
http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK00TE050256&po=256 http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=04RK00TE050256&po=256

[Trip]

looser

http://www.photoreflect.com/pr3/orderpage.aspx?pi=0HH600V5050253&po=253

[Amber Lamps]

so with out saying that your clutch slipped or anything like that what really happend, was it a true looped and over she went?

Sorry to hear about your mishap!

Oh and I think that the clutch lever slipped out of his hand and he looped his bike during an aggressive launch.

[Mr Lefty]

yup I was getting on it a bit harder than usual... but not harder than I've done before... it was pure lack of concentration and being too lackadaisical about it.

though I will say thank god for my gear... had I been wearing sneekers shorts and a t-shirt... I'd be in some serious pain right now... definite broken ankle... maybe a busted elbow... and lots of rash on my arm and knee

[PhiSig1071]

yeah... I'm learning... quit trying to show off to the HS girls in the convertible next to you....




I mean... no lapse in concentration! :lol:

Thankfully I haven't gone down for that reason. I had a too fast/gravel/target fixation lowside, hit by a car, speed/painted line highside, oil leak lowside, hit by another car, lowside in T1 at JGP, lowside in T10 JGP. First one was in '03, last one was two weeks ago sunday.

[Trip]

missing again

[Mr Lefty]

Thankfully I haven't gone down for that reason. I had a too fast/gravel/target fixation lowside, hit by a car, speed/painted line highside, oil leak lowside, hit by another car, lowside in T1 at JGP, lowside in T10 JGP. First one was in '03, last one was two weeks ago sunday.

missing again

yeah not sure what the issue is... but anyways...


Hope your alright Phi...


Just got the estimate today.... Drum roll please.. $6786.67 considering that's almost 2K more than I bought the bike for... or just 500 less then the run for new... I'm think'n they'll total it.

looks like I'll be looking for a new bike when I get to Mississippi.

[Crazy]

DAYUM. the pic that you posted didnt look that bad...

[Mr Lefty]

DAYUM. the pic that you posted didnt look that bad...

well the frame was scratched... the tank had a dent... the swing arm was scratched... every piece of fairing was gonna be replaced (already had scratches but they counted them anyways) and my rearsets were scratched as well as my pazzo levers... rearsets were 460 cause they couldn't get the exact ones... and the pazzo levers were 190...

[Trip]

yeah not sure what the issue is... but anyways...

server took a shit last night and anything posted during that time is lost.

[Mr Lefty]

server took a shit last night and anything posted during that time is lost.

huh... weird


working now though.

hey link me to the 09 RR you had

[NEW469]

Glad u alright man, goodspeed on the recovery.

[Mr Lefty]

I'm good... my ankle swelling has gone down alot... the anti inflammatory pills they gave me

[PhiSig1071]

Yeah, I've gotten banged up pretty good before (my first wreck got me a med discharge from the Army) but the last one wasn't bad, pretty mundane lowside, gear works!

[Mr Lefty]

yeah it does... had I not had my boots on... I'd be in a cast... 100% sure of that

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Sorry bout your wreck and its good that you can live to ride another day but dont let this discourage you from Wheeling. You just need to learn better throttle, clutch, and rear brake control. What damage was all done to this thing.... I saw you cracked your cover and rashed some plastics is that it.... I would just replace the cover and not even go through insurance it isnt worth having to pay surcharge for minor 1k- $1,500 damage.

[Mr Lefty]

if it was just that.. I'd still go through insurance... I've got full coverage and a $500 deductible... but the bike was totaled today... the frame was scratched, tank dented, every fairing scratched... swing arm scratched... fairing stay bent, headlight cracked... ect... 6786 worth of damage.

bike's only work 5K retail right now anyways.

[Dnyce]

if it was just that.. I'd still go through insurance... I've got full coverage and a $500 deductible... but the bike was totaled today... the frame was scratched, tank dented, every fairing scratched... swing arm scratched... fairing stay bent, headlight cracked... ect... 6786 worth of damage.

bike's only work 5K retail right now anyways.

scratched frame, lil dent on the tank, scratched swingarm.........sounds like a track bike

:whistle:

how much to buy it back?

