V-Twin FTW

[OneSickPsycho]

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:whistle:

[marko138]

FUCK! Yours? I love it.

[OneSickPsycho]

I left home early this afternoon with a Fireblade...


Returned with a V-Twin Superbike.


No money exchange... even swap.

[Tmall]

Not bad!

rc 51
Buell Xb
Tlr

My three favourite sounding bikes. And I WILL own an RC in the near future.

[OneSickPsycho]

Not bad!

rc 51
Buell Xb
Tlr

My three favourite sounding bikes. And I WILL own an RC in the near future.

The Tiller sounds great... Not as great as the Buell, but we can't all be perfect.

[marko138]

I left home early this afternoon with a Fireblade...


Returned with a V-Twin Superbike.


No money exchange... even swap.

Sounds like you got the solid end of the deal. The TILLER with Yoshi's are bad ass.

[OneSickPsycho]

Sounds like you got the solid end of the deal. The TILLER with Yoshi's are bad ass.

I'd say we both ended up in pretty good shape. There were some minor cosmetic issues with the Honda and a blown fork seal, but it had a lot of aftermarket stuff... The Tiller has a nick or two and some minor neglect and is pretty much stock.... for now. :D

Both were real low miles... The Honda - '02 w/ 5,850... The Tiller - '01 w/ 5,100...

BTW... The Tiller sounds like sex... angry dirty sex.

[Curb]

That shits pimp yo!!! My roommate in college had that exact bike and when he would go away for a weekend with his woman I used to take it for a spin:D

enjoy it:dthumb:

[Ninjakel]

Enjoy it!! I miss Leon's 01 TLR :(

[Dave]

howd you work that deal out anyway? any bump in premiums?

[OneSickPsycho]

howd you work that deal out anyway? any bump in premiums?

Dude responded to my old Craigslist for sale ad that happened to mention that I'd consider trades for v-twin sportbikes... We just got together, road eachother's bikes for about 20 minutes, spent about 20 minutes kicking the tires, and signed over the titles.

I don't know what you mean by "bump in premiums"... it was a straight swap, no blowjobs involved.

[Dave]

i was asking if that bikes widowmaker rep makes it more expensive to insure over the blade

[OneSickPsycho]

i was asking if that bikes widowmaker rep makes it more expensive to insure over the blade

Oh, I dunno... never had the CBR insured... I will with the TLR though... since State Farm goes strictly by displacement it should be more expensive... about 42cc worth, however the fuck much that is.

[Ninjakel]

when we had the TLR we had it insured with Geico, along with my Gsxr 750, and his Gsxr 1000. It was 600 a year for full coverage for all three.

we dropped the TLR when we sold it a couple months ago, and now I think we are at 400 for the year on the other 2 bikes

[Gas Man]

Sounds like you got the solid end of the deal. The TILLER with Yoshi's are bad ass.

EXACTLY... its irry how much we agree.

What is the actual value of the cbr vs the tiller?

[Ninjakel]

stock Tillers are going for 4-4500 down here.

[Porkchop]

Congrats OSP... pretty sick shit!!!! :rockwoot:

[Mr Lefty]

and another + is it doesn't have anyone's gay ass name painted on it!

definitely a great trade for you...

how does the Tiller do with long distance? I'd think it'd be comfortable... at least as much so as the honda or the buell :idk:

[ericr]

Sweet looking ride! :dthumb:

*Indian voice> Good trade < end Indian voice* :D

[Trip]

nice OSP, finally got rid of that scary red carbon fiber piece o crap :lol:

[PiZdETS]

Awesome score dude, always wanted one. Sound clips are needed asap.

[Dnyce]

that shit looks badass

my 2nd fave suz

[OneSickPsycho]

EXACTLY... its irry how much we agree.

What is the actual value of the cbr vs the tiller?

NADA says I got fucked, but I don't buy that shit for a second.

stock Tillers are going for 4-4500 down here.

I'd say that's about accurrate for what things are really going for... I think I could have gotten $5k out of the Honda if I were patient and willing to wait for the right buyer... Although I had it on Craigslist for about 6 months and only had a handful of people look at it...

There's something to be said about having a motorcycle that you really, really like. Even if I could have done a little better money-wise, what the fuck ever... I love this rig.

and another + is it doesn't have anyone's gay ass name painted on it!

definitely a great trade for you...

how does the Tiller do with long distance? I'd think it'd be comfortable... at least as much so as the honda or the buell :idk:

Time will tell about the long distance capabilities... I imagine it will be better than the Honda AND the Buell. Well, until I rip all the fairings off of it... :whistle:

nice OSP, finally got rid of that scary red carbon fiber piece o crap :lol:

:lol: The guy was like, "I've never seen red carbon fiber like that... wonder if it's custom." I told him probably not, but Robbie D's name sure was...

Awesome score dude, always wanted one. Sound clips are needed asap.

I don't really have anything to do sound clips with, but the guy who I bought it from sent me a video!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsk7zrmze2s

[marko138]

It's no Buell...but holy shit does that thing sound sweet.

[OneSickPsycho]

It's no Buell...but holy shit does that thing sound sweet.

Truth... It's certainly not as badass sounding as a Buell, but it's still very very angry.

[Mr Lefty]

wtf is up with the headlights... they look like HID's that are going out.

[Racerboy]

I miss my TLR!! Here are a few shots...Love my plate, too!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/racerboy221/a444c5d3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/racerboy221/IMG_0837.jpg

[marko138]

Truth... It's certainly not as badass sounding as a Buell, but it's still very very angry.
Those Yosh's bring that engine to life!

[OneSickPsycho]

wtf is up with the headlights... they look like HID's that are going out.

They are tinted and the original owner used yellow bulbs... Guy I got it from said he wanted to change them out, but just never did... hell, he only had the thing for 3 months.

[Mr Lefty]

intresting... how long did you have the honda? 5 months?

[OneSickPsycho]

I miss my TLR!! Here are a few shots...Love my plate, too!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/racerboy221/a444c5d3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/racerboy221/IMG_0837.jpg

I can't read your plate... I was thinking of TWNFTW.

intresting... how long did you have the honda? 5 months?

6 months nearly to the day...

[Racerboy]

DXE NRMS....Dick's Enormous!

[marko138]

DXE NRMS....Dick's Enormous!
:lol:

[Antwanny]

Now you are a real man congrats
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[OneSickPsycho]

DXE NRMS....Dick's Enormous!

Jesus fucking christ... I knew a guy who had the license plate BG P9S... He tried to talk me and my roommate into posing naked for his website... then he tried to have sex with my girlfriend... then I punched him in the throat... then I never saw him again.

[OneSickPsycho]

Now you are a real man congrats

How much does that full Yosh kit run? I already want to do shit to this thing.

[Antwanny]

Jesus fucking christ... I knew a guy who had the license plate BG P9S... He tried to talk me and my roommate into posing naked for his website... then he tried to have sex with my girlfriend... then I punched him in the throat... then I never saw him again.

HAHhahhahah your sentence construction is pure art.

Depending where you get it full systems are around 750- 900$ depending on stainless, carbon, or titanium. BTW pipes power commander and the Tls are done its not worth sinking any more money into it unless your keeping it.
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[marko138]

How much does that full Yosh kit run? I already want to do shit to this thing.
Full? :wtf: You got the slip ons. Why do you need the full?

[Archren]

NICE!! Congrats, dude!! Tracy (G-Rex) will tell you that bike actually does pretty well for distance. He did a ride to Florida (from OKC) on his. :dthumb:

[Antwanny]

my dad just got done saying wtf is he putting a 1k dollar exhaust on for, i replied because its a TL damnit
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[OneSickPsycho]

HAHhahhahah your sentence construction is pure art.

Depending where you get it full systems are around 750- 900$ depending on stainless, carbon, or titanium. BTW pipes power commander and the Tls are done its not worth sinking any more money into it unless your keeping it.

I'm keeping it.

Full? :wtf: You got the slip ons. Why do you need the full?

I don't... I'm just not a huge fan of the silver cans and the bolt on exhaust... and I have more money then sense... well, no money, but less sense.

NICE!! Congrats, dude!! Tracy (G-Rex) will tell you that bike actually does pretty well for distance. He did a ride to Florida (from OKC) on his. :dthumb:

It feels like it'd be fine for the long haul...

my dad just got done saying wtf is he putting a 1k dollar exhaust on for, i replied because its a TL damnit

I wouldn't pay full retail... I'd wait until I found someone on another forum selling theirs or something...

[Archren]

Tracy says to check the WERA boards for a full system.. he says he got a full titanium system for his TL for $750.

