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11-25-2008, 05:50 PM

JoJoYZF

11-25-2008, 05:54 PM

4 hours, One stumped toe, Three fucked up knuckles, One trip to advance auto parts for a filter wrench, and a massively disfigured filter later.....and this SOB still doesn't want to come off. :panic:

Stab a hole in it with a screwdriver and use the leverage of that to start spinning it. Ive had to do this on my bike once and the mustang a couple times.

tlstreak

11-25-2008, 05:56 PM

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00960624000P

Best filter wrench ive ever owned

ceo012384

11-25-2008, 05:58 PM

Don't use the normal strap-type filter wrench. Use on of the 'import filter' wrenches. It has two curved pieces of metal that grab around the oil filter and a square hole in the end where you can insert a 3/8" ratchet. As you apply torque, the curved pieces tighten.

edit: like this
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410MX59EA1L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

In the future, buy a K&N oil filter, they have a 17mm nut welded on the end of them so you can tighten and loosen it with a socket. And that nut is pre-drilled for safety wire.

speedylocksmith

11-25-2008, 06:17 PM

I'm sorry, god is busy helping football players win football games, basketball players win basketball games, baseball players win baseball games and hockey players win hockey games. Please leave a message and I'm sure he'll get back to you when there aren't any sports going on :dthumb:

BobTheBiker

11-25-2008, 06:29 PM

two words. channel locks. I use them ALL the time on oil filters that refuse to come off. work like a freakin charm.

Amber Lamps

11-25-2008, 06:36 PM

Get a pair of these,filter pliers,and make fucking sure you put oil on the threads and "O" ring of the new filter!!! Oh and grab the filter at the base.

JARVIS518

11-25-2008, 06:42 PM

i have an amsoil filter wrench like the black one posted
works great

Amber Lamps

11-25-2008, 07:03 PM

i have an amsoil filter wrench like the black one posted
works great

I have something like that too but I had a bike that the filter was literally an inch away from the radiator,so I bought my pliers and I've been 100% happy with them.

HRCNICK11

11-25-2008, 07:51 PM

Ninjakel

11-25-2008, 07:58 PM

I have a K & N, a whole lot easier to get it off, at least for me. The last OEM one i had, I had to stab it with a screwdriver

JARVIS518

11-25-2008, 09:15 PM

I have something like that too but I had a bike that the filter was literally an inch away from the radiator,so I bought my pliers and I've been 100% happy with them.

ya my headers are in the way so i just use it to loosen it and then take it off the rest of the way with my hand

Gas Man

11-25-2008, 10:18 PM

I have something like that too but I had a bike that the filter was literally an inch away from the radiator,so I bought my pliers and I've been 100% happy with them.
I'm with tigger... got them and love them!!!

Amber Lamps

11-25-2008, 10:55 PM

I'm with tigger... got them and love them!!!

Besides,they are great when you change your oil hot. You have a grip on the filter and there is zero need to put your hands near the headers or get hot oil on them.

Rider

11-26-2008, 08:18 AM

Stab a hole in it with a screwdriver and use the leverage of that to start spinning it.

I've done this before.

JoJoYZF

11-26-2008, 12:48 PM

I've done this before.

Unfortunately I had to resort to this on my bike filter since the filter wrench U had was too big to grip the filter.

DIMford

11-26-2008, 01:41 PM

Next time tighten by hand then you can get it off by hand without need of any tools. You don't need them on there any tighter than that anyways.

z06boy

11-26-2008, 01:50 PM

I've had issues with oil filters before but these seem pale in comparion to what you're going through...when all else fails...just stab it.

Don't forget "lefty loosey" :lol:

I think I've maybe only had to do that once in my life as a last resort.

ceo012384

11-26-2008, 01:52 PM

Next time tighten by hand then you can get it off by hand without need of any tools. You don't need them on there any tighter than that anyways.
Stuff that seals fluid in always gets a little tighter after the engine/fluid gets hot...

z06boy

11-26-2008, 01:57 PM

Stuff that seals fluid in always gets a little tighter after the engine/fluid gets hot...

:lol: True but sounds like a condom commercial. :idk:

was92v

11-26-2008, 07:16 PM

I'm probably just weird, but I use a torque wrench to tighten my filter. It's out of the box anyway for the drain plug.

marko138

11-29-2008, 12:00 PM

I use K&N filters. Easy on, easy off.

JoshuaTree

11-29-2008, 12:19 PM

On my cars or truck, I've never had a problem with filters being "stuck" that I've put on, but I have had stuck filters when I've been traveling and have taken the vehicle into a service center. Hand tight until 'contact' is made, then 1/2 to 3/4 turn more has always been sufficent to date for me... :idk:

The K75 does get its filter removed/replaced with a 'filter socket' (i.e. the specific BMW tool for the purpose) because of the access issues - you really can't get your hand in to tighten the filter properly. Yes, the filter is INSIDE the oil pan, and NO the specific bike shown is NOT mine.