[Mr Lefty]

don't know yet... thinking about that too... :idk:

[Dnyce]

don't know yet... thinking about that too... :idk:

would be a gd idea, depending on when u come back and where u are stationed at.

[Mr Lefty]

would be a gd idea, depending on when u come back and where u are stationed at.

I'll be in Mississippi and I'll be back in March...

[JoJoYZF]

Even if the buyback is cheap enough you could probably sell it for a little bit more to someone looking for a track bike if you cant afford to have two.

[Amber Lamps]

I'll be in Mississippi and I'll be back in March...


Mississippi? Yuck! Stay in Korea! j/k!

[Mr Lefty]

yeah I'm really thinking about that... 500-700 for race plastics.... and 90 for the case cover... and that's it! I could care less about the frame scratches... maybe I can get it for under 2g's...

Mississippi? Yuck! Stay in Korea! j/k!

:lol: I see you have a pic of my new backyard!

at least there's tracks there.... and year round riding

[Bassplayer]

sorry to hear about your wreck man. but glad to hear your alright. :dthumb:

[Mr Lefty]

sorry to hear about your wreck man. but glad to hear your alright. :dthumb:

by some of the pics looked like you had chewy on your mirror,
HOW'S CHEWY!? :lol:

oh Chewy and I parted ways in Indy... he cock blocked me from Rae... then took off with NtS before I could give him a beat down

[Amber Lamps]

yeah I'm really thinking about that... 500-700 for race plastics.... and 90 for the case cover... and that's it! I could care less about the frame scratches... maybe I can get it for under 2g's...



:lol: I see you have a pic of my new backyard!

at least there's tracks there.... and year round riding


Shit,Hotbodies offered me race plastic for $300 shipped. I'm telling you buy back FTW! You can get a Vortex/Woodcraft covers for under $300. When they give you the buy back figure,see if they'll take less. I got my '01 GSXR back for $150 from Nationwide. People tend to treat Insurance Companies as if they are doing us a favor by handling our claims but they are merely providing a service that we PAID for. You have to keep that in mind. The adjusters are paid to pay out as little as possible,you have to show that your bike was worth more or less in the case a of a buy back. Don't let them push you around buddy!

[Mr Lefty]

Shit,Hotbodies offered me race plastic for $300 shipped. I'm telling you buy back FTW! You can get a Vortex/Woodcraft covers for under $300. When they give you the buy back figure,see if they'll take less. I got my '01 GSXR back for $150 from Nationwide. People tend to treat Insurance Companies as if they are doing us a favor by handling our claims but they are merely providing a service that we PAID for. You have to keep that in mind. The adjusters are paid to pay out as little as possible,you have to show that your bike was worth more or less in the case a of a buy back. Don't let them push you around buddy!

oh I won't... they're paying me 1800 for all my gear... they were only going pay me for the helmet... but I fought that shit... and told them... look... either you can pay the 1100 for my gear or... pay for skin grafts the next time... :lol: can't believe they didn't call my bluff


and yes... I'm not gonna pay over 1700 to buy it back. but I'm not taking less than 5000 for it... unfortunately race plastics are hard to come by for my bike... I've looked before... and I don't know if woodcraft or vortex makes covers for my bike... unfortunately most don't.

I'd like to buy it back and track it... be awesome.

either way... I'm gonna get a 600rr or GSXR600 next leaning heavily towards the RR

[Cutty72]

hey hopalong, how's the ol ankle feeling today?

[Mr Lefty]

really well actually... anti-inflammatory's... FTW

[DLIT]

Shit,Hotbodies offered me race plastic for $300 shipped. I'm telling you buy back FTW! You can get a Vortex/Woodcraft covers for under $300. When they give you the buy back figure,see if they'll take less. I got my '01 GSXR back for $150 from Nationwide. People tend to treat Insurance Companies as if they are doing us a favor by handling our claims but they are merely providing a service that we PAID for. You have to keep that in mind. The adjusters are paid to pay out as little as possible,you have to show that your bike was worth more or less in the case a of a buy back. Don't let them push you around buddy!