[Yamerhaw]

lets see a pic of the honda you traded for it

[PiZdETS]

You need to do a nasty streetfighter thing like this. (http://www.extremecreations.com.au/gallery.asp?View=suz)
http://www.extremecreations.com.au/images/gallery/suz/venom/IMG_6267.jpg

[marko138]

You need to do a nasty streetfighter thing like this. (http://www.extremecreations.com.au/gallery.asp?View=suz)
http://www.extremecreations.com.au/images/gallery/suz/venom/IMG_6267.jpg
Lotta work went into that.

[OneSickPsycho]

Tracy says to check the WERA boards for a full system.. he says he got a full titanium system for his TL for $750.

And that's exactly what I'm looking for... M4 I'd bet... that seems to be the most popular full Ti system...

lets see a pic of the honda you traded for it

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/mobilesnakepit/Colorado/0520081806.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/mobilesnakepit/Colorado/100_2739.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll316/mobilesnakepit/Colorado/100_2748.jpg

[marko138]

Yoshi or die, holmes.

[OneSickPsycho]

You need to do a nasty streetfighter thing like this. (http://www.extremecreations.com.au/gallery.asp?View=suz)
http://www.extremecreations.com.au/images/gallery/suz/venom/IMG_6267.jpg

I just came in my pants. So question... you put all that time, effort, and money into it... and you keep the weirdo rotary damper?

I envision a tail section like that on my bike...

Yoshi or die, holmes.

Fuck it... I may just go straight pipes FTW.

[PiZdETS]

Straight pipes on a v-twin = epic win. Always.

[JoJoYZF]

Straight pipes on a v-twin = epic win. Always.

No doubt about that.

[Antwanny]

Straight pipes on a v-twin = epic win. Always.

You are die now

Yoshi or die, holmes. High five

M-4s are louder but the yoshis have a ton of bass i set off car alarms just cruising around town on the regular
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[OneSickPsycho]

Straight pipes on a v-twin = epic win. Always.

My neighbors will certainly disagree. Fuck 'em.

[marko138]

You are die now

Yoshi or die, holmes. High five

M-4s are louder but the yoshis have a ton of bass i set off car alarms just cruising around town on the regular
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m95/markgraves138/56d22b933430f06a58c95ddpc3.jpg

[Ninjakel]

Leon's had the highmount M4's. Sounds so sick.

[OneSickPsycho]

Leon's had the highmount M4's. Sounds so sick.

If only you guys wouldn't have got rid of it before I got this thing... We could maybe have worked out a trade w/ cash deal...

[Cutty72]

Congrats OSP, you finally got your man card back!

Look sweet, sounds killer... perfection.


One day my exhaust will be louder than my intake... come on Kevin... :panic:

[Ninjakel]

If only you guys wouldn't have got rid of it before I got this thing... We could maybe have worked out a trade w/ cash deal...


No shit. I like the fireblades. Good bikes. :)

[MikeSP1]

"Two big jugs are better than 4 little one's"

Twins are absolutely amazing, there's just no denying it. And that sound, it's like the bike's going "Ima eat you alive".

[Dave]

"Two big jugs are better than 4 little one's"

Twins are absolutely amazing, there's just no denying it. And that sound, it's like the bike's going "Ima eat you alive".

thats funny, i can never hear them over the howl of my uncorked D&D :whistle:

[Porkchop]

thats funny, i can never hear them over the howl of my uncorked D&D :whistle:

D&D FTW.... :rockwoot:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/BRbaseball52/motivator2965623.jpg

[Mr Lefty]

fuck that... D&D is shit. just obnoxously loud.

sorry but not much beats the sound of a V-Twin... cept maybe a MotoGP bike... IMO.

[jalaan1]

congrats OSP.

deep down you weren't really happy with the blade anyway.

[Mr Lefty]

congrats OSP.

deep down you weren't really happy with the blade anyway.

huh? the only thing more apparent about OSP is his love for killing hookers and shovels... or using his shovels on hookers

[Chris S]

I'll refrain from saying anything bad about D&D, but they're w/o a doubt my least favorite pipe brand. I'd rather run stock exhaust!

I love twins, too. I started w/ a SuperHawk, then went to a few I4's, and since then have owned nothing but twins:

SV650S
RC51
Tuono
Monster S2R1000
Super Duke

[MikeSP1]

D&D can KMA. GP cans FTW. I'm running scorpion cans right now (less than stellar stuff), and my Honda sounds good. IMHO, a good sounding bike is much better than an obnoxiously loud bike that sounds like ass

[OneSickPsycho]

No shit. I like the fireblades. Good bikes. :)

Well that too... I was actually talking about trading exhaust...

thats funny, i can never hear them over the howl of my uncorked D&D :whistle:

I'd run straight pipes before running D&D...

[Tmall]

I can't stand D&D on an I4. But, this bike is running one, and I love the sound of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LTR3V-X50

[OneSickPsycho]

I can't stand D&D on an I4. But, this bike is running one, and I love the sound of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LTR3V-X50

That's cause it's a Buell... You could put tin cans with pennies in them at the end of the header and it'd sound good.

[marko138]

Congrats OSP, you finally got your man card back!

Look sweet, sounds killer... perfection.


One day my exhaust will be louder than my intake... come on Kevin... :panic:

If Kevin gets his shit together that would put the 1125 right up top of my next bike list.

I can't stand D&D on an I4. But, this bike is running one, and I love the sound of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9LTR3V-X50

Not bad...but only b/c it's a Buell. The Drummer and Special Ops still sound 100x better.


That's cause it's a Buell... You could put tin cans with pennies in them at the end of the header and it'd sound good.

Exactly.

[t-homo]

Damn Congrats OSP. That is a nice lookin bike. Just last weekend a guy here traded his 01 yellow TLR for an Aprilia rs(?)125.

[Porkchop]

D&D can KMA. GP cans FTW. I'm running scorpion cans right now (less than stellar stuff), and my Honda sounds good. IMHO, a good sounding bike is much better than an obnoxiously loud bike that sounds like ass

Yea, my friend has a Scorpion on his R6... good stuff too...

[Gas Man]

Leon's had the highmount M4's. Sounds so sick.

That is the only other brand I'd run on the TL

D&D FTW.... :rockwoot:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/BRbaseball52/motivator2965623.jpg

fuck that... D&D is shit. just obnoxously loud.

sorry but not much beats the sound of a V-Twin... cept maybe a MotoGP bike... IMO.

Exactly... I wouldn't put a D&D on anything if you wanted to pay for them yourself. FUCK THAT!



I'd run straight pipes before running D&D...
Exactly!

[SteveP]

97 TLS is one of the coolest bikes ever created. Cool ride.:rockwoot:

[Cass]

OSP.. congrats!!! Now I understand your responses in the other thread, and apologize for being a bit of a bitch about it.

Twins FTMFW. Srsly.

[OneSickPsycho]

OSP.. congrats!!! Now I understand your responses in the other thread, and apologize for being a bit of a bitch about it.

Twins FTMFW. Srsly.

You can be as much of a bitch as you want... I could care less.

[G-Rex]

Finally I can reply! :D

First of all, she's purty! LOVE the mighty TLR.

Your comments about it so far seem to be pretty spot on to me. Here are my suggestions.

Keep an eye on the WERA board for a full titanium system. I don't mean a stainless system with titanium cans. FULL titanium. Header, midpipes, cans, the whole smack. It was a $2,000 system from Yoshi back in the day. Rare if you can find it now, but light as hell. I weighed mine when I got it, and the whole thing was 11 pounds with the cans. The header diameter is a little bit larger too. I'll rip off a sound file of it next week, along with a sound file with the cans off. I kid you not, the thing vibrates the floor and sounds like a NASCAR 350.

For the suspension, have the front forks reworked to match your weight, and keep an eye out for a Penske or Ohlins. I put a Penske triple adjustable on mine, but I don't think they make them anymore. Not sure. I have one already. :rockwoot:

The next thing you'll want to do is to replace the stock steering damper with an aftermarket unit. I have a Hyperpro on mine. The stock damper is entirely too stiff in my opinion.

Next, start looking for a set of light wheels. I put 5 spoke magnesium Marchesinis on mine. They are the way to go. I found them on Ebay for a serious steal. When you do your search, spell it wrong on purpose, try a few different ways. That's how I got mine. I was the only one to bid on them.

After you get this far, if you're not dirt poor yet, get a set of steel braided lines. I put Kevlar lines on mine, and they do help. I do want to put a set of Brembo brakes on it. Archren's Brembos stop like yesterday and I want that stopping power on my TLR. That's the *only* mod left that I can justify to the bike. You won't find any *bling* or faux carbon fiber on it. Every single mod is specifically aimed at improving performance.

Oh, I almost forgot. I pulled the motor and ported / polished the heads and valves, and bumped the compression a little by leaving off the base gasket between the block and the cylinder.

That presented me with a unique problem though. Now, the thing bangs the rev limiter like a raped ape and scared the holy shit out of me the first time it did it, it was so quick. I *really* need another 1500 rpm in revs, so if anybody happens to know where I can get my grubby little hands on a factory race kit Yoshimura computer (adjustable rev limiter) I would be very grateful.

