Motherf**kin' Wolverine.

[OneSickPsycho]

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=48043679

:big:

[TommyHotWheel]

Deadpool needs the mask or at least run him through a meat grinder.

[Archren]

Fuck yeah. :rockwoot:

[OneSickPsycho]

Deadpool needs the mask or at least run him through a meat grinder.

Agreed...

The story looks killer, but I fear it being over done... So many new characters to develop... or they could just be cameo type situations for most... I am most excited to see Gambit... and Liev Schreiber as Victor Creed should be money.

[Riceaholic]

did I see ButterBean in the ring?

[DLIT]

Saw the preview at The Day the Earth Stood Still. Can't wait. "No Code of Conduct". Wolverine's going off.

[Papa_Complex]

It looks damned good. Been a couple of decades since I read the comics though, back when he had no idea where he came from, so I don't know if this parallels the story.

DLIT, how was "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? I've been considering seeing it, but the 1950s version was a true classic; some say the first anti-nuke movie. The story line is apparently quite different from the original.

[OneSickPsycho]

did I see ButterBean in the ring?

The Blob. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blob_(comics))

[fnfalman]

Sabertooth, baby!!!

[AquaPython]

fuckin nice! good post.
when i read the comics, they never revealed his history, and some estimated he could be several hundred years old. a few comics placed him in different wars throughout history, or at least this century (WW1 i believe) . has that since changed?

[smileyman]

I can't wait to see it, but I am concerned it won't jive with the comic book version...I own Wolverine # 1, 2, 3, 4! Doubt they are worth money but they are cool!

[Tmall]

The trailer seems about right. He was born in the what looked like the early-mid 1800s in the comics. Didn't have adamantium until the weapon-x program. Looks like it follows the time line pretty well.

[DLIT]

It looks damned good. Been a couple of decades since I read the comics though, back when he had no idea where he came from, so I don't know if this parallels the story.

DLIT, how was "The Day the Earth Stood Still"? I've been considering seeing it, but the 1950s version was a true classic; some say the first anti-nuke movie. The story line is apparently quite different from the original.

I wasn't aware of the 1950's version. I actually thought it was a decent movie.

[Corey]

It looks like they've used the Origin story from 2002 to explain Wolverine's beginnings. The trailer looks cool as hell, and as long as it doesn't suck the amounts of ass that X3 did, it'll work for me.

I wasn't aware of the 1950's version. I actually thought it was a decent movie.

The original Day The Earth Stood Still is a classic.

[DLIT]

It looks like they've used the Origin story from 2002 to explain Wolverine's beginnings. The trailer looks cool as hell, and as long as it doesn't suck the amounts of ass that X3 did, it'll work for me.



The original Day The Earth Stood Still is a classic.

Check out the new one and see how you like it then.

[Papa_Complex]

I wasn't aware of the 1950's version. I actually thought it was a decent movie.

They're retreading everything these days. Ever heard any of the music from "The Rocky Horror Picture Show"?

"Michael Rennie was ill
The Day the Earth Stood Still
But he told us where we stand..."

Have you seen Bruce Campbell's "Army of Darkness"? When he's about to pick up the book: "Klaatu barada nikto!"

Both refer to the original 1951 version of the movie. You could probably pick it up cheap at Best Buy, or another electronics store. That's where I got my copy for about $14.00. It's hokey, in that 1950s way, but it's also a pretty smart movie.

[DLIT]

I can't get into the older movies and the way/style they were made. Not to say they aren't good, I just can't get through 'em. I'm kind of spoiled by the movies getting put out these days.

[Papa_Complex]

It's a different type of film being made now for a different audience. Most people seem to want the big blockbusters now, with lots of action and special effects. One thing that frequently gets lost is the story. Far too many films that I see now are essentially a set-up, followed by 1.5 hours of gunshots and stuff blowing up, then the death of the big badguy.

Every now and then I like to go back to the old stuff, to see how a story can be spun. Stuff like Citizen Cane, The Ten Commandments, Psycho and the other great Hitchcock films, and The Day the Earth Stood Still stand head and shoulders above the current stuff, in the art of storytelling. The old Bogart films are great stuff.

There are some exceptions though. GATTACA was a good story, but put most people to sleep. There's a movie that I only discovered recently though it was out quite a while back (2002); Equilibrium. It's a shoot-em-up that actually has a bit of a story hooking things together. Then there's the incredible stuff that Frank Miller is putting out; Sin City, 300, and the upcoming The Spirit. They've got both style AND substance.

