Tire war room

[dReWpY]

we all know that Pilot powers pwn all for street duty, but here is a place to talk tread and throw your two cents in the ring...roast'em:slide:

i just got a flat at the dealer, and had to chose between dunlop qualifiers and metzler m3's, so i went ahead and put the m3's on, i got it for $135 whats ppl's opinion on the m3 i just know how the dunlops suck and anything would be better

[Trip]

corsa IIIs FTW

[dReWpY]

that tire would last one weekend on my bike, maybe less

and i went with the 180 series... see if i can tell a differance

[NONE_too_SOFT]

heres what im using right now.


I'm pretty happy with the amount tread.

http://www.dhtire.com/images/tire.jpg

[dReWpY]

fitting for the tractor of a bike you have

[NONE_too_SOFT]

my john deere 600 will whoop your ass in the quater till.

[dReWpY]

lies... and when did hell freeze over?

[NONE_too_SOFT]

i'm just betting on you lowsiding after the bend around the silo's.

just kidding, i know youll kick my ass up and down the road, no matter if its straight or twisty

[dReWpY]

gross abuse of power right there....

[NONE_too_SOFT]

hahah



oh boy





trip you are a RIOT.

[dReWpY]

what did trip have to do with it?

[vabarber2]

heres what im using right now.


I'm pretty happy with the amount tread.

http://www.dhtire.com/images/tire.jpg
:lol:

Yup, you hit the nail on the head cause PP's are the way for me! And all my buddys have loved them!

[dReWpY]

i was stuck in a pinch with no chance of getting my beloved pp

[Trip]

What I do now?

[Mule]

the buell had pirelli diablos when i bought it.....never had any problems with those up until i had a nail wind up in the back tire...

i had those changed for conti road attacks and haven't had a problem with them yet

[OneSickPsycho]

The 2ct's have treated me very well so far... Pirelli Diablos that came on bike were solid... My next tire will probably Road 2's... Thinkin' about doing Road 2 in the back and PP in the front...

[azoomm]

Huh... no Bridgestone lovers? That is all I will ever ride on... BT014 for the street. BT002 for the track.

[OneSickPsycho]

Huh... no Bridgestone lovers? That is all I will ever ride on... BT014 for the street. BT002 for the track.

IIRC OTB is a Bridgestone guy...

[jtemple]

I'm planning on trying out some Pilot Road 2's once I need a new front/rear set. Roads out here aren't twisty enough to need Powers or the like.

[OneSickPsycho]

I'm planning on trying out some Pilot Road 2's once I need a new front/rear set. Roads out here aren't twisty enough to need Powers or the like.

Since rears always wear out faster than fronts, I was going to get a softer one in the front... You should get the PP in the front and do the Road 2 out back... Then let me know how it works so you can be my guinea pig.

[Mr Lefty]

IIRC OTB is a Bridgestone guy...

I thought OTB was a Avon man... or was that no worries?

[OneSickPsycho]

I thought OTB was a Avon man... or was that no worries?

No Worries.

[DLIT]

I've been a Michelin man ever since I bought the Pilot Powers. And the Pilot Races are sweet too. Instead of doing what I usually do and stick to one brand, I think I might try something else this season. Depends what kind of deals I can get.

Azoom, you got a hook-up on Bridgestones?

[Trip]

Since rears always wear out faster than fronts, I was going to get a softer one in the front... You should get the PP in the front and do the Road 2 out back... Then let me know how it works so you can be my guinea pig.

Why? Road 2's are suppose to be as soft on the sides as regular powers are everywhere. So all you are doing is making the middle of the front wear faster that way.

[OneSickPsycho]

Why? Road 2's are suppose to be as soft on the sides as regular powers are everywhere. So all you are doing is making the middle of the front wear faster that way.

I don't use all of my front tire, so I figure it'll be an even race between the front and rear... Especially now that I'm in FL. I did think about running a 2ct in front and a Road in the rear... That combo may make more sense...

[Amber Lamps]

Since rears always wear out faster than fronts, I was going to get a softer one in the front... You should get the PP in the front and do the Road 2 out back... Then let me know how it works so you can be my guinea pig.

Don't do it! All his guinea pigs end up his ass!!!:angel:

[DLIT]

What do the road 2's look like?

[Mr Lefty]

What do the road 2's look like?

http://www.varaderoforum.com/images/tyres/michelin_pilot_road2.jpg

[azoomm]

I've been a Michelin man ever since I bought the Pilot Powers. And the Pilot Races are sweet too. Instead of doing what I usually do and stick to one brand, I think I might try something else this season. Depends what kind of deals I can get.