The above mods have put my TLR in the 410 lb range dry, and I dare anybody to call that heavy (just had to give my girlfriend a look since she's sitting here and said *It's heavy.* She'll get her's later.) It's also amazingly easy to service. I can change spark plugs in 30 minutes. Valve checks are equally easy.

I'll work on those sound files this week. The TLR makes mere mortals tremble, and girls need private moments with themselves.

You chose well.

[OneSickPsycho]

Finally I can reply! :D

First of all, she's purty! LOVE the mighty TLR.

Your comments about it so far seem to be pretty spot on to me. Here are my suggestions.

Keep an eye on the WERA board for a full titanium system. I don't mean a stainless system with titanium cans. FULL titanium. Header, midpipes, cans, the whole smack. It was a $2,000 system from Yoshi back in the day. Rare if you can find it now, but light as hell. I weighed mine when I got it, and the whole thing was 11 pounds with the cans. The header diameter is a little bit larger too. I'll rip off a sound file of it next week, along with a sound file with the cans off. I kid you not, the thing vibrates the floor and sounds like a NASCAR 350.

For the suspension, have the front forks reworked to match your weight, and keep an eye out for a Penske or Ohlins. I put a Penske triple adjustable on mine, but I don't think they make them anymore. Not sure. I have one already. :rockwoot:

The next thing you'll want to do is to replace the stock steering damper with an aftermarket unit. I have a Hyperpro on mine. The stock damper is entirely too stiff in my opinion.

Next, start looking for a set of light wheels. I put 5 spoke magnesium Marchesinis on mine. They are the way to go. I found them on Ebay for a serious steal. When you do your search, spell it wrong on purpose, try a few different ways. That's how I got mine. I was the only one to bid on them.

After you get this far, if you're not dirt poor yet, get a set of steel braided lines. I put Kevlar lines on mine, and they do help. I do want to put a set of Brembo brakes on it. Archren's Brembos stop like yesterday and I want that stopping power on my TLR. That's the *only* mod left that I can justify to the bike. You won't find any *bling* or faux carbon fiber on it. Every single mod is specifically aimed at improving performance.

Oh, I almost forgot. I pulled the motor and ported / polished the heads and valves, and bumped the compression a little by leaving off the base gasket between the block and the cylinder.

That presented me with a unique problem though. Now, the thing bangs the rev limiter like a raped ape and scared the holy shit out of me the first time it did it, it was so quick. I *really* need another 1500 rpm in revs, so if anybody happens to know where I can get my grubby little hands on a factory race kit Yoshimura computer (adjustable rev limiter) I would be very grateful.

The above mods have put my TLR in the 410 lb range dry, and I dare anybody to call that heavy (just had to give my girlfriend a look since she's sitting here and said *It's heavy.* She'll get her's later.) It's also amazingly easy to service. I can change spark plugs in 30 minutes. Valve checks are equally easy.

I'll work on those sound files this week. The TLR makes mere mortals tremble, and girls need private moments with themselves.

You chose well.

Thanks for the suggestions... I think I'm going to start with maintenance stuff and work my way up... I don't see myself ever buying crazy light wheels or anything quite that pricey... the ti exhaust totally gives me wood, but I doubt I can ever find it for the money I'm willing to spend...

[Archren]

Archren's Brembos stop like yesterday and I want that stopping power on my TLR. That's the *only* mod left that I can justify to the bike. You won't find any *bling* or faux carbon fiber on it. Every single mod is specifically aimed at improving performance.

Yup.. those Brembos will stop on a dime. If you can find 'em for a reasonable price, I highly recommend them. Sure MSF says braking with two fingers is bad... but any more than that, you'll be doing stoppies without even meaning to. :panic:

(just had to give my girlfriend a look since she's sitting here and said *It's heavy.* She'll get her's later.)

It's a pig. redflip j/k

I'll work on those sound files this week. The TLR makes mere mortals tremble, and girls need private moments with themselves.

You chose well.

I may have a Ducati, but I fucking love that TLR. He let me ride it once.. punk was supposed to bring it down this weekend, but he pussied out. So I missed out on riding it again... next week, though. :drool: :drool:

I may get to have another private moment with it. :D

[Dnyce]

Oh, I almost forgot. I pulled the motor and ported / polished the heads and valves, and bumped the compression a little by leaving off the base gasket between the block and the cylinder.

That presented me with a unique problem though. Now, the thing bangs the rev limiter like a raped ape and scared the holy shit out of me the first time it did it, it was so quick. I *really* need another 1500 rpm in revs, so if anybody happens to know where I can get my grubby little hands on a factory race kit Yoshimura computer (adjustable rev limiter) I would be very grateful..


two things. why not just mill the head and keep the base gasket? i never built a tl engine, but in general i would mill the head, or even get a dif size (thickness) gasket, but never ditch the gasket.

and why are there no pics of this tlr u speak of? it sounds badass, i wana see it:drool:

[Archren]

two things. why not just mill the head and keep the base gasket? i never built a tl engine, but in general i would mill the head, or even get a dif size (thickness) gasket, but never ditch the gasket.

and why are there no pics of this tlr u speak of? it sounds badass, i wana see it:drool:

He posted it in a different thread... and since he's sitting next to me, he gave me his blessing. :D

I love this bike. :drool: I also forbade him to *ever* sell it... on pain of death.

[Dnyce]

that is the sweetness

with those colors, bet u get asked -"what kinda gixxer is that?" probably cant hear em with the yosh tho. nice

[OneSickPsycho]

that is the sweetness

with those colors, bet u get asked -"what kinda gixxer is that?" probably cant hear em with the yosh tho. nice

I could see that... It probably wouldn't happen to me, but if it did I think I'd be obligated to cockwhip the retard...

[Cutty72]

If Kevin gets his shit together that would put the 1125 right up top of my next bike list.



In the final fitment and dyno stage now.
My goal is to have one on Vader before the first ride of the spring. :drool:

[Quick281]

Congrats on the new bike. That Vtwin does indeed sounds wicked.

[dReWpY]

i know what you mean about feeling slow compared to the I-4 it takes a lil getting used to, but i think the power all over more then makes up for the lack of a huge 185+ top end

[smileyman]

I am so F'n jealous. I loved the TLRs. I remember racing at TWS the first year they came out and the EMGO Suzuki team was there. Boy those things sounded sweet on the banking! Awesome bike dude! Have fun with her!

[pickle.of.doom]

Nice ride dude :dthumb:

[fnfalman]

Suzuki should at least bring back the TLR engine (not the SV1000 water down version) and put it to good use.

[marko138]

Suzuki should at least bring back the TLR engine (not the SV1000 water down version) and put it to good use.
Agreed.

[G-Rex]

that is the sweetness

with those colors, bet u get asked -"what kinda gixxer is that?" probably cant hear em with the yosh tho. nice

I do get asked that question quite a bit. I just laugh. It's really funny when I pull up next to a Harley, and you watch them trying to process it. *It sounds like a v-twin, but it looks like a sportbike. What the hell?* :lol:

As for the base gaskets being left out, I used the gasket sealer material that is used for jetski motors in place of the gaskets. She hasn't complained a bit, and I have over 12k on it since I did the motor work. :D

[fnfalman]

Agreed.

Like, say, in a V-Strom that actually has offroad suspension and semi-knobbies.

[FT BSTRD]

Like, say, in a V-Strom that actually has offroad suspension and semi-knobbies.


The V-Strom is the ugliest, soulless piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure to ride.

[Particle Man]

The V-Strom is the ugliest, soulless piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure to ride.

then you weren't riding it correctly...

[FT BSTRD]

then you weren't riding it correctly...


No, I'm pretty sure I was riding it just as it was intended to be ridden.

It was like straddling a Frigidaire with handling to match.

[OneSickPsycho]

i know what you mean about feeling slow compared to the I-4 it takes a lil getting used to, but i think the power all over more then makes up for the lack of a huge 185+ top end

I got over that as I had unintentional wheelspin rolling out of the parking lot at work tonight...

