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DLIT
12-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Got a question. We should be closing on our house in the next few weeks, the bank accepted our offer. I want to rip out the carpeting and install the easy-to-install type hard wood flooring.

Anybody done this before? Any tips or advice? I have enough smarts and common sense in my head to do it, I know it. Didn't know if there's any tips of the trade or anything.

speedylocksmith
12-04-2008, 06:00 PM
It's not my job or anything but i've done it a few times and it's pretty easy, just time consuming and your back will be sore.

DLIT
12-04-2008, 06:07 PM
It's not my job or anything but i've done it a few times and it's pretty easy, just time consuming and your back will be sore.

I plan on hiring a crew of asian ladies to give me back massages and happy endings while I work it. I fear that, after the happy endings, I may fall asleep though. I'm gonna try and power through it.

Mr Lefty
12-04-2008, 06:14 PM
I can get Jumie's number for ya if you need :lol:

Trip
12-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Go to Home Depot early in the morning on a weekday, hire you a crew of Mexicans for $50 and get the happy ending while you watch them do your floor.

DLIT
12-04-2008, 06:24 PM
Go to Home Depot early in the morning on a weekday, hire you a crew of Mexicans for $50 and get the happy ending while you watch them do your floor.

Star Nursery is where you go around here.

Mr Lefty
12-04-2008, 06:26 PM
Star Nursery is where you go around here.

but do they know about floors?

rider76
12-04-2008, 06:32 PM
If you are looking for cheap and easy, go with laminate flooring. We put that shit in our place, pretty simply tongue and groove..

Mr Lefty
12-04-2008, 06:35 PM
If you are looking for cheap and easy, go with laminate flooring. We put that shit in our place, pretty simply tongue and groove..

I think that's what he was talking about... I don't see Dlit putting in REAL wood floors... fuck that'd be expensive and a PITA

rider76
12-04-2008, 06:43 PM
yea, that would take several mexicans, several days....

ducati_atx
12-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Go to Home Depot early in the morning on a weekday, hire you a crew of Mexicans for $50 and get the happy ending while you watch them do your floor.

Good way to end up with a messed up floor or an expensive re-do... Most day labor types are only manual labor. I wouldnt have them doing a wood floor.

rider76
12-04-2008, 06:50 PM
A friend of mine hired some mexicans to cut down at tree in his yard.. bout 40 of them fuckers showed up, had it down and split in 2 hrs.. cost him 100 bucks and a 12 pack.

Trip
12-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Good way to end up with a messed up floor or an expensive re-do... Most day labor types are only manual labor. I wouldnt have them doing a wood floor.

Ya'll must have crappy mexicans, because our fucks get the job done quick and right. Hard working mofos, best brick work in town too.

rider76
12-04-2008, 06:57 PM
Ya'll must have crappy mexicans, because our fucks get the job done quick and right. Hard working mofos, best brick work in town too.

Yep, I haven't seen anyone but a mexican doing brick work around here in a long time...

DLIT
12-04-2008, 07:25 PM
ANYWAY (keep it on topic, and Mexicans aren't the topic)

Yeah, I probably mean laminate. Any special cutting techniques or saws I should use? There's an odd-shaped island that I plan to lay some around. Odd meaning it's not just a square or rectangle, it's curved.

Amber Lamps
12-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Ok I've installed ceramic and Pergo (laminate) and it is super easy! You'll probably end up getting "snap together" flooring and for the most part,you just follow the directions that usually come with it.

Main points;

1. buy approx 10% extra,if you make mistakes you'll have enough to cover for it and the DIY stores will take what you don't use back.

2. keep 1/2 to a full box for repairs. Styles come and go,if something happens you'll want to have replacement pieces handy.

3. make sure you install the foam underlay,if the floor calls for it (trust me). These floors are only "nailed" down on the edges so they can be bouncy/noisey without the underlayment.

4. inspect the current floor after the carpet is removed and make sure that it is reasonably smooth. If it isn't install a sub-floor before the laminate.