Azoom, you got a hook-up on Bridgestones?

You've been round and white? :nee:

Yes, a hookup I have, indeed. The Bridgestone tire Gods are good to me, I'm now paying well below of $300 a set.

[DLIT]

http://www.varaderoforum.com/images/tyres/michelin_pilot_road2.jpg

Those look cool. The profile's the same as the Powers? That's gonna come into play if whoever wanted to do the Road2/Power combo.

You've been round and white? :nee:

Yes, a hookup I have, indeed. The Bridgestone tire Gods are good to me, I'm now paying well below of $300 a set.

Care to hook me up with your hook-up? When the time comes?

[Mr Lefty]

Those look cool. The profile's the same as the Powers? That's gonna come into play if whoever wanted to do the Road2/Power combo.



I think they are... it was OSP who wanted to do the combo...


I've been running these
http://fstg.motosport.com/motographics/images/products/Metric/07tires/PR_DiabloStradaPair.jpg

they're a HUGE improvement over the stock dunslick 20hates... but that's not saying much


I'll give a better impression after September. they're sport touring so I hope to get some decent miles out of them

[Amber Lamps]

I think they are... it was OSP who wanted to do the combo...


I've been running these
http://fstg.motosport.com/motographics/images/products/Metric/07tires/PR_DiabloStradaPair.jpg

they're a HUGE improvement over the stock dunslick 20hates... but that's not saying much


I'll give a better impression after September. they're sport touring so I hope to get some decent miles out of them

I just got the Diablos after being a longtime Bridgestone guy and I must say that i like them alot! I quit Pirelli when the first Diablos came out (I was +1 for the Dragons). I felt they were too "V"d in the front and my bike "fell" into corners. Anyway,I have about 500 miles on them so far and am happy with the grip and the feel provided. Hopefully,mileage won't be a problem.

[Mr Lefty]

I just got the Diablos after being a longtime Bridgestone guy and I must say that i like them alot! I quit Pirelli when the first Diablos came out (I was +1 for the Dragons). I felt they were too "V"d in the front and my bike "fell" into corners. Anyway,I have about 500 miles on them so far and am happy with the grip and the feel provided. Hopefully,mileage won't be a problem.

which ones you running? I'm running the Strada's... their sport touring tire

[Amber Lamps]

Yeh sorry,I'm using the "normal" ones. I thought about the Stradas but was concerned about grip and the multi compound tires were more money and not in stock at my dealer. Besides,I got the tires installed for $345 which included a dyno run. Thought I'd checkout the situation since I'd moved from Mi to NC.

[OneSickPsycho]

Those look cool. The profile's the same as the Powers? That's gonna come into play if whoever wanted to do the Road2/Power combo.

Care to hook me up with your hook-up? When the time comes?

Yeah, I plan on making a couple calls to Michelin before running that combo...

[azoomm]

Those look cool. The profile's the same as the Powers? That's gonna come into play if whoever wanted to do the Road2/Power combo.

Care to hook me up with your hook-up? When the time comes?

Sure. I might need closer to a group buy - I have to order at least six sets at a time. Right now I'm building my garage at the track (actually just getting permits for it) and when it's done I'll have storage. But, now I don't. So, plan ahead and let me know.

[DLIT]

Sure. I might need closer to a group buy - I have to order at least six sets at a time. Right now I'm building my garage at the track (actually just getting permits for it) and when it's done I'll have storage. But, now I don't. So, plan ahead and let me know.

:dthumb:

[Phenix_Rider]

Here's a review on the Conti Road Attack (http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/road-attack.php). I'm having a really hard time choosing here... Road 2s, Road Attack, BT021, Diablo Strada...:bash:

[dReWpY]

i just put 200 twisty miles on my m3's 2up and they were great

[Rider]

I love my PP's. They haven't failed me yet..

[Phenix_Rider]

I love my PP's. They haven't failed me yet..

I've heard they get "nervous" and "skittish" unless you have really good pavement "racetrack smooth." Anyway, mileage on them sucks...

[Rider]

I've heard they get "nervous" and "skittish" unless you have really good pavement "racetrack smooth." Anyway, mileage on them sucks...

I dont find that to be true.. And mileage on such a sticky tire is expected to suck. Show me a tire that performs just as well but gets better mileage.

[marko138]

Pilot Power. Period.

[azoomm]

I'm really curious how hard people are riding, and what comparisons you've made to come to the decision of which you see is the *best*. I mean, it's kind of like what brand of glove you wear... or what kind of bike you ride. :shrug:

Personally, I love the way the Dunlops get up to temp... STICKY and really great feel. That is, until they start to go. Once they go, they are booger and snot... GONE.

