Question

[pauldun170]

Why do 60% of the people I know in their 30's either have bad knees or bad backs?

Was there a massive "Screw a fat chick\everyone blow the person to your immediate right " movement during the 90's that I missed while I was working a night shift?

(Guess that explains all the hubbubery (trademark Pauldun170) with Clinton)

[smileyman]

My back is fine although I have never blown anyone to my right or screwed a "fat" chick. (I am sure your using slang for women and not the poulrty).

[pauldun170]

My back is fine although I have never blown anyone to my right or screwed a "fat" chick. (I am sure your using slang for women and not the poulrty).

Indeed I am using the term to describe an obese woman.

Had I meant poultry, then I may or may not have participated in that movement. I haven't decided if I'm going to run for office so I'm not tossing that out there.

[smileyman]

Sports injuries would probably make up a half and attempts to get undeserved disability benefits are probably the other. Me I have a basketball ankle, auto racing neck vertabrae, bad attitude from too many concussions, behavioral issues from SRS. (Sperm Retention Syndrome, too lazy to jack off, too poor to get laid)

[Adeptus_Minor]

The human back was not meant for sitting as much as most of us with deskbound jobs & hobbies force them to. Combine that with bad lifting habits and it's hard to see how anyone can make it past their 30's without doing something that eventually comes back to cause them pain later.

As for knees... well, my left one was slammed in a truck door.
Probably not the typical cause for knee issues, but you asked. :idk:

[Cutty72]

Not in my 30's yet but...

raised on a farm
history of back and knee problems in my family
military member
work on a farm currently.


yup, think i'm fucked.

[t-homo]

football injury for me.

[tommymac]

i have many years of football to blame for my rickety knees. Surprisingly after 11 years at UPS my back is fine.

Tom

[Hondahugger]

I have a 2 year old kid to thank for my back injury. I was in the nursery at church and went to pick a toddler up to put in a play tube and that was all it took, I twisted wrong or who knows what and threw it out. That was about 4 years ago and ever since then, my back has given me problems.

[ontwo]

I attribute my knee problems to years of playing catcher in little league.

[xx CURVE xx]

bikes + asphalt

[Archren]

Military makes me hurt. :lol: That comes from doing shit like running on asphalt or carrying a crap load of gear (30lb+ body armor, weapon, and basic ammo load).

[Gas Man]

Well I can attest that Trips knee's are messed up cause he spends too much time on them with Drewpy...

I had contracted Kawasaki's disease when I was 8rs. My left knee was blown out in the process. My knee at 8yrs old, were twice the size of my knees now.

Back... well its not my fault... I've been ridin hard by too many cheerleaders...

[CrazyKell]

No knee injuries whatsoever (although everyone I know has blown out at least one of their knees). ;)

Back....well a riding injury when I was ten years old (thrown into a jump) took care of that. Couple that with mild scoliosis and over curvature of the spine....it doesn't look good. But it doesn't cause me a lot of problems so I don't think about it too much at all. :whistle:

[marko138]

I'm approaching 30...and my knees suck. I used to skateboard and when I played baseball I caught. Combined with wrestling and football...my knees are jacked.

[Particle Man]

karate + bare feet + hardwood floors + a bunch of other shit = bad back, bad knees, bad ankle. :lol:

[Angee]

Cheerleading when I was a teenager (I was always on the bottom of the pyramid...no crude jokes, y'all :lol:), an 8-1/2 lb kid, and a 4-1/2 lbd kid who broke my tailbone on the way out. Well, that and a suckass ex-husband....I did a lot of furniture moving after my youngest was born working at a rent-to-own center as well. Now I push a desk, and that's not much better.

[Mr Lefty]

no problems at all... played sports all my life... and have poor posture... so I'll probably be in pain later on... but as of now... 28 and no issues...

[Smittie61984]

I'm 24. From 19-23 I moved pool tables 6 days a week. There goes my back and the rest of my body. Now I dig ditches on top of going to school so I have a hard labor job and stress from school. My only suffering that I can tell is my right wrist which will hurt like hell sometimes. It came from the pool tables and the 10,000 awkard angles I had to carry 200lb peices of slate up and down stairs all day long. And I guess porn could be a cause too.

The thing I notice at 24 is everyone I knew from school is married or getting married now. I can't maintain a relationship for over a month.

But from what I have seen it appears to me that most people 30+'s physical activity is watching sports on the couch. So I would think little exercise would be a cause.