5. use a radial arm saw to make the cut pieces and be mindful of the joints and they way they fit together when you cut your boards.

6. leave a small space away from all walls,cabinets,etc. Approx 1/8-1/4 I believe.

7. GET SOME REALLY GOOD KNEEPADS!!! Do not skimp in this area trust me!

8. if you don't finish in one day,cover the new floor in paper to protect it from any nails,screws,etc being dragged across it stuck on shoes.

9. borrow or rent a good nailer and compressor as opposed to buying a cheap set. This will be a one shot deal so don't blow a ton on buying one but a cheap set will drive you fucking nuts!!!

10. trim pieces are your friends,quarter round,kick boards,bull nose,etc will cover the edges so don't drive yourself nuts trying to make it all perfect. BTW this may be a good time to replace the kick boards in that room.

11. the ends of two boards can NEVER line up and I also avoid the brick wall look. Each box comes with boards of several different lengths and I like the more "random" look but to each their own.

12. make sure that you get a "block",a piece of wood to put against the boards to hit with a hammer to knock them into place. NEVER hit the flooring with a hammer,not even gentle taps. There's nothing worse than completing a course and being half thru the next and having a board not fit because you fucked up the joint.

13. briefly inspect every board before you install it to make sure it doesn't have any finish or joint imperfections.

I hope this helps a little...

DLIT
12-04-2008, 08:14 PM
Ok I've installed ceramic and Pergo (laminate) and it is super easy! You'll probably end up getting "snap together" flooring and for the most part,you just follow the directions that usually come with it.

Main points;

1. buy approx 10% extra,if you make mistakes you'll have enough to cover for it and the DIY stores will take what you don't use back.

2. keep 1/2 to a full box for repairs. Styles come and go,if something happens you'll want to have replacement pieces handy.

3. make sure you install the foam underlay,if the floor calls for it (trust me). These floors are only "nailed" down on the edges so they can be bouncy/noisey without the underlayment.

4. inspect the current floor after the carpet is removed and make sure that it is reasonably smooth. If it isn't install a sub-floor before the laminate.

5. use a radial arm saw to make the cut pieces and be mindful of the joints and they way they fit together when you cut your boards.

6. leave a small space away from all walls,cabinets,etc. Approx 1/8-1/4 I believe.

7. GET SOME REALLY GOOD KNEEPADS!!! Do not skimp in this area trust me!

8. if you don't finish in one day,cover the new floor in paper to protect it from any nails,screws,etc being dragged across it stuck on shoes.

9. borrow or rent a good nailer and compressor as opposed to buying a cheap set. This will be a one shot deal so don't blow a ton on buying one but a cheap set will drive you fucking nuts!!!

10. trim pieces are your friends,quarter round,kick boards,bull nose,etc will cover the edges so don't drive yourself nuts trying to make it all perfect. BTW this may be a good time to replace the kick boards in that room.

11. the ends of two boards can NEVER line up and I also avoid the brick wall look. Each box comes with boards of several different lengths and I like the more "random" look but to each their own.

12. make sure that you get a "block",a piece of wood to put against the boards to hit with a hammer to knock them into place. NEVER hit the flooring with a hammer,not even gentle taps. There's nothing worse than completing a course and being half thru the next and having a board not fit because you fucked up the joint.

13. briefly inspect every board before you install it to make sure it doesn't have any finish or joint imperfections.

I hope this helps a little...

A little? This should help a lot! Thanks, bro.

Amber Lamps
12-04-2008, 08:23 PM
A little? This should help a lot! Thanks, bro.

No problem. Oh and you mentioned an "island" if it is non-plumbed,you may want to remove it,install the floor and then re-install it. Sometimes this is way easier than cutting around it.

BTW if you need advice on;

garage doors,masonry,windows,concrete,roofing,siding,othe r flooring,etc let me know!

Captain Morgan
12-04-2008, 08:50 PM
www.diynetwork.com

OTB
12-04-2008, 09:02 PM
Tigger covered it pretty well. The key is the surface you are covering...it must be level. The laminates will crack if there is too much uneveness.