The Pirellis don't ever seem to get to a temp that makes me trust them. Or, maybe they get to temp, but don't ever seem sticky. Well, in comparison anyway.

Michelins have always been more expensive and difficult to get. And, the reviews at the track here have been sketchy... so I haven't personally tried them.

With the options in front of me, Avon and Conti are out.

So, do you have more of a reason for buying the tires that you do... other than "because"? :)

[marko138]

I'm really curious how hard people are riding, and what comparisons you've made to come to the decision of which you see is the *best*. I mean, it's kind of like what brand of glove you wear... or what kind of bike you ride. :shrug:

Personally, I love the way the Dunlops get up to temp... STICKY and really great feel. That is, until they start to go. Once they go, they are booger and snot... GONE.

The Pirellis don't ever seem to get to a temp that makes me trust them. Or, maybe they get to temp, but don't ever seem sticky. Well, in comparison anyway.

Michelins have always been more expensive and difficult to get. And, the reviews at the track here have been sketchy... so I haven't personally tried them.

With the options in front of me, Avon and Conti are out.

So, do you have more of a reason for buying the tires that you do... other than "because"? :)



Great question. I originally bought the Pilot Powers because they were all the rage. I love them. My bike turned in quicker. They come up to temp quickly. They inspire confidence. I've never felt them slide on me. Even when cold.

Then again I'm not Valentino Rossi....so I the tires are capable of more than I will ever give them.

[azoomm]

Great question. I originally bought the Pilot Powers because they were all the rage. I love them. My bike turned in quicker. They come up to temp quickly. They inspire confidence. I've never felt them slide on me. Even when cold.

Then again I'm not Valentino Rossi....so I the tires are capable of more than I will ever give them.

True enough, on your last statement... none of us are REALLY testing tires. And, I'm not really one to argue with someone's beliefs. I mean, trusting your tires is HUGE... and I won't mess with that. I guess I'm just curious if people have actually tried other tires, or did they get one they liked and just stuck with it.

[marko138]

True enough, on your last statement... none of us are REALLY testing tires. And, I'm not really one to argue with someone's beliefs. I mean, trusting your tires is HUGE... and I won't mess with that. I guess I'm just curious if people have actually tried other tires, or did they get one they liked and just stuck with it.

I came from Dunlop 208's before the Michelins. I really hated them. They slid all the time. I had very little confidence with them. Didn't trust them at all. The PP's where a night and day difference.


I'm just saying that there are probly alot of people on this board that are faster than I am....but for what I do the PP's work. Even on the track. As I get faster on the track I'll move up to PP 2CT's or Pilot Race. But thats a while off.

[05svr650]

I came from Dunlop Qualifiers. Spending every weekend riding "the dragon" you learn a lot about your tires and how they handle different situations. Me riding my SV650, I would have never thought I could slide my tires...wrong. After 2 or 3 spirited runs thru the 11 mile stretch I would start pushing the limits, the harder I pushed the more my rear would slide. I got to the point where I could dial a slide on any corner that I chose. Then came the day when they gave all they could give. I went down 2 times in one day. When the dunlops were finished they were finished, no signs nothing, just gone.

I've since switched to PP. These definately are not "dial a slide" tires. No matter how hard I try I can only slide them when they are not up to temp. Even then I get 4 small hops before they break loose. At this point in my riding abilities I am not able to push the PP's to their limits.

just my .02

[Trip]

I had the q's stock on my RR. They pretty much slid no matter if you wanted them to or not. I hated those tires.

[dReWpY]

i had dunlops on the zx6r and i slid on me in a couple turns and i lost all confidence in them, i bought a set of pp and never had a problem on them either from the zx6r or the torquey rc51 they held up well enough, i run 32 psi and get ~4k miles, i had to chose between dunlops and metzlers, i put on some miles at a brisk pace 2 up and never felt a hiccup or wiggle, but ill wait till i put some harder solo miles on it before the jury comes in on them and see how long they last to see if they are a viable option

[marko138]

i had dunlops on the zx6r and i slid on me in a couple turns and i lost all confidence in them, i bought a set of pp and never had a problem on them either from the zx6r or the torquey rc51 they held up well enough, i run 32 psi and get ~4k miles, i had to chose between dunlops and metzlers, i put on some miles at a brisk pace 2 up and never felt a hiccup or wiggle, but ill wait till i put some harder solo miles on it before the jury comes in on them and see how long they last to see if they are a viable option

Why run so low? I run the Pilots at 37 front and rear with no slide issues.