Hotbodies are the worst track 'glass you can buy EVER.

[Smittie61984]

A little late and saw the myspace update.

What would be funny (To us not you) is if you did that in front of a cop and you had to tell him your finger really did slip off the clutch.

Glad you aren't too banged up. Now be a man and get a Busa.

[Mr Lefty]

A little late and saw the myspace update.

What would be funny (To us not you) is if you did that in front of a cop and you had to tell him your finger really did slip off the clutch.

Glad you aren't too banged up. Now be a man and get a Busa.

ACTUALLY when the cop showed up he tried to give me a ticket for wheelie'n... but the 4 guys standing around told him that I wasn't TRYING to wheelie... fuck'n stupid...

in the end he just gave me a lecture about how dangerous bikes are at which I interrupted and said just give me my case number...

[Amber Lamps]

Hotbodies are the worst track 'glass you can buy EVER.


Oh yea? Well let me introduce you to TARGA early 90s...:hangman: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I've heard bad things about HB as well. I think he was offering his shit cheap to clean up their reputation. Apparently,it was some new better made stuff,or so he claimed anyway.

[azoomm]

First of all... I can't believe I went through this entire thread and NOT ONE PICTURE?? *(^Q@#(^%)#

Glad you're relatively alright. But, if the ankle is still bothering you best have it checked out. Ankle injuries are the worst if they don't heal right :wink:

[Dnyce]

i thought the plastics were scratched up, not broken. why even buy track plastics?

[Amber Lamps]

i thought the plastics were scratched up, not broken. why even buy track plastics?

GOOD POINT!!! There's no law against street plastic on the track.... well,unless you race,then you need a "belly pan"...

[smileyman]

$6800??? I know you could buy an entire new ZZR for that. Don't sweat it, just go to the next bike and don't look back...My first bike went like that, $6400 out the door and 1000 miles later $3800 worth of damage. I had it repaired but there was always a ghost voice telling me it just wasn't right. I traded it off and never looked back!

[ceo012384]

I'm not reading all this shit... what is the deal with your bike Ebbs?

Very high damage estimate... only buy it back and track it if you don't plan to race. That bike would never be competitive in it's displacement class.

Otherwise you've got a track day machine for CHEAP and money in your pocket.

Probably want to get it measured up by a GMD computrack to check the frame/forks.
600. :lol: It's all about power delivery, guy.
Evidently it's all about getting around the track as slowly as possible.
Hotbodies ANYTHING are the worst ANYTHING you can buy EVER.
Fixed.

[Mr Lefty]

well yeah I don't plan on racing... I'd like to do track constantly... but who knows... not really sure... depends on what they say it's worth and how much I can buy it bike for.

[Mr Lefty]

So I got called back... they're offering me $5850 for the bike... I'll find out tomorrow that the buy back price is... hoping under $2000... but who knows.

but $5850 is a good number for me :D

[Smittie61984]

ACTUALLY when the cop showed up he tried to give me a ticket for wheelie'n... but the 4 guys standing around told him that I wasn't TRYING to wheelie... fuck'n stupid...

in the end he just gave me a lecture about how dangerous bikes are at which I interrupted and said just give me my case number...

You should have whipped out your dick and started peeing on him.

But trying to wheelie. That's like writing a ticket for drifting when a car hydroplanes.

[Mr Lefty]

was too busy think'n about how I was gonna make it the 800 miles to my 'rents house. but yeah I'm glad now... as I'd have probably said something stupid...

[DLIT]

Oh yea? Well let me introduce you to TARGA early 90s...:hangman: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW I've heard bad things about HB as well. I think he was offering his shit cheap to clean up their reputation. Apparently,it was some new better made stuff,or so he claimed anyway.

I live in the 2000's, bud.