The other issue is water. Formica brand laminate flooring is the only one warrented against water damage, so if you are installing in an area where there may be moisture, spend the bucks and get the good stuff. i installed Pergo in my kitchen a few years back, and the edges of the strips pushed up around the refer. Most folks don't realize they have a condensate pan with evaporator under or behind their refrigerator that keeps the area moist, warm and steamy. I ended up ripping up the Pergo and putting down Formica laminate and have had no further issues....

Particle Man
12-04-2008, 09:02 PM
I've put in laminate flooring - it was pretty easy. Hardest part was getting the stupid saw blade on the table saw to cut the stuff. :lol:

DLIT
12-04-2008, 09:08 PM
Tigger covered it pretty well. The key is the surface you are covering...it must be level. The laminates will crack if there is too much uneveness.

The other issue is water. Formica brand laminate flooring is the only one warrented against water damage, so if you are installing in an area where there may be moisture, spend the bucks and get the good stuff. i installed Pergo in my kitchen a few years back, and the edges of the strips pushed up around the refer. Most folks don't realize they have a condensate pan with evaporator under or behind their refrigerator that keeps the area moist, warm and steamy. I ended up ripping up the Pergo and putting down Formica laminate and have had no further issues....

I just searched for Formica laminate. What does the "grade" mean?

Amber Lamps
12-04-2008, 09:09 PM
I've put in laminate flooring - it was pretty easy. Hardest part was getting the stupid saw blade on the table saw to cut the stuff. :lol:

radial arm saw ftw...it comes in from the top.

DLIT
12-04-2008, 09:11 PM
Nevermind, I found out what grade was.

Particle Man
12-04-2008, 09:15 PM
radial arm saw ftw...it comes in from the top.

I worked with what I had ;)

Amber Lamps
12-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Tigger covered it pretty well. The key is the surface you are covering...it must be level. The laminates will crack if there is too much uneveness.

The other issue is water. Formica brand laminate flooring is the only one warrented against water damage, so if you are installing in an area where there may be moisture, spend the bucks and get the good stuff. i installed Pergo in my kitchen a few years back, and the edges of the strips pushed up around the refer. Most folks don't realize they have a condensate pan with evaporator under or behind their refrigerator that keeps the area moist, warm and steamy. I ended up ripping up the Pergo and putting down Formica laminate and have had no further issues....

Yea he's right there I mentioned sub-flooring but you said something about "carpet" so I ASSumed,you weren't talking about a kitchen. Of course if it's a bathroom you're going to have to glue every board and be sure to use laminate that is water proof and warrantied as such! Thanks OTB!

I've never used a "formica" flooring but my question for OTB is if you glued the boards? You have to glue the boards if the floor is going to be installed in a "wet" area like a kitchen or bath. I've dropped quite a few floors and haven't had any problems...except we once did a BAMBOO floor,never again!!!:panic:

Amber Lamps
12-04-2008, 09:20 PM
I worked with what I had ;)


been there bro! You're lucky a board didn't kick out and smack you in the chops!

ducati_atx
12-04-2008, 09:25 PM
Ya'll must have crappy mexicans, because our fucks get the job done quick and right. Hard working mofos, best brick work in town too.


I agree in general about hispanics; however, the ones who do that brickwork/floorwork/etc are probably already part of a crew and not hanging out on the "pick up a mexican" corner waiting for work. The ones who are good at digging ditches, manual labor, yardwork are usually the type you will find there.

DLIT
12-04-2008, 09:28 PM
The bottom floor consists of the dining room, kitchen and living room in one open floor plan. Here's some pics:

Kitchen:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u58/DLITALIEN/IMG_1255.jpg

Stairs area:
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u58/DLITALIEN/IMG_1261.jpg

Living room area (will be painted):
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u58/DLITALIEN/IMG_1260.jpg

Dining area (viewed from loft):
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u58/DLITALIEN/IMG_1280.jpg

buzzcutt2
12-04-2008, 09:29 PM
Nice place...does everyone have a nice new house except for my poor ass?