[dReWpY]

when i took the stt trackday they stated that was the perferred tire pressure for these tires, i tried it and it worked and i have experimented with other pressures and found 32 to be the magic number for me

[Rider]

when i took the stt trackday they stated that was the perferred tire pressure for these tires, i tried it and it worked and i have experimented with other pressures and found 32 to be the magic number for me

32 in the PP's is perfect for my style of riding.

[azoomm]

when i took the stt trackday they stated that was the perferred tire pressure for these tires, i tried it and it worked and i have experimented with other pressures and found 32 to be the magic number for me

I run 32 on the track... but I wouldn't run that on the street...

[dReWpY]

i do bump it up for my touring adventures though

[marko138]

I ran my PP's at 28 for the track. They stuck like glue. 37 on the street and you're the golden goose.

[Rider]

I ran my PP's at 28 for the track. They stuck like glue. 37 on the street and you're the golden goose.

32 works for me, but I ride real aggressive for the street. I know a track day will change that though.

[marko138]

32 works for me, but I ride real aggressive for the street. I know a track day will change that though.

Ever run them higher?

[Rider]

Ever run them higher?

I ran them at 36 when I first got the bike. It seems to stiff for me(My forks are non adjustable) so less tire pressure gives me a better ride.

[marko138]

I ran them at 36 when I first got the bike. It seems to stiff for me(My forks are non adjustable) so less tire pressure gives me a better ride.

I see. I ran them lower when I first got them. Then someone told me to increase the pressure. I get the same handling with slower wear.

[Rider]

I see. I ran them lower when I first got them. Then someone told me to increase the pressure. I get the same handling with slower wear.

How many miles? I'm at 4500 and due for a new rear tire in less than 1000 miles, maybe even 500.

[marko138]

How many miles? I'm at 4500 and due for a new rear tire in less than 1000 miles, maybe even 500.

I'm at about the same miles. But I dont need a new one yet. I can get this season out of it....but with a couple track days it'll probly be spent.


But no track days...this thing lasts until next season easy.

[marko138]

Here's how they looked after the track last year.

[DLIT]

I run mine at 34f/36r.

[ceo012384]

I don't have any basis to compare, but I know that my dunlops that came with the bike are not very good compared to what I'm going to replace them with.

I've got 3 track days and 3500-4000 miles on these dunlops... they are toast.

I have a pair of diablo corsa III's ready to go, just gotta throw 'em on. I think I might stretch the dunlops out till a little closer to when I go to the track, don't wanna kill the profile at all.
I run mine at 34f/36r.

That's pretty high for the track, especially for PP's, no? I think someone told me a michelin rep told them to run like 26/29 or something like that.

[DLIT]

I don't have any basis to compare, but I know that my dunlops that came with the bike are not very good compared to what I'm going to replace them with.

I've got 3 track days and 3500-4000 miles on these dunlops... they are toast.

I have a pair of diablo corsa III's ready to go, just gotta throw 'em on. I think I might stretch the dunlops out till a little closer to when I go to the track, don't wanna kill the profile at all.


That's pretty high for the track, especially for PP's, no? I think someone told me a michelin rep told them to run like 26/29 or something like that.

I think I went down to 32/34 at the track. I like the higher pressure better. There's more weight pushing on that tire than a 170lbs rider. The extra pressure is better for me. I run my Pilot Races lower though.

[marko138]

I think I went down to 32/34 at the track. I like the higher pressure better. There's more weight pushing on that tire than a 170lbs rider. The extra pressure is better for me. I run my Pilot Races lower though.

What do you weigh?

[dReWpY]

i know i hit the scales at a not so slim 212#

[Amber Lamps]

I think I went down to 32/34 at the track. I like the higher pressure better. There's more weight pushing on that tire than a 170lbs rider. The extra pressure is better for me. I run my Pilot Races lower though.

Not that anyone cares for my 2 cents but,I also always ran higher pressure at the track. I felt that the bike turned in slower at lower pressure plus my fat ass needed all the corner speed I could get. Heck,on the street I run 42 rear/36 front and check it every time I ride to make sure it's right. I'm one of thse retards that can tell if my tires are off a couple lbs.

[dReWpY]

nothing wrong with being in tune with your bike, the samething doesnt work for everyone esp when it comes to bike setup and tire pressures

[Rider]

Not that anyone cares for my 2 cents but,I also always ran higher pressure at the track. I felt that the bike turned in slower at lower pressure plus my fat ass needed all the corner speed I could get. Heck,on the street I run 42 rear/36 front and check it every time I ride to make sure it's right. I'm one of thse retards that can tell if my tires are off a couple lbs.