[Mr Lefty]

I'm 24. From 19-23 I moved pool tables 6 days a week. There goes my back and the rest of my body. Now I dig ditches on top of going to school so I have a hard labor job and stress from school. My only suffering that I can tell is my right wrist which will hurt like hell sometimes. It came from the pool tables and the 10,000 awkard angles I had to carry 200lb peices of slate up and down stairs all day long. And I guess porn could be a cause too.

The thing I notice at 24 is everyone I knew from school is married or getting married now. I can't maintain a relationship for over a month.

But from what I have seen it appears to me that most people 30+'s physical activity is watching sports on the couch. So I would think little exercise would be a cause.
or possibly infrequent intence exercise... ie think'n they're 18 again after not doing anything for 4 years

[lauralynne]

age 21 I blew my whole left knee out skiing. No surgery - no problems now. I'm 40 now and while my back is sometimes sore, I can directly attribute it to recent activities and it returns to it's pain free state rather quickly.

but I'm not in my 30's anymore so I guess I don't count (and while I dind't fuck any fat chicks, I am a former fat chick)

[Smittie61984]

or possibly infrequent intence exercise... ie think'n they're 18 again after not doing anything for 4 years

True. I always get a joy this time of year as my gym gets packed beyond belief from the New Year's resolution 40 year olds who try to lift what they "supposedly"(I mean what 150lb 16 year old can't benchpress 500lbs?) usetacould in highschool.

[lauralynne]

counterpoint to the resolutionists (from another forum):

I'm an endurance athlete. I train all year not only outside, but also at the gym and the pool. I can expect some serious crowding in both places for the next few weeks. It happens every year.

Suddenly we have to add 30 minutes to our scheduled gym time because of the "resolutionists". There are no parking places. When you do manage to find one and get to the locker room 10 minutes behind schedule, there aren't any lockers available and the door is blocked by someone trying to remember the way to the weight room. In there, the machines you need to use are all occupied by people in new track suits pushing too much weight with truly horrible form. The bubbler is blocked by someone who is trying hard not to look totally out of their element. You can't get in the pool because it's jammed with people using pull buoys on their arms and kickboards as flotation devices. Half the lanes have people with no goggles and baggy swim trunks down to their knees who can't swim an entire lap.


The whole freakin' place is filled with...with...

beginners.

It's one of my favorite sights. I've never been in a place more full of hope than a gym during the first week of January. It's a place full of people giving action to their dreams. People who for that day are making an effort to be fit, to improve themselves, to live a better quality of life. The effort and courage it takes them to get there that morning is huge. It certainly exceeds what it takes me. I know where everything is. I know the pool etiquette. I know what my workout is going to be and how to use the machines. My stomach is already kind of flat, my calves look like I've had brick implants and I'm not the least bit embarrassed to take my shirt off in the locker room. This is routine for me. These new people will be showing a lot of courage and determination by going to the gym in the next few weeks and they'll deserve my respect. They'll get it.


It wasn't that long ago that I was one of them. During the next few weeks I'll be making an effort to help some of these people feel a little less uncomfortable. Maybe make eye contact with some of them, be ready to give a nod or say hello.


Once we're halfway into February, the crowds will be gone. Parking will be easy. Machines will be available again. The wait at the pool will go away. We know this. We're endurance athletes. We know the reward that comes from sticking through the hard parts.

And from helping others through them.

[TommyHotWheel]

Blew my knee out twice and my back was tweaked(herniated disk and some other nagging shit) at work. Comes with working 70 hours a week and raising 2 kids with all of the house chores on top of it.

[Mr Lefty]

True. I always get a joy this time of year as my gym gets packed beyond belief from the New Year's resolution 40 year olds who try to lift what they "supposedly"(I mean what 150lb 16 year old can't benchpress 500lbs?) usetacould in highschool.

:lol: yeah before I joined the military I opened at Bally Total Fitness for the front desk as a part time job... first month after new years the gym was fuck'n INSANELY packed... Feb 1 50% of what it was on Jan 3rd... March 1... maybe 1 or 2 new members stuck around... the rest were regulars... :lol:

I hated playing basketball at the gym at that time... all the all state and all universe players come out and play and would get annoyed that a 19y/o could go by them so either a. i traveled. b. i carried the ball c. they slipped. c they'd tackle me and claim no blood no foul... but wanna start a fight if I block their shot.

[Smittie61984]

counterpoint to the resolutionists (from another forum):


That was pretty good. I guess a way to view it for someone who maintains a somewhat healthy lifestyle (Mountain biking, Kayking, Road cycling, lifting, etc) is the same way we have to prepare ourselves for the onslaught of "I'm 19, new to motorcycles and I'm wanting a Gixxer1000 for my first bike. I know I'll be a good boy, etc, etc, etc" that we'll get in spring. Despite most won't get the message I guess if one fat boy decides to hit the gym instead of all you can eat wings and continues doing it through February that's a good thing. Same if we can talk one 19 year old away from a 600 super sport to a more proper beginner bike we have helped someone.