DLIT
12-04-2008, 09:33 PM
Nice place...does everyone have a nice new house except for my poor ass?

Now's the time to buy. I picked this one up for $106k and change "OTD". The bank's paying up to $7k (subtracted from total of $116.5k) in my closing costs and all their costs, too. There's two bedrooms and a decent size loft on the second floor, and a 2-car garage. 1926 sq/ft.

buzzcutt2
12-04-2008, 09:36 PM
Now's the time to buy. I picked this one up for $106k and change "OTD". The bank's paying up to $7k (subtracted from total of $116.5k) in my closing costs and all their costs, too. There's two bedrooms and a decent size loft on the second floor, and a 2-car garage. 1926 sq/ft.

I bought just before the real crazy time...but my divorced broke ass at the time couldn't afford much in S. FL. (That is any place that didn't have a homeowners association anyway).

Sounds like you got a good deal. :dthumb:

Mr Lefty
12-04-2008, 09:50 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_15087_install-wood-laminate.html

http://ezinearticles.com/?Installing-Laminate-Flooring---Dos-and-Donts!&id=307282

some good tips there...

one more
http://interiordecorating.suite101.com/article.cfm/installing_hardwood_laminate_floor

askmrjesus
12-04-2008, 10:36 PM
I've dropped quite a few floors and haven't had any problems...except we once did a BAMBOO floor,never again!!!:panic:

What? Bamboo rocks! The shit is practically indestructible, it's renewable, you can refinish it down the road if need be, (try that with a laminate floor) and it's not too expensive, (about $2.25 a square foot).

If Barbie was going to install a new floor in her "Malibu Fun House", it would be a laminate floor.

In short, laminate floors are for pussies.

There. I said it.

JC

Mr Lefty
12-04-2008, 10:45 PM
yeah I've heard great things about the Bamboo floors :idk: I really like the look of them too

JoJoYZF
12-04-2008, 10:51 PM
Ok I've installed ceramic and Pergo (laminate) and it is super easy! You'll probably end up getting "snap together" flooring and for the most part,you just follow the directions that usually come with it.

Main points;

1. buy approx 10% extra,if you make mistakes you'll have enough to cover for it and the DIY stores will take what you don't use back.

2. keep 1/2 to a full box for repairs. Styles come and go,if something happens you'll want to have replacement pieces handy.

3. make sure you install the foam underlay,if the floor calls for it (trust me). These floors are only "nailed" down on the edges so they can be bouncy/noisey without the underlayment.

4. inspect the current floor after the carpet is removed and make sure that it is reasonably smooth. If it isn't install a sub-floor before the laminate.

5. use a radial arm saw to make the cut pieces and be mindful of the joints and they way they fit together when you cut your boards.

6. leave a small space away from all walls,cabinets,etc. Approx 1/8-1/4 I believe.

7. GET SOME REALLY GOOD KNEEPADS!!! Do not skimp in this area trust me!

8. if you don't finish in one day,cover the new floor in paper to protect it from any nails,screws,etc being dragged across it stuck on shoes.

9. borrow or rent a good nailer and compressor as opposed to buying a cheap set. This will be a one shot deal so don't blow a ton on buying one but a cheap set will drive you fucking nuts!!!

10. trim pieces are your friends,quarter round,kick boards,bull nose,etc will cover the edges so don't drive yourself nuts trying to make it all perfect. BTW this may be a good time to replace the kick boards in that room.

11. the ends of two boards can NEVER line up and I also avoid the brick wall look. Each box comes with boards of several different lengths and I like the more "random" look but to each their own.

12. make sure that you get a "block",a piece of wood to put against the boards to hit with a hammer to knock them into place. NEVER hit the flooring with a hammer,not even gentle taps. There's nothing worse than completing a course and being half thru the next and having a board not fit because you fucked up the joint.

13. briefly inspect every board before you install it to make sure it doesn't have any finish or joint imperfections.