That because of the big curb squirrels I've seen you have on the back. :lol:

Just fucking with you Lon :twfix:

[Amber Lamps]

That because of the big curb squirrels I've seen you have on the back. :lol:

Just fucking with you Lon :twfix:

Oh yea? Well I don't have a snappy comeback to that right now except... I guess I'll go ride my bike since it's 60 degrees outside! So ...:gofurslf:

[azoomm]

Not that anyone cares for my 2 cents but,I also always ran higher pressure at the track. I felt that the bike turned in slower at lower pressure plus my fat ass needed all the corner speed I could get. Heck,on the street I run 42 rear/36 front and check it every time I ride to make sure it's right. I'm one of thse retards that can tell if my tires are off a couple lbs.

Wow, really? Am I to assume you don't use tire warmers?

I haven't gone back through this thread to see if you've already stated what tire you prefer... which make/model?

[marko138]

Not that anyone cares for my 2 cents but,I also always ran higher pressure at the track. I felt that the bike turned in slower at lower pressure plus my fat ass needed all the corner speed I could get. Heck,on the street I run 42 rear/36 front and check it every time I ride to make sure it's right. I'm one of thse retards that can tell if my tires are off a couple lbs.

I can tell a few pound difference as well...however, I didn't notice a slower turn in with the lower pressure. And I was 9 pounds lower front and rear.

[Amber Lamps]

I can tell a few pound difference as well...however, I didn't notice a slower turn in with the lower pressure. And I was 9 pounds lower front and rear.

Yea it's probably just me. It feels funny to me so I'm more tentative in the corners.:idk:

Oh AZ I'm a bit of a slut when it comes to tires. I've tried them all just about! I'll probaby stick with the Pirellis for now. They're cheap and handle plenty good enough for my current level of riding(read:old and slow).

[azoomm]

Yea it's probably just me. It feels funny to me so I'm more tentative in the corners.:idk:

Oh AZ I'm a bit of a slut when it comes to tires. I've tried them all just about! I'll probaby stick with the Pirellis for now. They're cheap and handle plenty good enough for my current level of riding(read: old and slow).

Eh, being fast isn't all it's crapped up to be - I'd rather be slow and smoothe anyday.

You're at the top of the bracket for tire pressure that's even recommended by Pirelli (the chart is from their full line technical spec PDF). With the temps on the roads in your area, I can't help but think the pressure is MUCH greater as you ride through the day... if it works for you, then it works for you... but, it could present a safety issue.

[Amber Lamps]

Eh, being fast isn't all it's crapped up to be - I'd rather be slow and smoothe anyday.

You're at the top of the bracket for tire pressure that's even recommended by Pirelli (the chart is from their full line technical spec PDF). With the temps on the roads in your area, I can't help but think the pressure is MUCH greater as you ride through the day... if it works for you, then it works for you... but, it could present a safety issue.

interesting but the pressure I run is what was recommended by Suzuki in the manual so :idk:

[marko138]

interesting but the pressure I run is what was recommended by Suzuki in the manual so :idk:

Yeah but that is OEM tire. Are you still running OEM?

[Amber Lamps]

Yeah but that is OEM tire. Are you still running OEM?

A very good point...:idk: NOW I'm used to it and happy so FUCK OFF!!! Just kidding! I'll look into but I definetly don't see a safety issue here over two lbs...I hope!

[Rider]

Yeah but that is OEM tire. Are you still running OEM?

Plus I think that number is in case you want ride 2 up.

[azoomm]

Yeah but that is OEM tire. Are you still running OEM?

Bridgestone are OEM ;)

[Amber Lamps]

Bridgestone are OEM ;)

True but I was using the 001s and not the BT14s. Plus,Bridgestone makes a model specific tire for the GSXR, if you want to split hairs,so what if you don't want to spend the extra money for the OEM? I'm also thinking about going to the 200 series tire next time and see what happens. Hey that's what they run in WSB! (yea I know,I'm a "fanboy")

[marko138]

Whatever works for you, guy.

[azoomm]

True but I was using the 001s and not the BT14s. Plus,Bridgestone makes a model specific tire for the GSXR, if you want to split hairs,so what if you don't want to spend the extra money for the OEM? I'm also thinking about going to the 200 series tire next time and see what happens. Hey that's what they run in WSB! (yea I know,I'm a "fanboy")

No, the point is... it's a different tire.