But in the meantime since I won't have access to a machine and it's too cold to really bicycle. I might have to make a kayak trip to the Okefenookee in hopes it will be somewhat warm.

[Archren]

Okefenookee

Gesundheit! :lol:

[Corey]

Have you seen the shoes that people wear? They're piss poor designs, not fitted right, and worn for style over comfort. They don't know if they suffer from overpronation or supination and end up buying shoes that seem to exacerbate the problem. They wear shoes that fuck up their gait, fuck up their posture, and eventually fuck up their back. If the foundation is shit, it's going to ruin the structure, no matter how pretty it is.

[Smittie61984]

Have you seen the shoes that people wear? They're piss poor designs, not fitted right, and worn for style over comfort. They don't know if they suffer from overpronation or supination and end up buying shoes that seem to exacerbate the problem. They wear shoes that fuck up their gait, fuck up their posture, and eventually fuck up their back. If the foundation is shit, it's going to ruin the structure, no matter how pretty it is.

Plus that. I had some Sacouny(?) shoes for running. I felt like they were weird on me and went to a shoe place that takes video of you running on a treadmill then have you stand on a pad to find your pressure points. The Sacouny shoes (Which I got because everyone creamed their pants at the mention of them) were the worst shoe for me. Found out Mizuono(?) fit me best and it made a huge improvement in my running.

[Archren]

Have you seen the shoes that people wear? They're piss poor designs, not fitted right, and worn for style over comfort. They don't know if they suffer from overpronation or supination and end up buying shoes that seem to exacerbate the problem. They wear shoes that fuck up their gait, fuck up their posture, and eventually fuck up their back. If the foundation is shit, it's going to ruin the structure, no matter how pretty it is.

Sadly, a lot of shoe places don't make an effort to try and find the kind of shoe that's appropriate for a person's foot. That's why I went to RunTex for my last pair of running shoes.. they're not as specialized as what Smittie mentioned above, but they had me walk/jog/run up and down this mat in the store, measured my foot, checked my arch and had me try on 3 different kinds of shoes to see which worked best for me. I ended up with a pair of Asics that are light as a freaking feather.. and while I'm usually extremely prone to shin and thigh splints, I haven't had any issues with that at all since I got those shoes. :dthumb:

[cbrchick]

I'm a nurse.

12 hour shifts on my feet. Lifting and transferring pt's all day long that think they are light as a feather.

One patient ruined my back when she decided to give up and sit down when I was moving her from her bed to the chair at the side of her bed. Herniated disk at L4-L5. Sciatic pain nearly 24/7. And that was 4 years ago.

[Archren]

I'm a nurse.

12 hour shifts on my feet. Lifting and transferring pt's all day long that think they are light as a feather.

One patient ruined my back when she decided to give up and sit down when I was moving her from her bed to the chair at the side of her bed. Herniated disk at L4-L5. Sciatic pain nearly 24/7. And that was 4 years ago.

Ye gads... :( I feel for you.. you may want to look into one of those support things they have out there... for when peanut starts looking more like basketball. I don't have back problems, and I had lower back issues during my third trimester for both pregnancies.. :panic:

[Corey]

Sadly, a lot of shoe places don't make an effort to try and find the kind of shoe that's appropriate for a person's foot. That's why I went to RunTex for my last pair of running shoes.. they're not as specialized as what Smittie mentioned above, but they had me walk/jog/run up and down this mat in the store, measured my foot, checked my arch and had me try on 3 different kinds of shoes to see which worked best for me. I ended up with a pair of Asics that are light as a freaking feather.. and while I'm usually extremely prone to shin and thigh splints, I haven't had any issues with that at all since I got those shoes. :dthumb:

I think people just don't know. I kind of wonder if most people have worn shoes that actually fit and address their problems, or if they just go to Foot Locker/Sports Authority/Random Shop and having a $7.00/hr retard show them the latest Nike moon boots.

[cbrchick]

Ye gads... :( I feel for you.. you may want to look into one of those support things they have out there... for when peanut starts looking more like basketball. I don't have back problems, and I had lower back issues during my third trimester for both pregnancies.. :panic:

Yeah, being in pain and not being able to work is my biggest concern. Hopefully I can change my shifts around, make them shorter if need be. They can be pretty considerate up to a point.