[Homeslice]

I didn't think Wolverine had claws until the operation.

[Papa_Complex]

I didn't think Wolverine had claws until the operation.

He didn't. He got them as part of the "Weapon X" programme, along with the adamantium skeleton.

[AquaPython]

wolverine having claws, depends on what storyline. he has bone claws in the main marvel story i believe.

papa, something cool about the movie gattaca , besides the story, is the title. do you know what it is (without googling)?

[Papa_Complex]

wolverine having claws, depends on what storyline. he has bone claws in the main marvel story i believe.

papa, something cool about the movie gattaca , besides the story, is the title. do you know what it is (without googling)?

Yup, the letter representations of the amino acids in DNA.

(That's why i wrote it in all caps, instead of the way that it's usually written as the title)

[OneSickPsycho]

It's a different type of film being made now for a different audience. Most people seem to want the big blockbusters now, with lots of action and special effects. One thing that frequently gets lost is the story. Far too many films that I see now are essentially a set-up, followed by 1.5 hours of gunshots and stuff blowing up, then the death of the big badguy.

Every now and then I like to go back to the old stuff, to see how a story can be spun. Stuff like Citizen Cane, The Ten Commandments, Psycho and the other great Hitchcock films, and The Day the Earth Stood Still stand head and shoulders above the current stuff, in the art of storytelling. The old Bogart films are great stuff.

There are some exceptions though. GATTACA was a good story, but put most people to sleep. There's a movie that I only discovered recently though it was out quite a while back (2002); Equilibrium. It's a shoot-em-up that actually has a bit of a story hooking things together. Then there's the incredible stuff that Frank Miller is putting out; Sin City, 300, and the upcoming The Spirit. They've got both style AND substance.

Gattaca was awesome... Equilibrium was fanfuckingtastic too... I dunno about The Spirit... it looks like it could be pretty gay.

[Corey]

Gattaca was awesome... Equilibrium was fanfuckingtastic too... I dunno about The Spirit... it looks like it could be pretty gay.

I was looking forward to The Spirit, but it's getting slammed in reviews. I could see it going either way. It's a film I could see getting lost in its own visual stylings at the expense of any kinda coherent plot. Eva Mendez and Scarlett Johansson are pretty as hell, but neither of them can act worth a damn. And take your Ghost World shit and shove it up your ass, pre-emptively, that was a Thora Birch movie all the way. Samuel L. Jackson hasn't played anything but yelling Samuel L. Jackson in his past couple films. So already it's tap dancing on three strikes against it.

[Dnyce]

gattaca was the shit, not alot of ppl even know about tho. wolverine looks badass, cant wait for that shit to come out.... kinda iffy on the spirit tho.

the day the earth stood still was ok, but the trailers misguide u horribly. i went in expecting one thing and got another. it was a "message movie"

and of course i have to see fast and furious

[Tmall]

He's always had them. They were made out of bone. If you look at the comics where they removed his adamantium, they were still there. And if you read the origins comic, he killed a bad guy in his house as a child with his little tiny bone claws.

[Lamnidae]

[QUOTE=Papa_Complex;129316] Equilibrium. QUOTE]

Great movie.


Awesome trailer, you fucking rock OSP :dthumb:


Can't wait to see how they play out Gambit. He was always my fav in the animated series. Sorry, never read the comic books.

[Papa_Complex]

I was looking forward to The Spirit, but it's getting slammed in reviews. I could see it going either way. It's a film I could see getting lost in its own visual stylings at the expense of any kinda coherent plot. Eva Mendez and Scarlett Johansson are pretty as hell, but neither of them can act worth a damn. And take your Ghost World shit and shove it up your ass, pre-emptively, that was a Thora Birch movie all the way. Samuel L. Jackson hasn't played anything but yelling Samuel L. Jackson in his past couple films. So already it's tap dancing on three strikes against it.

I'll have to read the reviews of The Spirit here, in Toronto. We've got two reviewers who if they agree that a movie sucks, I always love it. I'm a big fan of the old radio serials. Used to stay up past midnight as a kid to listen to them being rerun on a local radio station. Stuff like The Shadow, The Falcon, and Batman. The Spirit was a comic book spin on this sort of thing, but with a twist, and Miller is great at that stuff.