[Antwanny]

yes be prepared to get angry when the retards say hey nice gixxer do you stunt?
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[TommyHotWheel]

Oh boy...welcome to the dark side. Start with...airbox mod, charging system mod, fan switch mod, I went 16 front and 40 rear sprockets...gotta check for sure, 520 conversion, have the suspension set up for you, Yosh full exhaust, smart TRE, pair valve mod, power commander, 98 Dodge Caravan Fuel Pump(trust me...remember this!) and I think you can drain the stock fluid from the steering damper and run 2.5 oil in the stock damper is pretty good. Here are some sites. I went with PM Chicane wheels on mine...trust us...get lighter wheels.

http://chucksirois.com/TL1000/FAQ.htm

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/homepage.php

[OneSickPsycho]

Oh boy...welcome to the dark side. Start with...airbox mod, charging system mod, fan switch mod, I went 14 front and 22 rear sprockets...gotta check for sure, 520 conversion, have the suspension set up for you, Yosh full exhaust, smart TRE, pair valve mod, power commander, 98 Dodge Caravan Fuel Pump(trust me...remember this!) and I think you can drain the stock fluid from the steering damper and run 2.5 oil in the stock damper is pretty good. Here are some sites. I went with PM Chicane wheels on mine...trust us...get lighter wheels.

http://chucksirois.com/TL1000/FAQ.htm

http://www.tlzone.net/forums/homepage.php

Jesus fucking christ... let's start by walking me through the cheap/free mods....

[TommyHotWheel]

I'll see if I can find the links when I get home. The free mods are Airbox...charging system is cheap, just wires and a fuse...pair valve mod needs some block off plates fabbed...maybe Leon or someone has some or can get some?...fan switch is cheap....and the steering damper is under $20. The sites I listed have everything and parting out a few bikes, take a look around and see what tickles your giblets.

[TommyHotWheel]

And if ya really want to do a quick, cheap mod...drill out the rivets and remove the baffling in your stock cans, you can even cut them down and paint or coat them. I have seen this done with good success and it looks cool with the engine paints on the shelves today.

[OneSickPsycho]

I'll see if I can find the links when I get home. The free mods are Airbox...charging system is cheap, just wires and a fuse...pair valve mod needs some block off plates fabbed...maybe Leon or someone has some or can get some?...fan switch is cheap....and the steering damper is under $20. The sites I listed have everything and parting out a few bikes, take a look around and see what tickles your giblets.

I had trouble finding a good, comprehensive breakdown of the pair valve removal... Links to all would be appreciated...

And if ya really want to do a quick, cheap mod...drill out the rivets and remove the baffling in your stock cans, you can even cut them down and paint or coat them. I have seen this done with good success and it looks cool with the engine paints on the shelves today.

I already have Yosh bolt-ons, so no need to hack anything...

[G-Rex]

Oh boy...welcome to the dark side. Start with...airbox mod

I'll get burned at the stake for saying this, but....

Be careful with the airbox mod. I know more people who have had trouble with it than not. I haven't done it yet for that reason, but I did find a spare airbox on Ebay to cut up and play with when I get ready.

The TRE is a good mod, as is the PAIR valve removal. If you want to really have a scary ride, change around the sprockets. I tried a -1 in the front and the thing likes to wheelie even more now than it did before.

Also, re: the 520 conversion. Think long and hard about that one. Personally, I wouldn't run a 520 conversion on a liter bike. I've seen the carnage that results. It's not pretty. Think *new motor*.

[OneSickPsycho]

I'll get burned at the stake for saying this, but....

Be careful with the airbox mod. I know more people who have had trouble with it than not. I haven't done it yet for that reason, but I did find a spare airbox on Ebay to cut up and play with when I get ready.

The TRE is a good mod, as is the PAIR valve removal. If you want to really have a scary ride, change around the sprockets. I tried a -1 in the front and the thing likes to wheelie even more now than it did before.

Also, re: the 520 conversion. Think long and hard about that one. Personally, I wouldn't run a 520 conversion on a liter bike. I've seen the carnage that results. It's not pretty. Think *new motor*.

Motor issues with 520 conversion... I fail to see how...

[G-Rex]

Easy. 520 chainsets typically are recommended for 750cc and down motorcycles by the major chain manufacturers. If you put a 520 chain on a liter bike, there's a chance it will never give you trouble. There's also the chance that it will give, sending the chain hurtling through your crankcase at speed. Believe me when I say that holes that big are not repairable with JB Weld.

Sure, racer guys use 520s. However, they also change out their chain and sprockets every race or two.

It's up to you of course, but I've always been of the opinion the weight savings in the chain/sprocket area wasn't enough to make it a chance I was willing to take.

[fnfalman]

I've been running 520 chain and sprockets on my Tuono for two years now. It wears out a lot quicker than 525 chain and sprockets but otherwise, I like it a lot better. Faster acceleration.

[marko138]

The absolute MEANEST bike I've ever heard is the Buell XBRR. Insanely loud and sounded like it was fueled by inhaling children.

[dReWpY]

if the pair mod is anything like the rc, its worth doing

[MikeSP1]

Easy. 520 chainsets typically are recommended for 750cc and down motorcycles by the major chain manufacturers. If you put a 520 chain on a liter bike, there's a chance it will never give you trouble. There's also the chance that it will give, sending the chain hurtling through your crankcase at speed. Believe me when I say that holes that big are not repairable with JB Weld.

Sure, racer guys use 520s. However, they also change out their chain and sprockets every race or two.

It's up to you of course, but I've always been of the opinion the weight savings in the chain/sprocket area wasn't enough to make it a chance I was willing to take.

Not to mention what'll happen to you leg when that SOB comes hurtling forward and literally whips around your ankle as it heads forward to shread apart your motor.

[marko138]

Belt drive FTW.

[marko138]

Only a fucking Bueller...
:lol: What else am I gonna say? :lol:

[MikeSP1]

:lol: What else am I gonna say? :lol:

I was gonna put a smiley in there, but I couldn't figure how to do it while editing, so I deleted it thinking I was just gonna reply before you screwed everythin up. I guess it's cool that you don't have to worry about chain slack, however I had to help one my buddies reinstall the belt tensioner after he put his exhaust back on. Talk about a pain in the ass. After that experience, I'd much rather stick to 530 chains.

[marko138]

I was gonna put a smiley in there, but I couldn't figure how to do it while editing, so I deleted it thinking I was just gonna reply before you screwed everythin up. I guess it's cool that you don't have to worry about chain slack, however I had to help one my buddies reinstall the belt tensioner after he put his exhaust back on. Talk about a pain in the ass. After that experience, I'd much rather stick to 530 chains.
I haven't had to do that...but I hear the bearings wear out on the idler pulley (tensioner)...can't wait to replace those. :lol:

[MikeSP1]

I haven't had to do that...but I hear the bearings wear out on the idler pulley (tensioner)...can't wait to replace those. :lol:

If it's anything like his XB12, I had no fun putting the tensioner back on. I literally had the rear tire off the ground trying to get some sag out of it so he could just slip the tensioner on, no go. (I'm 130# holding the back of his Buell in the air).

[marko138]

If it's anything like his XB12, I had no fun putting the tensioner back on. I literally had the rear tire off the ground trying to get some sag out of it so he could just slip the tensioner on, no go. (I'm 130# holding the back of his Buell in the air).
Hopefully I never have to take it off. Exhaust is already done...I'll probly get rid of the bike before the bearings are shot.

[Particle Man]

I got over that as I had unintentional wheelspin rolling out of the parking lot at work tonight...

torque ftw :)

[dReWpY]

yeah, that never gets old

[Particle Man]

yeah, that never gets old

the 0-70 always has a massive grin factor

[dReWpY]

0-70, then i shift into 2nd... ;)

[Particle Man]

0-70, then i shift into 2nd... ;)

not in the weather we're having here you don't :lol:

[Tmall]

I was gonna put a smiley in there, but I couldn't figure how to do it while editing, so I deleted it thinking I was just gonna reply before you screwed everythin up. I guess it's cool that you don't have to worry about chain slack, however I had to help one my buddies reinstall the belt tensioner after he put his exhaust back on. Talk about a pain in the ass. After that experience, I'd much rather stick to 530 chains.

Next time loosen the rear wheel axel nut about 6 or 7 turns. It slips right on, and there's no adjustment of the rear wheel you just tighten it back up to 23-27 ft lbs. then loosen it 2 turns again and re-tighten to 48-52. Then you tighten the pinch bolt to 40-45.

[TommyHotWheel]

I was gonna say to use a high flow air filter, I run K&N, but they need a re-map with the filter and exhaust. My bike came with a 520 conversion on it and I dont really do much more than a few hundred highway miles at a time or city commuting, no track days so far, so I cant speak for how they hold up to a little ripping on them. I did switch to a Vortex rear sprocket, you will really want to save any weight you can. I will get you some links in a bit.

[TommyHotWheel]

Charging system mod...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/85339-charging-system-mod.html


Pair Mod...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/62520-definitive-pair-system-removal-guide.html

Also, if the long throw of the throttle puts you off a bit, you can put a Rifleman's 1/5 insert in or like me, I used the throttle tube from a 2001 Yamaha R1 or R6.


Fan switch...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/181-fan-switch.html


Airbox mod....http://www.carlsalter.com/tlrairboxmod.html

[MikeSP1]

Next time loosen the rear wheel axel nut about 6 or 7 turns. It slips right on, and there's no adjustment of the rear wheel you just tighten it back up to 23-27 ft lbs. then loosen it 2 turns again and re-tighten to 48-52. Then you tighten the pinch bolt to 40-45.

Hindight is 20/20 and we got the damn thing back on. I've only ridden a Buell once, and it was this guys. We swapped his Buell for my Honda one night heading to Denny's. I will never own or ride a Buell again. I'm not hating mind you, I simply have a preference for the riding position of my RC over his XB, and the fact that I can shift my RC out of first when leaned over with no problems.

[OneSickPsycho]

Easy. 520 chainsets typically are recommended for 750cc and down motorcycles by the major chain manufacturers. If you put a 520 chain on a liter bike, there's a chance it will never give you trouble. There's also the chance that it will give, sending the chain hurtling through your crankcase at speed. Believe me when I say that holes that big are not repairable with JB Weld.

Sure, racer guys use 520s. However, they also change out their chain and sprockets every race or two.

It's up to you of course, but I've always been of the opinion the weight savings in the chain/sprocket area wasn't enough to make it a chance I was willing to take.

Look at the tensile strengths of the various chain sizes... No bike runs them anywhere near capacity... The wear problem however could pose issues and breakage without defect or lack of maintenance is unlikely.


Next time loosen the rear wheel axel nut about 6 or 7 turns. It slips right on, and there's no adjustment of the rear wheel you just tighten it back up to 23-27 ft lbs. then loosen it 2 turns again and re-tighten to 48-52. Then you tighten the pinch bolt to 40-45.

Yeah, the tensioner is ridiculously EASY if you go about it the right way...

Charging system mod...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/85339-charging-system-mod.html


Pair Mod...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/62520-definitive-pair-system-removal-guide.html

Also, if the long throw of the throttle puts you off a bit, you can put a Rifleman's 1/5 insert in or like me, I used the throttle tube from a 2001 Yamaha R1 or R6.


Fan switch...http://www.tlzone.net/forums/frequent-tl-mods/181-fan-switch.html


Airbox mod....http://www.carlsalter.com/tlrairboxmod.html

I'll have to check that out when I'm less than 6 pitchers deep.

[Ninjakel]

Leon's TL had the 520, he never had any issues.

[marko138]

Yeah, the tensioner is ridiculously EASY if you go about it the right way...


.

Good to know. I've got the factory service manual (as should ALL Buell owners)...so it should be proper in there should I ever need to change it.

[OneSickPsycho]

Good to know. I've got the factory service manual (as should ALL Buell owners)...so it should be proper in there should I ever need to change it.

Tmall's description was right on, though I don't remember the torque settings nor did I ever use them.... I'd just take the rear wheel off though, unless you didn't have stands or a jack... Taking off the rear wheel is seriously like a 2 minute job... one minute of that is looking for the bigass allen wrenches.

[marko138]

Got rear stand. Shouldn't be an issue. I do need a front triple stand tho.

[OneSickPsycho]

Got rear stand. Shouldn't be an issue. I do need a front triple stand tho.

I have a $50 motorcycle/ATV jack from Harbor Freight... Underslung exhuast/jack point FTW.

[marko138]

I've thought about that. I like stands better...and my cousin has one should I need to jack it up.

[Tmall]

I always just lift the rear a bit, kick a wooden box I have underneath it. And set it on it's kickstand. The rear is off the ground about 1/4 inch and muffler is made to support the weight if you have the jack point positioned properly. This way works for both wheels. I've removed the front and the rear using it.

This winter, I'll be tying it off to the rafters by the rear pegs and doing some maintenance to it. It's cheaper than stands and does the exact same job.

[DLIT]

Tight as fuck. Even swap is even more killer.

[Carolina]

Tight as fuck. Even swap is even more killer.

yup just like ur wife


oh yeah nice ride OSP

[OneSickPsycho]

Before:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IM000440.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IM000439.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IM000441.jpg



Inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BhHTA6Gzn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avwxZX_pYXU

I want to make the bike the TLS should have been... starting promptly at the beginning of the new year... stay tuned.

[dReWpY]

subscribed

[OneSickPsycho]

Despite the videos... I don't plan on painting it black :lol:... Just realized that...:wtfru:

Should be interesting anyway.

[CasterTroy]

:lol:

Glad you cleared that up

[Particle Man]

Sweet. Either way it's a sweet ride.

[OneSickPsycho]

Sweet. Either way it's a sweet ride.

It's ok... it's going to be fucking awesome though. ;)

[Homeslice]

TLR riding position is nice. More distance to the bars than today's bikes. Hate the tail, though.

[Rangerscott]

The yellow doesnt get rid of the ugly sadly.

[OneSickPsycho]

:whistle:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IMG_3445.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IMG_3447.jpg

[derf]

The yellow doesnt get rid of the ugly sadly.

He's right, you got rid of most of the yellow, and its still ugly

[fnfalman]

Hataz gonna hate.

[OneSickPsycho]

The yellow too, shall be gone. Due time, due time...

[Adeptus_Minor]

Hey...what's wrong with the yellow? :nee:

[Rangerscott]

I like yellow.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ftl4VsDkX5g/SpdVWiRP3mI/AAAAAAAAAOw/bs_F6RmaNuc/s1600-h/2000%2520vfr%2520right%2520front.jpg

[Hydrant]

Typically when it comes to TL's yellow is slower.


Yes yes I said it.

:whatwhat:


Blue / white FTW

[OneSickPsycho]

Typically when it comes to TL's yellow is slower.


Yes yes I said it.

:whatwhat:


Blue / white FTW

Funny, I've always heard the opposite...

[G-Rex]

Funny, I've always heard the opposite...

You heard wrong. :wtfru:

[OneSickPsycho]

You heard wrong. :wtfru:

How fast is a stripped bare version?

[Hydrant]

G-Rex's isn't one that I would really go comparing other TL's to (at least mine). His has had a few mod's done to it.

[G-Rex]

G-Rex's isn't one that I would really go comparing other TL's to (at least mine). His has had a few mod's done to it.

LOL true that Geoff. I posted a few pics earlier in this thread.

Knowing OSP and his penchant for stripping stuff down, it'll be about as light as mine, then he just needs to work over the motor.

Go back a few pages. I gave him a blow by blow of what he needs to do to that bike. Speaking of, you need to do all of it to yours too. What are you waiting on? LOL

[Hydrant]

I'm waiting for you to come up to Cincy to help pull the motor apart, and we shall go from there. Or how about if I yank the motor, and send it your way.

[Hydrant]

Unfortunately, for me and the TL, I really haven't dove into any major mods recently. The only things I've done was the full Yoshi exhaust with Ti cans, Ohlins rear, stainless lines, baseplate mod, Ivans TRE, BMF air filter, and dyno tuned with Yosh box. I need to dive into it this winter and do some more stuff.

[OneSickPsycho]

Aside from styling... the plan includes...

PAIR removal and flapperectomy... if not already done [found the TRE when I took the fairings off]

All those electrical mods - those gremlins are probably whats causing it not to start... going as far as to consider the SV coils...

Still debating the airbox mod... good filter at least...

flashed ECU...

chain/sprockets... gonna stay 530 just in case...prolly going with -1/+2.....

Showa shock mod, unless I can find a sick deal on a really good one

[Hydrant]

My stock chain snapped on me about 5 yrs ago with 12K miles. I don't think it was user error. I'm pretty good with maintenance and keeping it lubed and adjusted properly. But for a replacement I went with the following. I stayed with the stock 530 size. I don't know if you remember Flood from CF, but he had a heavily worked over TLR and put a 520 on there and the chain let loose and took the block out with it, IIRC. G-rex can probably remember what happened better than I.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Hydrant/110_1022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Hydrant/110_1021.jpg



Here is the stock chain, it got caught in the bolts that hold the sprocket to the cush, and wedging itself in the swingarm, bringing the rear tire to a stop at 50 mph.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Hydrant/109_0991.jpg

[LeeNetworX]

Not bad!

rc 51
Buell Xb
Tlr

My three favourite sounding bikes. And I WILL own an RC in the near future.

I love hearing an RC 51 at high RPMs.

[OneSickPsycho]

My stock chain snapped on me about 5 yrs ago with 12K miles. I don't think it was user error. I'm pretty good with maintenance and keeping it lubed and adjusted properly. But for a replacement I went with the following. I stayed with the stock 530 size. I don't know if you remember Flood from CF, but he had a heavily worked over TLR and put a 520 on there and the chain let loose and took the block out with it, IIRC. G-rex can probably remember what happened better than I.
g[/IMG]

If I were to go 520, I'd dump the cheddar and go with Sidewinder shit... no need to worrry about that shit - their 520 chains are rated double some 530 chains. I'm not racing though, so the extra $100+ prolly ain't worth it...

[z06boy]

I love hearing an RC 51 at high RPMs.

They do sound good.

[Gas Man]

YUM I love the smell of new parts in the morning.

[OneSickPsycho]

Some disassembly this evening... found that not only does my bike have the TRE, but also already has the airbox mod... however, it still has the PAIR valve - WTF.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IMG_3516.jpg

Anyway, that's a project for another day, but the hack job removing the flappers and sealing it with some kind of construction adhesive is worth a look.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IMG_3509.jpg

Not sure how I want to go about redoing that... maybe get a stock airbox and start over...

Oh and WTF is this that I found hiding under the steering head?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/IMG_3517-1.jpg

[Hydrant]

Looks like the connection for the horn.

horn is located above the top radiator

[OneSickPsycho]

Looks like the connection for the horn.

horn is located above the top radiator

Doh! I'm a fucking moron... I knew that when I first found it when I took off my fairings... then I forgot... many a beer between then and now...

[Hydrant]

You'll have that on the larger scale projects.

I've done that too. You think you know what every connection is, but a few weeks go by, and then its time to get out the ol' dealer manual and start searching.


I think I'm going to do some more airbox work, brakes / rotors, and get a new clutch. I put new fluid in over the summer, SS lines a few years back and still doesn't have the bite it used to.

[Dave]

Doh! I'm a fucking moron... I knew that when I first found it when I took off my fairings... then I forgot... many a beer between then and now...

gotta grab one off of a caravan, they come with a big snail around em and get pretty loud

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/0915091853.jpg

[tommymac]

You'll have that on the larger scale projects.

I've done that too. You think you know what every connection is, but a few weeks go by, and then its time to get out the ol' dealer manual and start searching.


I think I'm going to do some more airbox work, brakes / rotors, and get a new clutch. I put new fluid in over the summer, SS lines a few years back and still doesn't have the bite it used to.

Are the clutches on the S and the R similar? I need to replace the clutch on my S. I picked up a clear cover and an annodized pressure plate. When I last tried running the bike I had a major oil leak, wasnt sure if the pushrod seal went or was from the countershaft.

[OneSickPsycho]

gotta grab one off of a caravan, they come with a big snail around em and get pretty loud

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b369/Khajjathefang/0915091853.jpg

I have my mini airhorn on my truck... it never worked (has an internal short), so I might rip that thing off, fix it, and run that... Just depends on if I have the real estate for it.... things should be pretty tight on this build.

[tommymac]

I have my mini airhorn on my truck... it never worked (has an internal short), so I might rip that thing off, fix it, and run that... Just depends on if I have the real estate for it.... things should be pretty tight on this build.

any space on the subframe, a friend mounted a horn like that on his ducati there.

[Hydrant]

Are the clutches on the S and the R similar? I need to replace the clutch on my S. I picked up a clear cover and an annodized pressure plate. When I last tried running the bike I had a major oil leak, wasnt sure if the pushrod seal went or was from the countershaft.


That I don't know.

Where did you get your anodized pressure plate from?

I've got the riflemans clear cover.


I need to get back over to TLzone to see what's the latest and greatest, haven't been over there for a while.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Hydrant/042.jpg

[tommymac]

That I don't know.

Where did you get your anodized pressure plate from?

I've got the riflemans clear cover.


I need to get back over to TLzone to see what's the latest and greatest, haven't been over there for a while.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v127/Hydrant/042.jpg

I honestly dont remember, it wa sone of the GB's on tlzone, not sure if it was rifleman who made them, I got a few other bits as well from them.

[OneSickPsycho]

any space on the subframe, a friend mounted a horn like that on his ducati there.

There would be if I wasn't planning on relocating the battery and as much of the electronics as possible in there... oh, and chopping half of that shit off...

[tommymac]

There would be if I wasn't planning on relocating the battery and as much of the electronics as possible in there... oh, and chopping half of that shit off...

Fine, I wont offer any ideas anymore :lol:

If thats the case could you squeeze one in the old battery tray or something else is going there.

[OneSickPsycho]

Fine, I wont offer any ideas anymore :lol:

If thats the case could you squeeze one in the old battery tray or something else is going there.

Actually, that's a pretty solid idea... I could make a bracket to hold it there, but the whole idea of moving the battery was to lose the ugliness on the side, so in that case I might as well keep the battery there... :lol:

Shit, I think I might just leave the battery there... That would be much easier than rerouting all that wiring... I'll probably just get a nifty battery box cover or something...

[Hydrant]

OSP
Group buy for steel sprockets and 520 chain

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81788

[Cutty72]

OSP
Group buy for steel sprockets and 520 chain

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81788

I'll have to check this to see if I can get some for the SV...
Registering now.

[Hydrant]

TL Streetfighter ideas

http://www.chucksirois.com/TL1000/fighter-skin/fighter-skin.htm

[No Worries]

OSP
Group buy for steel sprockets and 520 chain

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81788

I couldn't get on that site, but chains were just discussed in another thread. Here's some facts:

DID 630 O-ring, tensile strength- 11,000 lbs
DID 530 X-ring, tensile strength- 9,760 lbs
DID 520 X-ring, tensile strength- 6,830 lbs

Why put on a weaker chain than stock?

[pickle.of.doom]

TL Streetfighter ideas

http://www.chucksirois.com/TL1000/fighter-skin/fighter-skin.htm

That is sick. Love the brass knuckle theme. The coolant overflow is a sweet idea too. Nicely done fighter whoever did that.

[tommymac]

I couldn't get on that site, but chains were just discussed in another thread. Here's some facts:

DID 630 O-ring, tensile strength- 11,000 lbs
DID 530 X-ring, tensile strength- 9,760 lbs
DID 520 X-ring, tensile strength- 6,830 lbs

Why put on a weaker chain than stock?

gotta shave off those extra ounces of unsprung weight LOL

[Hydrant]

I couldn't get on that site, but chains were just discussed in another thread. Here's some facts:

DID 630 O-ring, tensile strength- 11,000 lbs
DID 530 X-ring, tensile strength- 9,760 lbs
DID 520 X-ring, tensile strength- 6,830 lbs

Why put on a weaker chain than stock?



I'm with ya, but it's not my bike. He just mentioned that he was interested in the 520 conversion. I have the DID 530 chain and AFAM steel sprockets on mine when I had to replace it.

[OneSickPsycho]

OSP
Group buy for steel sprockets and 520 chain

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81788

Did it yesterday... and FYI, the tensile strength of the stock chain is 9,330lbs, whereas the RK isn't far off at 8,800lbs. If it stretches too much, I'll swap it back to 530. The price was right and a lot of other guys are running 530 without issue, so I'm going to take the risk.

TL Streetfighter ideas

http://www.chucksirois.com/TL1000/fighter-skin/fighter-skin.htm

I'm ALL over that site.

[OneSickPsycho]

Parts ordered yesterday - 520 chain conversion kit up two teeth on the rear... headlights... gonna look for more shit today...

[dReWpY]

the chain mod will make a big difference, more on the gearing then the size change but still will be very noticeable

[OneSickPsycho]

the chain mod will make a big difference, more on the gearing then the size change but still will be very noticeable

I know, I got a semi-chub just ordering it... should be real interesting when I do the 1/5 throttle insert mod.

[dReWpY]

another thing i did to the rc that made it a beast... ur on the right track to a hellva ride

[OneSickPsycho]

another thing i did to the rc that made it a beast... ur on the right track to a hellva ride

Plus I'd like to hack off about 50lbs...

[dReWpY]

Plus I'd like to hack off about 50lbs...

what would that put you @ 185#'s???

:lol

[G-Rex]

I know, I got a semi-chub just ordering it... should be real interesting when I do the 1/5 throttle insert mod.

I have my TLR geared right now at stock in the front, 3 up in the rear. The front *will* come up very easily with almost any amount of throttle up through 3rd gear. You better have a few changes of underwear handy. You'll need them.

Plus I'd like to hack off about 50lbs...

I've dropped about 30-40 lbs off of my bike, thanks to liberal use of magnesium and titanium. You'll be amazed at the difference it will make. Even more so if you'd buy some damn magnesium wheels. ;)

[Dave]

I know, I got a semi-chub just ordering it... should be real interesting when I do the 1/5 throttle insert mod.

A lot of gsxr and honda guys use stock r1/r6 throttle tubes. Ought to work on the tlr as well and its like $15

[OneSickPsycho]

what would that put you @ 185#'s???

:lol

No, I wish... That's 50lbs off the bike... I'd like to do another 75 off me...

:squint:

I have my TLR geared right now at stock in the front, 3 up in the rear. The front *will* come up very easily with almost any amount of throttle up through 3rd gear. You better have a few changes of underwear handy. You'll need them.



I've dropped about 30-40 lbs off of my bike, thanks to liberal use of magnesium and titanium. You'll be amazed at the difference it will make. Even more so if you'd buy some damn magnesium wheels. ;)

It's about damn time I learned throttle control...