I hope this helps a little...

Most of what tigger mentioned is right on. I actually work in our flooring department at Home Depot, so I deal with all the usual questions all the time. I just added to most of what he said but if you need anything else feel free to pm me.

3. Good underlayment is a great idea. It helps with sound and a bit of insulation. Also, laminate is not nailed down at all.

5. This is your best bet, but you can also use a circular saw if need be. Just use a fine tooth miter blade and wrap the line youre going to cut with painters tape or masking tape. This will keep the finish from getting messed up.

6. Yes its a 1/4" gap, it allows for the expansion and contraction of the floor, the gap will get covered by the quarter round molding.

9. See if you can rent or borrow a nailer, all that you need it for is the trim pieces. Laminates are considered floating floors beacuse they do not attach directly to the subfloor in any way.

11. Laminate pieces come in boards (typically about 3 feet long) and are all the same length. Only hardwood and engineered wood comes in uneven lengths. The pattern is printed onto the boards and the seams typically blend very well so they will not be noticed. I do typically recommend staggering them a little bit from one row to the next though.

12. A tapping block is what hes referring to. Its just a plastic block, but a piece of wood works just as well.

13. Very good idea.

Captain Morgan
12-04-2008, 11:10 PM
Nice place...does everyone have a nice new house except for my poor ass?

No, not everyone.

6. Yes its a 1/4" gap, it allows for the expansion and contraction of the floor, the gap will get covered by the quarter round molding.

I HATE the look of quarter round. If it can't be covered by regular trim, count me out. Quarter round looks like Bubba didn't measure correctly and had to install quarter round to cover up his mistakes. I'm also not a fan of laminate flooring, but that's just my personal opinion.

JoJoYZF
12-04-2008, 11:21 PM
No, not everyone.



I HATE the look of quarter round. If it can't be covered by regular trim, count me out. Quarter round looks like Bubba didn't measure correctly and had to install quarter round to cover up his mistakes. I'm also not a fan of laminate flooring, but that's just my personal opinion.

Yeah, Im not a huge fan of it either but there isnt much else you can do. You can leave a smaller gap so that regular molding will cover it, but thats about it, and then it doesnt have as much room if it expands. That depends a lot on the climate of your home.

I definitely like the look of hardwood floors better, but they scratch A LOT easier. We went with laminate and it turned out great, plus my dog would have scratched the shit out of the finish on a true hardwood floor.

marko138
12-07-2008, 11:06 AM
DLIT...congrats on buying a place. Thats a big step. And a wise move. Also...nice fucking place man. Really nice.

thunderex
12-07-2008, 12:32 PM
What? Bamboo rocks! The shit is practically indestructible, it's renewable, you can refinish it down the road if need be, (try that with a laminate floor) and it's not too expensive, (about $2.25 a square foot).

If Barbie was going to install a new floor in her "Malibu Fun House", it would be a laminate floor.

In short, laminate floors are for pussies.

There. I said it.

JC

Lots of folks have done bamboo hardwoods around here. Evidently the wood is quite soft and marks easily. I still like the look of it but it doesn't get great reviews from a lot of people who have them.

Amber Lamps
12-07-2008, 12:55 PM
Lots of folks have done bamboo hardwoods around here. Evidently the wood is quite soft and marks easily. I still like the look of it but it doesn't get great reviews from a lot of people who have them.

There were A LOT of install problems when I installed them. Granted,they were relatively new at the time.

DLIT
12-07-2008, 01:49 PM
DLIT...congrats on buying a place. Thats a big step. And a wise move. Also...nice fucking place man. Really nice.

:beers:

Gas Man
12-08-2008, 03:57 PM
Ok I've installed ceramic and Pergo (laminate) and it is super easy! You'll probably end up getting "snap together" flooring and for the most part,you just follow the directions that usually come with it.

Main points;

1. buy approx 10% extra,if you make mistakes you'll have enough to cover for it and the DIY stores will take what you don't use back.