[Mr Lefty]

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:

[JoJoYZF]

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:

Glad to see it should be working out pretty well for you. Just dont loop the next one.

[PiZdETS]

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:
Be one of the cool kids and buy a gsxr. We can wear oakleys and ride wheelies into school buses together.

[Cutty72]

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:

when do they come get the bike? I'll go strip it before then :D

[marko138]

well my title issue is solved... (wells fargo didn't send out my title when I paid it off a year ago)...

and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:
Probably a good choice. I always thought I wanted to keep my GSXR too...but the second I rode the new Buell...the GSXR was the last thing on my mind. I woulda never rode it again. But I was still a little sad to see it go.

[Mr Lefty]

when do they come get the bike? I'll go strip it before then :D
my dogs will maul you!

Probably a good choice. I always thought I wanted to keep my GSXR too...but the second I rode the new Buell...the GSXR was the last thing on my mind. I woulda never rode it again. But I was still a little sad to see it go.

yeah... I'm glad it'll be gone before I get back...

[smileyman]

No matter how prized or how pretty, no matter how many miles, how much maintenance, or how much loving attention has been lavished upon it. In the end they all go down the road....:sorry:

What is important is the pilot bails and lives to fight another day, wiser and better off from his experience.

[Mr Lefty]

No matter how prized or how pretty, no matter how many miles, how much maintenance, or how much loving attention has been lavished upon it. In the end they all go down the road....:sorry:

What is important is the pilot bails and lives to fight another day, wiser and better off from his experience.

TRUF!


and really... I enjoyed her while I had her...

[No Worries]

...and after talking it over with a few people... and some soul search'n... I think I'm just gonna say goodbye to my ZZR... I don't think I'd want to ride it much with a brand new bike in the stable. and really with the added bike payment... and house payment... who knows just HOW much track riding I'll be doing.

so looks like I've got 5850... err 4000 for a down payment on a bike... (pay back my dad)

COME ON HONDA let's see the 09 Colors already... :tt:

$4000? Don't waste it on a down payment. Time to get an all-around bike. Something used. Like a '98 or later ZX9. You can tour, race, commute, or canyon hop on it. Here on Craigslist, they give them away for around $3K. That's what I'd get.

[Cutty72]

my dogs will maul you!


max don't scare me :sniper:

[ceo012384]

$4000? Don't waste it on a down payment. Time to get an all-around bike. Something used. Like a '98 or later ZX9. You can tour, race, commute, or canyon hop on it. Here on Craigslist, they give them away for around $3K. That's what I'd get.
I swear no matter how much money you had, you would never buy anything newer than 10 years old :lol:

[No Worries]

I swear no matter how much money you had, you would never buy anything newer than 10 years old :lol:

Not true. I like the 2001-04 Gixxer 1000, any year Busa, ZX9's up to 02, R1's up to 05, any year RC51, 2004-on CBR1000, etc. But I really don't care for many of the newer bikes with super-high HP and lack of low and mid-range grunt. And with the way the economy is going, I'm just being pragmatic about buying used.

Why do I like old bikes? My CBR1000 only made 108 HP when new, equal to most 600's. But I can do full throttle from a stop on my old CBR1000 without worry of flipping it (sorry Ebbs). That means from 0-60, I can beat all the new, short wheelbase bikes (2.75 seconds for the CBR according to Cycle magazine, 1991). Check out the magazines if you don't believe me. And I could probably do that with a full load of groceries and beer in my saddle bags and tank bag. That mine has a better seat, bigger fairing, bigger gas tank, and a centerstand is just icing on the cake. The tonnage may be a problem for some, but there's no tracks around here anymore, so it doesn't bother me.

As for the ZX9, it is a fast, quick, comfortable, good handling superbike. Ebbs could take it anywhere in the country, and stay up with any newer bikes. Plus, I like green. And if Ebbs still has a place in his heart for Kawasaki, all he would need is liability insurance, and he could keep the extra money for speeding tickets.

