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Winta
09-18-2008, 11:28 PM
First off, my introduction post: http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?p=71951

Well; I am just about finishing my MC driver license and will need a bike as soon as I am finish Money isnt really a problem, my limited driver skills proberly is however

I have been thinking about: honda vfr 800 for quite some time now, the looks and the ABS is a real front speaker for this one

Lately I have really fallen in love with: KTM 1190 RC8, but there is no way a newbie could drive that monster is there? or should..

I have also been thinking about GSX-r 750, but there is no ABS on that one, right?

Thanks for the help guys, and great forum you got here

Mrs. Colleen
09-18-2008, 11:34 PM
600cc or less.

Used.

Wear your gear...all of it.

Now that that is out of the way...:welcome:

Cutty72
09-18-2008, 11:36 PM
600cc or less.

Used.

Wear your gear...all of it.

Now that that is out of the way...:welcome:

she speaketh the truth.

and :welcome:

:twfix:

Dnyce
09-18-2008, 11:39 PM
seriously, theres all your answers hahaha
welcome

Winta
09-18-2008, 11:39 PM
I would never go without my gear :) My mom told me to buy the best gear I could get, so I did. Will probably post some pictures.

isnt 600 a little not enough? thats waht we are driving at the school, but its a little slow? :/

Frank Thomas:
XT1 Trousers
XT1 Jacket
XT1 Sports Glove

Shoi:
XR-1000 Cryptic TC-1

Cutty72
09-18-2008, 11:43 PM
every 600 i've seen will do 100++ mph. that's not slow in my book.

I started on an SV650S, and it was more than enough. It's real easy to get yourself into trouble even when you KNOW what you are doing and how to handle it. Even moreso when you don't have a clue.

And if you think a 600 is too small, not enough power, look at Ebbs. his 600 with "outdated" technology still managed to loop it, even with a somewhat experienced rider on board.

my .02

Dnyce
09-18-2008, 11:44 PM
isnt 600 a little not enough? thats waht we are driving at the school, but its a little slow? :/


lol doubt it.
well....depends on what kinda 600. a 600 cruiser, and a 600 sportbike are two different beasts. if u want a sportbike, then a 600 is plenty quick.

Mrs. Colleen
09-18-2008, 11:46 PM
My 92 600 is "slow" compared to the new 600 sportbikes out there...and I could still quickly get myself into trouble quickly! Newer ones are plenty fast! :cheers:

Dnyce
09-18-2008, 11:46 PM
every 600 i've seen will do 100++ mph. that's not slow in my book.



in 3rd gear



And if you think a 600 is too small, not enough power, look at Ebbs. his 600 with "outdated" technology still managed to loop it, even with a somewhat experienced rider on board.


hahaha

dReWpY
09-18-2008, 11:47 PM
get a busa, plenty fast enough, if its not enough, they make supercharged headlight fluid that will bump you up atleast 80+ hp

Dnyce
09-18-2008, 11:49 PM
post matches sig :lol:

dReWpY
09-18-2008, 11:51 PM
that is a direct quote from ebbs about ebbs

Dnyce
09-18-2008, 11:52 PM
i know, but it matches your post

PiZdETS
09-19-2008, 12:33 AM
600 Inline 4's go 170 mph these days. Almost 280 kph I believe and they all do 0-60 in under 4 seconds, nothing slow about them.

Someone link this dude to some OTB goodness.

edit; damn did you pay to get a premium membership at twowheelforum? I feel bad for you, that place is deader than Bernie Mac.

check out this thread (http://www.twowheelforum.com/showthread.php?t=16001)NTS made over there with a lot of good info in it.

BobTheBiker
09-19-2008, 01:34 AM
I would recommend a 250, and NO a 250 sportbike isnt really "slow" but its not the fastest out there. then again, speed is the very last thing you want in a first bike. start small on a little bike, learn how to ride the piss out of it, THEN move up to a larger faster bike.

Myself I started on an EX500, and took 2 years of riding them to feel comfortable enough to move to a 600. trust me, even 1987 600cc bikes are damned fast machines, I know mine will do all of 75-80 in 3rd.

david129
09-19-2008, 03:02 AM
I would recommend a 250, and NO a 250 sportbike isnt really "slow" but its not the fastest out there. then again, speed is the very last thing you want in a first bike. start small on a little bike, learn how to ride the piss out of it, THEN move up to a larger faster bike.

Myself I started on an EX500, and took 2 years of riding them to feel comfortable enough to move to a 600. trust me, even 1987 600cc bikes are damned fast machines, I know mine will do all of 75-80 in 3rd.

I'd also recommend a 250 for a beginner ... Kawasaki Ninja 250 will do 105-110 mph top speed and is a *great* beginner bike. I did a 1600+ mile round-trip ride on mine, then relocated to Deals Gap area (@800 miles one way) on the same bike.

I currently have a 2005 cbr600 sportbike, which will hit 150+mph, but I'm currently also having a blast on a little Honda CRF230 dual-sport ... I miss my Ninja 250 :)

BobTheBiker
09-19-2008, 06:33 AM
the 250 is one of the "less is more" kinds of bikes. less displacement=more learning how to use that displacement to the fullest.

Trip
09-19-2008, 09:09 AM
I loved my sv650s, taught me a lot when i learned to ride.

Gunther1000
09-19-2008, 10:35 AM
I started on a CBR 1000 in 96 and bought a GSX-R 1000 in 2001. No problems really even for a hot head like me who loves speed... BUT

If I could buy any bike for a newbie today it would hands down be the new 08 and up Ninja 250. That will be the coolest bike for you to learn on looks wise if your concerned with that as most new riders are and with a pipe they sound great! For $3500 new you cant beat them! Then you can always keep it when you upgrade to have a bike for your buddies to test the waters on.

But buy what you want and just learn to respect its power no matter what it is.

Your biggest problem will more than likely be others out on the road in cars trying there best to kill you.

And remember to not put your whole body weight on the bars. that is the fastest way to wash out the front in any turn.

Good luck!

Mr Lefty
09-19-2008, 10:55 AM
<600... TRUST me... they have more than enough power for you when your learning... and as I know recently first hand... a 600 will bite you in the ass if your not paying attention 100% of the time when your learning.

Gunther1000
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm telling ya, This is just what you need!

http://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/846175360.html

And yes I am a craigslist Whore.

Those should be pretty easy to fing just about everywhere this fall.

I personally would like to find a Black one. Or one that was been crashed.

Crazy
09-19-2008, 04:24 PM
how old are you?

ditto to what everyone else is saying, 250, 650, older 600.

BobTheBiker
09-19-2008, 08:53 PM
for a first timer, I wouldnt even endorse a 600 ANYTHING. my 87 despite being a little down on power, feels strong enough to EASILY put one on their ass without trying. start small or not at all if you want to learn SAFELY how to ride.

Mr Lefty
09-20-2008, 12:56 PM
for a first timer, I wouldnt even endorse a 600 ANYTHING. my 87 despite being a little down on power, feels strong enough to EASILY put one on their ass without trying. start small or not at all if you want to learn SAFELY how to ride.

yeah my 05 (02 tech) whipped me back pretty quick when I let my concentration laps for a second

OTB
09-20-2008, 02:43 PM
Yes...yes...Buy the RC8!!! Where do you live so I can plan a trip to buy it offn ya cheap.......


I feel so funny on this board now....when I started on the other board, I felt like a lone voice in the forest....

Now so many of you have years and miles under your belts... and the experience and wisdom that goes with it.

Ya'll make me proud. ('Cept for some of the wierd sexual group stuff a few of you folks are into....):nono::bump::jd::maygin::sandyvag::D

BobTheBiker
09-20-2008, 05:14 PM
What can I say? we've spent some time in the saddle and learned a few things over the course of a few thousand miles or more and maybe a crash or two...

wisdom only comes from experience. I believe someone once said that to be old(er) and wise, you must first be young and dumb to gain that wisdom and age.

No Worries
09-20-2008, 06:23 PM
I started on a CBR 1000 in 96 and bought a GSX-R 1000 in 2001.

There's a downgrade. Smaller fairing, uncomfortable seat, less mass, fuel injection, no centerstand, yuck.

Dnyce
09-20-2008, 06:36 PM
There's a downgrade. Smaller fairing, uncomfortable seat, less mass, fuel injection, no centerstand, yuck.

:lol:

BobTheBiker
09-20-2008, 06:50 PM
There's a downgrade. Smaller fairing, uncomfortable seat, less mass, fuel injection, no centerstand, yuck.

I have to agree. your CBR 1000 was built for long distance comfort AND performance. looking at the stats, its only like half a second off from an 05 or so 1000RR in the 1/4 mile, but WAY more comforting for those longer rides. I'll take the 1000F over any newer 1000 any day.

Winta
09-21-2008, 04:01 AM
edit; damn did you pay to get a premium membership at twowheelforum? I feel bad for you, that place is deader than Bernie Mac.



YEar well; I like to support good sites when I see one, have a few sites myself and love it when ppl support it :) Just was a little slow at finding out how dead it was, and that this was the one I should support instead :)

I know you all say 600, but what about this one:
750 SS Supersport (1994)

I got a very good price on it.. And I think it is a VERY beatifull bike :)


And thank you all for the answers, damn many ;)

No Worries
09-21-2008, 11:47 AM
If you have to have a 750, Honda's VFR750 was rated the best from about 1987 to 1997.

t-homo
09-21-2008, 12:54 PM
Shit. Even OTB is makin gay jokes now.

Gunther1000
09-22-2008, 10:24 AM
I have to agree. your CBR 1000 was built for long distance comfort AND performance. looking at the stats, its only like half a second off from an 05 or so 1000RR in the 1/4 mile, but WAY more comforting for those longer rides. I'll take the 1000F over any newer 1000 any day.

Butch where in my Honda?

"I had to crash that Honda Baby..."

Nice Chopper, Who is Zed?

marko138
09-22-2008, 10:47 AM
Butch where in my Honda?

"I had to crash that Honda Baby..."

Nice Chopper, Who is Zed?
Classic.

r!der
09-22-2008, 11:59 AM
You really think a 600 is slow? REALLY?

Bassplayer
09-22-2008, 12:40 PM
Hey welcome to the site bro,

realistically new riders should stay with less than 600cc bikes. More than enough power for beginner.

aka...
Kawi ninja 250/500
Kawi 650
Suzuki SV650
Suzuki GSXR 600
Honda CBR 600

check those out...BUY USED... that way WHEN (not if) you drop it is not as devastating as a new bike!

Good luck bro. :dthumb::twfix:

Smittie61984
09-27-2008, 10:21 AM
isnt 600 a little not enough? thats waht we are driving at the school, but its a little slow? :/


On my 1996 Honda CBR600 F3 with 50,000 miles I ran it to 155mph in 5th gear with it pulling just fine but I let off because I didn't really want to go faster. It was dynoed at 77hp and is running very very rich.

New 600s will eat my bike alive.

So here is 77hp with a 230lb person on it and a bike that probably weighs 50lbs more than new bikes on top of much worse aerodynamics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UffB6Yt6aR8
In the part with the blinker when I let off it's around 95mph.

I also had a 1994 Yamaha SecaII that I ran to 135mph and it was a joke of a bike.

Trust me. If you ever get bored with the power of the bike go hit some mountains up.