2. keep 1/2 to a full box for repairs. Styles come and go,if something happens you'll want to have replacement pieces handy.

3. make sure you install the foam underlay,if the floor calls for it (trust me). These floors are only "nailed" down on the edges so they can be bouncy/noisey without the underlayment.

4. inspect the current floor after the carpet is removed and make sure that it is reasonably smooth. If it isn't install a sub-floor before the laminate.

5. use a radial arm saw to make the cut pieces and be mindful of the joints and they way they fit together when you cut your boards.

6. leave a small space away from all walls,cabinets,etc. Approx 1/8-1/4 I believe.

7. GET SOME REALLY GOOD KNEEPADS!!! Do not skimp in this area trust me!

8. if you don't finish in one day,cover the new floor in paper to protect it from any nails,screws,etc being dragged across it stuck on shoes.

9. borrow or rent a good nailer and compressor as opposed to buying a cheap set. This will be a one shot deal so don't blow a ton on buying one but a cheap set will drive you fucking nuts!!!

10. trim pieces are your friends,quarter round,kick boards,bull nose,etc will cover the edges so don't drive yourself nuts trying to make it all perfect. BTW this may be a good time to replace the kick boards in that room.

11. the ends of two boards can NEVER line up and I also avoid the brick wall look. Each box comes with boards of several different lengths and I like the more "random" look but to each their own.

12. make sure that you get a "block",a piece of wood to put against the boards to hit with a hammer to knock them into place. NEVER hit the flooring with a hammer,not even gentle taps. There's nothing worse than completing a course and being half thru the next and having a board not fit because you fucked up the joint.

13. briefly inspect every board before you install it to make sure it doesn't have any finish or joint imperfections.

I hope this helps a little...

Tigger got most of it

Most of what tigger mentioned is right on. I actually work in our flooring department at Home Depot, so I deal with all the usual questions all the time. I just added to most of what he said but if you need anything else feel free to pm me.

3. Good underlayment is a great idea. It helps with sound and a bit of insulation. Also, laminate is not nailed down at all.

5. This is your best bet, but you can also use a circular saw if need be. Just use a fine tooth miter blade and wrap the line youre going to cut with painters tape or masking tape. This will keep the finish from getting messed up.

6. Yes its a 1/4" gap, it allows for the expansion and contraction of the floor, the gap will get covered by the quarter round molding.

9. See if you can rent or borrow a nailer, all that you need it for is the trim pieces. Laminates are considered floating floors beacuse they do not attach directly to the subfloor in any way.

11. Laminate pieces come in boards (typically about 3 feet long) and are all the same length. Only hardwood and engineered wood comes in uneven lengths. The pattern is printed onto the boards and the seams typically blend very well so they will not be noticed. I do typically recommend staggering them a little bit from one row to the next though.

12. A tapping block is what hes referring to. Its just a plastic block, but a piece of wood works just as well.

13. Very good idea.

Truth.

Get a rubber mallet.

Consider the engineered hard wood as well. Looks alot nicer than pergo style. Same snap together floating installation but individual pieces. I did one a month or so ago... real nice. When we did, we laid down mdf board over all the existing floor... make it all nice n even as said above.

askmrjesus
12-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Lots of folks have done bamboo hardwoods around here. Evidently the wood is quite soft and marks easily. I still like the look of it but it doesn't get great reviews from a lot of people who have them.

I don't know what those people are doing on their floors, but Bamboo is anything but soft;

"Bamboo flooring's hardness rating, usually gauged by ASTM 1037 (also known as Janko Hardness Rating) is higher than most wood floorings. According to ASTM 1037 tests, bamboo shows an average hardness of 1642, making it 21 percent harder than white oak and 13 percent harder than hard maple."

JC

JoJoYZF
12-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Tigger got most of it



Truth.

Get a rubber mallet.

Consider the engineered hard wood as well. Looks alot nicer than pergo style. Same snap together floating installation but individual pieces. I did one a month or so ago... real nice. When we did, we laid down mdf board over all the existing floor... make it all nice n even as said above.

