Hey Drewp, bouncer of doom, look what you missed! [Archive]

FT BSTRD

10-07-2008, 10:30 PM

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ceo012384

10-07-2008, 10:32 PM

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You can find this in the dictionary under "crossed up"

PhiSig1071

10-07-2008, 10:40 PM

Damn! Tall dude on the Uly!

FT BSTRD

10-07-2008, 10:46 PM

You can find this in the dictionary under "crossed up"

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/buelltoberfest2008/normal_Buelltoberfest_2008_10_05_1280_010.JPG

Looks worse in that picture than it really is.

Damn! Tall dude on the Uly!

Big goofy bastard!

Gunther1000

10-08-2008, 12:30 PM

That comes from wanting SOOOO BADLY to get your knee on the ground so your friend with the camera will suck you off...:idk:

r!der

10-08-2008, 12:55 PM

Uggggh....mohawk on a icon helmet, trying hard to drag on a public road with sparkie shit on your knee...I'm surprised you're not on a gixxer.

Take it to the track!

Gunther1000

10-08-2008, 01:00 PM

Nah, its perfectly non squidly! He's on a buell DUDE! Those things Rock! Fuck Ya!

You can do what ever you want where ever you want if your of the right crowd. :idk:

r!der

10-08-2008, 01:15 PM

HAHA I was just busting balls and messing around about the bike not being a GIXXER. All I'm saying is, if your looking to improve and ride the bike the way its meant to be ridden (wait, it's a buell...Nevermind..........HAHA J/K again!) there's no better place than a track.

"You can do what ever you want where ever you want if your of the right crowd. :idk:"

Not sure what you meant by that. :idk:

Gunther1000

10-08-2008, 01:49 PM

I mean its a Biker gang! They do what the fuck they want right? No holds barred kinda biker gang. like they are on T.V.

r!der

10-08-2008, 02:01 PM

Speaking of motorcycle gangs.

I encountered crazy traffic on my way to work this morning, come to find out it was because of a shooting. They think it "might" be gang related.

Motorcyclist shot on freeway in Glendale
Daily News Wire Services
Article Last Updated: 10/08/2008 06:32:42 AM PDT

GLENDALE - A motorcyclist was shot and killed on a freeway connector road in Glendale today, resulting in freeway closures coinciding with the morning commute, authorities said.

The man was shot around 2 a.m. while riding his motorcycle on the connector road linking the eastbound Foothill (210) Freeway to the southbound Glendale (2) Freeway, said Sgt. Tom Lorenz of the Glendale Police Department.

Firefighters along with California Highway Patrol officers at the scene discovered the motorcycle in the bushes alongside the connector road and its deceased rider nearby, an On Scene Video camera crew reported.

Also at the scene was a shirtless motorcyclist with a large tattoo on his back that said "Mongols" -- likely referring to the Mongols Motorcycle Club, a motorcycle gang founded in Montebello in the 1970s.

CHP Officer David Porter said the connector roads linking the 210 and 2 freeways would be shut down, along with the Foothill Boulevard onramp to the southbound 2, until at least 8 a.m.

Motorists traveling on the northbound 2 will be diverted off at the Mountain Street exit during the investigation, Porter said. CNS-10-08-2008 05:18

FT BSTRD

10-08-2008, 07:18 PM

Barker is actually a VERY good rider. On track or off.

marko138

10-08-2008, 07:48 PM

This is the kinda shit we need on this forum. More Buell pictures. Nice job.

PhiSig1071

10-08-2008, 07:55 PM

Barker is actually a VERY good rider. On track or off.

That you on the Uly?

FT BSTRD

10-08-2008, 09:51 PM

That you on the Uly?

Yup. Big goofy bastard.

FT BSTRD

10-08-2008, 09:58 PM

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/buelltoberfest2008/normal_Buelltoberfest_2008_10_05_1280_020.JPG

FT BSTRD

10-08-2008, 10:06 PM

From last year:

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/btf2007/normal_BTF07_Froggy_002.JPG

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/btf2007/normal_BTF07_Ft_bstrd_007.JPG

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PhiSig1071

10-08-2008, 10:36 PM

Yup. Big goofy bastard.