Around 1998 or so, all the liter bikes went to the same size as 600's, but the ZX9 was still full-size until the end. That's important for some (big) people. When Sport Rider compared the Busa against the ZX9 in 99, the ZX was a full second quicker than the Busa 60-80 (could have been 80-100), but anyway, that's some power for an engine that's almost 400cc's less. Yes, I do like the ZX9.

[Mr Lefty]

I loved my year Kawi... and the ZX9 was always something I looked at... but honestly... I'm no where near needing or wanting a 1000cc bike... I like the 600's... and I'm very interested in checking out the track.

eventually I'd like to have a bigger bike for the long trips... the busa has crossed my mind... but that's a LONG way away... I'm still young... and still have my flexability... and still of the mindset part of the adventure is doing it on something people think you can't....

shit half the fun was the reactions I'd get when I told them where I rode from and they'd say... ON THAT!? ... one of my brothers friends actually asked me if I hated my "taint" :lmao:

in reality... my ZZR wasn't uncomfortable at all... I could have easily spent another 30 days doing the TWFix US tour. that is if $ and time allowed. oh... and if I wasn't a jackass and decide to be johnny squid in Indiana.

[Rider]

Go ahead, get a GSXR 750... It's literally a 600 with the motor punched out 25% bigger. :dthumb:

[marko138]

Not true. I like the 2001-04 Gixxer 1000, any year Busa, ZX9's up to 02, R1's up to 05, any year RC51, 2004-on CBR1000, etc. But I really don't care for many of the newer bikes with super-high HP and lack of low and mid-range grunt. And with the way the economy is going, I'm just being pragmatic about buying used.

Why do I like old bikes? My CBR1000 only made 108 HP when new, equal to most 600's. But I can do full throttle from a stop on my old CBR1000 without worry of flipping it (sorry Ebbs). That means from 0-60, I can beat all the new, short wheelbase bikes (2.75 seconds for the CBR according to Cycle magazine, 1991). Check out the magazines if you don't believe me. And I could probably do that with a full load of groceries and beer in my saddle bags and tank bag. That mine has a better seat, bigger fairing, bigger gas tank, and a centerstand is just icing on the cake. The tonnage may be a problem for some, but there's no tracks around here anymore, so it doesn't bother me.

As for the ZX9, it is a fast, quick, comfortable, good handling superbike. Ebbs could take it anywhere in the country, and stay up with any newer bikes. Plus, I like green. And if Ebbs still has a place in his heart for Kawasaki, all he would need is liability insurance, and he could keep the extra money for speeding tickets.

Around 1998 or so, all the liter bikes went to the same size as 600's, but the ZX9 was still full-size until the end. That's important for some (big) people. When Sport Rider compared the Busa against the ZX9 in 99, the ZX was a full second quicker than the Busa 60-80 (could have been 80-100), but anyway, that's some power for an engine that's almost 400cc's less. Yes, I do like the ZX9.


I like your style.

[Dave]

Go ahead, get a GSXR 750... It's literally a 600 with the motor punched out 25% bigger. :dthumb:

and most 900s are literally punched out 750s :whistle: prob goes to explain why my bike redlines at 12k. really curious what the rod ratio is. anyway mister ebbs i agree with no worries. a used zx9 would be an awesome addition and dont count em out too soon. bigger bikes are seriously easier to ride down low. no need to rape the throttle

[DLIT]

$4000? Don't waste it on a down payment. Time to get an all-around bike. Something used. Like a '98 or later ZX9. You can tour, race, commute, or canyon hop on it. Here on Craigslist, they give them away for around $3K. That's what I'd get.

Why the hell would anybody want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that? Lemme rephrase...Why would any 20-something-year-older want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that and put out way more hp?

[Cutty72]

Why the hell would anybody want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that? Lemme rephrase...Why would any 20-something-year-older want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that and put out way more hp?

