Harley pass at the Gap [Archive]

FT BSTRD

11-14-2008, 11:11 PM

repost, but it is a classic so I will allow it. I love the RV kid thinking they were going to get beat up.

Can't remember the last time I had my ass kicked by an entertainment attorney and an oral surgeon.

Why ALL riders should be required to take an MSF course. Might have used the FRONT brake had the rider known that 70% of the braking is in the front brake.

Same could be said for the rider who took out the rider on the last ride with Drewpy and me.

Trip

11-14-2008, 11:34 PM

The last death at the gap was cause of rear brake use. It's real common up there, we had a life flight out for the same reason last week. People said the blood from that wreck was everywhere.

Dave

11-14-2008, 11:38 PM

hrm another good reason to avoid the gap

Trip

11-14-2008, 11:41 PM

hrm another good reason to avoid the gap

It's not as bad as it seems, not like you will come around a blind corner and find a R1 sitting in the middle of the road and you barely miss it and rip off the front fairing as you pass by to show your manlyness.

Dave

11-14-2008, 11:52 PM

It's not as bad as it seems, not like you will come around a blind corner and find a R1 sitting in the middle of the road and you barely miss it and rip off the front fairing as you pass by to show your manlyness.

single width lanes with no runoff big drops blind corners and massive overcrowding. really sounds like somewhere i wanna go :whistle:

ericr

11-15-2008, 12:10 AM

Why ALL riders should be required to take an MSF course. Might have used the FRONT brake had the rider known that 70% of the braking is in the front brake.

He just needed to learn bikes are supposed to lean in corners. If you watch it close he never was in danger of the bike not making the curve, he just didn't lean and then skidded straight off the side. What a dumbass --> :panic:

FT BSTRD

11-15-2008, 02:15 AM

He just needed to learn bikes are supposed to lean in corners. If you watch it close he never was in danger of the bike not making the curve, he just didn't lean and then skidded straight off the side. What a dumbass --> :panic:

The problem was passing into a blind right hander at speed above the rider's comfort level. When he panicked, he locked the rear causing the bike to skid. He target fixated and rode it straight off the mountain.

Ducati Diva

11-15-2008, 09:37 AM

Love the gap hate the chaos! It used to be a great place but it got way to crowded with to many people doing stupid shit. That's the great thing about being a local, we know roads that are just as fun that the tourist don't know about. Haven't been back to the gap in over a year and don't really miss it.

Sixxxxer

11-15-2008, 10:57 AM

I love Ignorant People "There gonna beat our asses"...Why because you stopped to help??

Shut the fuck up

was92v

11-15-2008, 11:22 AM

I my experiance the best place to pass a car on that road is just before and in the middle of the corner....If you know what you are doing and checked for oncomming traffic at the right time. If you can't see around the turn, ie: through the trees up there, then don't do it. Large vehicles on the gap are best left for the short straight sections.
That guy just didn't know how to ride and dumbassed into the weeds and down the hill for no good reason. How do I know? Been there-Done that.
I have a picture of the "tree of Shame"(before it had a name) with one part hanging on it.. my front wheel, 16 years ago.

FT BSTRD

11-15-2008, 01:12 PM

How do I know? Been there-Done that.
I have a picture of the "tree of Shame"(before it had a name) with one part hanging on it.. my front wheel, 16 years ago.

March 6, 1992--The Tree of Shame is born.

marko138

11-15-2008, 02:06 PM

Love this guy: "Idiot...Fucking Idiot".

Ninjakel

11-15-2008, 02:34 PM

I Love the gap and the surrounding roads.

VFR Rider

11-15-2008, 02:51 PM

that video is really a classic of what not to do's... passing on a blind curve, failure to press and lean the motorcycle, target fixation, failure to apply the brakes correctly.

What was amazing is that the 2nd rider managed to hold it together just enough not to end up on top of him in the ditch. He almost did, but managed to keep it on the shoulder.

marko138

11-15-2008, 03:16 PM

FT BSTRD

11-15-2008, 04:13 PM

Probably out of sheer luck.

Unfortunately, I believe we've all been there before. I believe this rider is either a perpetual cruiser from KS or FL who got in over his head in the mountains or is a newer rider. I don't know if he'd ever attended an MSF course or other rider training, but I think it would have made all the difference if he had or had remembered what he was taught.

Hopefully, he made it through with minor injuries and light damage. I have been down with minor injuries and light damage. Most have. For me, it was a learning experience. I spent weeks deconstructing what happened and what I needed to do to keep it from happening again. I think it made me a better rider and a better student of riding.