[the chi]

Ran long distance and track and field in school, had severe issues, coaches just iced us and threw us back in, I attribute that to my knee problems.

As for my back, scoliosis runs in the family. Mine is very slight, but combined with all the different accidents I've been in, its jacked. My chiro is a close friend.

Fortunately, as long as I exercise neither bother me too much.

[azoomm]

I think people just don't know. I kind of wonder if most people have worn shoes that actually fit and address their problems, or if they just go to Foot Locker/Sports Authority/Random Shop and having a $7.00/hr retard show them the latest Nike moon boots.

Or, maybe if they don't ever go near those damn Crocks?? Or, let their children wear them??!?

Personally - I learned that DKNY doesn't make good protective wear for crashing motorcycles on pavement. I dented a knee-cap and burst a few things in the knee region. Then, went through PT years later to rebuild the ligaments that I wasn't using.

My bicycle got me back to where my knee isn't an issue anymore. Proper fitted running shoes make sure they won't be injured when I jog. Though, every now and then when at the track on motorcycles - my knee protests... so much for over 30, huh?

Evan blew his knee out water skiing when he was in his early 20's.

[Trip]

Well I can attest that Trips knee's are messed up cause he spends too much time on them with Drewpy...

I had contracted Kawasaki's disease when I was 8rs. My left knee was blown out in the process. My knee at 8yrs old, were twice the size of my knees now.

Back... well its not my fault... I've been ridin hard by too many cheerleaders...

I'm not 30 yet asshat. Plus drewpy is the bitch.

[Particle Man]

that's a big problem around here for me: finding a decent shoe place. I'm stuck with foot locker and crap like that. :(

[Gas Man]

I'm not 30 yet asshat. Plus drewpy is the bitch.
That's not what Drewpy says... he say's you play catcher!

[Smittie61984]

Ran long distance and track and field in school, had severe issues, coaches just iced us and threw us back in, I attribute that to my knee problems.


Highschool coaches have probably ruined so many lives that it's not even calculable.

[Mr Lefty]

Highschool coaches have probably ruined so many lives that it's not even calculable.
no shit... my Junior year I gave up baseball... and at the litterally begging of our track coach... tried Tripple, Long, and High jumps... I was naturally decent at them... but needed to work on form... but I enjoyed them so I went for it...

my vertical leap at the end of basketball season (usually the worst time to test it as your muscles are broken down over the entire season... you'll get much better results waiting a month) was 39" very decent for my 6'3" height... enough to stand, jump and touch the top of the box ( the little white box on the back board) with both hands...

after 3 weeks of his "special jumpers workout" that he developed in college... my vert was 33" and I had shin splints, built up fluid in my knees, a some ligament damage in my knees... I stopped his work out took two weeks of 0 work outs... (rode bike and swam though to keep in shape) and 3 weeks later, after my own regimen of workouts... was back to my 39" vert... and placing much better in the meets...

fucking coach wanted to cut me cause I wouldn't do his workouts...

[Smittie61984]

When I was 16 I went to a private gym because of the dangerous exercises Highschool coaches wanted you to do. For example on the leg press machine he'd make people push the weight with enough force to throw the weight up on the tracks so they left contact with your feet. Then catch it.

I had coaches begging for me to play in highschool but I didn't. I'm glad I didn't either because I never had any major injuries from school when I graduated. Can't say that for a lot of my friends. Kind of pissed off the coaches that the strongest guy in the school was a freshman that played the trumpet in the Marching Band. Even one of the guys going to the Air Force academy to play and then becoming a star player at UGA before going pro. Track wanted me because I could shot put like hell and sprint like a mother fucker. Wrestling wanted me because I was extremely strong for my weight (190lbs without a lot of fat), football wanted me because I was fast and strong and baseball wanted me because I could drive a ball hard.

Never got any offers from Tennis :(

[marko138]

Highschool coaches have probably ruined so many lives that it's not even calculable.

No doubt. My senior year I got insanely sick on the day of a HUGE wrestling match. The winner was gonna be conference champs. I had a 102* fever, my neck was stiff as hell, I was SICK.

Went to coach, told him I was going home. He was not having it. He personally took me to the nurse...I slept ALL DAY in the nurses office. Coach went to the store, got me a bunch of pills...which I'm sure is illegal for a teacher/coach to do.

Anyway...I wrestled that night. Got the shit beat out of me. I had no energy and still sick as hell. But I didn't get pinned...so I saved us atleast 1 team point. :lol: Guess thats the best we could hope for, since I clearly had no shot at winning.