Cause not everyone is a track slut like you... :idk:

[DLIT]

Cause not everyone is a track slut like you... :idk:

Wrong, dumb answer. It's not about me. It's because they're like computers...they get outdated. Less appealing to the younger crowd. No Worries is just stuck in his old ways, just like I'll probably be 15-20 years from now. Hell, I'm getting that way already with music. I barely like anything new, especially hip-hop. All that shit is garbage now.

[Mr Lefty]

Dlit... his answer to your question is in the post you quoted... that zx9 is gonna be more comfortable for cruising, touring, and a bit more stable as it's heavier.

but really... I just don't want a 1000cc... and as much as I loved my ZZR600... I don't want another... I would like to try a new 600...

I'm still dumb enough to try touring on it... but I'd like something a bit newer...

[Cutty72]

I say it depends more on the 20something in question.
One that was raised that always had money and therefore the latest and greatest growing up, will probalby still prefer the newest.
Those that had enough to just get by will look more toward the economics and usability of the item, rather than if it is the "best thing out there"
This is not always the case, and maybe it's just where/how I've been raised too. :idk:

[DLIT]

I'll chock it up to different strokes for different folks. The older, heavier bikes looks-wise and specs-wise just can't compare to the newer bikes. And I'm not just talking about sportbikes.

Dlit... his answer to your question is in the post you quoted... that zx9 is gonna be more comfortable for cruising, touring, and a bit more stable as it's heavier.

but really... I just don't want a 1000cc... and as much as I loved my ZZR600... I don't want another... I would like to try a new 600...

I'm still dumb enough to try touring on it... but I'd like something a bit newer...

They don't make bikes that are stable and comfortable anymore? Just as stable and comfortable but without the outdated looks.

[Mr Lefty]

I'll chock it up to different strokes for different folks. The older, heavier bikes looks-wise and specs-wise just can't compare to the newer bikes. And I'm not just talking about sportbikes.



They don't make bikes that are stable and comfortable anymore? Just as stable and comfortable but without the outdated looks.

well not that they're not stable... but with shorter wheel bases and lighter weight... they're less stable in wind.

and as far as comfort... sorry... but the new bikes just aren't as comfy as the old... with the more relaxed ergos and thicker seats... when they were street first... track a distant second

[DLIT]

well not that they're not stable... but with shorter wheel bases and lighter weight... they're less stable in wind.

and as far as comfort... sorry... but the new bikes just aren't as comfy as the old... with the more relaxed ergos and thicker seats... when they were street first... track a distant second

I'm not talking about just sportbikes. The ergos of the old sportbikes are pretty much the same as a sport-tourer nowadays.

And most important on the newer bikes...FUEL INJECTED!

[Sixxxxer]

I'm not gonna lie, I'd probably wanna Rip my Hands off if I rode my Zx6 as far as Ebbs rode his ZZR...The Ergo's on Streetbikes are no match for a Cruiser or Sport Tourer.

[Mr Lefty]

I'm not talking about just sportbikes. The ergos of the old sportbikes are pretty much the same as a sport-tourer nowadays.

And most important on the newer bikes...FUEL INJECTED!

My bike was Carbed... and NEVER had an issue with it... even in Early may in AK(which is VERY EARLY SPRING for AK) 30* mornings... bike took 2 times to crank over... granted it needed a bit of choke but I set it then turned it down as the bike warmed up.

and I see what your saying... but when these motors can easily run 2-3x longer than most will see with proper maintenance then why spend double the money just for a newer bike?

it comes down to preference... I'm torn between the two... I don't like assuming others issues, but don't like taking the big hit on $ of buying a new bike. I'm the same with cars... though I know how to work on my Truck inside and out... so I'll buy a Toyota pickup in the worst condition if it's a deal. bikes... not so much. so I'm leaning towards new.

[Mr Lefty]

I'm not gonna lie, I'd probably wanna Rip my Hands off if I rode my Zx6 as far as Ebbs rode his ZZR...The Ergo's on Streetbikes are no match for a Cruiser or Sport Tourer.

I dunno... Kat rode 2000 in 5 days... Rae rode up from and down to FL on hers... they both have very new model 600's...