[Papa_Complex]

He's always had them. They were made out of bone. If you look at the comics where they removed his adamantium, they were still there. And if you read the origins comic, he killed a bad guy in his house as a child with his little tiny bone claws.

That must have been after my time. When I was reading the comics they had no idea where he'd come from and though that he could have been hundreds of years old, even before the Weapon X programme.

[Amorok]

Wplverine always had the claws, but he didn't always know he had them. During Weapon X they grafted adamantium onto his bone claws just like all of his other bones.

Deadpool needs to look really messed up or be under the red and black mask, but I guess they want to show of Ryan Reynolds. Remember though, it wasn't until after the Weapon X program that the unfortunate combination of the grafted in healing factor and his terminal cancer made him look like hamburger, before then he looked a lot like Ryan Reynolds, except on chemo.

Hugh Jackman sucks. I hate him as Wolverine and pretty much everything else. They would have done better casting Glenn Danzig.

[JK]

The original Day The Earth Stood Still is a classic.

i watched it again last month just for kicks, and its much more pointed a story these days.

there is a part that a newsman walks through a crowd at the ship asking everyone "what do you fear? what frightens you?" And moves on by quickly when klaatu expresses optimism.

[AquaPython]

nah hugh jackman is a great actor and pulls off an amazing wolverine. if it was not for his performance, the xmen movies would have bombed.

wolverine on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_(comics)

background:
Wolverine's first intended origin

Co-creator Len Wein originally intended for Logan to be a mutated wolverine cub, evolved to humanoid form by the High Evolutionary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Evolutionary).[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-12) In X-Men #98, a biological analysis of Wolverine suggests that he was in some way different from the other X-Men, and in X-Men #103, Wolverine says he doesn't believe in leprechauns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leprechaun), to which the leprechaun replies, "Maybe leprechauns don't believe in talkin' wolverines, either."[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-13) In a reprint of Hulk #180-181, titled Incredible Hulk and Wolverine, an interview with Cockrum supports the claim that Wolverine was intended to be a mutated wolverine. Cockrum said he considered having the High Evolutionary play a vital role in making Wolverine a human. He wanted Wolverine to be the age of a young adult, with superhuman strength and agility similar to Spider-Man. This changed when Cockrum saw John Romita Sr. draw a mask-less Wolverine as a hairy 40-year-old. Creator Len Wein originally intended the claws to be retractable and part of Wolverine's gloves, and both gloves and claws would be made of adamantium. This idea was later nixed by Claremont because he believed anyone could then become Wolverine by wearing the gloves. The claws are first revealed to be part of Wolverine's anatomy in X-Men #98.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wolverine_%28comics%29&action=edit&section=3)] Wolverine's second intended origin

Byrne said (as stated in interviews and on his website) that he drew a possible face for Wolverine - but then learned that John Romita Sr. had already drawn one for him (Wolverine's face, drawn by Cockrum, can be seen in Uncanny X-Men #98, long before Byrne started). Later, Byrne used the drawing for Sabretooth's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabretooth_%28comics%29) face (an enemy of Iron Fist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Fist_%28comics%29), who Claremont was also currently writing). Byrne then came up with the idea of Sabretooth being Wolverine's father (they both had similar healing abilities and raging tempers). Together, Byrne and Claremont came up with Wolverine being around 60 and having served in World War II after escaping from Sabretooth (who was around 120 years old and had been abusing him for decades - explaining his rages). The plan had been for Wolverine to have been almost crushed in an accident; at which point he would discover (when attempting to stand for the first time after recovering) that his healing factor does not work on bones - his legs immediately break. He then spends over a decade in a hospital bed, almost going mad (another reason for his berserker rages) when the Canadian Government approaches him with the idea of replacing his skeleton one bone at a time with solid adamantium - the claws being an extra surprise. This origin too was never used.

[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wolverine_%28comics%29&action=edit&section=4)] Fictional character biography

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James Howlett in Origin #2.