Cool!

OneSickPsycho

10-09-2008, 12:29 AM

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/buelltoberfest2008/normal_Buelltoberfest_2008_10_05_1280_020.JPG

That's a pretty cool pic...

Cutty72

10-09-2008, 12:32 AM

That's a pretty cool pic...

so when you gonna get back into hooliganism?

DLIT

10-09-2008, 01:05 AM

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/buelltoberfest2008/normal_Buelltoberfest_2008_10_05_1280_010.JPG

Looks worse in that picture than it really is.

Negative. That front angle looks like your hanging on the edge of a cliff for dear life. I can see how it's easy to be crossed up though. Those bars are way higher than a sportbike's clip-ons. Hard to get the upper off when you need to keep your hands that high up.

You musta just started dragging, huh? Reason I ask is because you're hanging off like a motherfucker. I did that shit, too.

DLIT

10-09-2008, 01:06 AM

From last year:

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/btf2007/normal_BTF07_Froggy_002.JPG

That guy is so upright, it looks like somebody photochopped him making it look like he's leaning, haha.

jeeps84

10-09-2008, 02:07 AM

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Hope he doesn't fall off!
That guy is so upright, it looks like somebody photochopped him making it look like he's leaning, haha.

You don't have to hang off to make a turn, it just helps.

marko138

10-09-2008, 08:38 AM

Love the Buell pics.

DLIT

10-09-2008, 08:57 AM

I know you don't have to hang off. The amount of pressure that guy has on his suspension by staying directly on the center line of his bike is too much for me. Sometimes just riding into work, I won't hang off and I just feel so vulnerable in a corner because I stayed directly on top of it. Maybe it's because I'm use to hanging off a bit and it feels 10x better than not.

marko138

10-09-2008, 08:58 AM

Trip

10-09-2008, 10:09 AM

I hear ya. Staying right on top feels a little wierd.

It feels a lot better to stay in the center of a touring bike to me. I don't like staying centered on the cbarrr at all.

ceo012384

10-09-2008, 11:09 AM

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That's a sweet shot, dude :cheers:
I know you don't have to hang off. The amount of pressure that guy has on his suspension by staying directly on the center line of his bike is too much for me. Sometimes just riding into work, I won't hang off and I just feel so vulnerable in a corner because I stayed directly on top of it. Maybe it's because I'm use to hanging off a bit and it feels 10x better than not.
I am incredibly uncomfortable riding at any sort of speed above "slow" without hanging off. REALLY don't like it.

I hang off a lot... that way as I get faster and faster I won't need to change my positioning at all... it will just be correct already. For example:

http://www.owenssportsphotos.com/Photos/RacingPhotos/20081001d142l.jpg

PhiSig1071

10-09-2008, 11:34 AM

Yep, I don't feel comfortable at all unless I shift my weight. Now on the street that usually means just my upper body, with my ass moving a couple inches at most.

the chi

10-09-2008, 11:43 AM

smileyman

10-09-2008, 11:51 AM

Ive reached the point where if I dont move, I feel like Im going to wreck...i cant take even a slight turn without at least shifting my weight, but for more agressive rides I tend to move my lower half more, and slide my body round the tank versus a full hang off with upper too.

Perhaps your just hyper active? I am kinda the same way gotta be shifting weight adjusting my grip. I don't hang off near as far as teh guy on the red Buell though. I am a classic half cheeker. I think that guy is holding on the tank with his inner knee. Great pic s though.

I have yet to ever drag a knee on a public road despite alot of hi rpm highway miles over the last 13-14 years. I really dont feel its necessary.

the chi

10-09-2008, 11:56 AM

Perhaps your just hyper active? I am kinda the same way gotta be shifting weight adjusting my grip. I don't hang off near as far as teh guy on the red Buell though. I am a classic half cheeker. I think that guy is holding on the tank with his inner knee. Great pic s though.