The key to my trip was days of rest. I always had 1 day between trips to relax. didn't plan that at first... but I cut some "fat" from my route... and was rewarded with a few more days before Indy.

I did have a couple long routes... AR to Rae... 904 miles (cause I got turned around for 50+ miles thanks to GPS fuck'n up in MS) and Dayton to ND 1095 miles but ended up being 200+ miles as my bike decided it had enough miles for that month.

[Sixxxxer]

Rae and Kat are Smaller than Me, Any Streetbike I sit on is GOnna feel Different than it would for Those two...I'm not saying I wouldn't take the Six for a Long Ride...I'd be all for it...I would just have to do a few things to it first for some comfort Mods.

[Mr Lefty]

yeah just get a tank bag to lean on at times, and an Air Hawk seat pad... I let drewpy use it on his trip with OSP earlier this year... FUCKING AWESOME if you do long trip in the saddle. its $125 or so... but so fucking worth it. but you can't ride aggressively with it... as it grips your ass and won't let you slide off

[dReWpY]

yeah just get a tank bag to lean on at times, and an Air Hawk seat pad... I let drewpy use it on his trip with OSP earlier this year... FUCKING AWESOME if you do long trip in the saddle. its $125 or so... but so fucking worth it. but you can't ride aggressively with it... as it grips your ass and won't let you slide off

i dragged a knee with it... fully loaded tail, tank and saddle bags and all:whistle: it can be done:panic:

[Mr Lefty]

i dragged a knee with it... fully loaded tail, tank and saddle bags and all:whistle: it can be done:panic:

well you were the one that told me that! I never really tried... then again... I can't drag a knee anyhow :lol:

[the chi]

Rae and Kat are Smaller than Me, Any Streetbike I sit on is GOnna feel Different than it would for Those two...I'm not saying I wouldn't take the Six for a Long Ride...I'd be all for it...I would just have to do a few things to it first for some comfort Mods.

Ur right and that does make a big difference! With my size I can rest my head on my tank bag when riding, as well as shift around. I got a pro gel seat pad for the trip too, took awhile to break in, but after about 1000-1500 miles it was comfortable enough that the wear on my body was much less, seat wise anyway.

Any trips you begin taking on bikes like that are a bit of a body adjustment thing. Ive taken enough long rides, and done enough all day rides to acclimate myself for a long time in the saddle as well as lil tricks I use to spare certain body parts..."spider monkeyin"! :wink:

[Mr Lefty]

Ur right and that does make a big difference! With my size I can rest my head on my tank bag when riding, as well as shift around. I got a pro gel seat pad for the trip too, took awhile to break in, but after about 1000-1500 miles it was comfortable enough that the wear on my body was much less, seat wise anyway.

Any trips you begin taking on bikes like that are a bit of a body adjustment thing. Ive taken enough long rides, and done enough all day rides to acclimate myself for a long time in the saddle as well as lil tricks I use to spare certain body parts..."spider monkeyin"! :wink:

:lol: i remember thinking... wtf is she doing? drag'n a knee on a straight stretch of freeway?

[dReWpY]

i can only imagine what i looked like haning off my bike, just trying to stretch out on the Co trip

[smileyman]

Ah the joys of a good "spider monkeying"! To be young and flexible again!:drool:

[Mr Lefty]

Ah the joys of a good "spider monkeying"! To be young and flexible again!:drool:

:lol: ahh to be following her and thinking the same thing :lol:

[No Worries]

Why the hell would anybody want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that? Lemme rephrase...Why would any 20-something-year-older want to get a 600lbs bike when there's bikes out there that weight 2/3rds that and put out way more hp?

The 1998 R1 weighed 448 lbs (wet). The 2008 RR weighs 439 lbs (wet). When I was in my 20's all my friends wanted to wheelie. They had H1's, H2's, and RD's. Great wheelie machines, while I had a GT750, great for everything but wheelies. The twenty-somethings I see today still want to wheelie. Going downhill and in third gear no less.