There is nothing like getting pitched on your ass to provide you with a healthy dose of respect for riding.

LeeNetworX

11-16-2008, 10:58 AM

hrm another good reason to avoid the gap

I'd rather just ride up here, especially on the weekdays. :rockout:

LeeNetworX

11-16-2008, 10:59 AM

I love Ignorant People "There gonna beat our asses"...Why because you stopped to help??

Shut the fuck up

Maybe he thought the group of idiot riders might assume they ran the guy off the road or something?

MikeSP1

11-16-2008, 11:12 AM

It's amazing how some people believe that cruisers are inherently safer than any other bike out there. I personally believe that it's a load of crap. I know because I have a cruiser and a sportbike. Cruisers really are more difficult to ride. They are capable of a prodigious amount of speed and inertia, and when the rider doesn't know the road or how to handle their particular machine, then things end up badly. I've had the front end of my VTX lift because I leaned in too hard and used the exhaust pipe as a fulcrum. I've felt both the front and rear tire skip and slide. But I've yet to truly push my RC to her limit yet, if I come in to a corner too hot for how much I'm leaned, I can just lean more, with the VTX, once you're on the peg, that's it.

marko138

11-17-2008, 09:55 AM

Unfortunately, I believe we've all been there before. I believe this rider is either a perpetual cruiser from KS or FL who got in over his head in the mountains or is a newer rider. I don't know if he'd ever attended an MSF course or other rider training, but I think it would have made all the difference if he had or had remembered what he was taught.

Hopefully, he made it through with minor injuries and light damage. I have been down with minor injuries and light damage. Most have. For me, it was a learning experience. I spent weeks deconstructing what happened and what I needed to do to keep it from happening again. I think it made me a better rider and a better student of riding.

There is nothing like getting pitched on your ass to provide you with a healthy dose of respect for riding.

Exactly. You have to learn from your mistakes...provided you walk away from them.

PhiSig1071

11-19-2008, 09:16 PM

Unfortunately, I believe we've all been there before. I believe this rider is either a perpetual cruiser from KS or FL who got in over his head in the mountains or is a newer rider. I don't know if he'd ever attended an MSF course or other rider training, but I think it would have made all the difference if he had or had remembered what he was taught.

Hopefully, he made it through with minor injuries and light damage. I have been down with minor injuries and light damage. Most have. For me, it was a learning experience. I spent weeks deconstructing what happened and what I needed to do to keep it from happening again. I think it made me a better rider and a better student of riding.

There is nothing like getting pitched on your ass to provide you with a healthy dose of respect for riding.

I totally agree, but what's with the FL crack? :lol: Not cool!

Particle Man

11-19-2008, 09:30 PM

he walked away from it... no doubt he had a decent scare. One of three things happened: 1 he learned from it, adapted his riding style, and is a better rider now. 2 he got the shit scared out of him, sold the bike, and we don't have to worry about him anymore. 3 he learned nothing, blamed it on someone else (it's the American way) and is eventually going to kill either himself or someone else.

FT BSTRD

11-19-2008, 10:49 PM

I totally agree, but what's with the FL crack? :lol: Not cool!

Florida's version of Deal's Gap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/thennavan/Cloverleaf.jpg

Say it ain't so:

http://webspace.utexas.edu/treybrad/www/bandit/rear.jpg

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

PhiSig1071

11-19-2008, 11:14 PM

It aint so!

Last Months POTM was taken in FL!

So was this:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v355/222/39/25102382/n25102382_33449467_2030.jpg

FT BSTRD

11-19-2008, 11:30 PM

It aint so!

Last Months POTM was taken in FL!

So was this:

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v355/222/39/25102382/n25102382_33449467_2030.jpg

Does it look like this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1880615071565967158&ei=mOckSaLyM5ycrAKB84noBg&q=ulysses+deals+gap&hl=en

Dave

11-20-2008, 12:27 AM

Florida's version of Deal's Gap:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/thennavan/Cloverleaf.jpg

Say it ain't so:

http://webspace.utexas.edu/treybrad/www/bandit/rear.jpg

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

mann lookkit that square!

LeeNetworX

11-20-2008, 09:02 AM

The good ole Florida Flat Spot.

PhiSig1071

11-20-2008, 04:22 PM

No. I couldn't even watch the video, it's too depressing to even think about!

Thankfully I live a few hours from some good roads in N. Ga, and I can ride 12 months a year down here. New Years Trackday FTW!