I have yet to ever drag a knee on a public road despite alot of hi rpm highway miles over the last 13-14 years. I really dont feel its necessary.

Well, i have been accused of having ADD fairly often...actually, ask Ebbs, he can confirm. :lol: I may be just a LITTLE hyper active, what can I say, I'm easily bored. While I keep a line on the interstate (unlike tripage) I am all over the bike, moving and shifting, etc even in a straight line. I also find the more I play around on and with my bike, the more comfortable I am and the better my confidence, both on and off the track.

When it comes to agressive street riding, I'm with you, I dont hang off nearly as much and have never drug on the street. I could have at the gap, but no kneepucks and I dont see the need either. :idk:

jeeps84

10-09-2008, 12:03 PM

It feels a lot better to stay in the center of a touring bike to me. I don't like staying centered on the cbarrr at all.

:iagree:Some bikes make it hard to shift weight. The seat usually interferes and tuff to move with out upsetting the suspension. That said, I know I got some pix on other PC with me hanging way of the HD @ the Gap.

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 01:30 PM

:iagree:Some bikes make it hard to shift weight. The seat usually interferes and tuff to move with out upsetting the suspension. That said, I know I got some pix on other PC with me hanging way of the HD @ the Gap.

I rode a VStrom. The seat and tank conspire to keep you permanently locked into the "tank hump" position. It's virtually impossible to hang off of one.

I rode the same red Firebolt in the pictures for about 150 miles on Saturday. Because of my height and leg length, I found that I couldn't hang off of it as well as the Uly. I was too bunched up. It didn't really matter, though, because I am able to shift just upper body weight and obtain 90% of the same effect. Part of the advantage of a 49" chest.

smileyman

10-09-2008, 01:42 PM

49 inch chest? Do you bench press the Uly when your bored?!?!?

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 02:39 PM

49 inch chest? Do you bench press the Uly when your bored?!?!?

Yep, and eat small children.

My kids call me "The Nogre". That's the problem with sport bikes. They don't make them for galoots.

Unless you are 5'8" and built like a woman, you can't get wadded up enough to get comfortable.

ceo012384

10-09-2008, 03:45 PM

Unless you are 5'8" and built like a woman, you can't get wadded up enough to get comfortable.
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PhiSig1071

10-09-2008, 04:28 PM

Yep, and eat small children.

My kids call me "The Nogre". That's the problem with sport bikes. They don't make them for galoots.

Unless you are 5'8" and built like a woman, you can't get wadded up enough to get comfortable.

:lol:

I know the feeling, I'm 6'3" 225 with a '38 waist and a '48 chest. I look a 'little' odd when I'm on my GSXR!

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 04:36 PM

shit I thought I was on the larger side... 6'3 190... then I met Piz in Indy... yeah dude blocks out the sun

smileyman

10-09-2008, 04:42 PM

Well,lessee. At 6 ft 160 lbs I would be the giant of the MotoGP circuit...apparently at a Buell get together I would be known as "slim"...

PhiSig1071

10-09-2008, 04:49 PM

Well,lessee. At 6 ft 160 lbs I would be the giant of the MotoGP circuit...apparently at a Buell get together I would be known as "slim"...

Watch your mouth!

I don't ride a buell! :lol:

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 05:37 PM

Well,lessee. At 6 ft 160 lbs I would be the giant of the MotoGP circuit...apparently at a Buell get together I would be known as "slim"...

There are several other "tiny" riders that ride Buells. None can ride my Uly because they can't touch the ground.

At 6' 235lbs 49" Chest 37" waist, I look like a monkey humping a foot ball on most sport bikes. I looked down right hilarious on the Firebolt. It looked like a red wheeled suppository.

The problem is that nearly ALL sportbikes are built with the same rider model in mind. It makes it really difficult to find a "true" sportbike that fits.

I actually rode a bike over the weekend that was TOO big. Anyone ridden the KTM 950 Super Enduro R?

Holy Crap! It was like riding a bus.

smileyman

10-09-2008, 05:43 PM

I suppose it is lucky most bikes come stock with springs for my weight...It is also lucky I am not a big lug cause I know at least 3 guys who wouldnt still be breathing and I most likley would be in one of the capitol punishment threads...

And I do hope to own a Firebolt XB12R before the end of th eyear...:drool:

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 05:48 PM

smileyman

10-09-2008, 05:51 PM

I want one before they are no more. My bike is paid off in January. I have no way possible to afford a BMWK1300S...Ok call it an impulse buy.

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 06:08 PM

And I do hope to own a Firebolt XB12R before the end of th eyear...:drool:

It's one of the best times to buy one. With the new 1125R's out, the Firebolts are REALLY reasonably priced.

You can pick up a new one in the mid 8 range.

Try both the 9R as well as the 12R. If you are coming from a 600, the power band on the 9 will be much more familiar. The 12 has some REALLY nice grunt though. If they were more comfortable, I would have bought one.

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 06:11 PM

I want one before they are no more. My bike is paid off in January. I have no way possible to afford a BMWK1300S...Ok call it an impulse buy.

yeah they're nice bikes... I strongly considered one but then realized I looped a 600 no need to burry myself under a 1200cc VTwin

DLIT

10-09-2008, 08:07 PM

That's a sweet shot, dude :cheers:

I am incredibly uncomfortable riding at any sort of speed above "slow" without hanging off. REALLY don't like it.

I hang off a lot... that way as I get faster and faster I won't need to change my positioning at all... it will just be correct already. For example:

http://www.owenssportsphotos.com/Photos/RacingPhotos/20081001d142l.jpg

You don't hang of a lot. Whoever created this thread hangs off alot.

Amber Lamps

10-09-2008, 08:41 PM

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/albums/buelltoberfest2008/normal_Buelltoberfest_2008_10_05_1280_010.JPG

Looks worse in that picture than it really is.

Big goofy bastard!

Sweet helmet mohawk!!!

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 10:23 PM

You don't hang of a lot. Whoever created this thread hangs off alot.

I don't hang off THAT much.

FT BSTRD

10-09-2008, 10:25 PM

Sweet helmet mohawk!!!

He actually wears it to increase visibility. He's not really even the mohawk "type". He smacked his new helmet at the Nashville track day.

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 10:27 PM

ya know... I had actually looked at getting one of those... it draws attention... and on a motorcycle... attention is NEVER a bad thing... if it is... your doing something you shouldn't be :lol:

Sixxxxer

10-09-2008, 10:36 PM

I'm 6'5 175...I can Sit on my Rear seat and still hold the Handlebars when I'm full tuck.

They Call me the Giraffe...I almost have to duck when we ride under overpasses...LMAO

DLIT

10-09-2008, 11:16 PM

I don't hang off THAT much.

Your whole ass is off the seat in the first pic series you posted.

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 11:29 PM

Your whole ass is off the seat in the first pic series you posted.

remember he's 6'3... us normal highted people have normal length legs too... :wink:

Rae actually has normal lenght legs... and a midget body... (a very nice body though :drool:) and she can get her whole ass off... much to the enjoyment of those of us riding behind her :lol:

Sixxxxer

10-09-2008, 11:29 PM

I surely wouldnt Complain.

DLIT

10-09-2008, 11:33 PM

Being 6'3" is all the more reason to hang off less, not more. Getting your ass off that much isn't the worst thing in the world and I'm not ragging on anybody. I did it when I wanted to drag knee for the first time and did it for a while after I started dragging (that's why I asked if he just started). Then I realized I had way more lean angle left and stopped hanging off so much and started leaning the bike more. Plus, it makes for much easier switch-back...ing. Hanging way off like that at full lean and then trying to get the bike leaning to the other side is way too much work than you have to do. Lining up your as crack on the outer edge of the seat is a solid base to work with.