...No Worries is just stuck in his old ways, just like I'll probably be 15-20 years from now. Hell, I'm getting that way already with music. I barely like anything new, especially hip-hop. All that shit is garbage now.

That makes me appear like a Luddite. I may be. Last year, I did a demo on a Aprilia Tuono Factory. I had read so many great things about it. I expected it to be so much better than my old bikes. The brakes were stellar, but the bike stumbled away from each light, the seat was unbearable, the riding position gave me cramps, and the mirrors were useless. I didn't test it for wheelies, but after twenty minutes, I couldn't wait to get on my big, heavy bike. As for Hip-hop, I didn't think anything could be as bad as Disco, but I stand corrected.

Dlit... his answer to your question is in the post you quoted... that zx9 is gonna be more comfortable for cruising, touring, and a bit more stable as it's heavier.

but really... I just don't want a 1000cc... and as much as I loved my ZZR600... I don't want another... I would like to try a new 600...

I'm still dumb enough to try touring on it... but I'd like something a bit newer...

At Denver's altitude, any bike has already lost 10 percent power. If you go in the mountains, you lose another 10 percent or more. If you go up Mount Evans, you probably lose 50 percent. That's why I like liter bikes.

And I'll tell you a secret. You can blast around the canyons here on any bike. Brand new R6 or 35-year-old RD. Half of the curves around here are blind. Do you want to go around a blind corner at full speed? The main reason I like a liter bike is for passing a vehicle. This is where horsepower doesn't mean shit. I need torque, tons of it, and at low rpm. Especially going uphill. There aren't many straights on the roads I go on, so I need to get around a car in several seconds or less. Plus brake and lean for the next curve. God, I love it here.

[Mr Lefty]

And I'll tell you a secret. You can blast around the canyons here on any bike. Brand new R6 or 35-year-old RD. Half of the curves around here are blind. Do you want to go around a blind corner at full speed? The main reason I like a liter bike is for passing a vehicle. This is where horsepower doesn't mean shit. I need torque, tons of it, and at low rpm. Especially going uphill. There aren't many straights on the roads I go on, so I need to get around a car in several seconds or less. Plus brake and lean for the next curve. God, I love it here.

I hear what your saying... and I had this exact conversation with a friend of Rae's... actually he's a member here...

but any idiot can ride a liter bike fast... just twist the wrist... the torque is gonna get you up to speed quick...

a 600 takes more skill to ride fast as it doesn't have that torque or power to cover your mistakes. I'd rather learn how to ride the 600 right... then possible (probably not though) move up to a 1000 where I can apply that technique. ya know?

not saying every liter bike riders are all idiots... just that I wanna learn what I can from the 600 before (if ever) I move up

[Cutty72]

And I'll tell you a secret. You can blast around the canyons here on any bike. Brand new R6 or 35-year-old RD. Half of the curves around here are blind. Do you want to go around a blind corner at full speed? The main reason I like a liter bike is for passing a vehicle. This is where horsepower doesn't mean shit. I need torque, tons of it, and at low rpm. Especially going uphill. There aren't many straights on the roads I go on, so I need to get around a car in several seconds or less. Plus brake and lean for the next curve. God, I love it here.

V-twin FTW :rockwoot:

[Dave]

im always monkying the bike lol

[PhiSig1071]

I'd have more fun blasting around a twisty mountain road on a 35 yeard old RD350 than I would a brand new GSXR. Of course my SuMo would probably be more fun that either, plus a hooker.

[Amber Lamps]

I'd have more fun blasting around a twisty mountain road on a 35 yeard old RD350 than I would a brand new GSXR. Of course my SuMo would probably be more fun that either, plus a hooker.

Well maybe you would but I owned a RZ350 and the power band was as thin as a cunt hair. The tires weren't radial,the suspension was weak,the brakes made suggestions to the speed of the bike and sent feedback by Pony Express.

As I've mentioned before,I LOVED MY V-MAX!!! But to look back with nostalgia colored glasses and state that it's a "better" bike or more "fun" than my GSXR.....:sorry: