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Rider
10-07-2008, 01:42 PM
Ok I'm almost at 3K miles on the Gixxer and now want to switch to full synthetic on my next oil change which will be this weekend.
The question is, can I just drain the dino oil(OEM Suzuki brand) and add the synthetic or do I need to "flush" the engine by running a semi systheic first for a few hundred miles, then switch to the full synthetic?
I know it's a newb question but I never ran a full synthetic on my last bike, so I'm not sure how to properly make the switch.
drain and switch, no need to flush.
PhiSig1071
10-07-2008, 01:58 PM
Yep, what he said. Most modern dino oils and synthetics will swap without any real issue. I use Mobil 1 in the KTM and Castrol R4 Superbike in the GSXR. Had good success with both.
Rider
10-07-2008, 02:13 PM
I'm probably going with Amsoil. Not sure yet. It's nice to that the GSXR only takes 2600ML. The Kawi took a full 4 liters. I keep hearing good things about Shell Rotella but I am a little hesitant to buy anything from Wally World.
PhiSig1071
10-07-2008, 02:16 PM
I'm probably going with Amsoil. Not sure yet. It's nice to that the GSXR only takes 2600ML. The Kawi took a full 4 liters. I keep hearing good things about Shell Rotella but I am a little hesitant to buy anything from Wally World.
There is a Rotella T that works well, my dad uses it in his Kawasaki Concours that has 30k miles on it. You just have to make sure that it does not have "friction modifiers" in it, usually molybendium, because it binds to clutch plates and causes them to slip.
marko138
10-07-2008, 04:04 PM
Switch away. I have Amsoil in the Buell right now. Noticed dramatic improvements over the Harley syth (manufactured by Sunoco).
I'll probly put Mobil1 in it next time b/c it's cheaper and more readily available. And just as good.
Rider
10-07-2008, 04:07 PM
Switch away. I have Amsoil in the Buell right now. Noticed dramatic improvements over the Harley syth (manufactured by Sunoco).
I'll probly put Mobil1 in it next time b/c it's cheaper and more readily available. And just as good.
Cheaper? What is Mobil1 per liter?
marko138
10-07-2008, 04:08 PM
Around here M1 is 8 bucks a qt. I paid 12 per qt for Ams.
Rider
10-07-2008, 04:10 PM
Around here M1 is 8 bucks a qt. I paid 12 per qt for Ams.
Ams M/C is $10.95 at Napa.
marko138
10-07-2008, 04:11 PM
Ams M/C is $10.95 at Napa.
I should check there. I bought mine at the only place I know that has it. The Ducati dealer.
At I need 4 quarts of that shit. So I'm dropping 50 ducketts on this at a time.
ontwo
10-07-2008, 04:26 PM
I'm loving the Rotella T full syn in the Bonnie
PhiSig1071
10-07-2008, 05:16 PM
I'm lucky, as a ridercoach I get 30% off everything at Cycle Gear!
6doublefive321
10-07-2008, 08:59 PM
This horse has been beat to death in an infinite number of forums, but here goes.....
If you plan on changing your oil as Zuk recommends, don't waste your money on the synthetic stuff. If you want to go further per oil change and not risk your ride, use the synthetic. When the oils are fresh, there isn't a hell of a lot of difference between dino and synthetic. However, as they gain miles, the synthetics have fewer impurities, and thus work better longer. In my opinion, if you plan on changing your oil every two or three thousand miles, you are pissing away money on synthetics.
Back on topic, no flush required. Just drain and change.
me and the blade love repsol
Gas Man
10-08-2008, 03:12 AM
Mobil 1 in my S&S 117 CI... its only a $15k motor!!
Take it for what its worth
Dnyce
10-08-2008, 03:48 AM
Mobil 1 in my S&S 117 CI... its only a $15k motor!!
Take it for what its worth
mobil 1 dino or synth? cant tell if you're bein sarcastic or serious lol
the mark-up on those engines is fuckin ridiculous, btw.
Gas Man
10-08-2008, 05:13 AM
synth... that is the only thing that "mobil 1" is.
And you're right... I figure its a $13k-$14k motor stock, and with the cam, springs, and roller rockers, and rocker boxes... I got at least $15k on the motor alone, with nothing on the either head ports.
Rider
10-08-2008, 08:18 AM
I picked up some Amsoil 10W40 at the dealer last night. $9.25 a quart of full synthetic is hard to pass up.
marko138
10-08-2008, 08:40 AM
me and the blade love repsol
I had Repsol in my Zuk. I thought it made the engine noisy. Agree or disagree?
Cutty72
10-09-2008, 12:27 AM
dumped SYN-3 HD synthetic in the 1125 on the last change.
:idk: guess I didn't really notice a difference, but I wasn't looking for one either...
Dnyce
10-09-2008, 01:33 AM
synth... that is the only thing that "mobil 1" is.
And you're right... I figure its a $13k-$14k motor stock, and with the cam, springs, and roller rockers, and rocker boxes... I got at least $15k on the motor alone, with nothing on the either head ports.
13-14 stock is the part that gets me lol, way over-priced.
my mistake, always thought of mobil 1 as the company, never realized it was just "mobil" and mobil 1 is their synth. but i dont use mobil anyway. i use valvoline racing dino stuff. but i change the oil way more than any1 one here. so synth would be a total waste 4me.
jeeps84
10-09-2008, 02:03 AM
13-14 stock is the part that gets me lol, way over-priced.
my mistake, always thought of mobil 1 as the company, never realized it was just "mobil" and mobil 1 is their synth. but i dont use mobil anyway. i use valvoline racing dino stuff. but i change the oil way more than any1 one here. so synth would be a total waste 4me.
If you have the time and $$$. Go for it.
Dnyce
10-09-2008, 02:37 AM
If you have the time and $$$. Go for it.
if i had the money, ill find the time lol
100bucks an oil change every 2months is rediculous
jeeps84
10-09-2008, 02:45 AM
if i had the money, ill find the time lol
100bucks an oil change every 2months is rediculous
Unless your riding 5 thousand a month. Stop doing it.
Dnyce
10-09-2008, 04:20 AM
Unless your riding 5 thousand a month. Stop doing it.
never started. thats what it would be if i used synth, which i dont.
thats for two bikes, by the way. more like three months, not two. my mistake. about 2thousand a month on one bike, other bike gets raced. dinos been workn for me so far
marko138
10-09-2008, 08:36 AM
dumped SYN-3 HD synthetic in the 1125 on the last change.
:idk: guess I didn't really notice a difference, but I wasn't looking for one either...
Get rid of that crap and put a good sythetic in that Buell.
Cutty72
10-10-2008, 12:28 PM
Get rid of that crap and put a good sythetic in that Buell.
I got a case of it on sale for $5/qt. tough to pass up that for synth.
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