I am down for some light wheels, but there is no way in hell I'm even close to ready to drop the cheddar... Still looking for that sweet deal where some guy crashed his race bike, then his wife took it in the divorce, and she doesn't know what Marchesini or Ohlins means...

A lot of gsxr and honda guys use stock r1/r6 throttle tubes. Ought to work on the tlr as well and its like $15

It does, but you can also hack a peice of $0.10 PVC pipe and make your own insert... which is what I plan on doing...

[dReWpY]

that or the zip tye mod works well to

[OneSickPsycho]

that or the zip tye mod works well to

Yeah, I have some reservations about using a zip tie... either way, it's cheap and effective...

[dReWpY]

i did the zip tye to the zx6, worked fine, for the rc i sucked it up and ordered a HRC throttle tube

[OneSickPsycho]

Moar parts ordered today...

unmolested airbox w/ K&N filter off eBay for under $50!

SV1000 coils (not needed, just hotter)

Also upgrading the crap stocker R/R... so I bought a MOSFET R/R...

[Rangerscott]

Nigga. I got an airbox with k&n for around$ 15 off of ebay. Sit back down. I wish i could get a deal on a better filter for my er6n. Im not paying $75 for one.

I like the coil idea. Those are pretty much standard two wire connections and screw on spark plug wire arent they? I wonder if RC51's run hotter than my vfr's. Of course electrical isnt hondas bread & butter so i eont want my bike turning into the human torch.

[OneSickPsycho]

Nigga. I got an airbox with k&n for around$ 15 off of ebay. Sit back down. I wish i could get a deal on a better filter for my er6n. Im not paying $75 for one.

I like the coil idea. Those are pretty much standard two wire connections and screw on spark plug wire arent they? I wonder if RC51's run hotter than my vfr's. Of course electrical isnt hondas bread & butter so i eont want my bike turning into the human torch.

Whatever jerk, I thought it was a hell of a deal considering the TLR guys sell the filter alone for about what I paid for everything...

I'm sure there's something on the VFR forums about the coil mod if it does anything for you...

[Rangerscott]

I got lucky on it. The title just said air box with filter. Love it when people dont know what theyre selling. Now i have a backup. Its the same way i got my throttlemeister for $15. Just said bar ends.


I really need to replace my O2 sensors. Theyre filthy. Also need to get on the ball with the 6th gen throttlebody swap.

[OneSickPsycho]

I got lucky on it. The title just said air box with filter. Love it when people dont know what theyre selling. Now i have a backup. Its the same way i got my throttlemeister for $15. Just said bar ends.


I really need to replace my O2 sensors. Theyre filthy. Also need to get on the ball with the 6th gen throttlebody swap.

Yeah, I just placed a bid on another one... same deal, but $9.99... I figure I can sell one on the forums when someone needs it and make a couple of bucks...

[fnfalman]

Why go with mag wheels? Might as well go whole hog with carbon fiber rims.

[OneSickPsycho]

Why go with mag wheels? Might as well go whole hog with carbon fiber rims.

It's called a budget... and I have one.

However, older Aprilia RSV Mille wheels fit with minimal effort... and shave off a couple of lbs... If you pay attention, you can get a set shipped from eBay for under $400... that's on the 'down the road' list... though, I'm always on the lookout for a wrecked Busa, TL, or certain SRAD's with light wheels and upgraded forks for cheap...

[Rangerscott]

Found the vid I've been looking for for awhile now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiLTQHRA0gw&feature=related

[dReWpY]

if i could trade my buell for a SP2 with sato bansi pipes i would be all over that deal!

[Adeptus_Minor]

Found the vid I've been looking for for awhile now.


Thosa Hondas... dem go 'WeeeeOooWWeeeeOoooooWeeeOooo"

[OneSickPsycho]

Been a while...

Not a lot to report...

Tinkered around with the solo seat setup a few times, never got anything to my liking, but I think I got it figured out this weekend... Also, since the last update, I pulled the front brake master and replaced it with one from a Busa - looks way better... replaced the R/R with the MOSFET deal...

Finally sorted out the wiring over the weekend as well... re-routing the battery to under the seat... tore apart pretty much the entire wiring harness and rebuilt it... now everything can be hidden behind the frame spars...

This weekend I will be hacking/extending the wires to the gauge cluster and the starter relay so they can go where I need them...

From there... all I need to do:

1) finish solo seat - thinking thin plastic lining the inside of the subframe (UHMW most likely) as a battery/electronics box... a fitted piece of aluminum on the rear to mount brake lights... and eventually, I'll make a fiberglass fairing of some sort...

2) make a sealed fuse box and mount it where the battery went...

3) brackets to mount the gauges on top of the tank right in front of the steering damper, some to mount the head lights (fog lights) onto the radiator...

4) exhaust mounting brackets... thinking of 1/2" AL that I have laying around, cutting it into 3/4" strips and bending it at the proper angle to use the passenger peg mounts... Not exactly sure how I'm going to go about that though...

5) make the tail lights and signals (acrylic block with LED's mounted inside, should be interesting)

From there it will be mobile...

Then I need new tires, finish the PAIR valve removal (the guy sealed the vacuum tubes with screws, but I want to do it right with block off plates on the headers), swap chain/sprockets, and make a trick coolant overflow out of an old flask I have laying around...

I should be done by... well... let's just hope I finish...

[dReWpY]

I feel your pain

[OneSickPsycho]

Oh and I forgot mirrors... prolly bar end ones... not sure... probably forgot a 100 other things too...

Did I mention replacing the chain/sprockets? That's on a list somewhere too...

[marko138]

I feel your pain
Buell broken?

[Particle Man]

Oh and I forgot mirrors... prolly bar end ones... not sure... probably forgot a 100 other things too...

Did I mention replacing the chain/sprockets? That's on a list somewhere too...

Geez, dude :eek:

[Porkchop]

I feel your pain

Amen. The list I have wrote up to change the vf into a track bike is almost 2 pages long. Nothing like this list though...

[TommyHotWheel]

It's called a budget... and I have one.

However, older Aprilia RSV Mille wheels fit with minimal effort... and shave off a couple of lbs... If you pay attention, you can get a set shipped from eBay for under $400... that's on the 'down the road' list... though, I'm always on the lookout for a wrecked Busa, TL, or certain SRAD's with light wheels and upgraded forks for cheap...

Well...I cant ride mine anymore, its in pieces tho.

[OneSickPsycho]

Progress...

Today I hacked together some brackets and mounted new headlights:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000809.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000808.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000807.jpg

[OneSickPsycho]

Well...I cant ride mine anymore, its in pieces tho.

So you're going to give me your wheels?

[TommyHotWheel]

After you give me your money... I have a Carbon Fiber wrapped tank, carbon fiber fenders and Performance Machine Chicane wheels. The fairings are beat up from me getting punted by a car, but everything else is great. I dont wanna part it out, but its in Va. and I wont get it here in Michigan till summer.

[OneSickPsycho]

After you give me your money... I have a Carbon Fiber wrapped tank, carbon fiber fenders and Performance Machine Chicane wheels. The fairings are beat up from me getting punted by a car, but everything else is great. I dont wanna part it out, but its in Va. and I wont get it here in Michigan till summer.

So what are you trying to say... I can give you money, but you don't want to part it out?

[Mr Lefty]

So what are you trying to say... I can give you money, but you don't want to part it out?

Hell you can give me money and I'll give ya a Desmo I don't have... :lol:

[OneSickPsycho]

Hell you can give me money and I'll give ya a Desmo I don't have... :lol:

You could have given me your old bike... I would have done shit with it.

[TommyHotWheel]

So what are you trying to say... I can give you money, but you don't want to part it out?

Oh no...I'll part it, its just a shame to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/TommyHotWheel/100_1622.jpg

[OneSickPsycho]

Oh no...I'll part it, its just a shame to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/TommyHotWheel/100_1622.jpg

Does it still have the stock shock as in the pic?

Rearsets would be tits if the fucking bike wasn't already so hard on my knees... up an inch and back about half that, I'd imagine...

Those wheels lighter than stock?

In general, I'm on the lookout for: lighter wheels, aftermarket shock, belly pan and brackets, possibly front fender, rearsets that allow me to drop the pegs and draw them forward slightly... maybe an aftermarket steering damper if the deal's right... well, all this shit is if the deal's right LOL

[TommyHotWheel]

Does it still have the stock shock as in the pic?

Rearsets would be tits if the fucking bike wasn't already so hard on my knees... up an inch and back about half that, I'd imagine...

Those wheels lighter than stock?

In general, I'm on the lookout for: lighter wheels, aftermarket shock, belly pan and brackets, possibly front fender, rearsets that allow me to drop the pegs and draw them forward slightly... maybe an aftermarket steering damper if the deal's right... well, all this shit is if the deal's right LOL

The wheels are lighter, polished aluminum, the shock is a stocker thats been revalved and a different spring. The rearsets are ok, needs pegs and for a damper, use the stocker, replace the oil with 15wt, works like a pricey aftermarket unit. Belly pan is good on mine, front fender is carbon(GSXR I believe). I wont be down in Virginia Beach till after Christmas. The funny thing is I can get a yellow 2000 and a white 2001, just down the road for pennies on the dollar, a towing company by the beach picked them both up, but now I cant ride...Fuck.

[Particle Man]

Oh no...I'll part it, its just a shame to.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/TommyHotWheel/100_1622.jpgWow, I remember that pic. :(

[OneSickPsycho]

Did some work...

Used masking tape and cardboard to box in my subframe to make a tray for the ECU and battery out of fiberglass... total hack job:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000803-1.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000804-1.jpg

Turned out way better than expected - first fiberglass anything:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000900.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000909.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000908.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000910.jpg

I'm going to fill the gaps in on the sides with AL sheet, so you won't see how ugly it is...

Also extended five wires in the wiring harness about 18 inches, to allow for the gauge cluster mounting I want... Here it is set up, but it'll be up on the tank a bit more and the angle is off... it's just resting there:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000918.jpg

Couldn't resist snapping some shots of her all mocked up:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000913.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000912.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1000911.jpg

[dReWpY]

Looks a whole lot lighter and better

[Particle Man]

Looks like it wants to be rocked. Can't wait to see the finished product.

[OneSickPsycho]

Got out of work early... Did some work... Finalized the wiring runs and mapped out my exhaust hangers... Sorta figured out how I'm gonna mount the gauges.

So, I've come to the conclusion that wiring and running wires can suck my sweaty asshole... It took me FOREVER to figure out how to run everything so it wouldn't pinch or rub or burn and shit... Still not convinced I didn't fuck it up... I'm sure I'll find out a hundred or so miles from home.

I get it now... Why all the streetfighter guys start with old bikes... carbs... Air cooled... My next build... If I live through this one... Is certainly going to be something older and less electronically dependant.

[tommymac]

Looks a whole lot lighter and better

it will be a whole lot lighter when he gets rid of that paperweight or a rotary damper. Get a penske or a bitubo in there and you will be set.

[OneSickPsycho]

it will be a whole lot lighter when he gets rid of that paperweight or a rotary damper. Get a penske or a bitubo in there and you will be set.

Yeah is love to, but the budge wont let me....

[Particle Man]

Yeah, it's crazy the stupid amount of wiring in a modern motorcycle...

[OneSickPsycho]

Yeah, it's crazy the stupid amount of wiring in a modern motorcycle...

No shit... Honestly it was less the wires and more the 40 giant fucking connectors...

[Particle Man]

No shit... Honestly it was less the wires and more the 40 giant fucking connectors...

:lol: those too. And they're bolted to some of the weirdest parts of the damn frame....

[Porkchop]

Got out of work early... Did some work... Finalized the wiring runs and mapped out my exhaust hangers... Sorta figured out how I'm gonna mount the gauges.



What are you doing with the pipes? Are you shortening them? Or high mound?

[Adeptus_Minor]

What are you doing with the pipes? Are you shortening them? Or high mound?


Uhhh huhuhuh... he said 'mound'.. :lol:

[Particle Man]

Uhhh huhuhuh... he said 'mound'.. :lol:

:lol:

[tommymac]

What are you doing with the pipes? Are you shortening them? Or high mound?

I think the shorty pipes look like shit on the TL's but a nice set of high MOUNTS would look prety good

[OneSickPsycho]

What are you doing with the pipes? Are you shortening them? Or high mound?

For now they stay as-is... sorta the old school chopper look, minus the ugly shark fin bullshit:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/captain-america-chopper-profile-1.jpg

I think the shorty pipes look like shit on the TL's but a nice set of high MOUNTS would look prety good

Honestly I can't decide what the hell I'm doing back there... Shortening the cans has been the one thing I keep going back to, but I can't get any good info on the effects because 1/3 the guys who do it say it robs power significantly, 1/3 say it makes more power and the other 1/3 say there's no change.

Until I have the money to be pissing around with some different options and paying for dyno tuning, they'll stay long and strong. That said, I'd love to rock something like this, perhaps in a high mount:
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/zedxten/DSC00185Medium.jpg
http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac134/zedxten/DSC00186Medium.jpg

[OneSickPsycho]

Also looking at airbox mods currently... breathing is a big problem for these things, so I'm investigating what to do...

[tommymac]

Also looking at airbox mods currently... breathing is a big problem for these things, so I'm investigating what to do...

werent there a few mods with cutting out hte flapper valve or soemthing. I kinda remember that from the TL forums. I never did anything to my airbox though.

[marko138]

I think the shorty pipes look like shit on the TL's but a nice set of high MOUNTS would look prety good
Agree.


Damn, I still want a TL. Such awesome bikes.

[tommymac]

Agree.


Damn, I still want a TL. Such awesome bikes.

theres still a bunch of em out there. I am almost done taking the futura apart, just have th emotor and frame ot deal with, once thats done I will start bringing my tl parts over from my dads and hopefully do soem assembly over the winter.

[OneSickPsycho]

werent there a few mods with cutting out hte flapper valve or soemthing. I kinda remember that from the TL forums. I never did anything to my airbox though.

Yeah, the flapperectomy and filter base plate mods are done on mine... I was just poking around and found that there are a number of aftermarket airbox solutions out there that make significant improvments... and a number of DIY solutions with varying results. I'm trying to sift thorugh the garbage to find something definitive because from what I gather there's free HP to be found here... the Bimota's used the same engine, but got something like 10% more HP out of them, so there's something going on... hopefully it's free!

theres still a bunch of em out there. I am almost done taking the futura apart, just have th emotor and frame ot deal with, once thats done I will start bringing my tl parts over from my dads and hopefully do soem assembly over the winter after I give my wheels and rearsets to OSP.

Fixed.

[tommymac]

Yeah, the flapperectomy and filter base plate mods are done on mine... I was just poking around and found that there are a number of aftermarket airbox solutions out there that make significant improvments... and a number of DIY solutions with varying results. I'm trying to sift thorugh the garbage to find something definitive because from what I gather there's free HP to be found here... the Bimota's used the same engine, but got something like 10% more HP out of them, so there's something going on... hopefully it's free!



Fixed.

wheels AND rearsets asking for a lot arent we LOL

I am not sure if the rearsets on the S and R are the same.

[OneSickPsycho]

wheels AND rearsets asking for a lot arent we LOL

I am not sure if the rearsets on the S and R are the same.

Ok, ok... just the wheels then if I have to chose... ;)

Not sure either, but we both have R's so it wouldn't matter...

[tommymac]

Ok, ok... just the wheels then if I have to chose... ;)

Not sure either, but we both have R's so it wouldn't matter...

On the contrary, I have a 99 TLS

[Porkchop]

Uhhh huhuhuh... he said 'mound'.. :lol:

Stupid phone.... :lol:



Honestly I can't decide what the hell I'm doing back there.

The first thing I thought when I saw that rear end was a double center up. Like feed the pipes up under the subframe and have those two beasts coming out from under that squared off piece. I was even thinking mess with the kick angle a bit, instead of having them come out flat. I was also trying to figure if longer or shorter would look better. The problem is that that new fiberglass box looks lile it gets in the way of a center mount.

[OneSickPsycho]

On the contrary, I have a 99 TLS

Ah fuck me, I got my Tommy's mixed up...

[Particle Man]

Ah fuck me, I got my Tommy's mixed up...

One's taller...

[tommymac]

One's taller...

I am assuming that one would be me :lol:

[Particle Man]

I am assuming that one would be me :lol:

:lol: could be

[OneSickPsycho]

Worked for a few hours last night... didn't get shit done...

Fucked around trying to make exhaust mounts out of some 3/16" AL, but nothing came out to my standards... I think I need to rethink the way I was going about it...

Disabled my kickstand switch... the connector came off of the harness in a bad place and kept me from properly stuffing wires... plus the wire coming off the switch didn't have a good place to be ran, so fuck that thing. Bike won't start without the clutch engaged anyway so I'm not too worried.

I hate days like this...

[OneSickPsycho]

After a long layoff, I actually did a little work last weekend...

Made up a bracket to mount the gauges... I hate it, but it's functional. I'm going to bite the bullet and rivet a bracket directly to the tank. Now, how do you do that without getting a bunch of shavings in the tank? Or how do you get them out aftewards? Tips would be appreciated.

I also made the decision to run straight pipes... screwing around with mounting the exhaust, so fuck it. I'll get some slip in baffles and slash cut the ends... there are a number of TL guys who run this setup and say it isn't too bad...

As she sits:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1010051.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1010047.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1010049.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k259/onesickpsycho/P1010050.jpg