Bridgestone has their recommendations. Pirelli has theirs. Since you are running the latter, I would say go with their recommendations on tire pressure over what Suzuki would say about a different brand tire.

[ceo012384]

Plus I think that number is in case you want ride 2 up.
Yeah, the 42 in the rear sounds really high, and probably for 2up.

For example, my manual says 36/36 and 36/42 for 2up.

I run 30/30 at the track and 30-32 if I know I'll be hitting twisties. Normal street riding I use 36/36. I'll have to see what changes when I put on the corsa III's... can't wait.

[Amber Lamps]

No, the point is... it's a different tire.

Bridgestone has their recommendations. Pirelli has theirs. Since you are running the latter, I would say go with their recommendations on tire pressure over what Suzuki would say about a different brand tire.


ok I'll look into but if you check Bridgestones site,I bet they don't recommend 42 lbs at the rear either. Unless you can pull a chart for my exact bike,my weight and height,and my riding style/conditions. I'm not sure what good it'll do BUT I honestly appreciate you input. It's just that this is the third GSXR1000 I've owned(since the '01) and I've always run my tires this way. It's what I'm used to. I set my suspension up for it,had to change alittle for the Pirellis,I don't know if I can change now.

[azoomm]

ok I'll look into but if you check Bridgestones site,I bet they don't recommend 42 lbs at the rear either. Unless you can pull a chart for my exact bike,my weight and height,and my riding style/conditions. I'm not sure what good it'll do BUT I honestly appreciate you input. It's just that this is the third GSXR1000 I've owned(since the '01) and I've always run my tires this way. It's what I'm used to. I set my suspension up for it,had to change alittle for the Pirellis,I don't know if I can change now.

I bet I can find a chart... but NOW I don't have the time LOL

Here is what I DO know... recommendations are just that. Something that worked for a plethora of people, but might not work for every individual. They are powerful suggestions. That being said, I wouldn't venture too far out of that range as then it becomes a safety issue (exploding tires are BAAAD).

I was talking with my suspension guy. He tweaked my suspension for my weight and size... I HATED it. I have been used to riding bikes sprung for 200+ pound men, I'm obviously NOT that. But, I have adapted my riding style to fit the machine. Now, I'm re-learning how to ride with a bike fitted to ME. I'm giving it a shot, and if it is too much of teh suck I'll put it back the way it was. :shrug: So, I know exactly what you mean.

[Phenix_Rider]

Interesting topic, tire pressure.

I'm slowing gaining experience- mostly from the Roads I just took off. I tried them at max pressure from the sidewall (42psi) and they didn't stick at all- but they didn't wear either. Tried them at 5psi above stock (37/41) and they felt like shit, tried them at stock and they still didn't feel right (32/36). Finally settled on 3psi below stock (29/33) and they felt ok, but wore fast.

Just put on a set of Pirellis (diablo front, rosso rear) and they feel great at 32/36. Which is what the shop put them at, and is stock pressure for the bike.

[Trip]

Interesting topic, tire pressure.

I'm slowing gaining experience- mostly from the Roads I just took off. I tried them at max pressure from the sidewall (42psi) and they didn't stick at all- but they didn't wear either. Tried them at 5psi above stock (37/41) and they felt like shit, tried them at stock and they still didn't feel right (32/36). Finally settled on 3psi below stock (29/33) and they felt ok, but wore fast.

Just put on a set of Pirellis (diablo front, rosso rear) and they feel great at 32/36. Which is what the shop put them at, and is stock pressure for the bike.

Run about 36-35 commuting

31-30 twisties

track can get off the wall I usually run around 26-21

[dReWpY]

Run about 36-35 commuting

31-30 twisties

track can get off the wall I usually run around 26-21

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[Smittie61984]

I have a PP2ct front an a PP rear I got at Deals Gap when my PP Race take off started showing bands. The PP probably has 3500 on it now and is just below the indicators but I'm going to squeeze another 1000 out of the tires. But I love how they hook up. Not that I'm pushing them to the limits but one thing I do like is knowing my tires won't be to blame if I screw up.

My next tire since I'll mainly be doing commuting (From home, to school, to work, and then home) will be Pilot Roads2 which are suppose to have Pilot Road centers with regular PP sidewalls. But once my PP2ct Front wears out I'll look into other tires.

On my old SecaII I got some Bridgestone Battlax tires (BT21 I believe) that were pretty nice and lasted a long time (Even after I sold it an they rarely saw sidewall action).

[azoomm]

Oh shit... just tried the new Bridgestones, BT003R's. FUCKING AMAZING. I went with a medium front and hard rear, perfect combination.