Main article: Fictional history of Wolverine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_history_of_Wolverine)
Born in 19th century Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada) to rich plantation owners, James Howlett grows into manhood on a mining colony in Northern Alberta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alberta), adopting the name "Logan", which is the last name of the plantation groundskeeper, Thomas Logan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Logan) and his son Dog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Logan). [15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-14) Logan leaves the colony and lives for a time in the wilderness among wolves, until returning to civilization, residing with the Blackfoot Indians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfoot_Indians). Following the death of his Blackfoot paramour, Silver Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Fox), he is ushered into a Canadian military unit. Logan then spends some time in Madripoor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madripoor), developing his "Patch" persona; before settling in Japan, where he marries and has a son (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daken).
During World War II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II), Logan teams with Captain America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America) versus HYDRA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HYDRA), and continues a career as a soldier-of-fortune/adventurer. Logan works for the First Canadian Parachute Battalion[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-15) and the CIA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency) before being recruited for Team X.
As a member of Team X, Logan is given false memory implants. He continues on the team, until he is able to break free of the mental control and joins the Canadian Defense Ministry. Logan is subsequently kidnapped by Weapon X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_X), where he remains captive and experimented on, until his rescue by the Winter Soldier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucky), after which he returns to the Canadian wilderness. It is during his imprisonment by Weapon X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_X) that he has unbreakble adamantium forcibly fused into his bones.
Logan is eventually discovered by James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_%28Marvel_Comics%29) and Heather Hudson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vindicator_%28comics%29), who help him recover his humanity. Following his recovery, Logan, this time under the supervision of Department H (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_H), once again works for Canadian Intelligence. Logan becomes Wolverine, one of Canada's first superheroes. In his first mission, he is dispatched to stop the destruction caused by a brawl between the Hulk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulk_%28comics%29) and the Wendigo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo_%28comics%29).
Professor X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_X) recruits Wolverine to a new team of X-Men.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-16) Disillusioned with his Canadian intelligence work and intrigued by Xavier's offer, Logan resigns from Department H. Logan continues to adventure as a superhero, eventually recovering his memories.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-17)
In X-Men #25 (1993), at the culmination of the "Fatal Attractions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_Attractions)" crossover (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_crossover), the supervillain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervillain) Magneto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto_%28comics%29) forcibly removes the adamantium from Wolverine's skeleton. This massive trauma causes his healing factor to burn out and also leads to the discovery that his claws are actually bone. Wolverine leaves the X-Men for a time, embarking on a series of adventures during which his healing factor returns, greatly increased in speed and efficiency. After his return to the X-Men, Cable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_%28comics%29)'s son Genesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28comics%29) kidnaps Wolverine and attempts to re-bond adamantium to his skeleton.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_%28comics%29#cite_note-18) This is unsuccessful and causes Wolverine's mutation to accelerate out of control. He is temporarily changed into a semi-sentient beast-like form in which he gains greater physical power than ever before, at the price of part of his humanity; he kills Genesis shortly after this occurs. Finally, the villain Apocalypse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29) captures Wolverine, brainwashes him, and has the adamantium re-bonded to his skeleton successfully. Wolverine overcomes Apocalypse's programming and returns to the X-Men.

[Amorok]

Fuck Hugh Jackman. And as for the personality thing, he does not have it in the bag, or else he would have punched Cyclops in the nuts with claws extended in the third movie. He does Wolverine with the same angsty, emo faggotry that made the 2004 Punisher suck. You can make good memories, but not from watching those movies.

[Dova80]

Hugh is to big to be Wolvie... But he does a alright job of playing him.

I certianly do look forward to the movie! I wanna see him be feral!

[Dragonpaco]

it's nowhere near as good as the first one. i thought 2004 punisher was decent and i was hoping for a sequel instead of a remake. war zone got the violence down, but sacrificed a good storyline and the character intros for it

[AquaPython]

the first punishers all bombed miserably at the box office. so for some unknown reason they think they can make money off the franchise, and keep trying to reinvent it...every 2 years....

[Papa_Complex]

As far as bombing goes, I doubt that any of you even remember that Dolph Lundgren was in the first attempt at making a Punisher movie :lol:

[Dragonpaco]

i dont even remember them really advertising the 2004 punisher, not nearly as much as they did for this steaming pile of crap

[Amorok]

As far as bombing goes, I doubt that any of you even remember that Dolph Lundgren was in the first attempt at making a Punisher movie :lol:

I remember it, I have it on DVD, and it's a lot better than the Thomas Jane version, which ended up being the Punisher and Friends. The last one could have been awesome, but the other people in his building could have been deleted and it would have been ok. I know they Rebecca Romain, but make her a hooker or a nurse or something, she doesn't need to be a love interest.

Thomas Jane didn't do the worst job, but instead of being angry and vengeful he was depressed and clipped.

As for the new one, it looks like a Steven Segeal movie with someone else in a skull t-shirt. I'm pissed.