Engineered flooring is sweet. Not quite as durable to scratches as laminate but install is easy and like you said, the look is a hell of a lot nicer than most laminates.

RACER X
12-08-2008, 04:28 PM
i've laid down a few laminate floors, so here's my tips

buy the pergo install kit, it has all the stuf you'll need to make life easier

cut the boards w/ the pretty side down. it splinters less.

and good underlying stuff is exp. we plan to do some rooms in our new house sometime in the future.

thunderex
12-08-2008, 07:34 PM
I don't know what those people are doing on their floors, but Bamboo is anything but soft;

"Bamboo flooring's hardness rating, usually gauged by ASTM 1037 (also known as Janko Hardness Rating) is higher than most wood floorings. According to ASTM 1037 tests, bamboo shows an average hardness of 1642, making it 21 percent harder than white oak and 13 percent harder than hard maple."

JC

Beats me. Maybe it just shows worse on Bamboo for some reason. Although I do think carbonized Bamboo is softer due to the process of making it darker.

Amber Lamps
12-08-2008, 07:39 PM
I don't know what those people are doing on their floors, but Bamboo is anything but soft;

"Bamboo flooring's hardness rating, usually gauged by ASTM 1037 (also known as Janko Hardness Rating) is higher than most wood floorings. According to ASTM 1037 tests, bamboo shows an average hardness of 1642, making it 21 percent harder than white oak and 13 percent harder than hard maple."

JC


I personally had problems with the glue they sent but I agree that the floor looked awesome!

Gas Man
12-08-2008, 11:47 PM
Engineered flooring is sweet. Not quite as durable to scratches as laminate but install is easy and like you said, the look is a hell of a lot nicer than most laminates.
That is true. I "heard" of my step bro in law's neighbor... if you can follow that shit.. had a parts. A bunch of sluts were over wearing high heals and major drinking. The next morning he said there was a trench of heal divits in the engineered hardwood flooring around the island in the kitchen. CRAZY SHIT!

Amber Lamps
12-08-2008, 11:55 PM
oh snap!

azoomm
12-09-2008, 12:47 AM
i've laid down a few laminate floors, so here's my tips

buy the pergo install kit, it has all the stuf you'll need to make life easier

cut the boards w/ the pretty side down. it splinters less.

and good underlying stuff is exp. we plan to do some rooms in our new house sometime in the future.

http://www.pergo.com/shop/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=A120

EXACTLY.

I don't care whether you go with real or laminate - this is the kit to get. The stupid little metal arm is priceless.

Most of my home is tile. We ripped out the carpet after moving in - I tiled 1300 sq feet. Then, the bedrooms are all pergo. The master is stained concrete. If I could have had my way - the entire house would have been just stained concrete. MUCH easier.

LeeNetworX
12-09-2008, 11:32 AM
The only advice I can give that I didn't see posted already is don't skimp on the underlay material.

DLIT
12-09-2008, 01:51 PM
http://www.pergo.com/shop/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=A120

EXACTLY.

I don't care whether you go with real or laminate - this is the kit to get. The stupid little metal arm is priceless.

Most of my home is tile. We ripped out the carpet after moving in - I tiled 1300 sq feet. Then, the bedrooms are all pergo. The master is stained concrete. If I could have had my way - the entire house would have been just stained concrete. MUCH easier.

Thanks for the link.

JoJoYZF
12-09-2008, 02:44 PM
Thanks for the link.

That kit is a nice thing to have. It definitely wouldnt hurt to pick one up when you get the flooring. Most places that carry pergo should have it I would assume, I know HD does.

azoomm
12-09-2008, 03:33 PM
That kit is a nice thing to have. It definitely wouldnt hurt to pick one up when you get the flooring. Most places that carry pergo should have it I would assume, I know HD does.

Yup - I got mine at HD even though I special ordered my Pergo through Lowes. There are certain styles that are only available through particular vendors. So, if you are going to go with Pergo - check out all the options on their website.