:dthumb:

[t-homo]

I just ordered a set of Diablo Rossos yesterday. Hopefully I can have them on in a week or so, then tell my initial thoughts.

[ceo012384]

Run about 36-35 commuting

31-30 twisties

track can get off the wall I usually run around 26-21

I do something similar for commuting and twisties.

For the track I monitor my hot temps though, not cold... hot temps are more important.

For example pirelli vendor told me you want around 32-33 hot... I ended up needing to put them around 27 cold... this is obviously very dependent on ambient and track temps.

[Phenix_Rider]

I just ordered a set of Diablo Rossos yesterday. Hopefully I can have them on in a week or so, then tell my initial thoughts.

I put on another 50 miles or so today. They seem to heat up fast, and grip really well. I'm wishing for more feedback from the front Diablo, but I'll bump the pressure 1-2 psi and see how it goes. Don't want them heating up too much either. Sooo much nicer than the Pilot Roads. Much more fun riding when I don't have to worry about the front disappearing on an easy corner.

[Amber Lamps]

I put on another 50 miles or so today. They seem to heat up fast, and grip really well. I'm wishing for more feedback from the front Diablo, but I'll bump the pressure 1-2 psi and see how it goes. Don't want them heating up too much either. Sooo much nicer than the Pilot Roads. Much more fun riding when I don't have to worry about the front disappearing on an easy corner.

Pirelli FTW If I didn't already have two sets of Diablos, I'd be getting the Rossos myself (I still might!).

[Amber Lamps]

Oh shit... just tried the new Bridgestones, BT003R's. FUCKING AMAZING. I went with a medium front and hard rear, perfect combination.

:dthumb:

Yea things are really changing,which is actually normal for motorcycle tires! What was the shit yesterday,is shit today! I've heard nothing but good things about the new gen Bridgestones.

[Phenix_Rider]

I'm thinking about a sporty set of Bridgestones next- 014s or 016s maybe, but def. not 021s. I've heard they have more front end feel because of a slightly stiffer carcass.

[Trip]

I do something similar for commuting and twisties.

For the track I monitor my hot temps though, not cold... hot temps are more important.

For example pirelli vendor told me you want around 32-33 hot... I ended up needing to put them around 27 cold... this is obviously very dependent on ambient and track temps.

that's why my track pressure is such a huge range compared to the other two

[marko138]

I ran 38 front and rear on my PP's. I think I ran 30 or 32 at the track with them.

I run the Corsa III's at 38 as well.

[Cutty72]

Just threw on PP's on the Buell. Set them at 36/36 for now, we'll see how it feels after a real ride.

Took it out down the road a couple miles. Just weaving back and forth in my lane at speed I can tell the difference between Corsa III's and the PP's. PP's have a much faster turn in, not the linear constant change like the corsa's.

Also, from just doing that, I almost got the rear tire edge to edge. :panic: Tire profiles make a big difference as to how they wear i guess.

[Phenix_Rider]

Just ran the Diablo and Rosso at the track. Very nice at 30 front, 32 rear (hot). From the wear and balling, looks like they were at perfect temp and pressure. No slip at all, even in the mist we got. I need to work on a lot of things, but these tires are great. I love the linear turn in.

[Amber Lamps]

Just ran the Diablo and Rosso at the track. Very nice at 30 front, 32 rear (hot). From the wear and balling, looks like they were at perfect temp and pressure. No slip at all, even in the mist we got. I need to work on a lot of things, but these tires are great. I love the linear turn in.

Pirelli Rosso's......:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::d rool::drool::drool::drool:

[Phenix_Rider]

Pirelli Rosso's......:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::d rool::drool::drool::drool:

:rockwoot: :lol:

The real test will be how long they last commuting.

[t-homo]

:rockwoot: :lol:

The real test will be how long they last commuting.

Ebbs has a set on. Ask him once he and rae get done with whatever they and doing and get on here.

[Mr Lefty]

no... I have the Diablo Strada's... the sport touring ones... and after 1500 miles of freeway... and 500 twistys... they're just very slightly flat spotted...

I'm very pleased with them so far...

[t-homo]

no... I have the Diablo Strada's... the sport touring ones... and after 1500 miles of freeway... and 500 twistys... they're just very slightly flat spotted...

I'm very pleased with them so far...

Ok nevermind. I read it wrong. I have Diablo Rossos. I only have like 20 miles on em so far.

[Amber Lamps]

Ok nevermind. I read it wrong. I have Diablo Rossos. I only have like 20 miles on em so far.


If I hadn't gotten those sets of normal Diablos so cheap,I'd rockin' Rossos right now baby!!! Did I mention....:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::dro ol:

[Phenix_Rider]

no... I have the Diablo Strada's... the sport touring ones... and after 1500 miles of freeway... and 500 twistys... they're just very slightly flat spotted...

I'm very pleased with them so far...

If I hadn't gotten those sets of normal Diablos so cheap,I'd rockin' Rossos right now baby!!! Did I mention....:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::dro ol:

It was a mistake on the distributor's part that led to the Diablo and Diablo Rosso going on mine. I wanted the Stradas, but they got a rear Strada and a front Diablo in. So I opted to go with the Rosso on the rear to match the softer compound.

Only about 500 miles total on them- with 100 or so being track. Not enough to see any flat spot.

[azoomm]

Holy crap... I have to say, just put a new set of BT003R's on the bike for the trackday yesterday. Medium Front - Hard Rear. And... WOW!!! They are fantastic.

[Phenix_Rider]

I saw a set of Conti Race Attacks shred themselves over the weekend. One of th local guys runs in NESBA A. He totaled his 636, and found a GSXR600 with the RAs. The right side of that rear looked horrible after a couple sessions. He fiddled the suspension and changed pressures, but it didn't help. Bought a set of Pirelli SuperCorsa Pros and they looked fantastic after a couple more sessions.

[Cutty72]

Ok, finally got to go for a bit of a ride yesterday. It is ND, so no twisties, but a few corners and a couple on ramps :lol:

The PP's stick well, and turn in super quick, but feel almost twitchy when going straight.
I can see where they would be a great tire on most bikes, and depending on how they wear, I may try them again, but with the Buell's aggressive geometry, not the most stable tire at speed.

[jtemple]

I'm really leaning toward Pilot Road 2's. I'm looking for a compromise between cornering ability and mileage. We don't have super tight twisties around here. Think 90+ mph in turns without really leaning all that far. Are there any other recommendations?

[Dnyce]

bikebandit has pp on sale, 155 for a 180mm rear, 120ish for a front

[Cutty72]

bikebandit has pp on sale, 155 for a 180mm rear, 120ish for a front

sportbiketrackgear still cheaper. $256.95 for the pair, shipped.

[JoJoYZF]

sportbiketrackgear still cheaper. $256.95 for the pair, shipped.

Derbycycles.com has them for 229 but with shipping itll be pretty close.

[Dave]

im on the old pilot sports. really like em. never slip not even if i catch a bump mid corner. im looking forward to powers though.

i know in cars some guys air up with nitrogen. is that done in bikes too? some decent advantages

[Dnyce]

im on the old pilot sports. really like em. never slip not even if i catch a bump mid corner. im looking forward to powers though.

i know in cars some guys air up with nitrogen. is that done in bikes too? some decent advantages

i hear of car guys doin it too, dont know any bikers doin it.

[t-homo]

Got to have a decent ride on the Rossos tonight. Night and day difference between them and the old shinkos. They turn in very quick, and feel very comfortable going through twisties. I'll be able to tell you some about wear after this weekend.

[Cutty72]

im on the old pilot sports. really like em. never slip not even if i catch a bump mid corner. im looking forward to powers though.

i know in cars some guys air up with nitrogen. is that done in bikes too? some decent advantages

Depends on how often you change your tire pressure, and where you are doing it. Not many places (around here anyway) offer nitrogen.
Air is just so much more convenient.

[No Worries]

Air is 78 percent nitrogen. With two bikes, a car, a truck, and an RV, my air compressor gets a good workout.

[CW AF 03]

I used Pilot Powers on my first track day in Oct 06. They felt good, but I wasn't pushing at all. When I started riding track a lot I moved to Power Race. They were good until I started getting faster. The carcass is somewhat soft so I didn't have as much front end feel as I like. I switched to Dunlop 209's and it was night and day! They heat up quick, stick very well, and a predictable when they start sliding. The 211 is just bonkers for a DOT race tire! Ridiculously good for something with tread! When I got my 1098 it came with Supercorsa Pro's that were ok but softer than the Michelins so the bike was very vague mid corner. Those lasted 2 trackdays... Since then, I moved to Dunlop slicks in a 125/75 front and 195/65 rear. Holy crap! They are tall enough that I've ground my toe sliders off, and it's actually hard to get them to break traction. Even on the 1098 the rear hardly ever spins and there is no front end drama no matter how hard I get on the brakes (assuming the rear tire is still on the ground...)