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 11:39 PM

naw I was just saying that with his long legs for him... it's hang'n off that much to get his ass off... cause his legs are normal length...

but i'm out of my element... i know jack shit about hang'n off and drag'n a knee... as I haven't done it... Tried at the gap... hung way the fuck of... or I felt like I was... had my ass completely off the seat... tried to kiss the mirror... but never got even a scrape... probably cause the bike was at 80* :lol:

DLIT

10-09-2008, 11:42 PM

I use to be scared I was gonna drag a knee in jeans. I bought a 1-piece and tried dragging. I quickly realized I was no way fucking close to dragging my jeans. I dragged my first day with some tips from a buddy, but I was hanging off like mad.

Mr Lefty

10-09-2008, 11:48 PM

I think I'd have an easier time on a track... I was really focused on the next corner... and only really tried at the GAP and fuck... corners are so fucking close :lol:

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 12:46 AM

Your whole ass is off the seat in the first pic series you posted.

Nah, I'm the yellow galoot. At best, I can get half an ass.

The pegs are too low for me to get off any more than that.

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 12:50 AM

Amber Lamps

10-10-2008, 06:09 AM

The more you hang off, the more contact patch you have in reserve. If you need to tap into that little bit more lean angle, you just lean more. If you are already at maximum contact patch, it's too hard to hang off more mid turn.

I tend to reserve deep hang-offs to sweepers and tight hairpins where flicking back and forth isn't required.

:idk: I've seen some ugly crash result from getting too far off the bike when street riding. IMHO it's harder to react to emergency situations when you are that far off the bike. Of course,I don't try to do track days on public roads myself...

marko138

10-10-2008, 07:54 AM

And I do hope to own a Firebolt XB12R before the end of th eyear...:drool:

Now we're talking. The 12 is a torque beast.

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 08:50 AM

:idk: I've seen some ugly crash result from getting too far off the bike when street riding. IMHO it's harder to react to emergency situations when you are that far off the bike. Of course,I don't try to do track days on public roads myself...

Careful. Wouldn't want you to tarnish your halo.

smileyman

10-10-2008, 10:04 AM

Now we're talking. The 12 is a torque beast.

I think it would be perfect for NW Arkansas. I liked them from the beginning (with the XB9R) but they were so overpriced. Now they are just right and the 12 would feel great on these back roads and let me retire the ZX6 to track days.

As for the hanging off I have a 34 in inseam so my knee hits pretty easily with just a half cheek. Like everyone else i leaned off too much at first, then as my speed on track improved there was little time to lean off that much in between chicanes and some corners. Perhaps i just got lazy...

Amber Lamps

10-10-2008, 01:08 PM

Careful. Wouldn't want you to tarnish your halo.

Ah,ah,ah now,I listen to "squid this and squid that" over lack of proscribed gear and stunting. I've always considered knee dragging on public roads to be similar behavior...

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 05:06 PM

Ah,ah,ah now,I listen to "squid this and squid that" over lack of proscribed gear and stunting. I've always considered knee dragging on public roads to be similar behavior...

Just pickin' at ya!

Draggin' a knee at "hero's corner" isn't necessarily track behavior.

I only drug a couple of other places during the day. It's hard not to in North Georgia.

I ALWAYS wore the proper gear and never once did a stoppie or a wheelie. :wink:

PhiSig1071

10-10-2008, 05:11 PM

Just pickin' at ya!

Draggin' a knee at "hero's corner" isn't necessarily track behavior.

I only drug a couple of other places during the day. It's hard not to in North Georgia.

I ALWAYS wore the proper gear and never once did a stoppie or a wheelie. :wink:

North Georgia kicks ass! TWO? Suches? Some amazing roads up there and not a quarter as many cops as there are on the Dragon.

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 06:15 PM

North Georgia kicks ass! TWO? Suches? Some amazing roads up there and not a quarter as many cops as there are on the Dragon.

Shhhhhhhh! Damn Dude! Keep that shit on the DL!

I don't really go to Deal's Gap any more. Suches is just as close with 4 times the roads.

PhiSig1071

10-10-2008, 06:31 PM

Shhhhhhhh! Damn Dude! Keep that shit on the DL!

I don't really go to Deal's Gap any more. Suches is just as close with 4 times the roads.

:whistle:

Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along!

:lol:

I know "heroes corner", that turn NEVER ends! I love coming up from Dahlonega to TWO on 19. Hauling the bikes up there in my truck I see every point on the digital compass!

FT BSTRD

10-10-2008, 06:39 PM

:whistle:

Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along!

:lol:

I know "heroes corner", that turn NEVER ends! I love coming up from Dahlonega to TWO on 19. Hauling the bikes up there in my truck I see every point on the digital compass!

The locals named it "Gixxer Corner" in honor of one of their friends who blew the turn completely and disintegrated. They were pulling Gixxer parts out of the trees for weeks.

PhiSig1071

10-10-2008, 09:27 PM

The locals named it "Gixxer Corner" in honor of one of their friends who blew the turn completely and disintegrated. They were pulling Gixxer parts out of the trees for weeks.

I'll bet! I forget which direction it's going but in one direction it hooks pretty tight there at the end, it can catch you out, easily.

Amber Lamps

10-10-2008, 10:17 PM

Just pickin' at ya!

Draggin' a knee at "hero's corner" isn't necessarily track behavior.

I only drug a couple of other places during the day. It's hard not to in North Georgia.

I ALWAYS wore the proper gear and never once did a stoppie or a wheelie. :wink:

That's cool! As an advocate for gear self determination and ex-"stunter",I feel obligated to get one in for my peeps once in a while!:rockout:

FT BSTRD

10-11-2008, 10:57 AM

That's cool! As an advocate for gear self determination and ex-"stunter",I feel obligated to get one in for my peeps once in a while!:rockout:

I am also an advocate for gear self determination.

In addition, I work diligently to convince riders that they should wear the maximum amount of protective clothing all the time.

Stunting in a closed course environment doesn't require the same degree of protective gear that a track day or spirited day ride would. Not to mention race leathers and hard armor would restrict movement.

Ducati Diva

10-11-2008, 11:34 AM

I am also an advocate for gear self determination.

In addition, I work diligently to convince riders that they should wear the maximum amount of protective clothing all the time.

Stunting in a closed course environment doesn't require the same degree of protective gear that a track day or spirited day ride would. Not to mention race leathers and hard armor would restrict movement.

Proper gear is a must!! I agree whole heartedly. Unfortunately part of my job is scraping up people that wreck on the Parkway. It is amazing the difference in injuries of people who wear gear vs people who don't in the same kind of crashes. Seeing some of these people really made me want to wear the right gear!

FT BSTRD

10-11-2008, 11:51 AM

Last weekend, one of my buddies who rides an old "tuber" Buell had a really weird front brake failure coming hot into a turn. He blew the turn and smacked the mountain.

He was wearing full leathers. He suffered a broken collar bone and 8 broken ribs. No road rash.

Although it was painful, it could have been much worse. I have no doubt that the gear made all the difference.

Cutty72

10-11-2008, 03:14 PM

There are several other "tiny" riders that ride Buells. None can ride my Uly because they can't touch the ground.

At 6' 235lbs 49" Chest 37" waist, I look like a monkey humping a foot ball on most sport bikes. I looked down right hilarious on the Firebolt. It looked like a red wheeled suppository.

The problem is that nearly ALL sportbikes are built with the same rider model in mind. It makes it really difficult to find a "true" sportbike that fits.

at 5'9" and 180 i must be a small buell rider? :idk:

And I do hope to own a Firebolt XB12R before the end of th eyear...:drool:

I know of a yellow 07 XB12R that can be had for a mere $6500. Last I checked had under 100 miles on it.
Dude bought it, rode it home, rode it back, and traded it in on a sportster. Pussy.