Gas Man

11-29-2008, 10:51 PM

K&P or FTW
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l311/cjclark69/BDM/Wrenchin/blingy003.jpg

pickle.of.doom

11-29-2008, 10:58 PM

In the future don't put it on so tight and safety wire it. Also the channel locks near the base work well. To safety wire the filter put a large hose clamp on it and then wire the hose clamp to something solid. Or get the K&N filters they have a nut with a hole in it already but I like OEM filters.

Im with him.. I only hand tighten on my filters, then safety wire them. The pressure from the oil actually keeps it nice and snug.

OneSickPsycho

11-30-2008, 01:52 AM

Screwdriver + hammer = best filter wrench ever.

Or you could go with this:
http://xtrooper.net/Mossberg1.jpg

marko138

11-30-2008, 09:44 AM

Screwdriver + hammer = best filter wrench ever.

Or you could go with this:
http://xtrooper.net/Mossberg1.jpg
That'll do the trick.

pickle.of.doom

11-30-2008, 02:32 PM

The mentioned K&N:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/bakedpickle/100_0978.jpg

ceo012384

12-01-2008, 11:02 AM

I use K&N filters. Easy on, easy off.
Yup.
The mentioned K&N:
Here's mine:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff187/ceo012384/30046455.jpg

Amber Lamps

12-01-2008, 06:39 PM

:idk: I still just put oil on the threads and on the oil ring and hand tighten it. Besides,I doubt that I could safety wire an oil filter without taking the fairing off...

pickle.of.doom

12-01-2008, 08:45 PM

Thats only for track purposes. I hand tighten my VTR filters on too, and don't safety wire them. Thats plenty of torque. Or just a nice snug with the type of pliers you have, about equal to hand tight.

Homeslice

12-01-2008, 11:44 PM

What kind of tool is used to twist the safety wire?

ceo012384

12-02-2008, 12:12 AM

What kind of tool is used to twist the safety wire?
Safety wire pliers

http://www.harperracing.com/images/wirep.jpg

BTW... you WILL stab your hand with safety wire at one point or another or a dozen. It doesn't feel nice.

Amber Lamps

12-02-2008, 06:53 PM

Safety wire pliers

http://www.harperracing.com/images/wirep.jpg

BTW... you WILL stab your hand with safety wire at one point or another or a dozen. It doesn't feel nice.

Yea,safety wire isn't very safe! Oh and try wearing mechanic's gloves when you handle it. It'll cut down on the pokes.

ceo012384

12-02-2008, 11:17 PM

Also, I've been using the 32 thousands stuff but some people say the 25 or 20 thousandths stuff is easier to work with. Any truth to that?

I was going to pick up a pound spool of the 25 and get some of the REAL pliers (i.e. the aviation industry ones, I think the company is Milbar)

Amber Lamps

12-03-2008, 12:31 AM

ceo012384

12-03-2008, 12:14 PM

Sorry back in the day all we used was 32 so IDK...it does make sense tho'...
No worries.

Also the 32 is supposedly more likely to snap from overtwist, or when you turn the final end twist back on itself to hide the sharp point.

Figure I might as well give the 25 a shot

Amber Lamps

12-03-2008, 06:03 PM

No worries.

Also the 32 is supposedly more likely to snap from overtwist, or when you turn the final end twist back on itself to hide the sharp point.

Figure I might as well give the 25 a shot

Are you getting the Milbar auto return safety wire pliers?:drool: Man,those bitches used to be about $100 bucks! If you asked a guy to borrow them,he'd make you leave a kidney and your helmet as collateral!

was92v

12-04-2008, 07:13 AM

I've used both. The .025 is a little easier to work with but I trust the .032 more. Probably just in my head. I keep both in the tool box.

ceo012384

12-04-2008, 03:49 PM

Are you getting the Milbar auto return safety wire pliers?:drool: Man,those bitches used to be about $100 bucks! If you asked a guy to borrow them,he'd make you leave a kidney and your helmet as collateral!
Yeah those are the ones I want... you can get them for like 65 if you poke around a bit. Also I think some of them have a clutch so you don't need to worry about untwisting the wire on the auto-return and thus hold the pliers
I've used both. The .025 is a little easier to work with but I trust the .032 more. Probably just in my head. I keep both in the tool box.
I hear ya. The wire IS stainless steel so I doubt that 7 thousandths less means it's not going to stop things from working themselves unscrewed...

Particle Man

12-08-2008, 09:32 PM

Safety wire pliers

http://www.harperracing.com/images/wirep.jpg

BTW... you WILL stab your hand with safety wire at one point or another or a dozen. It doesn't feel nice.

TRUE.

I have a 30 year old pair of safety wire pliers that my father used when he was a jet mechanic - best damn tool.