My husband and I made our choice - then went to Lowes on a big flooring sale. AND, I think we put it on a 0% interest project card (they have a $1000 minimum).

the chi
12-09-2008, 04:38 PM
http://www.pergo.com/shop/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=A120

EXACTLY.

I don't care whether you go with real or laminate - this is the kit to get. The stupid little metal arm is priceless.

Most of my home is tile. We ripped out the carpet after moving in - I tiled 1300 sq feet. Then, the bedrooms are all pergo. The master is stained concrete. If I could have had my way - the entire house would have been just stained concrete. MUCH easier.

Stained concrete FTMFW!! I love it when done correctly! Got any pics?

ducati_atx
12-09-2008, 04:54 PM
Stained concrete FTMFW!! I love it when done correctly! Got any pics?

I like stained concrete too; however, thats a job best left to the professionals.

I looked at 1/2 a dozen homes during the process to buy my current home which attempted to do stained concrete only to follow that up with solid wood installed over the top of it.

Stained concrete is _really_ easy to fuck up.

azoomm
12-09-2008, 05:11 PM
I like stained concrete too; however, thats a job best left to the professionals.

I looked at 1/2 a dozen homes during the process to buy my current home which attempted to do stained concrete only to follow that up with solid wood installed over the top of it.

Stained concrete is _really_ easy to fuck up.

I have pictures - just not on my laptop.

We did it black - and I would have someone else do it, if I do it again. The etching process sucks HARD. And, the reason we did it was to get rid of the last remaining carpeted room - I want to put shipwreck wood in that room. The wood is all black - and wanted to see if the room is large enough to have a black floor. Ripping it apart and staining the floor was the cheapest way to see if I liked it.

Gas Man
12-09-2008, 06:46 PM
Yes the little metal arm is the SHIT for doing that last piece next to the wall!!!

askmrjesus
12-09-2008, 07:06 PM
Yes the little metal arm is the SHIT for doing that last piece next to the wall!!!

:lol:

I've never seen so many people have an orgasm over a fucking miniature crowbar. :lol:

JC

Gas Man
12-09-2008, 07:12 PM
Funny you say that... I have never used it myself... I had to use just what you said...or just a rubber mallet and my fingers. But I have seen it used a few times and was like... "Hey that looks way easier!"

Captain Morgan
12-09-2008, 07:24 PM
I have pictures - just not on my laptop.

We did it black - and I would have someone else do it, if I do it again. The etching process sucks HARD. And, the reason we did it was to get rid of the last remaining carpeted room - I want to put shipwreck wood in that room. The wood is all black - and wanted to see if the room is large enough to have a black floor. Ripping it apart and staining the floor was the cheapest way to see if I liked it.

You could have just spray painted the carpet black. :lol:

azoomm
12-09-2008, 07:55 PM
You could have just spray painted the carpet black. :lol:

ew.

I started typing something that involved some sort of reason... and I'll just resort to, "ew"

Captain Morgan
12-09-2008, 08:57 PM
ew.

I started typing something that involved some sort of reason... and I'll just resort to, "ew"

notice the laughing smiley? It was a joke. ;)

azoomm
12-09-2008, 09:08 PM
notice the laughing smiley? It was a joke. ;)

Yes, I did...

Still, I now have the mental image of crunchy black carpet.

Ew. :lol: :panic:

Captain Morgan
12-09-2008, 09:18 PM
Yes, I did...

Still, I now have the mental image of crunchy black carpet.

Ew. :lol: :panic:

OMG, now I have the mental image of munching crunchy black carpet. :rofl:

Mr Lefty
12-09-2008, 09:20 PM
OMG, now I have the mental image of munching crunchy black carpet. :rofl:

captain... you need a motorcycle bad.

azoomm
12-09-2008, 09:23 PM
OMG, now I have the mental image of munching crunchy black carpet. :rofl:

EW!!! :panic:

:rofl:

Mr Lefty
12-09-2008, 09:27 PM
:panic:


wrong smilie... your looking for:vs: